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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Hairbland on Apr 18, 2020 11:22:08 GMT 1, I agree with you geezermate, so at the end there is a real difference between the first edition limited of 1000 and this second open edition
Like convincing yourself you’ve not gotten fat. Suck in that stomach!
I agree with you geezermate, so at the end there is a real difference between the first edition limited of 1000 and this second open edition Like convincing yourself you’ve not gotten fat. Suck in that stomach! |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Hairbland on Apr 18, 2020 11:24:33 GMT 1, Just print your own posters if it's only about the image. You're missing the point of "collecting" ...and you're just missing the point.
Is it “collecting” or “speculating”?
Just print your own posters if it's only about the image. You're missing the point of "collecting" ...and you're just missing the point. Is it “collecting” or “speculating”? |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by juni0209 on Apr 18, 2020 11:30:41 GMT 1, It's a great thing to give an opportunity to collectors to own an affordable Nara but no matter how you look at it it's bad practice the way they did it..forget about flipping or secondary market profits blah blah..you announced a limited run of 1000 then you release the same image as open edition and somehow you actually include the first run as part of the open edition..is that not deceiving? And yes I bought one on the secondary market but I would have gladly bought one now at 200usd as open edition if I knew it's going to happen..that's my point..some of you don't really get it.. imagine Baltic Center needs the money and it does a second open run for Cosmic Girl which sells now for about 20k at auction and will announce, hey actually this is now an open edition..it's the same thing guys..just do it as an open edition from the beginning..no flipping,no profiteering ,no secondary market.. simple..or if you wanna differentiate the runs juts add an in plate signature for the limited run or whatever..but this iss**tE as a matter of principle. My point exactly. And just think about it, who has been hit hardest by this? The flippers? You're joking right? Ok now they won't make money on these but they're not going to be out of pocket. They just need to sit on them a little while and they'll get their money back. It's the fans and collectors who've been hit the hardest spending well over the odds acquiring one from the secondary market.
would be fair points if it was limited but it wasn't
It's a great thing to give an opportunity to collectors to own an affordable Nara but no matter how you look at it it's bad practice the way they did it..forget about flipping or secondary market profits blah blah..you announced a limited run of 1000 then you release the same image as open edition and somehow you actually include the first run as part of the open edition..is that not deceiving? And yes I bought one on the secondary market but I would have gladly bought one now at 200usd as open edition if I knew it's going to happen..that's my point..some of you don't really get it.. imagine Baltic Center needs the money and it does a second open run for Cosmic Girl which sells now for about 20k at auction and will announce, hey actually this is now an open edition..it's the same thing guys..just do it as an open edition from the beginning..no flipping,no profiteering ,no secondary market.. simple..or if you wanna differentiate the runs juts add an in plate signature for the limited run or whatever..but this iss**tE as a matter of principle. My point exactly. And just think about it, who has been hit hardest by this? The flippers? You're joking right? Ok now they won't make money on these but they're not going to be out of pocket. They just need to sit on them a little while and they'll get their money back. It's the fans and collectors who've been hit the hardest spending well over the odds acquiring one from the secondary market. would be fair points if it was limited but it wasn't |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by crisol on Apr 18, 2020 11:32:28 GMT 1, from the beginning it was always an open edition .. what don't you understand about this? 
from the beginning it was always an open edition .. what don't you understand about this?
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by cest on Apr 18, 2020 11:34:39 GMT 1, Don't be smart and pretend you knew better and wasn't gutted when you missed out! 
I was, but i didnt spend a grand chasing an unsigned un numbered ed
Don't be smart and pretend you knew better and wasn't gutted when you missed out! I was, but i didnt spend a grand chasing an unsigned un numbered ed |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Hairbland on Apr 18, 2020 11:35:24 GMT 1, from the beginning it was always an open edition .. what don't you understand about this?
Agreed. Those with lu$t in their eyes are blinded to facts.
from the beginning it was always an open edition .. what don't you understand about this? Agreed. Those with lu$t in their eyes are blinded to facts. |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Catman 74 on Apr 18, 2020 11:44:42 GMT 1, Were the Baltic ones open edition as well?
Were the Baltic ones open edition as well?
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by charliem on Apr 18, 2020 11:51:23 GMT 1, Anyone have a screenshot of the original Ebay listing?
Interested in the about this item section not the description.
It’s clearly a open addition but think it was listed in the originality’s as limited edition.
Just curious thanks
Anyone have a screenshot of the original Ebay listing?
Interested in the about this item section not the description.
It’s clearly a open addition but think it was listed in the originality’s as limited edition.
Just curious thanks
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Winks on Apr 18, 2020 11:52:41 GMT 1, Come on York Gallery, this is how you do it
Come on York Gallery, this is how you do it
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Catman 74 on Apr 18, 2020 12:04:48 GMT 1, It's ok guys.. there'll always be winners and losers..but in this case there are more winners which is a good thing..
It's ok guys.. there'll always be winners and losers..but in this case there are more winners which is a good thing..
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Tax and Shipping on Apr 18, 2020 12:06:46 GMT 1, Anyone have a screenshot of the original Ebay listing? Interested in the about this item section not the description. It’s clearly a open addition but think it was listed in the originality’s as limited edition. Just curious thanks
This was 100% listed as an edition of 1000, then updated to “open edition of 1000”. I don’t have a screengrab but Sotheby’s aren’t stupid and wouldn’t just take a sellers word for it so I suspect whoever sold through there did.
These will still hold an appeal but it really sucks for the genuine fans who picked up on the secondary market who are the only ones who have really been burned here.
Anyone have a screenshot of the original Ebay listing? Interested in the about this item section not the description. It’s clearly a open addition but think it was listed in the originality’s as limited edition. Just curious thanks This was 100% listed as an edition of 1000, then updated to “open edition of 1000”. I don’t have a screengrab but Sotheby’s aren’t stupid and wouldn’t just take a sellers word for it so I suspect whoever sold through there did. These will still hold an appeal but it really sucks for the genuine fans who picked up on the secondary market who are the only ones who have really been burned here. |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Hairbland on Apr 18, 2020 12:20:02 GMT 1, It's ok guys.. there'll always be winners and losers..but in this case there are more winners which is a good thing..
Don’t you mean whiners and losers?
It's ok guys.. there'll always be winners and losers..but in this case there are more winners which is a good thing.. Don’t you mean whiners and losers? |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by cnrdvln on Apr 18, 2020 12:26:41 GMT 1, so this run is on heavier weighted paper, a print not a poster this time? amazing can't wait to receive mine
so this run is on heavier weighted paper, a print not a poster this time? amazing can't wait to receive mine
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by irl1 on Apr 18, 2020 12:26:42 GMT 1, Anyone have a screenshot of the original Ebay listing? Interested in the about this item section not the description. It’s clearly a open addition but think it was listed in the originality’s as limited edition. Just curious thanks This was 100% listed as an edition of 1000, then updated to “open edition of 1000”. I don’t have a screengrab but Sotheby’s aren’t stupid and wouldn’t just take a sellers word for it so I suspect whoever sold through there did. These will still hold an appeal but it really sucks for the genuine fans who picked up on the secondary market who are the only ones who have really been burned here.
Anyone have a screenshot of the original Ebay listing? Interested in the about this item section not the description. It’s clearly a open addition but think it was listed in the originality’s as limited edition. Just curious thanks This was 100% listed as an edition of 1000, then updated to “open edition of 1000”. I don’t have a screengrab but Sotheby’s aren’t stupid and wouldn’t just take a sellers word for it so I suspect whoever sold through there did. These will still hold an appeal but it really sucks for the genuine fans who picked up on the secondary market who are the only ones who have really been burned here. They always hinted there might be more. As the first lot sold so quick it was nearly always on the cards |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by irl1 on Apr 18, 2020 12:30:29 GMT 1, These sound really really nice. I hope they come out well. Congrats to everyone who picked one up. From the person who worked on this project. 
These sound really really nice. I hope they come out well. Congrats to everyone who picked one up. From the person who worked on this project. |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by irl1 on Apr 18, 2020 12:34:17 GMT 1, Open edition clarified. 1000 bundles limited because of the exclusive stickers. While I don't foresee more prints being produced in the short term, the decision rests with Nara-san. 
Open edition clarified. 1000 bundles limited because of the exclusive stickers. While I don't foresee more prints being produced in the short term, the decision rests with Nara-san. |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by irl1 on Apr 18, 2020 12:42:15 GMT 1, im still waiting to hear!
Then put your full name and address in the comment box.
I checked out this way and then emailed them the Ref number to change the shipping country.
At least this way you have one booked and paid. 
The worst that can happen is you get a refund
im still waiting to hear! You can check out with any address but you must put in a U.S postcode. Then put your full name and address in the comment box. I checked out this way and then emailed them the Ref number to change the shipping country. At least this way you have one booked and paid. The worst that can happen is you get a refund |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by nobokov on Apr 18, 2020 13:09:33 GMT 1, You would think that this release is due to covid19 and perhaps would not have been released again if things were normal
You would think that this release is due to covid19 and perhaps would not have been released again if things were normal
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by soupy on Apr 18, 2020 13:46:16 GMT 1, 1st edition owners have their pitchforks out on DC's IG.  
1st edition owners have their pitchforks out on DC's IG. |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Runit on Apr 18, 2020 14:17:11 GMT 1, What a score. A better quality print without any text. Should look nice in a plain wooden frame with a thin face and deep rebate.
Any idea on UK shipping cost?
What a score. A better quality print without any text. Should look nice in a plain wooden frame with a thin face and deep rebate.
Any idea on UK shipping cost?
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by jimmyjam on Apr 18, 2020 14:25:25 GMT 1, Surprising to see the same people who sold these, charity prints, on eBay for over 1k still complaining about this print.
Surprising to see the same people who sold these, charity prints, on eBay for over 1k still complaining about this print.
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 14:33:45 GMT 1, Surprising to see the same people who sold these, charity prints, on eBay for over 1k still complaining about this print.
I’m guessing a lot of eBay flippers who listed this as a limited edition will be getting requests for refunds right now from buyers? I guess you could claim the item received wasn’t as listed? I tend to avoid eBay like the plague but pretty sure they always come down on the side of the buyer in any disputes?
Surprising to see the same people who sold these, charity prints, on eBay for over 1k still complaining about this print. I’m guessing a lot of eBay flippers who listed this as a limited edition will be getting requests for refunds right now from buyers? I guess you could claim the item received wasn’t as listed? I tend to avoid eBay like the plague but pretty sure they always come down on the side of the buyer in any disputes? |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by charliem on Apr 18, 2020 14:36:16 GMT 1, Surprising to see the same people who sold these, charity prints, on eBay for over 1k still complaining about this print. I’m guessing a lot of eBay flippers who listed this as a limited edition will be getting requests for refunds right now from buyers? I guess you could claim the item received wasn’t as listed? I tend to avoid eBay like the plague but pretty sure they always come down on the side of the buyer in any disputes?
Could be said that it is still limited because it came with the sticker pack.
Surprising to see the same people who sold these, charity prints, on eBay for over 1k still complaining about this print. I’m guessing a lot of eBay flippers who listed this as a limited edition will be getting requests for refunds right now from buyers? I guess you could claim the item received wasn’t as listed? I tend to avoid eBay like the plague but pretty sure they always come down on the side of the buyer in any disputes? Could be said that it is still limited because it came with the sticker pack. |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by bjoern on Apr 18, 2020 14:42:56 GMT 1, Surprising to see the same people who sold these, charity prints, on eBay for over 1k still complaining about this print. I’m guessing a lot of eBay flippers who listed this as a limited edition will be getting requests for refunds right now from buyers? I guess you could claim the item received wasn’t as listed? I tend to avoid eBay like the plague but pretty sure they always come down on the side of the buyer in any disputes?
eBay Flippers made their cut and wont need to refund people.
The only ones suffering from this move are the real fans who bought these prints on the secondary for 700-1000€ - there a lots of them.
Surprising to see the same people who sold these, charity prints, on eBay for over 1k still complaining about this print. I’m guessing a lot of eBay flippers who listed this as a limited edition will be getting requests for refunds right now from buyers? I guess you could claim the item received wasn’t as listed? I tend to avoid eBay like the plague but pretty sure they always come down on the side of the buyer in any disputes? eBay Flippers made their cut and wont need to refund people. The only ones suffering from this move are the real fans who bought these prints on the secondary for 700-1000€ - there a lots of them. |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 14:56:15 GMT 1, I’m guessing a lot of eBay flippers who listed this as a limited edition will be getting requests for refunds right now from buyers? I guess you could claim the item received wasn’t as listed? I tend to avoid eBay like the plague but pretty sure they always come down on the side of the buyer in any disputes? eBay Flippers made their cut and wont need to refund people. The only ones suffering from this move are the real fans who bought these prints on the secondary for 700-1000€ - there a lots of them.
I don’t have a horse in this race but say I bought a copy on eBay which was listed by the seller as a limited edition of 1000. Could I not then start to process a refund saying that in fact the item was mis-sold as this has been confirmed as an ‘open’ edition?
Doesn’t affect me either way but I’m wondering if some of the people freaking out on IG are kicking off because they’ve suddenly had refund requests for the £5k worth of posters they just laughed about flipping?
I’m guessing a lot of eBay flippers who listed this as a limited edition will be getting requests for refunds right now from buyers? I guess you could claim the item received wasn’t as listed? I tend to avoid eBay like the plague but pretty sure they always come down on the side of the buyer in any disputes? eBay Flippers made their cut and wont need to refund people. The only ones suffering from this move are the real fans who bought these prints on the secondary for 700-1000€ - there a lots of them. I don’t have a horse in this race but say I bought a copy on eBay which was listed by the seller as a limited edition of 1000. Could I not then start to process a refund saying that in fact the item was mis-sold as this has been confirmed as an ‘open’ edition? Doesn’t affect me either way but I’m wondering if some of the people freaking out on IG are kicking off because they’ve suddenly had refund requests for the £5k worth of posters they just laughed about flipping? |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Tax and Shipping on Apr 18, 2020 15:00:42 GMT 1, eBay Flippers made their cut and wont need to refund people. The only ones suffering from this move are the real fans who bought these prints on the secondary for 700-1000€ - there a lots of them. I don’t have a horse in this race but say I bought a copy on eBay which was listed by the seller as a limited edition of 1000. Could I not then start to process a refund saying that in fact the item was mis-sold as this has been confirmed as an ‘open’ edition? Doesn’t affect me either way but I’m wondering if some of the people freaking out on IG are kicking off because they’ve suddenly had refund requests for the £5k worth of posters they just laughed about flipping?
This creates an interesting dynamic, as eBay was the source of the ambiguity in the first place! Wonder what their position would be...
eBay Flippers made their cut and wont need to refund people. The only ones suffering from this move are the real fans who bought these prints on the secondary for 700-1000€ - there a lots of them. I don’t have a horse in this race but say I bought a copy on eBay which was listed by the seller as a limited edition of 1000. Could I not then start to process a refund saying that in fact the item was mis-sold as this has been confirmed as an ‘open’ edition? Doesn’t affect me either way but I’m wondering if some of the people freaking out on IG are kicking off because they’ve suddenly had refund requests for the £5k worth of posters they just laughed about flipping? This creates an interesting dynamic, as eBay was the source of the ambiguity in the first place! Wonder what their position would be... |
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Winter on Apr 18, 2020 15:04:11 GMT 1, There is a physical difference between the first 1000 and the latest batch which creates a first and second edition. Interesting to see they did change them rather than just re running them. It makes no difference to me but I do think it changes things. A bit.
There is a physical difference between the first 1000 and the latest batch which creates a first and second edition. Interesting to see they did change them rather than just re running them. It makes no difference to me but I do think it changes things. A bit.
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by soupy on Apr 18, 2020 15:20:32 GMT 1, i don't think you would have much recourse for an ebay refund if the seller description was detailed and complete. it wasn't an intentional misrepresentation at the time because it was an edition of 1K that sold out. might be an uphill battle for the buyer if the seller wants to dispute and provides the complete history of the release (especially with their being differences in the paper).
i don't think you would have much recourse for an ebay refund if the seller description was detailed and complete. it wasn't an intentional misrepresentation at the time because it was an edition of 1K that sold out. might be an uphill battle for the buyer if the seller wants to dispute and provides the complete history of the release (especially with their being differences in the paper).
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by LJCal on Apr 18, 2020 15:29:54 GMT 1, Well this is the game we play. I bought secondary so not exactly over the moon but you can’t win them all.
Well this is the game we play. I bought secondary so not exactly over the moon but you can’t win them all.
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Yoshitomo Nara 🇯🇵 New Print Release • Contemporary Art , by Catman 74 on Apr 18, 2020 15:33:12 GMT 1, It's not flippers fault..it's us who bought on secondary..so let's stop blaming THE FLIPPERS..just read through the posts here..
The encouragement to sell on secondary came from collectors like myself who missed out but we really wanted one.. sounds familiar " if anyone wants to sell I can pay double"..there were few posts like this in here.
It's not flippers fault..it's us who bought on secondary..so let's stop blaming THE FLIPPERS..just read through the posts here..
The encouragement to sell on secondary came from collectors like myself who missed out but we really wanted one.. sounds familiar " if anyone wants to sell I can pay double"..there were few posts like this in here.
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