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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by avec art on Oct 10, 2019 22:47:27 GMT 1, certainly not faked at this point so you know it is authentic. might be an issue down the road. So naive
certainly not faked at this point so you know it is authentic. might be an issue down the road. So naive
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by dogstar on Oct 10, 2019 22:49:39 GMT 1, Some are foto copyโs of the original interesting I think 'predictable' is the word you were looking for.
50 gsm stock is readily available, as are photocopiers.
And it's the same Catch 22 as it is with Di-Faced Tenners - A buyer won't know a fake unless they have a genuine one to compare it with, and anyone with a genuine one hasn't any need to buy another.
Some are foto copyโs of the original interesting I think 'predictable' is the word you were looking for.
50 gsm stock is readily available, as are photocopiers.
And it's the same Catch 22 as it is with Di-Faced Tenners - A buyer won't know a fake unless they have a genuine one to compare it with, and anyone with a genuine one hasn't any need to buy another.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 10, 2019 23:05:21 GMT 1, Patience needed boxsets were ยฃ7k when first out ,now ยฃ350 palestine posters ยฃ700 at one point , now ยฃ50 dismaland riot shield ยฃ5k now ยฃ400 hype around banksy makes some people eager to part with their cash
Patience needed boxsets were ยฃ7k when first out ,now ยฃ350 palestine posters ยฃ700 at one point , now ยฃ50 dismaland riot shield ยฃ5k now ยฃ400 hype around banksy makes some people eager to part with their cash
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by GMA on Oct 11, 2019 0:36:23 GMT 1, Can't understand why anyone would pay good money to buy such an easily faked poster.
[ Or having one professionally framed you cant make a silk purse out of a pig's ear
To keep it looking fresh and preserve it for years to get enjoyment out of it, what other reason is there? What would you do? Put it in a sleeve and keep it under your bed, never to be seen? Or let it get fucked on the wall with torn edges so it only lasts a month at best.
Can't understand why anyone would pay good money to buy such an easily faked poster.
[ Or having one professionally framed you cant make a silk purse out of a pig's ear To keep it looking fresh and preserve it for years to get enjoyment out of it, what other reason is there? What would you do? Put it in a sleeve and keep it under your bed, never to be seen? Or let it get fucked on the wall with torn edges so it only lasts a month at best.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Masong on Oct 11, 2019 0:44:24 GMT 1, [ Or having one professionally framed you cant make a silk purse out of a pig's ear To keep it looking fresh and preserve it for years to get enjoyment out of it, what other reason is there? What would you do? Put it in a sleeve and keep it under your bed, never to be seen? Or let it get fucked on the wall with torn edges so it only lasts a month at best.
Who gives a fรปck what other people think about what you do with it. Itโs not just about the image, itโs the memory of the day.
[ Or having one professionally framed you cant make a silk purse out of a pig's ear To keep it looking fresh and preserve it for years to get enjoyment out of it, what other reason is there? What would you do? Put it in a sleeve and keep it under your bed, never to be seen? Or let it get fucked on the wall with torn edges so it only lasts a month at best. Who gives a fรปck what other people think about what you do with it. Itโs not just about the image, itโs the memory of the day.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by met on Oct 11, 2019 2:59:53 GMT 1, Can't understand why anyone would pay good money to buy such an easily faked poster.
certainly not faked at this point so you know it is authentic. might be an issue down the road. Although it has already been mentioned by others, your certainty on this occasion feels misplaced.
Newsprint paper offcuts can be purchased at pretty much any crafts shop, paper supplier or packaging retailer. The rat image itself isn't especially complicated; it was created using a single screen.
Someone with access to a real poster and a home studio could, within a couple of hours, therefore burn a duplicate screen and churn out reasonably-convincing fake screenprints. And if ignorant, credulous Banksy fans are the target marks, a scammer might save time by just making inkjet prints or photocopies.
Remember to factor in the financial incentive that exists to defraud other punters. Moreover, the rewards for scammers are greater if they can get in early.
Consider also the actual or probable character traits of anyone who is selling (or has sold) multiple copies of the posters on eBay. Even if theirs are genuine, it seems quite likely that getting hold of so many will have required the seller to be dishonest โ e.g. by wheeling out their kids like display whores to ask a GDP steward for posters, and then waiting around for a changeover of shifts, to request more posters from a new steward who's unaware they're being duped.
Given the circumstances, it isn't too far-fetched to imagine a motivated ticket-tout / scalper type of individual very quickly producing and releasing a stack of fake rat posters.
Can't understand why anyone would pay good money to buy such an easily faked poster.
certainly not faked at this point so you know it is authentic. might be an issue down the road. Although it has already been mentioned by others, your certainty on this occasion feels misplaced. Newsprint paper offcuts can be purchased at pretty much any crafts shop, paper supplier or packaging retailer. The rat image itself isn't especially complicated; it was created using a single screen. Someone with access to a real poster and a home studio could, within a couple of hours, therefore burn a duplicate screen and churn out reasonably-convincing fake screenprints. And if ignorant, credulous Ban ksy fans are the target marks, a scammer might save time by just making inkjet prints or photocopies. Remember to factor in the financial incentive that exists to defraud other punters. Moreover, the rewards for scammers are greater if they can get in early. Consider also the actual or probable character traits of anyone who is selling (or has sold) multiple copies of the posters on eBay. Even if theirs are genuine, it seems quite likely that getting hold of so many will have required the seller to be dishonest โ e.g. by wheeling out their kids like display whores to ask a GDP steward for posters, and then waiting around for a changeover of shifts, to request more posters from a new steward who's unaware they're being duped. Given the circumstances, it isn't too far-fetched to imagine a motivated ticket-tout / scalper type of individual very quickly producing and releasing a stack of fake rat posters.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Lroy on Oct 11, 2019 7:50:16 GMT 1, Couple more up on ebay ยฃ250ono Won't be long before down to ยฃ50
Do you know what ? Someone proposed me one against the Single Mum print .. I am French ok, but not sadomasochist :-)
Couple more up on ebay ยฃ250ono Won't be long before down to ยฃ50 Do you know what ? Someone proposed me one against the Single Mum print .. I am French ok, but not sadomasochist :-)
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by kjg on Oct 11, 2019 7:53:16 GMT 1, Couple more up on ebay ยฃ250ono Won't be long before down to ยฃ50 Do you know what ? Someone proposed me one against the Single Mum print .. I am French ok, but not sadomasochist :-) Ha!
If someone wants to trade one: I have a Jonas Wood Voorlinden poster :-)
Couple more up on ebay ยฃ250ono Won't be long before down to ยฃ50 Do you know what ? Someone proposed me one against the Single Mum print .. I am French ok, but not sadomasochist :-) Ha!
If someone wants to trade one: I have a Jonas Wood Voorlinden poster :-)
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Lroy on Oct 11, 2019 8:29:48 GMT 1, Do you know what ? Someone proposed me one against the Single Mum print .. I am French ok, but not sadomasochist :-) Ha!
If someone wants to trade one: I have a Jonas Wood Voorlinden poster :-)
Erm , the print I have - all a symbol, nowadays , a single mum, Stik characters in fact are more social and political that we could think - , one of the first of Stik, only 50 ex and splendid, is 100 x more lovable and valuable than a poster that in anecdotic, for kids, and that could be a fake. A Jonas Wood poster is only a poster you see my friend, and a lot bought a lot ( not me ). Anyway I found this trade totally irrespective, maybe he thinks that I am a froggy fool.
Anyway, Art, is weird sometimes.
Do you know what ? Someone proposed me one against the Single Mum print .. I am French ok, but not sadomasochist :-) Ha!
If someone wants to trade one: I have a Jonas Wood Voorlinden poster :-)
Erm , the print I have - all a symbol, nowadays , a single mum, Stik characters in fact are more social and political that we could think - , one of the first of Stik, only 50 ex and splendid, is 100 x more lovable and valuable than a poster that in anecdotic, for kids, and that could be a fake. A Jonas Wood poster is only a poster you see my friend, and a lot bought a lot ( not me ). Anyway I found this trade totally irrespective, maybe he thinks that I am a froggy fool. Anyway, Art, is weird sometimes.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Lroy on Oct 11, 2019 8:53:41 GMT 1, Do you know what ? Someone proposed me one against the Single Mum print .. I am French ok, but not sadomasochist :-) prices will go down Lroy..wait abit longer ๐ Yes, but the more we wait, most of the fakes will be made ( anyway as said met , quick job to do )... I am sure that all my Banksy posters are legit, cause I bought them the night ( the Petrol bomb per example ) of the launch ( I paid it 250 quids anyway, Bansky made a great gift to Bristolians ( 5 per persons for 5 quids - anyway I remember, they queued under a fload of rain, they deserved it - without counting family etc.... )!
Do you know what ? Someone proposed me one against the Single Mum print .. I am French ok, but not sadomasochist :-) prices will go down Lroy..wait abit longer ๐ Yes, but the more we wait, most of the fakes will be made ( anyway as said met , quick job to do )... I am sure that all my Banksy posters are legit, cause I bought them the night ( the Petrol bomb per example ) of the launch ( I paid it 250 quids anyway, Bansky made a great gift to Bristolians ( 5 per persons for 5 quids - anyway I remember, they queued under a fload of rain, they deserved it - without counting family etc.... )!
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by inefficiency of on Oct 11, 2019 9:01:52 GMT 1, prices will go down Lroy..wait abit longer ๐ Yes, but the more we wait,ย most of the fakes will be made ( anyway as said met, quick job to do )... I am sur that all my Banksy posters are legit, cause I bought them the night ( the Petrol bomb per example ) of the launch ( I paid it 250 quids anyway, Bansky made a great gift to Bristolians ( 5 per persons for 5 quidsย - anyway I remember, they queued under a fload of rain, they deserved it - without counting family etc.... )!
It was indeed a very wet and miserable morning queuing!
prices will go down Lroy..wait abit longer ๐ Yes, but the more we wait,ย most of the fakes will be made ( anyway as said met, quick job to do )... I am sur that all my Banksy posters are legit, cause I bought them the night ( the Petrol bomb per example ) of the launch ( I paid it 250 quids anyway, Bansky made a great gift to Bristolians ( 5 per persons for 5 quidsย - anyway I remember, they queued under a fload of rain, they deserved it - without counting family etc.... )! It was indeed a very wet and miserable morning queuing!
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by telecine on Oct 11, 2019 9:04:00 GMT 1, prices will go down Lroy..wait abit longer ๐ Yes, but the more we wait,ย most of the fakes will be made ( anyway as said met, quick job to do )... I am sur that all my Banksy posters are legit, cause I bought them the night ( the Petrol bomb per example ) of the launch ( I paid it 250 quids anyway, Bansky made a great gift to Bristolians ( 5 per persons for 5 quidsย - anyway I remember, they queued under a fload of rain, they deserved it - without counting family etc.... )!
Yep, LRoy , of course you did the right thing . If you like the image (itโs a great little doodle , who cares if you pay a little more . I paid over the odds for my first box set right at the start of the WOH. It still takes pride of place on our mantelpiece.... worth every penny I paid !!
prices will go down Lroy..wait abit longer ๐ Yes, but the more we wait,ย most of the fakes will be made ( anyway as said met, quick job to do )... I am sur that all my Banksy posters are legit, cause I bought them the night ( the Petrol bomb per example ) of the launch ( I paid it 250 quids anyway, Bansky made a great gift to Bristolians ( 5 per persons for 5 quidsย - anyway I remember, they queued under a fload of rain, they deserved it - without counting family etc.... )! Yep, LRoy , of course you did the right thing . If you like the image (itโs a great little doodle , who cares if you pay a little more . I paid over the odds for my first box set right at the start of the WOH. It still takes pride of place on our mantelpiece.... worth every penny I paid !!
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Lroy on Oct 11, 2019 9:12:30 GMT 1, Yes, but the more we wait, most of the fakes will be made ( anyway as said met , quick job to do )... I am sur that all my Banksy posters are legit, cause I bought them the night ( the Petrol bomb per example ) of the launch ( I paid it 250 quids anyway, Bansky made a great gift to Bristolians ( 5 per persons for 5 quids - anyway I remember, they queued under a fload of rain, they deserved it - without counting family etc.... )! Yep, LRoy , of course you did the right thing . If you like the image (itโs a great little doodle , who cares if you pay a little more . I paid over the odds for my first box set right at the start of the WOH. It still takes pride of place on our mantelpiece.... worth every penny I paid !! Do you know what ? I have sold Invader kit 11 ( Paris ) to pay the Banksy print in case of, 2500 quids+ the box = I was asking 3,5K. So, I made a gift of 15 less 300 quids now, so I have paid this box 700 pounds, what a shame ( even WOH' - website - answered me to " keep my kit, that this box was only a tat and souvenir, without value )... Anyway, we have only one life !
Yes, but the more we wait, most of the fakes will be made ( anyway as said met , quick job to do )... I am sur that all my Banksy posters are legit, cause I bought them the night ( the Petrol bomb per example ) of the launch ( I paid it 250 quids anyway, Bansky made a great gift to Bristolians ( 5 per persons for 5 quids - anyway I remember, they queued under a fload of rain, they deserved it - without counting family etc.... )! Yep, LRoy , of course you did the right thing . If you like the image (itโs a great little doodle , who cares if you pay a little more . I paid over the odds for my first box set right at the start of the WOH. It still takes pride of place on our mantelpiece.... worth every penny I paid !! Do you know what ? I have sold Invader kit 11 ( Paris ) to pay the Banksy print in case of, 2500 quids+ the box = I was asking 3,5K. So, I made a gift of 15 less 300 quids now, so I have paid this box 700 pounds, what a shame ( even WOH' - website - answered me to " keep my kit, that this box was only a tat and souvenir, without value )... Anyway, we have only one life !
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Daniel Silk on Oct 11, 2019 13:58:58 GMT 1, Hmmmm what would happen if somebody printed off a few thousand of these and put them on eBay, Buy Now ยฃ5 ๐คช
Hmmmm what would happen if somebody printed off a few thousand of these and put them on eBay, Buy Now ยฃ5 ๐คช
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by GMA on Oct 11, 2019 14:27:45 GMT 1, To keep it looking fresh and preserve it for years to get enjoyment out of it, what other reason is there? What would you do? Put it in a sleeve and keep it under your bed, never to be seen? Or let it get fucked on the wall with torn edges so it only lasts a month at best. I'll frame mine in an ikea from costing no more than ยฃ10 Well good for you, sure it'll look fantastic in years to come once the papers turned yellow. But each to their own.
To keep it looking fresh and preserve it for years to get enjoyment out of it, what other reason is there? What would you do? Put it in a sleeve and keep it under your bed, never to be seen? Or let it get fucked on the wall with torn edges so it only lasts a month at best. I'll frame mine in an ikea from costing no more than ยฃ10 Well good for you, sure it'll look fantastic in years to come once the papers turned yellow. But each to their own.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by hunter07 on Oct 11, 2019 14:49:20 GMT 1, I'll frame mine in an ikea from costing no more than ยฃ10ย ย Well good for you, sure it'll look fantastic in years to come once the papers turned yellow. But each to their own.ย
Sounds like someone is not getting a poster ha
I'll frame mine in an ikea from costing no more than ยฃ10ย ย Well good for you, sure it'll look fantastic in years to come once the papers turned yellow. But each to their own.ย Sounds like someone is not getting a poster ha
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by jimbofatz on Oct 11, 2019 14:52:11 GMT 1, They are printed by the same people and exactly in the same process and style as the "posters" 3D did for his fire sale exhibit. They were also freebies.
They are printed by the same people and exactly in the same process and style as the "posters" 3D did for his fire sale exhibit. They were also freebies.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Terry Fuckwitt on Oct 11, 2019 14:56:54 GMT 1, They are printed by the same people and exactly in the same process and style as the "posters" 3D did for his fire sale exhibit. They were also freebies.
You still not sold all your 3d prints yet?
They are printed by the same people and exactly in the same process and style as the "posters" 3D did for his fire sale exhibit. They were also freebies. You still not sold all your 3d prints yet?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Terry Fuckwitt on Oct 11, 2019 15:13:57 GMT 1,
Or they sell them for ยฃ10 in the shop as an open edition.
Or they sell them for ยฃ10 in the shop as an open edition.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by GMA on Oct 11, 2019 15:26:45 GMT 1, They probably will sell them as an open edition in the shop, I would.
They probably will sell them as an open edition in the shop, I would.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Majestic on Oct 11, 2019 15:36:17 GMT 1, Well I for one was chuffed with mine.
A lovely and unexpected bonus to a really nice day.
Super excited to get it back from the framers - I'm not afraid to admit it!
Well I for one was chuffed with mine.
A lovely and unexpected bonus to a really nice day.
Super excited to get it back from the framers - I'm not afraid to admit it!
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by GMA on Oct 11, 2019 15:41:14 GMT 1, Well good for you, sure it'll look fantastic in years to come once the papers turned yellow. But each to their own. you think its fantastic ? ZZzz.. ZZzz.. you do your thing, I'll do mine. Let's just leave it at that.
Well good for you, sure it'll look fantastic in years to come once the papers turned yellow. But each to their own. you think its fantastic ? ZZzz.. ZZzz.. you do your thing, I'll do mine. Let's just leave it at that.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by nobokov on Oct 11, 2019 15:44:37 GMT 1, I'd cut that thing into a circle and make a clock out of it.
I'd cut that thing into a circle and make a clock out of it.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by iamzero on Oct 11, 2019 17:15:51 GMT 1, Any more handed out today?
Any more handed out today?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by inefficiency of on Oct 11, 2019 17:21:08 GMT 1, Any more handed out today?
Iโd like to know also. Long drive tomorrow, wondering if I need to organise a specific time to be there.
Any more handed out today? Iโd like to know also. Long drive tomorrow, wondering if I need to organise a specific time to be there.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by GMA on Oct 11, 2019 17:29:59 GMT 1, If the weather in London is anything like here it'll be like a wet tissue.
If the weather in London is anything like here it'll be like a wet tissue.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by jimbofatz on Oct 11, 2019 17:53:25 GMT 1, They are printed by the same people and exactly in the same process and style as the "posters" 3D did for his fire sale exhibit. They were also freebies.
More utter nonsense from you Jimbo Flatearth, 3D's were printed by Laz's old print studio in Greenwich, which no longer exists.
Dudeee "people" didn't cease to exist when that studio shutdown broo. This isn't a Keanu Reaves movie dogstar and that band sux.
Same newsprint promo/window display process ... they all gave it away... don't pay.
They are printed by the same people and exactly in the same process and style as the "posters" 3D did for his fire sale exhibit. They were also freebies.
More utter nonsense from you Jimbo Flatearth, 3D's were printed by Laz's old print studio in Greenwich, which no longer exists.
Dudeee "people" didn't cease to exist when that studio shutdown broo. This isn't a Keanu Reaves movie dogstar and that band sux.
Same newsprint promo/window display process ... they all gave it away... don't pay.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by inefficiency of on Oct 11, 2019 17:57:10 GMT 1, If the weather in London is anything like here in Brizzle it'll be like a wet tissue.
Yeah itโs been pouring up here too. Iโm willing to risk the elements for it though. ๐๐ป
If the weather in London is anything like here in Brizzle it'll be like a wet tissue. Yeah itโs been pouring up here too. Iโm willing to risk the elements for it though. ๐๐ป
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by DAVE on Oct 11, 2019 18:47:57 GMT 1, Any more handed out today? Iโd like to know also. Long drive tomorrow, wondering if I need to organise a specific time to be there. First Post ;
I would get there as early as possible, when we went on Saturday one of the workers kindly told my girlfriend that they only hand them out earlier on when there are school children around and to come back tomorrow.
We arrived a bit too early at about 9am to his amusement on Sunday and he told us to come back in an hour or so after breakfast, we did and there were a group of school children being handed out posters and he managed to give us one!
Obviously the key here would be to check if they have been handing them out recently but thought I'd share with you.
PS. I would be careful with some of the Rats on eBay, I've seen a couple that look a bit suspect.
Any more handed out today? Iโd like to know also. Long drive tomorrow, wondering if I need to organise a specific time to be there. First Post ; I would get there as early as possible, when we went on Saturday one of the workers kindly told my girlfriend that they only hand them out earlier on when there are school children around and to come back tomorrow. We arrived a bit too early at about 9am to his amusement on Sunday and he told us to come back in an hour or so after breakfast, we did and there were a group of school children being handed out posters and he managed to give us one! Obviously the key here would be to check if they have been handing them out recently but thought I'd share with you. PS. I would be careful with some of the Rats on eBay, I've seen a couple that look a bit suspect.
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