mitch20
New Member
🗨️ 15
👍🏻 4
August 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by mitch20 on Sept 28, 2020 16:26:47 GMT 1, Yes just to add to this, I also did. And yes the wait was excruciating.
Yes just to add to this, I also did. And yes the wait was excruciating.
|
|
Zippy
Junior Member
🗨️ 6,815
👍🏻 2,639
April 2006
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Zippy on Sept 28, 2020 16:27:58 GMT 1, Huge congrats on getting one.
Speak with your Insurance company first to see the difference in premium between £175, 200 and 250 etc.
If it was stolen or damaged they might only pay out to the replacement value so no point in over paying on the premium.
If Artdelight is currently selling them online at £195,000 (and can back that up with sales invoices etc etc) then you should certainly insure higher in this strange climate.
Huge congrats on getting one.
Speak with your Insurance company first to see the difference in premium between £175, 200 and 250 etc.
If it was stolen or damaged they might only pay out to the replacement value so no point in over paying on the premium.
If Artdelight is currently selling them online at £195,000 (and can back that up with sales invoices etc etc) then you should certainly insure higher in this strange climate.
|
|
avant
New Member
🗨️ 73
👍🏻 137
May 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by avant on Sept 28, 2020 16:47:20 GMT 1, Huge congrats on getting one. Speak with your Insurance company first to see the difference in premium between £175, 200 and 250 etc. If it was stolen or damaged they might only pay out to the replacement value so no point in over paying on the premium. If Artdelight is currently selling them online at £195,000 (and can back that up with sales invoices etc etc) then you should certainly insure higher in this strange climate.
For the sake of £100 I just went for 250. It lasts a year anyway and I’m not looking to sell, just need to know about framing now!
Huge congrats on getting one. Speak with your Insurance company first to see the difference in premium between £175, 200 and 250 etc. If it was stolen or damaged they might only pay out to the replacement value so no point in over paying on the premium. If Artdelight is currently selling them online at £195,000 (and can back that up with sales invoices etc etc) then you should certainly insure higher in this strange climate. For the sake of £100 I just went for 250. It lasts a year anyway and I’m not looking to sell, just need to know about framing now! |
|
Deleted
🗨️ 0
👍🏻
January 1970
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 16:54:28 GMT 1, Huge congrats on getting one. Speak with your Insurance company first to see the difference in premium between £175, 200 and 250 etc. If it was stolen or damaged they might only pay out to the replacement value so no point in over paying on the premium. If Artdelight is currently selling them online at £195,000 (and can back that up with sales invoices etc etc) then you should certainly insure higher in this strange climate. For the sake of £100 I just went for 250. It lasts a year anyway and I’m not looking to sell, just need to know about framing now!
Framing wise, don't go cheap.
If you are near London use Darbyshires or others of that ilk
Please don't go to someone without recommendations
As an example some local to me framers who are part of the framers guild etc etc use parcel tape on the back to hold the print to the mount, think of what that would do to the value. However on a very slight positive it's unlikely the artwork will slip out the mount
Congrats on the print, fantastic
Huge congrats on getting one. Speak with your Insurance company first to see the difference in premium between £175, 200 and 250 etc. If it was stolen or damaged they might only pay out to the replacement value so no point in over paying on the premium. If Artdelight is currently selling them online at £195,000 (and can back that up with sales invoices etc etc) then you should certainly insure higher in this strange climate. For the sake of £100 I just went for 250. It lasts a year anyway and I’m not looking to sell, just need to know about framing now! Framing wise, don't go cheap. If you are near London use Darbyshires or others of that ilk Please don't go to someone without recommendations As an example some local to me framers who are part of the framers guild etc etc use parcel tape on the back to hold the print to the mount, think of what that would do to the value. However on a very slight positive it's unlikely the artwork will slip out the mount Congrats on the print, fantastic |
|
mitch20
New Member
🗨️ 15
👍🏻 4
August 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by mitch20 on Sept 28, 2020 16:58:46 GMT 1, Has anyone on here used Darbyshires for framing and can tell me what type they went with?
I’ve trawled back through a few pages and the only other one I can see mentioned is Graham Bignell. Any other London framers that someone has first hand experience with?
Any advice much appreciated.
Has anyone on here used Darbyshires for framing and can tell me what type they went with?
I’ve trawled back through a few pages and the only other one I can see mentioned is Graham Bignell. Any other London framers that someone has first hand experience with?
Any advice much appreciated.
|
|
Zippy
Junior Member
🗨️ 6,815
👍🏻 2,639
April 2006
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Zippy on Sept 28, 2020 16:59:06 GMT 1, Hi Bren, he said he is in the North of England on his opening post.
Avant, there are many members on here who can help / give advice on framers in the North. Take advice and get it framed up. And then enjoy it on your walls for many years!!
Hi Bren, he said he is in the North of England on his opening post.
Avant, there are many members on here who can help / give advice on framers in the North. Take advice and get it framed up. And then enjoy it on your walls for many years!!
|
|
|
|
Zippy
Junior Member
🗨️ 6,815
👍🏻 2,639
April 2006
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Zippy on Sept 28, 2020 17:00:42 GMT 1, Has anyone on here used Darbyshires for framing and can tell me what type they went with? I’ve trawled back through a few pages and the only other one I can see mentioned is Graham Bignell. Any other London framers that someone has first hand experience with? Any advice much appreciated.
Hi Mitch,
For something of this value, I would use Pauli Frames in London. You get excellent framing with archival materials etc..
Many use Darbyshires and I am sure they will also offer the right conservation options but you will be paying a high price for it!
Good luck and enjoy your special piece.
Has anyone on here used Darbyshires for framing and can tell me what type they went with? I’ve trawled back through a few pages and the only other one I can see mentioned is Graham Bignell. Any other London framers that someone has first hand experience with? Any advice much appreciated. Hi Mitch, For something of this value, I would use Pauli Frames in London. You get excellent framing with archival materials etc.. Many use Darbyshires and I am sure they will also offer the right conservation options but you will be paying a high price for it! Good luck and enjoy your special piece. |
|
FЯ
Full Member
🗨️ 8,264
👍🏻 9,252
May 2013
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by FЯ on Sept 28, 2020 17:01:41 GMT 1, Has anyone on here used Darbyshires for framing and can tell me what type they went with? I’ve trawled back through a few pages and the only other one I can see mentioned is Graham Bignell. Any other London framers that someone has first hand experience with? Any advice much appreciated.
graham bignell is a paper restorer.
look at pfg242 on instagram, he has framed every banksy image and few canvas’
Has anyone on here used Darbyshires for framing and can tell me what type they went with? I’ve trawled back through a few pages and the only other one I can see mentioned is Graham Bignell. Any other London framers that someone has first hand experience with? Any advice much appreciated. graham bignell is a paper restorer. look at pfg242 on instagram, he has framed every banksy image and few canvas’ |
|
Deleted
🗨️ 0
👍🏻
January 1970
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 17:03:21 GMT 1, Hi Bren, he said he is in the North of England on his opening post. Avant, there are many members on here who can help / give advice on framers in the North. Take advice and get it framed up. And then enjoy it on your walls for many years!!
Last 100 post reader am I so missed the opening, oops
Hope all is well Mr Zippy
Hi Bren, he said he is in the North of England on his opening post. Avant, there are many members on here who can help / give advice on framers in the North. Take advice and get it framed up. And then enjoy it on your walls for many years!! Last 100 post reader am I so missed the opening, oops Hope all is well Mr Zippy |
|
JFCC
New Member
🗨️ 390
👍🏻 394
May 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by JFCC on Sept 28, 2020 17:04:56 GMT 1, Darbyshire are without doubt the best in the business. For conservation use Foley Schallkx Conservation which Darbyshire will set up for you.
Darbyshire are without doubt the best in the business. For conservation use Foley Schallkx Conservation which Darbyshire will set up for you.
|
|
lv90210
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,030
👍🏻 1,926
January 2018
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by lv90210 on Sept 28, 2020 18:18:19 GMT 1, Darbyshires / Pauli for anything expensive.
Mr Frameman / PFG more the average stuff you find on here.
Darbyshires / Pauli for anything expensive.
Mr Frameman / PFG more the average stuff you find on here.
|
|
chefd
New Member
🗨️ 294
👍🏻 517
March 2017
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by chefd on Sept 28, 2020 18:31:01 GMT 1, Darbyshires / Pauli for anything expensive. Mr Frameman / PFG more the average stuff you find on here.
Define expensive?
Darbyshires / Pauli for anything expensive. Mr Frameman / PFG more the average stuff you find on here. Define expensive? |
|
lv90210
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,030
👍🏻 1,926
January 2018
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by lv90210 on Sept 28, 2020 18:46:50 GMT 1, Darbyshires / Pauli for anything expensive. Mr Frameman / PFG more the average stuff you find on here. Define expensive?
Banksy plus.
Darbyshires / Pauli for anything expensive. Mr Frameman / PFG more the average stuff you find on here. Define expensive? Banksy plus. |
|
morgan
New Member
🗨️ 528
👍🏻 230
July 2013
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by morgan on Sept 28, 2020 18:55:42 GMT 1, Congrats... seems to have taken a while to get to you! The wait must have damn near killed you! I cannot describe how excruciating it was. Anxiety through the roof.
I think I could have handled the anxiety 
Congrats... seems to have taken a while to get to you! The wait must have damn near killed you! I cannot describe how excruciating it was. Anxiety through the roof. I think I could have handled the anxiety |
|
|
|
Deleted
🗨️ 0
👍🏻
January 1970
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 18:56:32 GMT 1, Can’t believe I’m saying this but mine got delivered today, I’m absolutely overwhelmed. Can anyone recommend any framers in the North of England. Also, can they advise how it should be framed. Thanks
Can’t believe I’m saying this but mine got delivered today, I’m absolutely overwhelmed. Can anyone recommend any framers in the North of England. Also, can they advise how it should be framed. Thanks Mark at PFG |
|
Deleted
🗨️ 0
👍🏻
January 1970
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 18:57:23 GMT 1, Can’t believe I’m saying this but mine got delivered today, I’m absolutely overwhelmed. Can anyone recommend any framers in the North of England. Also, can they advise how it should be framed. Thanks
Can’t believe I’m saying this but mine got delivered today, I’m absolutely overwhelmed. Can anyone recommend any framers in the North of England. Also, can they advise how it should be framed. Thanks 3mm Optimax Acrylic for sure. Will cost money, but well worth it. |
|
|
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by 1st Design on Sept 28, 2020 19:04:19 GMT 1, Can’t believe I’m saying this but mine got delivered today, I’m absolutely overwhelmed. Can anyone recommend any framers in the North of England. Also, can they advise how it should be framed. Thanks 3mm Optimax Acrylic for sure. Will cost money, but well worth it.
Go for this👍
tru-vue.com/solution/optium-museum-acrylic/
Can’t believe I’m saying this but mine got delivered today, I’m absolutely overwhelmed. Can anyone recommend any framers in the North of England. Also, can they advise how it should be framed. Thanks 3mm Optimax Acrylic for sure. Will cost money, but well worth it. Go for this👍 tru-vue.com/solution/optium-museum-acrylic/ |
|
Deleted
🗨️ 0
👍🏻
January 1970
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 19:26:59 GMT 1, This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good.
This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good. |
|
avant
New Member
🗨️ 73
👍🏻 137
May 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by avant on Sept 28, 2020 19:29:42 GMT 1, This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good.
Yeah that’s the thing, just incredibly far to drive. 8 hour round trip etc so was really hoping there was someone up here, I’m sure there is it’s just finding the right one!
This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good. Yeah that’s the thing, just incredibly far to drive. 8 hour round trip etc so was really hoping there was someone up here, I’m sure there is it’s just finding the right one! |
|
mitch20
New Member
🗨️ 15
👍🏻 4
August 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by mitch20 on Sept 28, 2020 19:44:18 GMT 1, This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good.
Have you posted a picture of yours? If not, what type of frame did you go for? Was it similar to the GDP picture?
Thank you to everyone else for all the recommendations.
This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good. Have you posted a picture of yours? If not, what type of frame did you go for? Was it similar to the GDP picture? Thank you to everyone else for all the recommendations. |
|
chefd
New Member
🗨️ 294
👍🏻 517
March 2017
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by chefd on Sept 28, 2020 19:52:21 GMT 1, This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good. Yeah that’s the thing, just incredibly far to drive. 8 hour round trip etc so was really hoping there was someone up here, I’m sure there is it’s just finding the right one!
This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good. Yeah that’s the thing, just incredibly far to drive. 8 hour round trip etc so was really hoping there was someone up here, I’m sure there is it’s just finding the right one! Just have it sent with Flight Logistics to whichever framer you are most confident in. |
|
Deleted
🗨️ 0
👍🏻
January 1970
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 20:19:09 GMT 1, Wherever in the world you are and you need top quality, trustworthy framing, contact all of the museums in your area and ask who does their framing.
You're welcome.
That's outside the box thinking, like it
Wherever in the world you are and you need top quality, trustworthy framing, contact all of the museums in your area and ask who does their framing.
You're welcome.
That's outside the box thinking, like it |
|
|
|
tab1
Full Member
🗨️ 8,519
👍🏻 3,679
September 2011
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by tab1 on Sept 28, 2020 20:28:39 GMT 1, Wherever in the world you are and you need top quality, trustworthy framing, contact all of the museums in your area and ask who does their framing.
You're welcome.
Most of their collections would not have been touched for the last 50 years or more , might get an odd look👀😑
Wherever in the world you are and you need top quality, trustworthy framing, contact all of the museums in your area and ask who does their framing.
You're welcome.
Most of their collections would not have been touched for the last 50 years or more , might get an odd look👀😑 |
|
|
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by 1st Design on Sept 28, 2020 20:31:35 GMT 1, This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good. Have you posted a picture of yours? If not, what type of frame did you go for? Was it similar to the GDP picture? Thank you to everyone else for all the recommendations.
I know it was no me you ask, but I have chose Nordic oak for the frame with olie/was zurface. It is High floating with white background.. I have no pictures because the framing is in progres at the moment😊
This is similar to what I used on my Banksquiat. Deffo the best. Mark at PFG242 did a blinding job on mine. Couldn't be happier. I know he''s Romford Essex, so maybe too far away, but he's good. Have you posted a picture of yours? If not, what type of frame did you go for? Was it similar to the GDP picture? Thank you to everyone else for all the recommendations. I know it was no me you ask, but I have chose Nordic oak for the frame with olie/was zurface. It is High floating with white background.. I have no pictures because the framing is in progres at the moment😊 |
|
|
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by 1st Design on Sept 28, 2020 20:42:03 GMT 1,
this is the same corner’s of the frame as mine, I have just choose oak in oak. I Think it is a great detail to theframework..
this is the same corner’s of the frame as mine, I have just choose oak in oak. I Think it is a great detail to theframework.. |
|
avant
New Member
🗨️ 73
👍🏻 137
May 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by avant on Sept 28, 2020 20:47:13 GMT 1, Wherever in the world you are and you need top quality, trustworthy framing, contact all of the museums in your area and ask who does their framing.
You're welcome.
300IQ
Wherever in the world you are and you need top quality, trustworthy framing, contact all of the museums in your area and ask who does their framing.
You're welcome.
300IQ |
|
acaipride
New Member
🗨️ 906
👍🏻 447
April 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by acaipride on Sept 28, 2020 21:08:38 GMT 1, Museum would tell you to stay away from any wood if long term conservation or set it and forget it framing is desired.. even if it is cured with shellac or laminated 3m 850 tape..wood fumes will happen regardless of curing.
Use metal or thick acrylic..times have changed make sure your famous framer is up to date
Museum would tell you to stay away from any wood if long term conservation or set it and forget it framing is desired.. even if it is cured with shellac or laminated 3m 850 tape..wood fumes will happen regardless of curing.
Use metal or thick acrylic..times have changed make sure your famous framer is up to date
|
|
claret
New Member
🗨️ 73
👍🏻 16
November 2011
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by claret on Sept 28, 2020 21:27:40 GMT 1, Malcolm Hepper in Darlington. Local framer who does the framing for Gallerina gallery and Mackenzie Thorpe gallery in Richmond
Malcolm Hepper in Darlington. Local framer who does the framing for Gallerina gallery and Mackenzie Thorpe gallery in Richmond
|
|
|
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by 1st Design on Sept 28, 2020 21:52:15 GMT 1, Museum would tell you to stay away from any wood if long term conservation or set it and forget it framing is desired.. even if it is cured with shellac or laminated 3m 850 tape..wood fumes will happen regardless of curing. Use metal or thick acrylic..times have changed make sure your famous framer is up to date
Museum would tell you to stay away from any wood if long term conservation or set it and forget it framing is desired.. even if it is cured with shellac or laminated 3m 850 tape..wood fumes will happen regardless of curing. Use metal or thick acrylic..times have changed make sure your famous framer is up to date Nearly all "normal" frames have wooden core and the paint is not airtight. What do you mean with "wood fumes" the oak they use for the frame has dried out in several of years. The frame does also have spacers so there is no wood visibel inside the frame. It is one of the best paper conservator there is doing the job, PLEASE let me know if you have some information I do not have... I thought "nude" frame in wood was totally normal to choose.. |
|
acaipride
New Member
🗨️ 906
👍🏻 447
April 2020
|
Banksy Basquiat Print, Gross Domestic Product™, by acaipride on Sept 28, 2020 23:23:26 GMT 1, I'll make this as brief as I can(your framer should know this, if not, move on, trust me)
Oak is one of the worst woods for conservation, it has one of the most volatile acidity known for wood working and conservation.
All wood is made up of the same chemical compounds that exude fumes regardless of curation(3coats of shellac is standard, and yet that lets the chem fumes from the wood pass through in due time).
If you want to use top wood use pawlonia wood, asian antique museums use it on a last resort basis.
I can go on and on with knowledge from different libraries and update standards but I have done this before and people just choose to believe what they want, though science typically is spot on.
Go for metal framing or acrylic, make sure there is an aluminum mylar layer in the backing and sealing of the frame, this is a must for ambiance variations.
The updated knowledge is out there if you search, most framers just do not take the time to research what nnot because they do not have the time or have a business to run etc..but the updated scientific findings incorporated into conservation practices has leaped in the last 10 years.
I'll make this as brief as I can(your framer should know this, if not, move on, trust me)
Oak is one of the worst woods for conservation, it has one of the most volatile acidity known for wood working and conservation.
All wood is made up of the same chemical compounds that exude fumes regardless of curation(3coats of shellac is standard, and yet that lets the chem fumes from the wood pass through in due time).
If you want to use top wood use pawlonia wood, asian antique museums use it on a last resort basis.
I can go on and on with knowledge from different libraries and update standards but I have done this before and people just choose to believe what they want, though science typically is spot on.
Go for metal framing or acrylic, make sure there is an aluminum mylar layer in the backing and sealing of the frame, this is a must for ambiance variations.
The updated knowledge is out there if you search, most framers just do not take the time to research what nnot because they do not have the time or have a business to run etc..but the updated scientific findings incorporated into conservation practices has leaped in the last 10 years.
|
|
