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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by jimbofatz on Oct 2, 2019 15:08:03 GMT 1, Is there a price on the Massive Attack 🔥?
Is there a price on the Massive Attack 🔥?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2019 15:11:09 GMT 1, re - 'unlimited editions', the GDP welcome leaflet states 'prices start from £10 but availability will be limited'. Is there a difference between a limited edition and limited availability?
Technically everything is limited edition. It’s limited to however many you wind up making. “Limited availability” in this case probably means ‘we have no idea of the specific number we’ll make but we won’t necessarily make enough to satisfy massive demand’.
re - 'unlimited editions', the GDP welcome leaflet states 'prices start from £10 but availability will be limited'. Is there a difference between a limited edition and limited availability? Technically everything is limited edition. It’s limited to however many you wind up making. “Limited availability” in this case probably means ‘we have no idea of the specific number we’ll make but we won’t necessarily make enough to satisfy massive demand’. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Adam The Collector on Oct 2, 2019 15:17:57 GMT 1, re - 'unlimited editions', the GDP welcome leaflet states 'prices start from £10 but availability will be limited'. Is there a difference between a limited edition and limited availability? Technically everything is limited edition. It’s limited to however many you wind up making. “Limited availability” in this case probably means ‘we have no idea of the specific number we’ll make but we won’t necessarily make enough to satisfy massive demand’.
re - 'unlimited editions', the GDP welcome leaflet states 'prices start from £10 but availability will be limited'. Is there a difference between a limited edition and limited availability? Technically everything is limited edition. It’s limited to however many you wind up making. “Limited availability” in this case probably means ‘we have no idea of the specific number we’ll make but we won’t necessarily make enough to satisfy massive demand’. Limited edition would mean a work being numbered out of a clearly defined edition number. The argument that everything is limited does not apply when talking about fine works of art from an "official artist edition". |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2019 15:22:24 GMT 1, Technically everything is limited edition. It’s limited to however many you wind up making. “Limited availability” in this case probably means ‘we have no idea of the specific number we’ll make but we won’t necessarily make enough to satisfy massive demand’. Limited edition would mean a work being numbered out of a clearly defined edition number. The argument that everything is limited does not apply when talking about fine works of art from an "official artist edition".
Yes, hence “technically”. I understand what a limited edition artwork is, thanks.
“Limited availability” means ‘there won’t be enough for everyone’.
Technically everything is limited edition. It’s limited to however many you wind up making. “Limited availability” in this case probably means ‘we have no idea of the specific number we’ll make but we won’t necessarily make enough to satisfy massive demand’. Limited edition would mean a work being numbered out of a clearly defined edition number. The argument that everything is limited does not apply when talking about fine works of art from an "official artist edition". Yes, hence “technically”. I understand what a limited edition artwork is, thanks. “Limited availability” means ‘there won’t be enough for everyone’. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fast Eddie on Oct 2, 2019 15:30:11 GMT 1, I am kind of worried about the mismatch between the technology used on the site and what people with good programming skills can do to/with something like a shopify store.
Ideally you'd fix it by having identification requirements for buyers, like cell phone and/or email verification. That would be important, even if they allocate supply via lottery.
I am kind of worried about the mismatch between the technology used on the site and what people with good programming skills can do to/with something like a shopify store.
Ideally you'd fix it by having identification requirements for buyers, like cell phone and/or email verification. That would be important, even if they allocate supply via lottery.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by tonysantos2001 on Oct 2, 2019 15:37:14 GMT 1, It's basically spraying straight to the film/acetate as opposed to scanning or photographing an image. Pepperspraypress have done this with some of their recent releases. 
It's basically spraying straight to the film/acetate as opposed to scanning or photographing an image. Pepperspraypress have done this with some of their recent releases. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fuzzyduck121 on Oct 2, 2019 15:39:40 GMT 1, I am confident they know what they are doing, shopify is easy to bot, if I know this then everyone does. It is also an easy template for selling large volumes of of the same product like 20,000 posters or mugs which is probably all it will be used for.
Whilst the whole affair is brilliantly placed as being tongue in cheek which is part of the brilliance of brand Banksy the sales will be conducted in a curated way as the lottery for sale ends V2 was and on-going sales of smaller editions of works and OGs are and always have been. It is beyond reality in my view to expect an artist who sells directly to those with the money and power items with large price tags to suddenly swamp the market with smaller numbered editions, sculptures and originals as it will cause mass damage. This is a serious business with a very friendly customer face and really worthy intentions, but it is business none the less.
Anyone seriously concerned with the idea that a sneaker bot is going to snag someone a banksy flower thrower tiny edition triptyque or an edition of 5 sculpture is off their rocker frankly as it wont happen. The fallout for the market, ongoing primary sales and PC issues will be beyond what they can be bothered with. it is far too well organised and managed to allow that to happen. The perception is meant to be one of laid back attitude but the reality is the opposite. In addition more money can be raised from a lottery or raffle with almost no headache and a chance to "select" the winners more appropriately to at least minimise headaches.
I am confident they know what they are doing, shopify is easy to bot, if I know this then everyone does. It is also an easy template for selling large volumes of of the same product like 20,000 posters or mugs which is probably all it will be used for.
Whilst the whole affair is brilliantly placed as being tongue in cheek which is part of the brilliance of brand Banksy the sales will be conducted in a curated way as the lottery for sale ends V2 was and on-going sales of smaller editions of works and OGs are and always have been. It is beyond reality in my view to expect an artist who sells directly to those with the money and power items with large price tags to suddenly swamp the market with smaller numbered editions, sculptures and originals as it will cause mass damage. This is a serious business with a very friendly customer face and really worthy intentions, but it is business none the less.
Anyone seriously concerned with the idea that a sneaker bot is going to snag someone a banksy flower thrower tiny edition triptyque or an edition of 5 sculpture is off their rocker frankly as it wont happen. The fallout for the market, ongoing primary sales and PC issues will be beyond what they can be bothered with. it is far too well organised and managed to allow that to happen. The perception is meant to be one of laid back attitude but the reality is the opposite. In addition more money can be raised from a lottery or raffle with almost no headache and a chance to "select" the winners more appropriately to at least minimise headaches.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by soupy on Oct 2, 2019 15:42:01 GMT 1, that is why it would have been best to launch the site in tandem with the installation so that it was unannounced/unexpected.
that is why it would have been best to launch the site in tandem with the installation so that it was unannounced/unexpected.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Sundowner on Oct 2, 2019 15:43:56 GMT 1, Good to see lots of long-standing members coming out of the woodwork and commenting on this thread - I love the fact that any new Banksy release always manages to unite people and make this place more interesting for a few weeks..before the bitching and moaning begins based on who did or didn’t manage to score! 🤣
Good to see lots of long-standing members coming out of the woodwork and commenting on this thread - I love the fact that any new Banksy release always manages to unite people and make this place more interesting for a few weeks..before the bitching and moaning begins based on who did or didn’t manage to score! 🤣
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fuzzyduck121 on Oct 2, 2019 15:44:09 GMT 1, that is why it would have been best to launch the site in tandem with the installation so that it was unannounced/unexpected. I am not sure it would have removed confusion and order, probably only added to it. Everyone likes the idea that a quick shock drop would have been better for us forum members in the know but for PC and Banksy an orderly sale with enough IT support to deal with large sales of open editions plus a curated release of editions via lottery and direct sale is far easier to manage and track long term to preserve values and traceability via PC
that is why it would have been best to launch the site in tandem with the installation so that it was unannounced/unexpected. I am not sure it would have removed confusion and order, probably only added to it. Everyone likes the idea that a quick shock drop would have been better for us forum members in the know but for PC and Banksy an orderly sale with enough IT support to deal with large sales of open editions plus a curated release of editions via lottery and direct sale is far easier to manage and track long term to preserve values and traceability via PC
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Neate Michael on Oct 2, 2019 15:45:17 GMT 1, that is why it would have been best to launch the site in tandem with the installation so that it was unannounced/unexpected.
I would guess they would now launch it in the middle of the night? I certainly wouldn't press go now...
that is why it would have been best to launch the site in tandem with the installation so that it was unannounced/unexpected. Agreed. I would guess they would now launch it in the middle of the night? I certainly wouldn't press go now... |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Fuzzyduck121 on Oct 2, 2019 15:48:03 GMT 1, my guess is the only thing they will be pressing go on is a capture form for your email address or timed lottery registrations plus the odd random adding in of merchandise which will have enough stock to satisfy most demand.
would be great (for nostalgia) and equally painful to see a santas ghetto 2007 type affair with timed releases randomly and constantly updated homepages with clues, links and such like but I very much doubt it
maybe works from other artists will come into play here though as a big surprise element
my guess is the only thing they will be pressing go on is a capture form for your email address or timed lottery registrations plus the odd random adding in of merchandise which will have enough stock to satisfy most demand.
would be great (for nostalgia) and equally painful to see a santas ghetto 2007 type affair with timed releases randomly and constantly updated homepages with clues, links and such like but I very much doubt it
maybe works from other artists will come into play here though as a big surprise element
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Jonny Wednesday on Oct 2, 2019 15:49:03 GMT 1, So everyone staying at home f5'ing until their fingers bleed and not going to the Moniker Art fair?
So everyone staying at home f5'ing until their fingers bleed and not going to the Moniker Art fair?
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by withnail69 on Oct 2, 2019 15:50:51 GMT 1, ^^^^ worth a ban
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by kjg on Oct 2, 2019 15:51:04 GMT 1, This is Banksy. That means that there will be surprises. Lots of them. Surprises beyond our imagination.
This is Banksy. That means that there will be surprises. Lots of them. Surprises beyond our imagination.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by secretweasel on Oct 2, 2019 15:52:40 GMT 1, Will they all be real Banksy??
Will they all be real Banksy??
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by maxamaxa2 on Oct 2, 2019 15:57:12 GMT 1, I am kind of worried about the mismatch between the technology used on the site and what people with good programming skills can do to/with something like a shopify store. Ideally you'd fix it by having identification requirements for buyers, like cell phone and/or email verification. That would be important, even if they allocate supply via lottery.
However, it is very easy to avoid for them in a case like this where it is a one-time launch. Get a basic shopify install at shop.site.com then at launch you redirect to another shop platform at anothershop.site.com
All preparations of bots would simply go to waste. Use a simple "what is 5+2"-question to access and you halt it even more.
And also, give information of a 4h timeframe for when the release is due so that its not only ppl with monitors and bots that have a chance to know, cause 4 weeks of F5 is way too rich for most of us that have to work.
Would really enjoy one of those banksquait's, will be very interesting to see what happens to all of this!
I am kind of worried about the mismatch between the technology used on the site and what people with good programming skills can do to/with something like a shopify store. Ideally you'd fix it by having identification requirements for buyers, like cell phone and/or email verification. That would be important, even if they allocate supply via lottery. However, it is very easy to avoid for them in a case like this where it is a one-time launch. Get a basic shopify install at shop.site.com then at launch you redirect to another shop platform at anothershop.site.com All preparations of bots would simply go to waste. Use a simple "what is 5+2"-question to access and you halt it even more. And also, give information of a 4h timeframe for when the release is due so that its not only ppl with monitors and bots that have a chance to know, cause 4 weeks of F5 is way too rich for most of us that have to work. Would really enjoy one of those banksquait's, will be very interesting to see what happens to all of this! |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by jp226 on Oct 2, 2019 16:02:53 GMT 1, my guess is the only thing they will be pressing go on is a capture form for your email address or timed lottery registrations plus the odd random adding in of merchandise which will have enough stock to satisfy most demand. would be great (for nostalgia) and equally painful to see a santas ghetto 2007 type affair with timed releases randomly and constantly updated homepages with clues, links and such like but I very much doubt it maybe works from other artists will come into play here though as a big surprise element  
my guess is the only thing they will be pressing go on is a capture form for your email address or timed lottery registrations plus the odd random adding in of merchandise which will have enough stock to satisfy most demand. would be great (for nostalgia) and equally painful to see a santas ghetto 2007 type affair with timed releases randomly and constantly updated homepages with clues, links and such like but I very much doubt it maybe works from other artists will come into play here though as a big surprise element Now that you say this.... I wonder if the rat clocks are a hint at future random times? I doubt it, but hey... we can't rule out a little bit of nostalgic mayhem |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by The Italian One on Oct 2, 2019 16:06:09 GMT 1, that reminds me taking a day off for the opening of the online "walled off shop" ..... suddenly felling a complete moron.
that reminds me taking a day off for the opening of the online "walled off shop" ..... suddenly felling a complete moron.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by kjg on Oct 2, 2019 16:06:12 GMT 1, On a sidenote: it’s no coincidence that my giveaway ends Friday, 11th October 2019 at about 9pm CEST.
On a sidenote: it’s no coincidence that my giveaway ends Friday, 11th October 2019 at about 9pm CEST.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Not 4 The Thril on Oct 2, 2019 16:09:34 GMT 1, Do you think the signed spray cans are actually signed by him or machine produced?
All i want is a spray can, a clock or a basquiat print. You guys can fight over the rug and the gravestone.
Do you think the signed spray cans are actually signed by him or machine produced?
All i want is a spray can, a clock or a basquiat print. You guys can fight over the rug and the gravestone.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by irl1 on Oct 2, 2019 16:10:28 GMT 1, This is Banksy. That means that there will be surprises. Lots of them. Surprises beyond our imagination.
This is what i call a surprise
This is Banksy. That means that there will be surprises. Lots of them. Surprises beyond our imagination. This is what i call a surprise |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by sven on Oct 2, 2019 16:10:44 GMT 1, my guess is the only thing they will be pressing go on is a capture form for your email address or timed lottery registrations plus the odd random adding in of merchandise which will have enough stock to satisfy most demand. would be great (for nostalgia) and equally painful to see a santas ghetto 2007 type affair with timed releases randomly and constantly updated homepages with clues, links and such like but I very much doubt it maybe works from other artists will come into play here though as a big surprise element Now that you say this.... I wonder if the rat clocks are a hint at future random times? I doubt it, but hey... we can't rule out a little bit of nostalgic mayhem
my guess is the only thing they will be pressing go on is a capture form for your email address or timed lottery registrations plus the odd random adding in of merchandise which will have enough stock to satisfy most demand. would be great (for nostalgia) and equally painful to see a santas ghetto 2007 type affair with timed releases randomly and constantly updated homepages with clues, links and such like but I very much doubt it maybe works from other artists will come into play here though as a big surprise element Now that you say this.... I wonder if the rat clocks are a hint at future random times? I doubt it, but hey... we can't rule out a little bit of nostalgic mayhem Haha i was thinking this today too. The one sprayed on the electricity box outside the window has 2.18 or so on it. Not very clear... |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by kjg on Oct 2, 2019 16:11:18 GMT 1, Do you think the signed spray cans are actually signed by him or machine produced? All i want is a spray can, a clock or a basquiat print. You guys can fight over the rug and the gravestone.
I want one of those cans too! Even if they are machine signed, I don’t care :-)
Do you think the signed spray cans are actually signed by him or machine produced? All i want is a spray can, a clock or a basquiat print. You guys can fight over the rug and the gravestone. I want one of those cans too! Even if they are machine signed, I don’t care :-) |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by jimbofatz on Oct 2, 2019 16:16:01 GMT 1, The BANKSY PAINT
The BANKSY PAINT |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by withnail69 on Oct 2, 2019 16:16:45 GMT 1, that is why it would have been best to launch the site in tandem with the installation so that it was unannounced/unexpected.
that is why it would have been best to launch the site in tandem with the installation so that it was unannounced/unexpected. or a quiz/ad campaign to find the site like google |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by withnail69 on Oct 2, 2019 16:17:22 GMT 1, Will they all be real Banksy??
Will they all be real Banksy?? Someone is already working to make copies.. esp of clocks etc as I type this I'm sure |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by The Italian One on Oct 2, 2019 16:18:47 GMT 1, Just PM Dappy he has the pdf 
Just PM Dappy he has the pdf can I take a look at the pdf |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2019 16:21:00 GMT 1, Good to see lots of long-standing members coming out of the woodwork and commenting on this thread. Any new Banksy release always manages to unite people....before the bitching and moaning begins based on who did or didn’t score! 🤣
Good to see lots of long-standing members coming out of the woodwork and commenting on this thread. Any new Banksy release always manages to unite people....before the bitching and moaning begins based on who did or didn’t score! 🤣 Come off it, they come out their worm infested woodwork homes for money. You give them more credit then they deserve. |
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Product™, by ed on Oct 2, 2019 16:23:35 GMT 1, Just PM Dappy he has the pdf can I take a look at the pdf
You just gotta send a private message to dappy with your email and you'll get a link...seems pretty open to sending it just better to restrict it a bit
Just PM Dappy he has the pdf can I take a look at the pdf You just gotta send a private message to dappy with your email and you'll get a link...seems pretty open to sending it just better to restrict it a bit |
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