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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by jlf on Jul 22, 2014 11:35:37 GMT 1, Private listing and framed rings a few alarm bells...
What would you normally do on stuff like that, ask to see a photo of it out of the frame?
Private listing and framed rings a few alarm bells... That's a good point. I'm new to all this and never thought of that, will definitely consider that going forward. What would you normally do on stuff like that, ask to see a photo of it out of the frame? |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Quinnster on Jul 22, 2014 11:39:39 GMT 1, Chances are it's not conservation framed so damage to print.
And a private listing often means they have somthing to hide possible shill bidding....
Chances are it's not conservation framed so damage to print.
And a private listing often means they have somthing to hide possible shill bidding....
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by jlf on Jul 22, 2014 11:48:09 GMT 1, So is the general rule if it's framed, probably give it a miss?
Also if you're selling stuff that has been framed properly is it still worth taking it out or do you just make sure that it's specified in the listing
again sorry about all the questions, I'm just new to art and interested in learn as much as I can
So is the general rule if it's framed, probably give it a miss?
Also if you're selling stuff that has been framed properly is it still worth taking it out or do you just make sure that it's specified in the listing
again sorry about all the questions, I'm just new to art and interested in learn as much as I can
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Quinnster on Jul 22, 2014 11:55:27 GMT 1, So is the general rule if it's framed, probably give it a miss? Also if you're selling stuff that has been framed properly is it still worth taking it out or do you just make sure that it's specified in the listing again sorry about all the questions, I'm just new to art and interested in learn as much as I can
You have a bigger market if you unframed somthing as it can be shipped worldwide and there are no surprises for a buyer if you know the condition prior to bidding.
There are plent of horror story's on the forum about poor framing practices when people have brought framed prints.
Lots of these prints were cheap back in the day and quality framing costs a lot of money.
Chances are the buyer won't like the frame anyway so usually better to buy and sell unframed.
So is the general rule if it's framed, probably give it a miss? Also if you're selling stuff that has been framed properly is it still worth taking it out or do you just make sure that it's specified in the listing again sorry about all the questions, I'm just new to art and interested in learn as much as I can You have a bigger market if you unframed somthing as it can be shipped worldwide and there are no surprises for a buyer if you know the condition prior to bidding. There are plent of horror story's on the forum about poor framing practices when people have brought framed prints. Lots of these prints were cheap back in the day and quality framing costs a lot of money. Chances are the buyer won't like the frame anyway so usually better to buy and sell unframed. |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by jusdeep on Jul 22, 2014 14:13:01 GMT 1, To be honest a print such as this, printed on very heavy stock - almost card would be hard to damage. Even having the possibility of tape marks etc from float mounting wouldn't put me off for something as hard to come by or desirable.
It's only on the reverse and wouldn't be noticeable and most cases can be removed or repaired.
It only takes a few words with the seller to find out how it's been framed, he/she seems to have another for sale also framed the same way so looks like they had the two framed the same way and more than likely to a high standard.
That alone would suggest they know what they're doing and with the private listing, maybe they don't want everyone and their dog knowing their business.
It doesn't look like it's been shill bidded either otherwise it would be going for crazy money by now.
At the end of the day if it isn't as described after you have spoken with the seller you make a claim and get your money back. Some things, as hard to come by as this are worth taking a calculated risk.
To be honest a print such as this, printed on very heavy stock - almost card would be hard to damage. Even having the possibility of tape marks etc from float mounting wouldn't put me off for something as hard to come by or desirable.
It's only on the reverse and wouldn't be noticeable and most cases can be removed or repaired.
It only takes a few words with the seller to find out how it's been framed, he/she seems to have another for sale also framed the same way so looks like they had the two framed the same way and more than likely to a high standard.
That alone would suggest they know what they're doing and with the private listing, maybe they don't want everyone and their dog knowing their business.
It doesn't look like it's been shill bidded either otherwise it would be going for crazy money by now.
At the end of the day if it isn't as described after you have spoken with the seller you make a claim and get your money back. Some things, as hard to come by as this are worth taking a calculated risk.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 14:16:10 GMT 1, As was said earlier one of the more desirable pink Faile dog #2's just ended on eBay US for just over £1k. Did have a little tape damage to the back but was a good price. Not sure why private listing and framed would ring alarm bells.
You cant trust someones word alone, ive bought pieces off galleries framed and described as conservation framing and mint recently, one had been trimmed, the other had been stuck down, both were banksys, best to be safe.
As was said earlier one of the more desirable pink Faile dog #2's just ended on eBay US for just over £1k. Did have a little tape damage to the back but was a good price. Not sure why private listing and framed would ring alarm bells. Framing can hide many issues, drymounting, dogears, damaged edges, the print may have been trimmed, all reduce the value and ive seen them all first hand, now as a rule i dont buy anything until its been taken out of the frame, i agree the sale on the basis that once its removed alls well. You cant trust someones word alone, ive bought pieces off galleries framed and described as conservation framing and mint recently, one had been trimmed, the other had been stuck down, both were banksys, best to be safe. |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by jusdeep on Jul 22, 2014 14:42:50 GMT 1, Of course, my point was if there is an issue or any doubt ask the seller before buying on eBay.
If the seller is genuine and up front they will not hold any information back if not and alarm bells are ringing or the deal is too good to be true then steer clear.
If it's a private sale and the seller is accommodating then paying after everything checks out is always an option, although probably not possible in the majority of sales and possibly only with high value prints.
If paying by Paypal and it's not as described take it up with the seller or in a worse case scenario you get your money back through a dispute.
Of course, my point was if there is an issue or any doubt ask the seller before buying on eBay.
If the seller is genuine and up front they will not hold any information back if not and alarm bells are ringing or the deal is too good to be true then steer clear.
If it's a private sale and the seller is accommodating then paying after everything checks out is always an option, although probably not possible in the majority of sales and possibly only with high value prints.
If paying by Paypal and it's not as described take it up with the seller or in a worse case scenario you get your money back through a dispute.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by andyroo0312 on Jul 23, 2014 2:57:40 GMT 1, Looks like the dog was pulled before the auction ended.
Looks like the dog was pulled before the auction ended.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by dwight on Jul 23, 2014 3:38:58 GMT 1, I bought the Faile Dog II that you guys are talking about ($1775usd). The damage he is talking about is so minimal you wouldn't notice unless specifically noted. Most sellers wouldn't have even mentioned it and the buyer wouldn't have known the difference. The paper is thick and there is so much ink and whatever else they use to stain these that you can't see unless you look very closely.
www.ebay.com/itm/231276090496?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648
I bought the Faile Dog II that you guys are talking about ($1775usd). The damage he is talking about is so minimal you wouldn't notice unless specifically noted. Most sellers wouldn't have even mentioned it and the buyer wouldn't have known the difference. The paper is thick and there is so much ink and whatever else they use to stain these that you can't see unless you look very closely. www.ebay.com/itm/231276090496?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648 |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by andyroo0312 on Jul 23, 2014 6:41:25 GMT 1, I bought the Faile Dog II that you guys are talking about ($1775usd). The damage he is talking about is so minimal you wouldn't notice unless specifically noted. Most sellers wouldn't have even mentioned it and the buyer wouldn't have known the difference. The paper is thick and there is so much ink and whatever else they use to stain these that you can't see unless you look very closely. www.ebay.com/itm/231276090496?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648
I bought the Faile Dog II that you guys are talking about ($1775usd). The damage he is talking about is so minimal you wouldn't notice unless specifically noted. Most sellers wouldn't have even mentioned it and the buyer wouldn't have known the difference. The paper is thick and there is so much ink and whatever else they use to stain these that you can't see unless you look very closely. www.ebay.com/itm/231276090496?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648That was a great score, if i hadn't just scored the Savage World II i think we would of had a battle going on ;)All the dogs are great and will hopefully get the next one that pops up but after 5 in as many weeks i fear that will be some time... post some pic,s when you get it framed up if you don't mind. With print this size there is no excuse not to use tru vue optical or museum glass to really show that dogs beauty off. I am currently saving to afford museum glass for my Savage World but being some what larger makes it very costly indeed plus down here it is a lot more expensive than what you lucky bastards pay.. |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by dwight on Jul 23, 2014 15:18:42 GMT 1, I'm going to hang it with my other dogs...now if I can just source another ecru dog..
 faile by ffosterm, on Flickr
I'm going to hang it with my other dogs...now if I can just source another ecru dog.. faile by ffosterm, on Flickr |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Quinnster on Jul 23, 2014 15:50:50 GMT 1, I'm going to hang it with my other dogs...now if I can just source another ecru dog.. faile by ffosterm, on Flickr
Very very nice collection.....
I'm going to hang it with my other dogs...now if I can just source another ecru dog.. faile by ffosterm, on Flickr Very very nice collection..... |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by andyroo0312 on Jul 23, 2014 16:15:37 GMT 1, Nice that does look very nice..
Nice that does look very nice..
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Quinnster on Jul 24, 2014 20:55:22 GMT 1, Of course, my point was if there is an issue or any doubt ask the seller before buying on eBay. If the seller is genuine and up front they will not hold any information back if not and alarm bells are ringing or the deal is too good to be true then steer clear. If it's a private sale and the seller is accommodating then paying after everything checks out is always an option, although probably not possible in the majority of sales and possibly only with high value prints. If paying by Paypal and it's not as described take it up with the seller or in a worse case scenario you get your money back through a dispute.
Good advice the Dog was conservation framed with tru view glass I picked it up this afternoon :-)
Of course, my point was if there is an issue or any doubt ask the seller before buying on eBay. If the seller is genuine and up front they will not hold any information back if not and alarm bells are ringing or the deal is too good to be true then steer clear. If it's a private sale and the seller is accommodating then paying after everything checks out is always an option, although probably not possible in the majority of sales and possibly only with high value prints. If paying by Paypal and it's not as described take it up with the seller or in a worse case scenario you get your money back through a dispute. Good advice the Dog was conservation framed with tru view glass I picked it up this afternoon :-) |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by jusdeep on Jul 25, 2014 11:24:06 GMT 1, Good, glad it went to a good home. Far too much scaremongering on here sometimes without due cause.
Good, glad it went to a good home. Far too much scaremongering on here sometimes without due cause. |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Abcprinthouse on Jul 26, 2014 0:27:09 GMT 1, I thought 1,3k was way overpriced and just wanted a quick buy. But still nada. Looks like people are holding on tight to their Red Dogs
I thought 1,3k was way overpriced and just wanted a quick buy. But still nada. Looks like people are holding on tight to their Red Dogs
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by jusdeep on Jul 26, 2014 6:39:41 GMT 1, Maybe it is, but Faile only released part of the 100 Shimmering Red Dogs. A few years ago you could have picked one up for under £500, now you'd be lucky to find one. You certainly don't see them come up all that often. Imo they're iconic from that era and the dog in particular is synonymous with Faile.
I certainly wished I'd picked one up earlier on, but probably like most was hoping Faile would eventually get around to releasing the rest of the edition.
Maybe it is, but Faile only released part of the 100 Shimmering Red Dogs. A few years ago you could have picked one up for under £500, now you'd be lucky to find one. You certainly don't see them come up all that often. Imo they're iconic from that era and the dog in particular is synonymous with Faile.
I certainly wished I'd picked one up earlier on, but probably like most was hoping Faile would eventually get around to releasing the rest of the edition.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Quinnster on Jul 26, 2014 7:04:48 GMT 1, I thought 1,3k was way overpriced and just wanted a quick buy. But still nada. Looks like people are holding on tight to their Red Dogs
Keep looking 4/5 dogs have come up In the last few weeks not all red but all lovely. I went after them all and got the eBay one. I don't think your offer is the problem you just have to move fast.
£1.3 or less will get you one.
I searched eBay worldwide for weeks before one came up. Agreed they are the classic Faile, don't give up you will get one.
I thought 1,3k was way overpriced and just wanted a quick buy. But still nada. Looks like people are holding on tight to their Red Dogs Keep looking 4/5 dogs have come up In the last few weeks not all red but all lovely. I went after them all and got the eBay one. I don't think your offer is the problem you just have to move fast. £1.3 or less will get you one. I searched eBay worldwide for weeks before one came up. Agreed they are the classic Faile, don't give up you will get one. |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by dwight on Jul 30, 2014 20:43:05 GMT 1, Maybe it is, but Faile only released part of the 100 Shimmering Red Dogs. A few years ago you could have picked one up for under £500, now you'd be lucky to find one. You certainly don't see them come up all that often. Imo they're iconic from that era and the dog in particular is synonymous with Faile. I certainly wished I'd picked one up earlier on, but probably like most was hoping Faile would eventually get around to releasing the rest of the edition.
Maybe it is, but Faile only released part of the 100 Shimmering Red Dogs. A few years ago you could have picked one up for under £500, now you'd be lucky to find one. You certainly don't see them come up all that often. Imo they're iconic from that era and the dog in particular is synonymous with Faile. I certainly wished I'd picked one up earlier on, but probably like most was hoping Faile would eventually get around to releasing the rest of the edition. That's very interesting, I did not know that the entire edition was never issued. That really makes a lot of sense, because I had always wondered why the red ones don't come up for sale more often. I also agree that these are iconic and synonymous with Faile and the urban art movement. I think that the image is a classic example of image repetition and a quality and iconic Faile image. |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by jusdeep on Jul 30, 2014 21:11:59 GMT 1, They released them in blocks of ten and as with a few other early classics never got around to releasing the whole edition.
They released them in blocks of ten and as with a few other early classics never got around to releasing the whole edition.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by valentina on Aug 25, 2014 15:38:12 GMT 1, Hey there,
Looking for a FAILE Dog - PM me piece and price.
Thanks!
ANOTONE
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Hey there,
Looking for a FAILE Dog - PM me piece and price.
Thanks!
ANOTONE
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by beenrhymin on Aug 25, 2014 15:57:14 GMT 1, Ghostofjohnas had one up recently.....
Ghostofjohnas had one up recently.....
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Quinnster on Aug 25, 2014 17:17:25 GMT 1, 5 have been up for sale in the last month or so if you have cash keep looking and are quick you will get one...
It took me a while to find one but well worth it. It is the classic Faile image.
Good luck.
5 have been up for sale in the last month or so if you have cash keep looking and are quick you will get one...
It took me a while to find one but well worth it. It is the classic Faile image.
Good luck.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by valentina on Aug 25, 2014 19:23:54 GMT 1, Thanks - yeah, anyone that has one they can part with. Cash in hand. PM me pic and price.
Thanks - yeah, anyone that has one they can part with. Cash in hand. PM me pic and price.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by stang on Aug 25, 2014 19:29:49 GMT 1, 5 have been up for sale in the last month or so if you have cash keep looking and are quick you will get one... It took me a while to find one but well worth it. It is the classic Faile image. Good luck.
Where have you seen five??!! Are you talking just on here or eBay etc? Just interested as have been watching for them very closely (or so I thought)
5 have been up for sale in the last month or so if you have cash keep looking and are quick you will get one... It took me a while to find one but well worth it. It is the classic Faile image. Good luck. Where have you seen five??!! Are you talking just on here or eBay etc? Just interested as have been watching for them very closely (or so I thought) |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by Quinnster on Aug 25, 2014 20:58:14 GMT 1, 5 have been up for sale in the last month or so if you have cash keep looking and are quick you will get one... It took me a while to find one but well worth it. It is the classic Faile image. Good luck. Where have you seen five??!! Are you talking just on here or eBay etc? Just interested as have been watching for them very closely (or so I thought)
One small edition large one on the forum
One red one on the forum
One might sell last week on the forum
On on eBay USA brought by a forum member
And a red one on eBay brough outside of eBay by me :-)
5 have been up for sale in the last month or so if you have cash keep looking and are quick you will get one... It took me a while to find one but well worth it. It is the classic Faile image. Good luck. Where have you seen five??!! Are you talking just on here or eBay etc? Just interested as have been watching for them very closely (or so I thought) One small edition large one on the forum One red one on the forum One might sell last week on the forum On on eBay USA brought by a forum member And a red one on eBay brough outside of eBay by me :-) |
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by andyroo0312 on Aug 26, 2014 5:21:12 GMT 1, Quinnster is correct there was also one on artnet 2mths ago that went pretty cheap $1200+buyer premium.
Quinnster is correct there was also one on artnet 2mths ago that went pretty cheap $1200+buyer premium.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by mp on Nov 18, 2014 0:51:23 GMT 1, Piece has been sold to a wonderful new home. Thanks for all the inquiries everyone.
Piece has been sold to a wonderful new home. Thanks for all the inquiries everyone.
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by WOOF on Nov 18, 2014 0:52:47 GMT 1, I just came. You owe me a new pair of boxers...
I just came. You owe me a new pair of boxers...
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Faile • Dog Prints, All Editions , by me on Nov 18, 2014 0:53:52 GMT 1, Love love love this
Love love love this
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