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Ben Eine at Phillips, by Hubble Bubble on Jan 16, 2019 9:36:12 GMT 1, I'm not altogether sure how the number of children a person parents can be correlated to their ability to be a role model. ย Not everyone is blessed with a nuclear family in these modern times. ย If his seven children from several different partners are loved and appreciated, cared for and nurtured then, to me, that would be infinitely preferable to parenting a single, unloved and unwanted child. ย Yes, the man made a grievous mistake, but let's not bring his children into this. you are ย Totally reading into this wrongly ,as usual on a forum, bit too in depth reading into your mindset from the little words I wrote ๐ Being a celebrity highlighted this story more than the average person hitting a woman . the main point was referencing hitting out using violence when losing control of a conversation , hitting out of anger in regards to being a role model . if you do not like what you are verbally hearing it is ok to strike out? when only a discussion is taking place and in no immediate harm needed to defend one self children are more media socially aware than ever with the internet ย and will stumble upon all sorts of stuff good and bad regarding this on the internet and would probably be more offended by how their father is described elsewhere on this thread. very lucky guy to have 7 children , many in the world desperately would be happy to have one child ย but unfortunately can not for health reasons is that ok?๐ค๐ค
Makes perfect sense and some valid points. Apologies for misinterpreting your original post.
I could take your zippy mouth logo as a request to keep my mouth shut but one of your points is that itโs easy to read the wrong thing into forum posts so I wonโt.
I'm not altogether sure how the number of children a person parents can be correlated to their ability to be a role model. ย Not everyone is blessed with a nuclear family in these modern times. ย If his seven children from several different partners are loved and appreciated, cared for and nurtured then, to me, that would be infinitely preferable to parenting a single, unloved and unwanted child. ย Yes, the man made a grievous mistake, but let's not bring his children into this. you are ย Totally reading into this wrongly ,as usual on a forum, bit too in depth reading into your mindset from the little words I wrote ๐ Being a celebrity highlighted this story more than the average person hitting a woman . the main point was referencing hitting out using violence when losing control of a conversation , hitting out of anger in regards to being a role model . if you do not like what you are verbally hearing it is ok to strike out? when only a discussion is taking place and in no immediate harm needed to defend one self children are more media socially aware than ever with the internet ย and will stumble upon all sorts of stuff good and bad regarding this on the internet and would probably be more offended by how their father is described elsewhere on this thread. very lucky guy to have 7 children , many in the world desperately would be happy to have one child ย but unfortunately can not for health reasons is that ok?๐ค๐ค Makes perfect sense and some valid points. Apologies for misinterpreting your original post. I could take your zippy mouth logo as a request to keep my mouth shut but one of your points is that itโs easy to read the wrong thing into forum posts so I wonโt. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by Guy Denning on Jan 16, 2019 11:49:40 GMT 1, What kind of artist are you, watching The Apprentice? Whats the Apprentice?
What kind of artist are you, watching The Apprentice? Whats the Apprentice? Television's still a thing? I turned it off after Arthur Fonzarelli jumped over that shark. I couldn't see how it could be topped. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by Carl Cashman on Jan 16, 2019 11:54:31 GMT 1, Television's still a thing? I turned it off after Arthur Fonzarelli jumped over that shark. I couldn't see how it could be topped.
Television's still a thing? I turned it off after Arthur Fonzarelli jumped over that shark. I couldn't see how it could be topped. Tv died when they stopped making only fools Xmas specials. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by Leo Boyd on Jan 16, 2019 12:25:39 GMT 1, Television's still a thing? I turned it off after Arthur Fonzarelli jumped over that shark. I couldn't see how it could be topped. Tv died when they stopped making only fools Xmas specials.
Television's still a thing? I turned it off after Arthur Fonzarelli jumped over that shark. I couldn't see how it could be topped. Tv died when they stopped making only fools Xmas specials. I can't think of only fools and horses without being reminded of this |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by Film Director 247 on Jan 16, 2019 12:25:42 GMT 1, Television's still a thing? I turned it off after Arthur Fonzarelli jumped over that shark. I couldn't see how it could be topped.
Television's still a thing? I turned it off after Arthur Fonzarelli jumped over that shark. I couldn't see how it could be topped. Ha, he jumped it in Arrested Development too! |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by moron on Jan 16, 2019 13:45:11 GMT 1, Retna got a pass because his work flips. Did anyone ring up Alan sugar because Retna had work in the house where the contestants lived during the apprentice?
I asked Sugar how did a no charisma no talent guy like him get such a good gig on the BBC and also about him calling Trump sexist yet all his (sugars) female celebrity contestants are very attractive eye candy and did he choose them himself.
Retna got a pass because his work flips. Did anyone ring up Alan sugar because Retna had work in the house where the contestants lived during the apprentice? I asked Sugar how did a no charisma no talent guy like him get such a good gig on the BBC and also about him calling Trump sexist yet all his (sugars) female celebrity contestants are very attractive eye candy and did he choose them himself. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by moron on Jan 16, 2019 13:54:46 GMT 1, Where does one draw the line at being judgemental. Eine was punished and it's up to people if they think they want to buy his art or not. The music business is rife with musicians who have abused or been violent to women. The film business too and also the art business. Plus the artists who support or condone oppression of women are as bad as the people who oppress or treat violently, women.
Where does one draw the line at being judgemental. Eine was punished and it's up to people if they think they want to buy his art or not. The music business is rife with musicians who have abused or been violent to women. The film business too and also the art business. Plus the artists who support or condone oppression of women are as bad as the people who oppress or treat violently, women.
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by tab1 on Jan 16, 2019 22:43:33 GMT 1, you are ย Totally reading into this wrongly ,as usual on a forum, bit too in depth reading into your mindset from the little words I wrote ๐ Being a celebrity highlighted this story more than the average person hitting a woman . the main point was referencing hitting out using violence when losing control of a conversation , hitting out of anger in regards to being a role model . if you do not like what you are verbally hearing it is ok to strike out? when only a discussion is taking place and in no immediate harm needed to defend one self children are more media socially aware than ever with the internet ย and will stumble upon all sorts of stuff good and bad regarding this on the internet and would probably be more offended by how their father is described elsewhere on this thread. very lucky guy to have 7 children , many in the world desperately would be happy to have one child ย but unfortunately can not for health reasons is that ok?๐ค๐ค Makes perfect sense and some valid points. Apologies for misinterpreting your original post. I could take your zippy mouth logo as a request to keep my mouth shut but one of your points is that itโs easy to read the wrong thing into forum posts so I wonโt.
๐๐ค๐ค๐๐๐without finer details everyone interprets things slightly different from one another, mostly all strangers here so easy to make wrong assumptions sometimes ๐Zippy emotion was actually towards myself๐
you are ย Totally reading into this wrongly ,as usual on a forum, bit too in depth reading into your mindset from the little words I wrote ๐ Being a celebrity highlighted this story more than the average person hitting a woman . the main point was referencing hitting out using violence when losing control of a conversation , hitting out of anger in regards to being a role model . if you do not like what you are verbally hearing it is ok to strike out? when only a discussion is taking place and in no immediate harm needed to defend one self children are more media socially aware than ever with the internet ย and will stumble upon all sorts of stuff good and bad regarding this on the internet and would probably be more offended by how their father is described elsewhere on this thread. very lucky guy to have 7 children , many in the world desperately would be happy to have one child ย but unfortunately can not for health reasons is that ok?๐ค๐ค Makes perfect sense and some valid points. Apologies for misinterpreting your original post. I could take your zippy mouth logo as a request to keep my mouth shut but one of your points is that itโs easy to read the wrong thing into forum posts so I wonโt. ๐๐ค๐ค๐๐๐without finer details everyone interprets things slightly different from one another, mostly all strangers here so easy to make wrong assumptions sometimes ๐Zippy emotion was actually towards myself๐ |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Jan 17, 2019 7:38:20 GMT 1, Tv died when they stopped making only fools Xmas specials. I can't think of only fools and horses without being reminded of this
Tv died when they stopped making only fools Xmas specials. I can't think of only fools and horses without being reminded of this |
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Hubble Bubble
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by Hubble Bubble on Jan 17, 2019 8:36:06 GMT 1, Makes perfect sense and some valid points. Apologies for misinterpreting your original post. I could take your zippy mouth logo as a request to keep my mouth shut but one of your points is that itโs easy to read the wrong thing into forum posts so I wonโt. ๐๐ค๐ค๐๐๐without finer details everyone interprets things slightly different from one another, mostly all strangers here so easy to make wrong assumptions sometimes ๐Zippy emotion was actually towards myself๐
I feel now like we are almost brothers 
Nice chatting with you, my friend.
Makes perfect sense and some valid points. Apologies for misinterpreting your original post. I could take your zippy mouth logo as a request to keep my mouth shut but one of your points is that itโs easy to read the wrong thing into forum posts so I wonโt. ๐๐ค๐ค๐๐๐without finer details everyone interprets things slightly different from one another, mostly all strangers here so easy to make wrong assumptions sometimes ๐Zippy emotion was actually towards myself๐ I feel now like we are almost brothers Nice chatting with you, my friend. |
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tab1
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by tab1 on Jan 17, 2019 13:19:31 GMT 1, ๐๐ค๐ค๐๐๐without finer details everyone interprets things slightly different from one another, mostly all strangers here so easy to make wrong assumptions sometimes ๐Zippy emotion was actually towards myself๐ I feel now like we are almost brothers Nice chatting with you, my friend.
๐That's what forums are for , bit of friendly discussion the majority of the time๐ฌ
Lucky I am not discussing aps/pps , a whole different outcome ensues๐ฎ๐
If this artist did not have this incident hanging over him
Could see a few galleries getting behind him this year like invaders new interest and rise
He Has all the history for this fairly new art scene
Original early artist from the start
Member of pow
Printer of banksy
Street graffiti
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Eine
Plus his work has the new modern interior feel, popular with interior designers , trendy at the moment feel.
๐๐ค๐ค๐๐๐without finer details everyone interprets things slightly different from one another, mostly all strangers here so easy to make wrong assumptions sometimes ๐Zippy emotion was actually towards myself๐ I feel now like we are almost brothers Nice chatting with you, my friend. ๐That's what forums are for , bit of friendly discussion the majority of the time๐ฌ Lucky I am not discussing aps/pps , a whole different outcome ensues๐ฎ๐ If this artist did not have this incident hanging over him Could see a few galleries getting behind him this year like invaders new interest and rise He Has all the history for this fairly new art scene Original early artist from the start Member of pow Printer of banksy Street graffiti en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_EinePlus his work has the new modern interior feel, popular with interior designers , trendy at the moment feel. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by tab1 on Jan 17, 2019 14:47:57 GMT 1, I can't think of only fools and horses without being reminded of this
www.blackbookgallery.com/artists/ben-eine/
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by iamzero on Jan 17, 2019 18:02:10 GMT 1, He broke the law. He was punished for it.
He broke the law. He was punished for it.
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by Fast Eddie on Jan 18, 2019 2:37:19 GMT 1, That is how the justice system works and it is fair.
But here we are discussing how the act he committed reflects on his art. Specifically, how it changes how its message is perceived and how this act ultimately affects how you look at his work and enjoy it.
That is how the justice system works and it is fair.
But here we are discussing how the act he committed reflects on his art. Specifically, how it changes how its message is perceived and how this act ultimately affects how you look at his work and enjoy it.
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by iamzero on Jan 18, 2019 8:31:44 GMT 1, Like the art worlds version of The Equaliser?
Like the art worlds version of The Equaliser?
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by lacklisted on Jan 18, 2019 9:27:21 GMT 1, He broke the law. He was punished for it.
He broke the law. He was punished for it. Hmmm, so was Garry Glitter, but i ain't gonna be buying his records either. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by skAcid on Jan 18, 2019 11:52:10 GMT 1, He broke the law. He was punished for it. Hmmm, so was Garry Glitter, but i ain't gonna be buying his records either.
Glitter is a dirty f*cking nonce!
Zero comparison
He broke the law. He was punished for it. Hmmm, so was Garry Glitter, but i ain't gonna be buying his records either. Glitter is a dirty f*cking nonce! Zero comparison |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by blerd on Jan 18, 2019 12:22:20 GMT 1, Hmmm, so was Garry Glitter, but i ain't gonna be buying his records either. Glitter is a dirty f*cking nonce! Zero comparison
Hmmm, so was Garry Glitter, but i ain't gonna be buying his records either. Glitter is a dirty f*cking nonce! Zero comparison I find any violence against women or children abhorrent. Beyond punishment by law. I can't support him. No judgement on people that do though. its just my opinion. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by tab1 on Jan 18, 2019 18:45:35 GMT 1, Glitter is a dirty f*cking nonce! Zero comparison I find any violence against women or children abhorrent. Beyond punishment by law. I can't support him. No judgement on people that do though. its just my opinion.ย
Usually past history and repeated behaviour in domestic violence , maybe only because witnesses were present it got reported ? Who knows ?
We can laugh and some be nonchalant that he's served his justice but if it were your daughter , mother , grandmother , aunt or cousin would people here commenting have the same lack of empathy ?
Majority of buyers of his art will not know background or events as shown here by people more keen in the art world so sales will not faulter from this forum discussion.
Glitter is a dirty f*cking nonce! Zero comparison I find any violence against women or children abhorrent. Beyond punishment by law. I can't support him. No judgement on people that do though. its just my opinion.ย Usually past history and repeated behaviour in domestic violence , maybe only because witnesses were present it got reported ? Who knows ? We can laugh and some be nonchalant that he's served his justice but if it were your daughter , mother , grandmother , aunt or cousin would people here commenting have the same lack of empathy ? Majority of buyers of his art will not know background or events as shown here by people more keen in the art world so sales will not faulter from this forum discussion. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by rogerwu99 on Jan 18, 2019 18:53:27 GMT 1, Wow, I had no idea! Well, if anyone wants the original email / invite, I'm happy to forward to them. Thanks for the discussion and enlightenment! 
Wow, I had no idea! Well, if anyone wants the original email / invite, I'm happy to forward to them. Thanks for the discussion and enlightenment! |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by moron on Jan 19, 2019 13:35:04 GMT 1, Would it be the same reaction if a woman artist punched her male partner in public?
Domestic violence particulary when a man abuses a woman partner physically or verbally, mentally in a controlling oppressive manner is a slippery downward slope, as when it is ignored by friends or family it can lead to a situation of normality for the abuser and also sadly for some victims. The police can be chauvinist and not get involved because it is domestic yet it is no different regarding criminality than if a man punched a stranger in the street.
I know nothing of Eine and his domestic situation.
Would it be the same reaction if a woman artist punched her male partner in public?
Domestic violence particulary when a man abuses a woman partner physically or verbally, mentally in a controlling oppressive manner is a slippery downward slope, as when it is ignored by friends or family it can lead to a situation of normality for the abuser and also sadly for some victims. The police can be chauvinist and not get involved because it is domestic yet it is no different regarding criminality than if a man punched a stranger in the street.
I know nothing of Eine and his domestic situation.
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by tab1 on Jan 19, 2019 18:05:08 GMT 1, Would it be the same reaction if a woman artist punched her male partner in public? Domestic violence particulary when a man abuses a woman partner physically or verbally, mentally in a controlling oppressive manner is a slippery downward slope, as when it is ignored by friends or family it can lead to a situation of normality for the abuser and also sadly for some victims. The police can be chauvinist and not get involved because it is domestic yet it is no different regarding criminality than if a man punched a stranger in the street. I know nothing of Eine and his domestic situation.
Think domestic violence laws have changed now and police pursue cases even if the victim chooses not to press charges , from learnings from the past where victims have been left in a fatal situation .
Women are also a high percentage of abusers but not discussed as much in the media , wrong either way .
Could go off on a tangent but here just discussing the artist in question.
Would it be the same reaction if a woman artist punched her male partner in public? Domestic violence particulary when a man abuses a woman partner physically or verbally, mentally in a controlling oppressive manner is a slippery downward slope, as when it is ignored by friends or family it can lead to a situation of normality for the abuser and also sadly for some victims. The police can be chauvinist and not get involved because it is domestic yet it is no different regarding criminality than if a man punched a stranger in the street. I know nothing of Eine and his domestic situation. Think domestic violence laws have changed now and police pursue cases even if the victim chooses not to press charges , from learnings from the past where victims have been left in a fatal situation . Women are also a high percentage of abusers but not discussed as much in the media , wrong either way . Could go off on a tangent but here just discussing the artist in question. |
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Ben Eine at Phillips, by tab1 on Jan 19, 2019 18:23:52 GMT 1, Would it be the same reaction if a woman artist punched her male partner in public? Domestic violence particulary when a man abuses a woman partner physically or verbally, mentally in a controlling oppressive manner is a slippery downward slope, as when it is ignored by friends or family it can lead to a situation of normality for the abuser and also sadly for some victims. The police can be chauvinist and not get involved because it is domestic yet it is no different regarding criminality than if a man punched a stranger in the street. I know nothing of Eine and his domestic situation.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence
Would it be the same reaction if a woman artist punched her male partner in public? Domestic violence particulary when a man abuses a woman partner physically or verbally, mentally in a controlling oppressive manner is a slippery downward slope, as when it is ignored by friends or family it can lead to a situation of normality for the abuser and also sadly for some victims. The police can be chauvinist and not get involved because it is domestic yet it is no different regarding criminality than if a man punched a stranger in the street. I know nothing of Eine and his domestic situation. |
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