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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by lha on Jan 27, 2021 21:20:02 GMT 1, Cracking piece Graham, wish I had the funds! GLWTS.
Cracking piece Graham, wish I had the funds! GLWTS.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by ranxerox on Jan 28, 2021 14:52:47 GMT 1, After handfinished front page if anyone selling? Dm me please with price. Uk only. Thanks
After handfinished front page if anyone selling? Dm me please with price. Uk only. Thanks
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Graham H on Jan 28, 2021 18:32:39 GMT 1, Piece is now Sold... Thanks for all the interest
Piece is now Sold... Thanks for all the interest
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by ranxerox on Jan 28, 2021 19:35:28 GMT 1, Looking for a hand finished Front Page. Anyone selling?DM me please with cost. UK only please. Thanks
Looking for a hand finished Front Page. Anyone selling?DM me please with cost. UK only please. Thanks
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by met on Jan 29, 2021 14:54:29 GMT 1, I like this, but I truthfully donโt know why. I read the posts in this thread with great interest, and read through the articles linked by Macfuton (thank you for this), but I am still unsure about the composition of the print.
Overall, I find this piece by Paco Pomet to be amusing, as well as unsatisfying.
That comment applies to both the large original painting from 2006 and the screenprint released this year:
Nightmare (Pesadilla) (2006), oil on canvas, 200 x 200 cm
Nightmare (Pesadilla) (2021), six-colour screenprint, edition of 100, 59 x 57 cm
One clever feature more distinctive with the print is that the only white areas are the whites (sclerae) of Ernie and Bert's eyes.
Now for some criticisms:
1. Title
Artists rarely do themselves any favours when they feel the need to spell out how their work should be understood.
Besides being prescriptive, the name Nightmare sounds naff to me. It's melodramatic and it over-eggs. I would argue this unhelpfully taints our first impression of the piece, at the risk of diminishing its impact.
Pomet was presumably keen to convey the notion of nightmare. [And perhaps he was oddly resistant in this case to a more open interpretation of the work, or to multiple interpretations.] But even so, this could still have been achieved otherwise, in a manner that would actually be interesting. For example, through the use of understatement.
I'd have chosen a completely mundane title โ one that could have illustrated Hannah Arendt's concept of "the banality of evil"*.
2. Composition
Like treweman, I have reservations about the composition of the piece. And on multiple fronts:
2.1 The placement of Ernie and Bert within the image seems too close to the middle. If they'd been positioned further to the right, the result would be visually more appealing to me.
2.2 Rather than square format, a rectangular image in landscape might have worked better โ like the 1936 source photograph below. Or a square composition, but one that offered additional negative space along the left and right sides of the grouped officers.
Francisco Franco with officers and chiefs of the garrisons of the Canary Islands after some military manoeuvres and a meal. Monte de la Esperanza, Tenerife, 17 June 1936
2.3 Pomet having cropped and changed the layout of the source photo isn't much of an issue. However, this should have been accompanied by complementary changes to the standing positions and orientation of some of the officers.
Three or four of the men, at the left and right extremities of Nightmare, just look awkward. One on the far left is even facing the wrong direction (bearing in mind Pomet's altered configuration of fewer people posing for the group photo). It is distracting, and unnecessarily so.
2.4 Sadly, the artist's cropped layout also led to a loss of the original focal point, along with some of the symmetry, thereby weakening the composition. [In the source photo, the viewer's eye is guided towards and initially rests upon General Franco at the front-centre, flanked by two colonels.]
3. Concept
Notwithstanding my earlier comment in point 1 above, Nightmare leaves me puzzled about Paco Pomet's intent, and what (if anything) he's trying to say.
For the benefit of those who haven't noticed, General Franco was omitted from both the original painting and the print. His body is depicted, but his head was replaced by that of Colonel Gonzรกlez Peral (standing to the left of Franco in the source photo):
The key figure from that 1936 group portrait was therefore anonymised by Pomet. My question is Why?
Given the source photo and the artwork's title, a natural assumption is that the nightmare Pomet is referring to is the civil war and dictatorship which would shortly ensue. But by leaving out the face of the most recognisable Nationalist, the meaning of the piece becomes less clear. You end up with Ernie and Bert simply among unidentified officers in uniform.
And this to me is conceptually confusing.
What I'm hoping is that the artist is not making some sophomoric comment about the military being a nightmare in and of itself.
That kind of blanket statement would be disappointing. Especially since, when the insurrection commenced on 18 July 1936 โ one month after the source photo was taken โ roughly half of the Spanish armed forces (wearing the same uniforms) would be fighting on the side of the Republicans.
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In my opinion, Nightmare would have been stronger if it had been more faithful to the source photo (i.e. more faithful to historical accuracy), in all respects bar the replacement of two men by characters from Sesame Street.
The most seductive lies are typically the ones that stick as closely as possible to the truth.
I like this, but I truthfully donโt know why. I read the posts in this thread with great interest, and read through the articles linked by Macfuton (thank you for this), but I am still unsure about the composition of the print.Overall, I find this piece by Paco Pomet to be amusing, as well as unsatisfying. That comment applies to both the large original painting from 2006 and the screenprint released this year: Nightmare (Pesadilla) (2006), oil on canvas, 200 x 200 cmNightmare (Pesadilla) (2021), six-colour screenprint, edition of 100, 59 x 57 cmOne clever feature more distinctive with the print is that the only white areas are the whites (sclerae) of Ernie and Bert's eyes. Now for some criticisms:1. TitleArtists rarely do themselves any favours when they feel the need to spell out how their work should be understood. Besides being prescriptive, the name Nightmare sounds naff to me. It's melodramatic and it over-eggs. I would argue this unhelpfully taints our first impression of the piece, at the risk of diminishing its impact. Po met was presumably keen to convey the notion of nightmare. [And perhaps he was oddly resistant in this case to a more open interpretation of the work, or to multiple interpretations.] But even so, this could still have been achieved otherwise, in a manner that would actually be interesting. For example, through the use of understatement. I'd have chosen a completely mundane title โ one that could have illustrated Hannah Arendt's concept of "the banality of evil"*. 2. CompositionLike treweman, I have reservations about the composition of the piece. And on multiple fronts: 2.1 The placement of Ernie and Bert within the image seems too close to the middle. If they'd been positioned further to the right, the result would be visually more appealing to me. 2.2 Rather than square format, a rectangular image in landscape might have worked better โ like the 1936 source photograph below. Or a square composition, but one that offered additional negative space along the left and right sides of the grouped officers. Francisco Franco with officers and chiefs of the garrisons of the Canary Islands after some military manoeuvres and a meal. Monte de la Esperanza, Tenerife, 17 June 19362.3 Po met having cropped and changed the layout of the source photo isn't much of an issue. However, this should have been accompanied by complementary changes to the standing positions and orientation of some of the officers. Three or four of the men, at the left and right extremities of Nightmare, just look awkward. One on the far left is even facing the wrong direction (bearing in mind Po met's altered configuration of fewer people posing for the group photo). It is distracting, and unnecessarily so. 2.4 Sadly, the artist's cropped layout also led to a loss of the original focal point, along with some of the symmetry, thereby weakening the composition. [In the source photo, the viewer's eye is guided towards and initially rests upon General Franco at the front-centre, flanked by two colonels.]3. ConceptNotwithstanding my earlier comment in point 1 above, Nightmare leaves me puzzled about Paco Po met's intent, and what (if anything) he's trying to say. For the benefit of those who haven't noticed, General Franco was omitted from both the original painting and the print. His body is depicted, but his head was replaced by that of Colonel Gonzรกlez Peral (standing to the left of Franco in the source photo): The key figure from that 1936 group portrait was therefore anonymised by Po met. My question is Why?Given the source photo and the artwork's title, a natural assumption is that the nightmare Po met is referring to is the civil war and dictatorship which would shortly ensue. But by leaving out the face of the most recognisable Nationalist, the meaning of the piece becomes less clear. You end up with Ernie and Bert simply among unidentified officers in uniform. And this to me is conceptually confusing. What I'm hoping is that the artist is not making some sophomoric comment about the military being a nightmare in and of itself. That kind of blanket statement would be disappointing. Especially since, when the insurrection commenced on 18 July 1936 โ one month after the source photo was taken โ roughly half of the Spanish armed forces (wearing the same uniforms) would be fighting on the side of the Republicans. __________ In my opinion, Nightmare would have been stronger if it had been more faithful to the source photo (i.e. more faithful to historical accuracy), in all respects bar the replacement of two men by characters from Sesame Street. The most seductive lies are typically the ones that stick as closely as possible to the truth.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Sebastian Dusseldorf on Jan 29, 2021 15:25:49 GMT 1, Wow, what a brillant and reflected comment. I would love to own a Paco Pomet at some point, big fan of his dark humour, as a German raised very much anti-facist by default, at least read "To whom the bell tolls to know a bit about the civil war in Spain, so all in all this should have been a print for me, but you perfectly expressed the reasons why I didn't buy it in the end.
Wow, what a brillant and reflected comment. I would love to own a Paco Pomet at some point, big fan of his dark humour, as a German raised very much anti-facist by default, at least read "To whom the bell tolls to know a bit about the civil war in Spain, so all in all this should have been a print for me, but you perfectly expressed the reasons why I didn't buy it in the end.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Poly Mindset on Jan 30, 2021 7:00:47 GMT 1, Duh.....I think it's meant to leave you puzzled. Like when you wake up from a dream or a nightmare and say WTF was that? Then you realize the basis of it was something you saw earlier in the day, week or at sometime in your life but whatever it was in the dream or nightmare wasn't an exact replica. Which to me is why it has been cropped, Franco has been removed and there is officer different positioning. Nothing is suppose to be exactly the same....enter Burt and Ernie. Have you ever had a dream or nightmare that you way over analyze and never can figure it out. Maybe you are not meant to. Just enjoy it for what it is or was and find the humor in it. That's my interpretation of this piece. Don't overanalyze it, just enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the genius that is.... Paco Pomet.
Duh.....I think it's meant to leave you puzzled. Like when you wake up from a dream or a nightmare and say WTF was that? Then you realize the basis of it was something you saw earlier in the day, week or at sometime in your life but whatever it was in the dream or nightmare wasn't an exact replica. Which to me is why it has been cropped, Franco has been removed and there is officer different positioning. Nothing is suppose to be exactly the same....enter Burt and Ernie. Have you ever had a dream or nightmare that you way over analyze and never can figure it out. Maybe you are not meant to. Just enjoy it for what it is or was and find the humor in it. That's my interpretation of this piece. Don't overanalyze it, just enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the genius that is.... Paco Pomet.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by met on Jan 30, 2021 20:45:57 GMT 1, Duh.....I think it's meant to leave you puzzled. Like when you wake up from a dream or a nightmare and say WTF was that? Then you realize the basis of it was something you saw earlier in the day, week or at sometime in your life but whatever it was in the dream or nightmare wasn't an exact replica. Which to me is why it has been cropped, Franco has been removed and there is officer different positioning. Nothing is suppose to be exactly the same....enter Burt and Ernie. Have you ever had a dream or nightmare that you way over analyze and never can figure it out. Maybe you are not meant to. Just enjoy it for what it is or was and find the humor in it. That's my interpretation of this piece. Don't overanalyze it, just enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the genius that is.... Paco Pomet.
The areas of possible disagreement between us appear minimal. These are the ones I noticed:
(i) what I see as just thinking, you might instead describe as overanalysing; and
(ii) unless it was rhetorical and consciously hyperbolic, your use of the term "genius" is what I'd refer to as linguistic inflation.
With respect to point (ii), I am fond of Paco Pomet's work, own a couple of his prints, and have been loosely following his career since he was first mentioned on this forum in 2012* (hat tip to Smith and Stuff*). At the same time, Pattycakes's repeated charges of "a poor man's Mark Tansey"* sound to me like fair commentary โ or at least not entirely unfair.
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Our views align regarding many of your thoughts about Nightmare. I do enjoy playfulness in art, the surreal, and the whimsically absurd.
That said, for me there still seems to be a conceptual muddle which weakens this piece.
To further clarify:
1. By detaching the artwork from the reality of the source photograph, Pomet produced a new, ahistorical image. That's just being creative, an artist using his imagination and artistic licence. I have zero issue with this.
And so, cropping the original composition, reducing the number of officers posing for their group portrait, and moving some of them around, is all fine. Indeed, as you suggest, Pomet's image may be viewed as a dreamscape โ where one should actually expect plenty of distortion, as opposed to reality being faithfully replicated.
2. Nor was excluding General Franco from the artwork a problem in principle (despite the additional distancing, from both historical accuracy and the significance of the source photo).
Here, however, I believe it's important to recognise the knock-on effect of such a notable exclusion:
Among the officers posing in 1936, Franco was the only one the average viewer today might possibly have recognised, and identified as a Nationalist. By leaving him out of Nightmare, Pomet anonymised all of the others, thereby also concealing their allegiances.
What we arguably ended up with is a generic group of Spanish officers, largely removed from their original context. They ceased to specifically be Nationalists. Because, appearance-wise, they could just as easily be Loyalists / Republicans โ given the fact both sides wore the same uniforms.
3. Now, all of this ambiguity would potentially still be fine with me. And even appealing. I like the idea of questioning whether Ernie and Bert are forces for Good or for Evil. Should we be cheering them on, or afraid of them?
But the issue then reverts back to Pomet's choice of title:
The name Nightmare seems anything but ambiguous or subtle โ destroying much of what could have remained an engaging mystery surrounding the artist's intended tone.
It is in part that prescriptiveness of the title which is unsatisfactory to me, along with its seeming incongruity with an artwork that was (vis-ร -vis the source photo) in some measure neutralised by Pomet and made more compellingly enigmatic.
While superficially pleasing, what I sense in this instance is an artistic idea that was insufficiently thought through.
Duh.....I think it's meant to leave you puzzled. Like when you wake up from a dream or a nightmare and say WTF was that? Then you realize the basis of it was something you saw earlier in the day, week or at sometime in your life but whatever it was in the dream or nightmare wasn't an exact replica. Which to me is why it has been cropped, Franco has been removed and there is officer different positioning. Nothing is suppose to be exactly the same....enter Burt and Ernie. Have you ever had a dream or nightmare that you way over analyze and never can figure it out. Maybe you are not meant to. Just enjoy it for what it is or was and find the humor in it. That's my interpretation of this piece. Don't overanalyze it, just enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the genius that is.... Paco Pomet. The areas of possible disagreement between us appear minimal. These are the ones I noticed: (i) what I see as just thinking, you might instead describe as overanalysing; and (ii) unless it was rhetorical and consciously hyperbolic, your use of the term "genius" is what I'd refer to as linguistic inflation. With respect to point (ii), I am fond of Paco Pomet's work, own a couple of his prints, and have been loosely following his career since he was first mentioned on this forum in 2012 * (hat tip to Smith and Stuff*). At the same time, Pattycakes's repeated charges of "a poor man's Mark Tansey"* sound to me like fair commentary โ or at least not entirely unfair. __________ Our views align regarding many of your thoughts about Nightmare. I do enjoy playfulness in art, the surreal, and the whimsically absurd. That said, for me there still seems to be a conceptual muddle which weakens this piece. To further clarify:1. By detaching the artwork from the reality of the source photograph, Po met produced a new, ahistorical image. That's just being creative, an artist using his imagination and artistic licence. I have zero issue with this. And so, cropping the original composition, reducing the number of officers posing for their group portrait, and moving some of them around, is all fine. Indeed, as you suggest, Po met's image may be viewed as a dreamscape โ where one should actually expect plenty of distortion, as opposed to reality being faithfully replicated. 2. Nor was excluding General Franco from the artwork a problem in principle (despite the additional distancing, from both historical accuracy and the significance of the source photo). Here, however, I believe it's important to recognise the knock-on effect of such a notable exclusion: Among the officers posing in 1936, Franco was the only one the average viewer today might possibly have recognised, and identified as a Nationalist. By leaving him out of Nightmare, Po met anonymised all of the others, thereby also concealing their allegiances. What we arguably ended up with is a generic group of Spanish officers, largely removed from their original context. They ceased to specifically be Nationalists. Because, appearance-wise, they could just as easily be Loyalists / Republicans โ given the fact both sides wore the same uniforms. 3. Now, all of this ambiguity would potentially still be fine with me. And even appealing. I like the idea of questioning whether Ernie and Bert are forces for Good or for Evil. Should we be cheering them on, or afraid of them? But the issue then reverts back to Pomet's choice of title: The name Nightmare seems anything but ambiguous or subtle โ destroying much of what could have remained an engaging mystery surrounding the artist's intended tone. It is in part that prescriptiveness of the title which is unsatisfactory to me, along with its seeming incongruity with an artwork that was (vis-ร -vis the source photo) in some measure neutralised by Po met and made more compellingly enigmatic. While superficially pleasing, what I sense in this instance is an artistic idea that was insufficiently thought through.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Javier on Jan 30, 2021 21:06:41 GMT 1, Duh.....I think it's meant to leave you puzzled. Like when you wake up from a dream or a nightmare and say WTF was that? Then you realize the basis of it was something you saw earlier in the day, week or at sometime in your life but whatever it was in the dream or nightmare wasn't an exact replica. Which to me is why it has been cropped, Franco has been removed and there is officer different positioning. Nothing is suppose to be exactly the same....enter Burt and Ernie. Have you ever had a dream or nightmare that you way over analyze and never can figure it out. Maybe you are not meant to. Just enjoy it for what it is or was and find the humor in it. That's my interpretation of this piece. Don't overanalyze it, just enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the genius that is.... Paco Pomet. The areas of possible disagreement between us appear minimal. These are the ones I noticed: (i) what I see as just thinking, you might instead describe as overanalysing; and (ii) unless it was rhetorical and consciously hyperbolic, your use of the term "genius" is what I'd refer to as linguistic inflation. With respect to pointย (ii), I am fond of Paco Pomet's work, own a couple of his prints, and have been loosely following his career since he was first mentioned on this forum in 2012 * (hat tip to Smith and Stuff*). At the same time, Pattycakes's repeated charges of "a poor man's Mark Tansey"* sound to me like fair commentary โย or at least not entirely unfair. __________ Our views align regarding many of your thoughts about Nightmare. I do enjoy playfulness in art, the surreal, and the whimsically absurd. That said, for me there still seems to be a conceptual muddle which weakens this piece. To further clarify:1.ย By detaching the artwork from the reality of the source photograph, Po met produced a new, ahistorical image. That's just being creative, an artist using his imagination and artistic licence. I have zero issue with this. And so, cropping the original composition, reducing the number of officers posing for their group portrait, and moving some of them around, is all fine. Indeed, as you suggest, Po met's image may be viewed as a dreamscape โย where one should actually expect plenty of distortion, as opposed to reality being faithfully replicated. 2.ย Nor was excluding General Franco from the artwork a problem in principle (despite the additional distancing, from both historical accuracy and the significance of the source photo). Here, however, I believe it's important to recognise the knock-on effect of such a notable exclusion: Among the officers posing in 1936, Franco was the only one the average viewer today might possibly have recognised, and identified as a Nationalist. By leaving him out of Nightmare, Po met anonymised all of the others, thereby also concealing their allegiances. What we arguably ended up with is a generic group of Spanish officers, largely removed from their original context. They ceased to specifically be Nationalists. Because, appearance-wise, they could just as easily be Loyalistsย / Republicans โย given the fact both sides wore the same uniforms. 3.ย Now, all of this ambiguity would potentially still be fine with me. And even appealing. I like the idea of questioning whether Ernie and Bert are forces for Good or for Evil. Should we be cheering them on, or afraid of them? But the issue then reverts back to Pomet's choice of title: The name Nightmare seems anything but ambiguous or subtle โ destroying much of what could have remained an engaging mystery surrounding the artist's intended tone. It is in part that prescriptiveness of the title which is unsatisfactory to me, along with its seeming incongruity with an artwork that was (vis-ร -vis the source photo) in some measure neutralised by Po met and made more compellingly enigmatic. While superficially pleasing, what I sense in this instance is an artistic idea that was insufficiently thought through.
Not questioning interpretations (I love seeing deep debate analyzing artworks in this way), just a regional comment about point 2
You will not find any Spanish who may think that this could be the republican army
Duh.....I think it's meant to leave you puzzled. Like when you wake up from a dream or a nightmare and say WTF was that? Then you realize the basis of it was something you saw earlier in the day, week or at sometime in your life but whatever it was in the dream or nightmare wasn't an exact replica. Which to me is why it has been cropped, Franco has been removed and there is officer different positioning. Nothing is suppose to be exactly the same....enter Burt and Ernie. Have you ever had a dream or nightmare that you way over analyze and never can figure it out. Maybe you are not meant to. Just enjoy it for what it is or was and find the humor in it. That's my interpretation of this piece. Don't overanalyze it, just enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the genius that is.... Paco Pomet. The areas of possible disagreement between us appear minimal. These are the ones I noticed: (i) what I see as just thinking, you might instead describe as overanalysing; and (ii) unless it was rhetorical and consciously hyperbolic, your use of the term "genius" is what I'd refer to as linguistic inflation. With respect to pointย (ii), I am fond of Paco Pomet's work, own a couple of his prints, and have been loosely following his career since he was first mentioned on this forum in 2012 * (hat tip to Smith and Stuff*). At the same time, Pattycakes's repeated charges of "a poor man's Mark Tansey"* sound to me like fair commentary โย or at least not entirely unfair. __________ Our views align regarding many of your thoughts about Nightmare. I do enjoy playfulness in art, the surreal, and the whimsically absurd. That said, for me there still seems to be a conceptual muddle which weakens this piece. To further clarify:1.ย By detaching the artwork from the reality of the source photograph, Po met produced a new, ahistorical image. That's just being creative, an artist using his imagination and artistic licence. I have zero issue with this. And so, cropping the original composition, reducing the number of officers posing for their group portrait, and moving some of them around, is all fine. Indeed, as you suggest, Po met's image may be viewed as a dreamscape โย where one should actually expect plenty of distortion, as opposed to reality being faithfully replicated. 2.ย Nor was excluding General Franco from the artwork a problem in principle (despite the additional distancing, from both historical accuracy and the significance of the source photo). Here, however, I believe it's important to recognise the knock-on effect of such a notable exclusion: Among the officers posing in 1936, Franco was the only one the average viewer today might possibly have recognised, and identified as a Nationalist. By leaving him out of Nightmare, Po met anonymised all of the others, thereby also concealing their allegiances. What we arguably ended up with is a generic group of Spanish officers, largely removed from their original context. They ceased to specifically be Nationalists. Because, appearance-wise, they could just as easily be Loyalistsย / Republicans โย given the fact both sides wore the same uniforms. 3.ย Now, all of this ambiguity would potentially still be fine with me. And even appealing. I like the idea of questioning whether Ernie and Bert are forces for Good or for Evil. Should we be cheering them on, or afraid of them? But the issue then reverts back to Pomet's choice of title: The name Nightmare seems anything but ambiguous or subtle โ destroying much of what could have remained an engaging mystery surrounding the artist's intended tone. It is in part that prescriptiveness of the title which is unsatisfactory to me, along with its seeming incongruity with an artwork that was (vis-ร -vis the source photo) in some measure neutralised by Po met and made more compellingly enigmatic. While superficially pleasing, what I sense in this instance is an artistic idea that was insufficiently thought through. Not questioning interpretations (I love seeing deep debate analyzing artworks in this way), just a regional comment about point 2 You will not find any Spanish who may think that this could be the republican army
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by met on Feb 1, 2021 10:06:45 GMT 1, Not questioning interpretations (I love seeing deep debate analyzing artworks in this way), just a regional comment about point 2 You will not find any Spanish who may think that this could be the republican army
That's great, Javier. Thank you for the input.
It is oddly satisfying to me whenever my posts are corrected, qualified or challenged. While I make efforts to be considered and informed, getting it right is far more important than being right. The situation I'm always keen to avoid is misleading other people.
In this instance, what I clearly lacked was your local knowledge and perspective.
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Just a recap on my earlier thought process:
Leaving aside the various militias and foreign fighters, my understanding is that, at the outbreak of the insurrection in 1936, the regular Spanish armed forces were divided roughly in half, in their allegiance towards either the Nationalists or Republicans. And, as they wore the same uniforms, the officers on both sides presumably looked the same.
For this reason, in omitting from Nightmare the sole widely-recognised figure of General Franco, it seemed to me like Paco Pomet obscured the affiliation of the other officers (whose identities are unknown to Joe Public). In my own head, the artist had thereby rendered the political loyalties of those officers more interestingly unclear.
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What I gather from your helpful comment is that, at least among Spanish viewers, my reasoning was flawed. It failed to factor in an important variable:
Even with Franco left out of the artwork, Spaniards would still see the remaining officers in Nightmare as Nationalists โ as opposed to thinking they might be Republicans. And possibly also as opposed to being uncertain about which side the men were on, or just viewing them in a neutral light, as generic and non-partisan military figures.
I wondered whether the explanation for this could be down to the 1936 source photograph. As an aside, it appears to have been commemorated two years later in a series of stamps:
Perhaps that photo is just so well-known in Spain that it's become part of Nationalist iconography. To the point where, in the Spanish psyche, all other similar or derivative images of men in uniform posing on a forested mountain landscape (including images with altered compositions) are immediately associated with Franco.
Or perhaps it's a broader phenomenon, relating to the Nationalists having been the victors and the dictatorship that followed having lasted decades and generations. Query if the population might now make a subconscious assumption that any Spanish military group portrait (with a mid-20th-century feel to it) must almost invariably have a Nationalist connection.
Javier โ Any further thoughts you may have on this point would be most welcome.
Not questioning interpretations (I love seeing deep debate analyzing artworks in this way), just a regional comment about point 2 You will not find any Spanish who may think that this could be the republican army That's great, Javier. Thank you for the input. It is oddly satisfying to me whenever my posts are corrected, qualified or challenged. While I make efforts to be considered and informed, getting it right is far more important than being right. The situation I'm always keen to avoid is misleading other people. In this instance, what I clearly lacked was your local knowledge and perspective. __________ Just a recap on my earlier thought process: Leaving aside the various militias and foreign fighters, my understanding is that, at the outbreak of the insurrection in 1936, the regular Spanish armed forces were divided roughly in half, in their allegiance towards either the Nationalists or Republicans. And, as they wore the same uniforms, the officers on both sides presumably looked the same. For this reason, in omitting from Nightmare the sole widely-recognised figure of General Franco, it seemed to me like Paco Pomet obscured the affiliation of the other officers (whose identities are unknown to Joe Public). In my own head, the artist had thereby rendered the political loyalties of those officers more interestingly unclear. __________ What I gather from your helpful comment is that, at least among Spanish viewers, my reasoning was flawed. It failed to factor in an important variable: Even with Franco left out of the artwork, Spaniards would still see the remaining officers in Nightmare as Nationalists โ as opposed to thinking they might be Republicans. And possibly also as opposed to being uncertain about which side the men were on, or just viewing them in a neutral light, as generic and non-partisan military figures. I wondered whether the explanation for this could be down to the 1936 source photograph. As an aside, it appears to have been commemorated two years later in a series of stamps: Perhaps that photo is just so well-known in Spain that it's become part of Nationalist iconography. To the point where, in the Spanish psyche, all other similar or derivative images of men in uniform posing on a forested mountain landscape (including images with altered compositions) are immediately associated with Franco. Or perhaps it's a broader phenomenon, relating to the Nationalists having been the victors and the dictatorship that followed having lasted decades and generations. Query if the population might now make a subconscious assumption that any Spanish military group portrait (with a mid-20th-century feel to it) must almost invariably have a Nationalist connection. Javier โ Any further thoughts you may have on this point would be most welcome.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Javier on Feb 1, 2021 14:35:05 GMT 1, Not questioning interpretations (I love seeing deep debate analyzing artworks in this way), just a regional comment about point 2 You will not find any Spanish who may think that this could be the republican army That's great, Javier. Thank you for the input. It is oddly satisfying to me whenever my posts are corrected, qualified or challenged. While I make efforts to be considered and informed, getting it right is far more important than being right. The situation I'm always keen to avoid is misleading other people. In this instance, what I clearly lacked was your local knowledge and perspective. __________ Just a recap on my earlier thought process: Leaving aside the various militias and foreign fighters, my understanding is that, at the outbreak of the insurrection in 1936, the regular Spanish armed forces were divided roughly in half, in their allegiance towards either the Nationalists or Republicans. And, as they wore the same uniforms, the officers on both sides presumably looked the same. For this reason, in omitting from Nightmare the sole widely-recognised figure of Generalย Franco, it seemed to me like Pacoย Pomet obscured the affiliation of the other officers (whose identities are unknown to Joeย Public). In my own head, the artist had thereby rendered the political loyalties of those officers more interestingly unclear. __________ What I gather from your helpful comment is that, at least among Spanish viewers, my reasoning was flawed. It failed to factor in an important variable: Even with Franco left out of the artwork, Spaniards would still see the remaining officers in Nightmare as Nationalists โย as opposed to thinking they might be Republicans. And possibly also as opposed to being uncertain about which side the men were on, or just viewing them in a neutral light, as generic and non-partisan military figures. I wondered whether the explanation for this could be down to the 1936 source photograph. As an aside, it appears to have been commemorated two years later in a series of stamps: Perhaps that photo is just so well-known in Spain that it's become part of Nationalist iconography. To the point where, in the Spanish psyche, all other similar or derivative images of men in uniform posing on a forested mountain landscape (including images with altered compositions) are immediately associated with Franco. Or perhaps it's a broader phenomenon, relating to the Nationalists having been the victors and the dictatorship that followed having lasted decades and generations. Query if the population might now make a subconscious assumption that any Spanish military group portrait (with a mid-20th-century feel to it) must almost invariably have a Nationalist connection. Javier โ Any further thoughts you may have on this point would be most welcome.
Itโs a simple question. Groups of officials are related to nationalists, as militia groups to republicans. That is not totally real, yes, there was militia, but maybe our romantic thoughts make them seem more than what it really was, as a republican organized army existed.
But why do I link officers to fascists? Both parts committed atrocities, and each of them had their target. Sticking in this point, we must think who was the one who started the war: army officers. So, in ยฟmany? cases lots of officers were killed during the first moments, specially those who could be suspect of being politically right (as opposite to left, donโt understand me wrong). My father had a friend who was machinery officer in a submarine during the coup, and was in republican zone. He was the only officer who survived, and it was because of his knowledge of the machines. Black legend or not:
Segรบn el historiador Francisco Alรญa Miranda, tras el golpe el reparto de generales, jefes, oficiales y cadetes entre los dos bandos fue de 8.929 situados en la zona republicana y 9.294 en la zona rebelde (By historian Francisco Alรญa Miranda, after the coup...()...generals, chiefs, officers...()... 8.929 in republican zone, and 9.294 in rebel zone)
jefe y oficiales del bando rebelde fue creciendo hasta alcanzar los 14.104 efectivos el 1 de abril de 1939, la del bando republicano fue disminuyendo hasta quedar reducida a 4.771, (Chiefs and officers in rebel side number was rising until reaching 14.104 on April 1st 1939, and republican was going down until being reduced to 4.771)
Asรญ que mientras que en el bando sublevado solo 258 militares fueron fusilados o expulsados del Ejรฉrcito, en el bando republicano fueron expulsados 4.450, de los cuales 1.729 fueron fusilados (So, meanwhile in the stir up- side just 258 militaries were executed (shot) or expelled, in the republican side 4.450 were expelled, 1.729 of which were shot)
According to my dad, who always taught me many interesting things, that fact was important to the way the war finished. Just imagine former submarine without officers!
I include texts here, but also my impressions, my feelings. That I think are the feelings too of people who knows about the worst era in my country. And I am totally neutral. I know who was doing wrong or right, but also that BOTH sides made lots of horrible things. I hate that times, I hate that radicalism (that now seems to exist in many countries, mine as well), as i saw how people in my family was almost killed by both sides and for political reasons, not during a battle in the war
Not questioning interpretations (I love seeing deep debate analyzing artworks in this way), just a regional comment about point 2 You will not find any Spanish who may think that this could be the republican army That's great, Javier. Thank you for the input. It is oddly satisfying to me whenever my posts are corrected, qualified or challenged. While I make efforts to be considered and informed, getting it right is far more important than being right. The situation I'm always keen to avoid is misleading other people. In this instance, what I clearly lacked was your local knowledge and perspective. __________ Just a recap on my earlier thought process: Leaving aside the various militias and foreign fighters, my understanding is that, at the outbreak of the insurrection in 1936, the regular Spanish armed forces were divided roughly in half, in their allegiance towards either the Nationalists or Republicans. And, as they wore the same uniforms, the officers on both sides presumably looked the same. For this reason, in omitting from Nightmare the sole widely-recognised figure of Generalย Franco, it seemed to me like Pacoย Pomet obscured the affiliation of the other officers (whose identities are unknown to Joeย Public). In my own head, the artist had thereby rendered the political loyalties of those officers more interestingly unclear. __________ What I gather from your helpful comment is that, at least among Spanish viewers, my reasoning was flawed. It failed to factor in an important variable: Even with Franco left out of the artwork, Spaniards would still see the remaining officers in Nightmare as Nationalists โย as opposed to thinking they might be Republicans. And possibly also as opposed to being uncertain about which side the men were on, or just viewing them in a neutral light, as generic and non-partisan military figures. I wondered whether the explanation for this could be down to the 1936 source photograph. As an aside, it appears to have been commemorated two years later in a series of stamps: Perhaps that photo is just so well-known in Spain that it's become part of Nationalist iconography. To the point where, in the Spanish psyche, all other similar or derivative images of men in uniform posing on a forested mountain landscape (including images with altered compositions) are immediately associated with Franco. Or perhaps it's a broader phenomenon, relating to the Nationalists having been the victors and the dictatorship that followed having lasted decades and generations. Query if the population might now make a subconscious assumption that any Spanish military group portrait (with a mid-20th-century feel to it) must almost invariably have a Nationalist connection. Javier โ Any further thoughts you may have on this point would be most welcome. Itโs a simple question. Groups of officials are related to nationalists, as militia groups to republicans. That is not totally real, yes, there was militia, but maybe our romantic thoughts make them seem more than what it really was, as a republican organized army existed. But why do I link officers to fascists? Both parts committed atrocities, and each of them had their target. Sticking in this point, we must think who was the one who started the war: army officers. So, in ยฟmany? cases lots of officers were killed during the first moments, specially those who could be suspect of being politically right (as opposite to left, donโt understand me wrong). My father had a friend who was machinery officer in a submarine during the coup, and was in republican zone. He was the only officer who survived, and it was because of his knowledge of the machines. Black legend or not: Segรบn el historiador Francisco Alรญa Miranda, tras el golpe el reparto de generales, jefes, oficiales y cadetes entre los dos bandos fue de 8.929 situados en la zona republicana y 9.294 en la zona rebelde (By historian Francisco Alรญa Miranda, after the coup...()...generals, chiefs, officers...()... 8.929 in republican zone, and 9.294 in rebel zone) jefe y oficiales del bando rebelde fue creciendo hasta alcanzar los 14.104 efectivos el 1 de abril de 1939, la del bando republicano fue disminuyendo hasta quedar reducida a 4.771, (Chiefs and officers in rebel side number was rising until reaching 14.104 on April 1st 1939, and republican was going down until being reduced to 4.771) Asรญ que mientras que en el bando sublevado solo 258 militares fueron fusilados o expulsados del Ejรฉrcito, en el bando republicano fueron expulsados 4.450, de los cuales 1.729 fueron fusilados (So, meanwhile in the stir up- side just 258 militaries were executed (shot) or expelled, in the republican side 4.450 were expelled, 1.729 of which were shot) According to my dad, who always taught me many interesting things, that fact was important to the way the war finished. Just imagine former submarine without officers! I include texts here, but also my impressions, my feelings. That I think are the feelings too of people who knows about the worst era in my country. And I am totally neutral. I know who was doing wrong or right, but also that BOTH sides made lots of horrible things. I hate that times, I hate that radicalism (that now seems to exist in many countries, mine as well), as i saw how people in my family was almost killed by both sides and for political reasons, not during a battle in the war
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Poly Mindset on Feb 1, 2021 18:50:51 GMT 1, Duh.....I think it's meant to leave you puzzled. Like when you wake up from a dream or a nightmare and say WTF was that? Then you realize the basis of it was something you saw earlier in the day, week or at sometime in your life but whatever it was in the dream or nightmare wasn't an exact replica. Which to me is why it has been cropped, Franco has been removed and there is officer different positioning. Nothing is suppose to be exactly the same....enter Burt and Ernie. Have you ever had a dream or nightmare that you way over analyze and never can figure it out. Maybe you are not meant to. Just enjoy it for what it is or was and find the humor in it. That's my interpretation of this piece. Don't overanalyze it, just enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the genius that is.... Paco Pomet. The areas of possible disagreement between us appear minimal. These are the ones I noticed: (i) what I see as just thinking, you might instead describe as overanalysing; and (ii) unless it was rhetorical and consciously hyperbolic, your use of the term "genius" is what I'd refer to as linguistic inflation. With respect to point (ii), I am fond of Paco Pomet's work, own a couple of his prints, and have been loosely following his career since he was first mentioned on this forum in 2012 * (hat tip to Smith and Stuff *). At the same time, Pattycakes 's repeated charges of "a poor man's Mark Tansey"* sound to me like fair commentary โ or at least not entirely unfair. __________ Our views align regarding many of your thoughts about Nightmare. I do enjoy playfulness in art, the surreal, and the whimsically absurd. That said, for me there still seems to be a conceptual muddle which weakens this piece. To further clarify:1. By detaching the artwork from the reality of the source photograph, Po met produced a new, ahistorical image. That's just being creative, an artist using his imagination and artistic licence. I have zero issue with this. And so, cropping the original composition, reducing the number of officers posing for their group portrait, and moving some of them around, is all fine. Indeed, as you suggest, Po met's image may be viewed as a dreamscape โ where one should actually expect plenty of distortion, as opposed to reality being faithfully replicated. 2. Nor was excluding General Franco from the artwork a problem in principle (despite the additional distancing, from both historical accuracy and the significance of the source photo). Here, however, I believe it's important to recognise the knock-on effect of such a notable exclusion: Among the officers posing in 1936, Franco was the only one the average viewer today might possibly have recognised, and identified as a Nationalist. By leaving him out of Nightmare, Po met anonymised all of the others, thereby also concealing their allegiances. What we arguably ended up with is a generic group of Spanish officers, largely removed from their original context. They ceased to specifically be Nationalists. Because, appearance-wise, they could just as easily be Loyalists / Republicans โ given the fact both sides wore the same uniforms. 3. Now, all of this ambiguity would potentially still be fine with me. And even appealing. I like the idea of questioning whether Ernie and Bert are forces for Good or for Evil. Should we be cheering them on, or afraid of them? But the issue then reverts back to Pomet's choice of title: The name Nightmare seems anything but ambiguous or subtle โ destroying much of what could have remained an engaging mystery surrounding the artist's intended tone. It is in part that prescriptiveness of the title which is unsatisfactory to me, along with its seeming incongruity with an artwork that was (vis-ร -vis the source photo) in some measure neutralised by Po met and made more compellingly enigmatic. While superficially pleasing, what I sense in this instance is an artistic idea that was insufficiently thought through. I'm trying to understand your point of "conceptually muddled." I get it when you say you are fine with issue #1 as I too see it as the artist's dreamscape and Javier has pretty much clarified issue #2. I am humorously intrigued with your analysis of whether Burt and Ernie are to be viewed as either "good or evil" because IMHO it is neither. This gets back to my point of overanalyzing. I think Burt and Ernie are put in as just whimsical thought to add some humor to the dreamscape where Pomet is more defining what he said in the Juxtapose article about "sometimes humor represents the last and only resort to ride out hard issues." That being said, your comment of the "artist's idea being insufficiently thought through" in all honesty I disagree with. I think he thought this through very carefully. I agree with you in the sense that the title "Nightmare" is not suppose to be ambiguous or subtle. It is meant to serve as a reminder (though distorted as it may be for obvious reasons we seem to agree on) the horrific time Spain endured with the Francoist dictatorship and how it may continuously come back to haunt the people in whatever forum. It is simply a time they will never forget. Now, I may be completely wrong though I do love the exchange of ideas and debate regarding this piece and there is a chance that we may never truly know Pomet's intent unless he of course comes out and defines it verbally or in print. My thought though is, that may never happen and it is meant to as I said before "leave you puzzled" as a dream or nightmare may do. You may never figure it out completely. It is for exactly this reason that I used the term "genius".
Duh.....I think it's meant to leave you puzzled. Like when you wake up from a dream or a nightmare and say WTF was that? Then you realize the basis of it was something you saw earlier in the day, week or at sometime in your life but whatever it was in the dream or nightmare wasn't an exact replica. Which to me is why it has been cropped, Franco has been removed and there is officer different positioning. Nothing is suppose to be exactly the same....enter Burt and Ernie. Have you ever had a dream or nightmare that you way over analyze and never can figure it out. Maybe you are not meant to. Just enjoy it for what it is or was and find the humor in it. That's my interpretation of this piece. Don't overanalyze it, just enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the genius that is.... Paco Pomet. The areas of possible disagreement between us appear minimal. These are the ones I noticed: (i) what I see as just thinking, you might instead describe as overanalysing; and (ii) unless it was rhetorical and consciously hyperbolic, your use of the term "genius" is what I'd refer to as linguistic inflation. With respect to point (ii), I am fond of Paco Pomet's work, own a couple of his prints, and have been loosely following his career since he was first mentioned on this forum in 2012 * (hat tip to Smith and Stuff *). At the same time, Pattycakes 's repeated charges of "a poor man's Mark Tansey"* sound to me like fair commentary โ or at least not entirely unfair. __________ Our views align regarding many of your thoughts about Nightmare. I do enjoy playfulness in art, the surreal, and the whimsically absurd. That said, for me there still seems to be a conceptual muddle which weakens this piece. To further clarify:1. By detaching the artwork from the reality of the source photograph, Po met produced a new, ahistorical image. That's just being creative, an artist using his imagination and artistic licence. I have zero issue with this. And so, cropping the original composition, reducing the number of officers posing for their group portrait, and moving some of them around, is all fine. Indeed, as you suggest, Po met's image may be viewed as a dreamscape โ where one should actually expect plenty of distortion, as opposed to reality being faithfully replicated. 2. Nor was excluding General Franco from the artwork a problem in principle (despite the additional distancing, from both historical accuracy and the significance of the source photo). Here, however, I believe it's important to recognise the knock-on effect of such a notable exclusion: Among the officers posing in 1936, Franco was the only one the average viewer today might possibly have recognised, and identified as a Nationalist. By leaving him out of Nightmare, Po met anonymised all of the others, thereby also concealing their allegiances. What we arguably ended up with is a generic group of Spanish officers, largely removed from their original context. They ceased to specifically be Nationalists. Because, appearance-wise, they could just as easily be Loyalists / Republicans โ given the fact both sides wore the same uniforms. 3. Now, all of this ambiguity would potentially still be fine with me. And even appealing. I like the idea of questioning whether Ernie and Bert are forces for Good or for Evil. Should we be cheering them on, or afraid of them? But the issue then reverts back to Pomet's choice of title: The name Nightmare seems anything but ambiguous or subtle โ destroying much of what could have remained an engaging mystery surrounding the artist's intended tone. It is in part that prescriptiveness of the title which is unsatisfactory to me, along with its seeming incongruity with an artwork that was (vis-ร -vis the source photo) in some measure neutralised by Po met and made more compellingly enigmatic. While superficially pleasing, what I sense in this instance is an artistic idea that was insufficiently thought through. I'm trying to understand your point of "conceptually muddled." I get it when you say you are fine with issue #1 as I too see it as the artist's dreamscape and Javier has pretty much clarified issue #2. I am humorously intrigued with your analysis of whether Burt and Ernie are to be viewed as either "good or evil" because IMHO it is neither. This gets back to my point of overanalyzing. I think Burt and Ernie are put in as just whimsical thought to add some humor to the dreamscape where Pomet is more defining what he said in the Juxtapose article about "sometimes humor represents the last and only resort to ride out hard issues." That being said, your comment of the "artist's idea being insufficiently thought through" in all honesty I disagree with. I think he thought this through very carefully. I agree with you in the sense that the title "Nightmare" is not suppose to be ambiguous or subtle. It is meant to serve as a reminder (though distorted as it may be for obvious reasons we seem to agree on) the horrific time Spain endured with the Francoist dictatorship and how it may continuously come back to haunt the people in whatever forum. It is simply a time they will never forget. Now, I may be completely wrong though I do love the exchange of ideas and debate regarding this piece and there is a chance that we may never truly know Pomet's intent unless he of course comes out and defines it verbally or in print. My thought though is, that may never happen and it is meant to as I said before "leave you puzzled" as a dream or nightmare may do. You may never figure it out completely. It is for exactly this reason that I used the term "genius".
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by daver610 on Feb 1, 2021 22:45:48 GMT 1, I have the first edition colloured print of 2014
I have the first edition colloured print of 2014
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Art! on Feb 3, 2021 20:27:16 GMT 1, I'm looking to add a Paco original at some point but this one doesn't do it for me. Galleri Benoni are hosting a soloshow in march. Europe based (so not ideal) and titled 'Recent works' - they may be interested if the private sale avenue isn't working out for you? Thanks for the heads up, I'll reach out to them.
I'm looking to add a Paco original at some point but this one doesn't do it for me. Galleri Benoni are hosting a soloshow in march. Europe based (so not ideal) and titled 'Recent works' - they may be interested if the private sale avenue isn't working out for you? Thanks for the heads up, I'll reach out to them.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Pawel on Feb 4, 2021 11:32:58 GMT 1, Internacional b&w wanted, message me if you have one for sale One on Ebay for 750 pounds
Internacional b&w wanted, message me if you have one for sale One on Ebay for 750 pounds
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by duggyfresh on Feb 4, 2021 14:57:38 GMT 1, Internacional b&w wanted, message me if you have one for sale One on Ebay for 750 pounds
Thanks for the heads up just bought it
Internacional b&w wanted, message me if you have one for sale One on Ebay for 750 pounds Thanks for the heads up just bought it
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by lv90210 on Feb 10, 2021 17:13:39 GMT 1, Looking to purchase an original or two from Paco.
DM me.
thanks
Looking to purchase an original or two from Paco.
DM me.
thanks
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Inknart on Feb 10, 2021 17:16:18 GMT 1, Looking to purchase an original or two from Paco. DM me. thanks Is Paco P on the Rise?
Looking to purchase an original or two from Paco. DM me. thanks Is Paco P on the Rise?
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by lha on Feb 10, 2021 21:05:03 GMT 1, Looking to purchase an original or two from Paco. DM me. thanksย
Good luck in your search, there have been a few available here recently. Such an underrated artist IMHO. A Paco original was one of my favourite purchases of 2020, Honeymoon, oil, acrylic and ink marker on canvas.
Looking to purchase an original or two from Paco. DM me. thanksย Good luck in your search, there have been a few available here recently. Such an underrated artist IMHO. A Paco original was one of my favourite purchases of 2020, Honeymoon, oil, acrylic and ink marker on canvas.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by macfuton on Feb 10, 2021 21:10:23 GMT 1, Looking to purchase an original or two from Paco. DM me. thanksย Good luck in your search, there have been a few available here recently. Such an underrated artist IMHO. A Paco original was one of my favourite purchases of 2020, Honeymoon, oil, acrylic and ink marker on canvas.
Nice.
I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)?
I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach.
Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person.
Any tips appreciated.
Looking to purchase an original or two from Paco. DM me. thanksย Good luck in your search, there have been a few available here recently. Such an underrated artist IMHO. A Paco original was one of my favourite purchases of 2020, Honeymoon, oil, acrylic and ink marker on canvas. Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by lha on Feb 10, 2021 21:48:12 GMT 1, Good luck in your search, there have been a few available here recently. Such an underrated artist IMHO. A Paco original was one of my favourite purchases of 2020, Honeymoon, oil, acrylic and ink marker on canvas. Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated. The gallery in the link a few posts above is the main gallery outlet for Pacoโs work. Gallerie Benoni is where the current show is so they may have afew pieces though they get snapped up quickly www.galleribenoni.dk/ Richard Heller gallery in the US may have some pieces www.richardhellergallery.com prints still available from source, including Once Upon a Time and Rojo. Classics! www.cmwalter.com/en/product-category/paco-pomet-en/
Good luck in your search, there have been a few available here recently. Such an underrated artist IMHO. A Paco original was one of my favourite purchases of 2020, Honeymoon, oil, acrylic and ink marker on canvas. Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated. The gallery in the link a few posts above is the main gallery outlet for Pacoโs work. Gallerie Benoni is where the current show is so they may have afew pieces though they get snapped up quickly www.galleribenoni.dk/Richard Heller gallery in the US may have some pieces www.richardhellergallery.comprints still available from source, including Once Upon a Time and Rojo. Classics! www.cmwalter.com/en/product-category/paco-pomet-en/
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by macfuton on Feb 10, 2021 21:53:52 GMT 1, Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated. The gallery in the link a few posts above is the main gallery outlet for Pacoโs work. Gallerie Benoni is where the current show is so they may have afew pieces though they get snapped up quickly www.galleribenoni.dk/Richard Heller gallery in the US may have some pieces www.richardhellergallery.comprints still available from source, including Once Upon a Time and Rojo. Classics! www.cmwalter.com/en/product-category/paco-pomet-en/
Thank you - good to know the gallery above is the main source.
I have a couple of prints from CMWalter - brilliant!
I had been in touch with Benoni but they didn't yet have a list/catalogue. I'll drop them a line just now to see if they're any further forward. There's been a few things on their and Paco's Instagram recently.
Cheers!
Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated. The gallery in the link a few posts above is the main gallery outlet for Pacoโs work. Gallerie Benoni is where the current show is so they may have afew pieces though they get snapped up quickly www.galleribenoni.dk/Richard Heller gallery in the US may have some pieces www.richardhellergallery.comprints still available from source, including Once Upon a Time and Rojo. Classics! www.cmwalter.com/en/product-category/paco-pomet-en/Thank you - good to know the gallery above is the main source. I have a couple of prints from CMWalter - brilliant! I had been in touch with Benoni but they didn't yet have a list/catalogue. I'll drop them a line just now to see if they're any further forward. There's been a few things on their and Paco's Instagram recently. Cheers!
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Graham H on Feb 10, 2021 21:54:04 GMT 1, Great artist and an all round nice guy.
He is normally pretty responsive through IG, however, will always point folks to galleries and shows that he has coming up rather than selling ' Direct ' so to speak and its then a case of trying to get the PDF's.
From my experience, shows gradually sell through rather than Oli Epp style of waiting for years to get on a supposed list.. and normally there are a decent selection of sizes and price points on originals and drawings in most shows..
I love some of his work, some of it is a little dark for family displaying, and i dont really get some of the cartoon ones.. but whatever the image or subject, the quality of painting is superb and the technique has been mastered over many years
Defo not a flash in the pan artist
Good luck for anyone looking and love to see any that people may buy..
G
Good luck in your search, there have been a few available here recently. Such an underrated artist IMHO. A Paco original was one of my favourite purchases of 2020, Honeymoon, oil, acrylic and ink marker on canvas. Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated.
Great artist and an all round nice guy. He is normally pretty responsive through IG, however, will always point folks to galleries and shows that he has coming up rather than selling ' Direct ' so to speak and its then a case of trying to get the PDF's. From my experience, shows gradually sell through rather than Oli Epp style of waiting for years to get on a supposed list.. and normally there are a decent selection of sizes and price points on originals and drawings in most shows.. I love some of his work, some of it is a little dark for family displaying, and i dont really get some of the cartoon ones.. but whatever the image or subject, the quality of painting is superb and the technique has been mastered over many years Defo not a flash in the pan artist Good luck for anyone looking and love to see any that people may buy.. G Good luck in your search, there have been a few available here recently. Such an underrated artist IMHO. A Paco original was one of my favourite purchases of 2020, Honeymoon, oil, acrylic and ink marker on canvas. Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated.
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lha
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by lha on Feb 10, 2021 22:00:01 GMT 1, Great artist and an all round nice guy. He is normally pretty responsive through IG, however, will always point folks to galleries and shows that he has coming up rather than selling ' Direct ' so to speak and its then a case of trying to get the PDF's. From my experience, shows gradually sell through rather than Oli Epp style of waiting for years to get on a supposed list.. and normally there are a decent selection of sizes and price points on originals and drawings in most shows.. I love some of his work, some of it is a little dark for family displaying, and i dont really get some of the cartoon ones.. but whatever the image or subject, the quality of painting is superb and the technique has been mastered over many years Defo not a flash in the pan artist Good luck for anyone looking and love to see any that people may buy.. G Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated.
Nicely summed up G, Iโd certainly agree with what youโve said. Defo not a flash in the pan artist and none of the waiting list shenanigans. Consistent and with integrity.
Great artist and an all round nice guy. He is normally pretty responsive through IG, however, will always point folks to galleries and shows that he has coming up rather than selling ' Direct ' so to speak and its then a case of trying to get the PDF's. From my experience, shows gradually sell through rather than Oli Epp style of waiting for years to get on a supposed list.. and normally there are a decent selection of sizes and price points on originals and drawings in most shows.. I love some of his work, some of it is a little dark for family displaying, and i dont really get some of the cartoon ones.. but whatever the image or subject, the quality of painting is superb and the technique has been mastered over many years Defo not a flash in the pan artist Good luck for anyone looking and love to see any that people may buy.. G Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated. Nicely summed up G, Iโd certainly agree with what youโve said. Defo not a flash in the pan artist and none of the waiting list shenanigans. Consistent and with integrity.
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by macfuton on Feb 10, 2021 22:00:36 GMT 1, Great artist and an all round nice guy. He is normally pretty responsive through IG, however, will always point folks to galleries and shows that he has coming up rather than selling ' Direct ' so to speak and its then a case of trying to get the PDF's. From my experience, shows gradually sell through rather than Oli Epp style of waiting for years to get on a supposed list.. and normally there are a decent selection of sizes and price points on originals and drawings in most shows.. I love some of his work, some of it is a little dark for family displaying, and i dont really get some of the cartoon ones.. but whatever the image or subject, the quality of painting is superb and the technique has been mastered over many years Defo not a flash in the pan artist Good luck for anyone looking and love to see any that people may buy.. G Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated.
Thanks Graham - good to know and looks like I'm probably going down the right path with tracking his shows.
I agree with your taste - not really keen on the cartoony ones. And I'm wondering what I'm going to do with the recent Nightmare print...
Great artist and an all round nice guy. He is normally pretty responsive through IG, however, will always point folks to galleries and shows that he has coming up rather than selling ' Direct ' so to speak and its then a case of trying to get the PDF's. From my experience, shows gradually sell through rather than Oli Epp style of waiting for years to get on a supposed list.. and normally there are a decent selection of sizes and price points on originals and drawings in most shows.. I love some of his work, some of it is a little dark for family displaying, and i dont really get some of the cartoon ones.. but whatever the image or subject, the quality of painting is superb and the technique has been mastered over many years Defo not a flash in the pan artist Good luck for anyone looking and love to see any that people may buy.. G Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated. Thanks Graham - good to know and looks like I'm probably going down the right path with tracking his shows. I agree with your taste - not really keen on the cartoony ones. And I'm wondering what I'm going to do with the recent Nightmare print...
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Dive Jedi on Feb 10, 2021 22:04:26 GMT 1, Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated. The gallery in the link a few posts above is the main gallery outlet for Pacoโs work. Gallerie Benoni is where the current show is so they may have afew pieces though they get snapped up quickly www.galleribenoni.dk/Richard Heller gallery in the US may have some pieces www.richardhellergallery.comprints still available from source, including Once Upon a Time and Rojo. Classics! www.cmwalter.com/en/product-category/paco-pomet-en/ HEY, GREAT !! Many thanks !
Picked up a Rojo and a Habia una vez .
Paco Pomet at source. Who knew! Brilliant!
Nice. I'm also on the lookout for a Paco original. Can I ask if you found any good outlets (how did you come across yours)? I'm contemplating reaching out to him via Instagram but not sure if that's the best approach. Also he has a solo show coming up but I wouldn't be able to visit in person. Any tips appreciated. The gallery in the link a few posts above is the main gallery outlet for Pacoโs work. Gallerie Benoni is where the current show is so they may have afew pieces though they get snapped up quickly www.galleribenoni.dk/Richard Heller gallery in the US may have some pieces www.richardhellergallery.comprints still available from source, including Once Upon a Time and Rojo. Classics! www.cmwalter.com/en/product-category/paco-pomet-en/HEY, GREAT !! Many thanks ! Picked up a Rojo and a Habia una vez . Paco Pomet at source. Who knew! Brilliant!
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by Graham H on Feb 10, 2021 22:13:43 GMT 1, Still amazed that Habia Una Vez is still available.. ( wont be for long now the rush on here has started!!)
Superb print up close and done on really solid card type paper.
HEY, GREAT !! Many thanks ! Picked up a Rojo and a Habia una vez . Paco Pomet at source. Who knew! Brilliant!
Still amazed that Habia Una Vez is still available.. ( wont be for long now the rush on here has started!!) Superb print up close and done on really solid card type paper. HEY, GREAT !! Many thanks ! Picked up a Rojo and a Habia una vez . Paco Pomet at source. Who knew! Brilliant!
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by lha on Feb 10, 2021 22:16:16 GMT 1, Still amazed that Habia Una Vez is still available.. ( wont be for long now the rush on here has started!!) Superb print up close and done on really solid card type paper. HEY, GREAT !! Many thanks ! Picked up a Rojo and a Habia una vez . Paco Pomet at source. Who knew! Brilliant!
Likewise Graham, crazy that itโs been available for so long. One of the stand out pieces at Dismaland IMHO.
Still amazed that Habia Una Vez is still available.. ( wont be for long now the rush on here has started!!) Superb print up close and done on really solid card type paper. HEY, GREAT !! Many thanks ! Picked up a Rojo and a Habia una vez . Paco Pomet at source. Who knew! Brilliant! Likewise Graham, crazy that itโs been available for so long. One of the stand out pieces at Dismaland IMHO.
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