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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 17:45:08 GMT 1,
yep... it is. probably impacts value but who cares when you are a fan?
they are much flatter. they were paper mounted, marouflés as we say in french Ah right i get you (said whilst googling marouflés),, so literally stuck with adhesive to a thicker flatter grade of paper. I'm guessing this process is irreversible? They look fantastic btw.. 
yep... it is. probably impacts value but who cares when you are a fan? they are much flatter. they were paper mounted, marouflés as we say in french Ah right i get you (said whilst googling marouflés),, so literally stuck with adhesive to a thicker flatter grade of paper. I'm guessing this process is irreversible? They look fantastic btw.. |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by acaipride on Oct 8, 2020 18:38:34 GMT 1, they are much flatter. they were paper mounted, marouflés as we say in french
This is short of a dry mounting technique a bit reversible but I'm afraid in this case the print would peel off in pieces due to the nature of the print, good sentiment but the execution for framing was a misjudgment on the framer's part
they are much flatter. they were paper mounted, marouflés as we say in french This is short of a dry mounting technique a bit reversible but I'm afraid in this case the print would peel off in pieces due to the nature of the print, good sentiment but the execution for framing was a misjudgment on the framer's part |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Warm Gun on Oct 8, 2020 18:49:24 GMT 1, Why is everyone so concerned about how these were mounted, the op has already said he will never sell them and that he bought them because he loves them...calm down people....he doesn't care. Let him enjoy his prints!! 😅
(They look great by the way)
Why is everyone so concerned about how these were mounted, the op has already said he will never sell them and that he bought them because he loves them...calm down people....he doesn't care. Let him enjoy his prints!! 😅
(They look great by the way)
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Icesay on Oct 8, 2020 18:58:28 GMT 1, I think they look amazing. Personally I think if you have the before and after pictures you have a great visual documentary of what are the most recent Banksy prints available to Joe public.
I think they look amazing. Personally I think if you have the before and after pictures you have a great visual documentary of what are the most recent Banksy prints available to Joe public.
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by acaipride on Oct 8, 2020 19:01:52 GMT 1, Why is everyone so concerned about how these were mounted, the op has already said he will never sell them and that he bought them because he loves them...calm down people....he doesn't care. Let him enjoy his prints!! 😅 (They look great by the way)
They do look amazing framed as they are right now, the paper will deteriorate with the glue used though and will start to show signs of how the glue was smeared on the panel.
With regards to not selling though.. I can tell you, everyone has their day, everyone has their time, and everyone has their price. To think that these will never be sold is very hopeful
Why is everyone so concerned about how these were mounted, the op has already said he will never sell them and that he bought them because he loves them...calm down people....he doesn't care. Let him enjoy his prints!! 😅 (They look great by the way) They do look amazing framed as they are right now, the paper will deteriorate with the glue used though and will start to show signs of how the glue was smeared on the panel. With regards to not selling though.. I can tell you, everyone has their day, everyone has their time, and everyone has their price. To think that these will never be sold is very hopeful |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Mojo 88 on Oct 8, 2020 19:02:44 GMT 1, Restored and framed by Vincent Tiercin, l'encadreur, in Paris. Fantastic work   
Looks fantastic! You’ll enjoy these for years to come.
Restored and framed by Vincent Tiercin, l'encadreur, in Paris. Fantastic work Looks fantastic! You’ll enjoy these for years to come. |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by jjplay on Oct 8, 2020 19:39:48 GMT 1, They look fantastic but I am too nervous to copy your framing option.
They look fantastic but I am too nervous to copy your framing option.
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Warm Gun on Oct 8, 2020 19:56:15 GMT 1, Why is everyone so concerned about how these were mounted, the op has already said he will never sell them and that he bought them because he loves them...calm down people....he doesn't care. Let him enjoy his prints!! 😅 (They look great by the way) They do look amazing framed as they are right now, the paper will deteriorate with the glue used though and will start to show signs of how the glue was smeared on the panel. With regards to not selling though.. I can tell you, everyone has their day, everyone has their time, and everyone has their price. To think that these will never be sold is very hopeful
Why is everyone so concerned about how these were mounted, the op has already said he will never sell them and that he bought them because he loves them...calm down people....he doesn't care. Let him enjoy his prints!! 😅 (They look great by the way) They do look amazing framed as they are right now, the paper will deteriorate with the glue used though and will start to show signs of how the glue was smeared on the panel. With regards to not selling though.. I can tell you, everyone has their day, everyone has their time, and everyone has their price. To think that these will never be sold is very hopeful Not every man has a price and not everything is for sale. |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by qwerty on Oct 8, 2020 20:13:31 GMT 1, they look great, i'm really torn about my set, if to frame them as they are or wait until I can get them flattened like this, does the process preserve the prints?
they look great, i'm really torn about my set, if to frame them as they are or wait until I can get them flattened like this, does the process preserve the prints?
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by acaipride on Oct 8, 2020 21:47:24 GMT 1, They do look amazing framed as they are right now, the paper will deteriorate with the glue used though and will start to show signs of how the glue was smeared on the panel. With regards to not selling though.. I can tell you, everyone has their day, everyone has their time, and everyone has their price. To think that these will never be sold is very hopeful Not every man has a price and not everything is for sale.
Ideally, but our pieces of paper do.
This is urbanARTassociation, not DeepWebWeBuyYourKids forum.
They do look amazing framed as they are right now, the paper will deteriorate with the glue used though and will start to show signs of how the glue was smeared on the panel. With regards to not selling though.. I can tell you, everyone has their day, everyone has their time, and everyone has their price. To think that these will never be sold is very hopeful Not every man has a price and not everything is for sale. Ideally, but our pieces of paper do. This is urbanARTassociation, not DeepWebWeBuyYourKids forum. |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by ecomwizard on Oct 9, 2020 0:25:17 GMT 1, Really like this rat, if anyone has one for sale please PM.
Really like this rat, if anyone has one for sale please PM.
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 9, 2020 1:45:58 GMT 1, Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future
Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints
Strong hold😬
Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future
Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints
Strong hold😬
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by jp226 on Oct 9, 2020 1:56:31 GMT 1, Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬
Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 Fo'real! I just brokered a Silver Flags for my in-laws and was shocked by the price they pull in now. Not trying to create a 'hype' thread, but what do others think these will go for in a year? |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Emile on Oct 9, 2020 6:27:13 GMT 1, Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬
Ok, but Flags wasn't given away for free on the street
(Not saying I dont agree with you. Just an observation)
Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 Ok, but Flags wasn't given away for free on the street (Not saying I dont agree with you. Just an observation) |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by iamzero on Oct 9, 2020 7:08:48 GMT 1, Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 Ok, but Flags wasn't given away for free on the street (Not saying I dont agree with you. Just an observation)
What difference does this make? If some is collectible or desired by many then the fact that something was originally free or had a purchase price has no relevance.
Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 Ok, but Flags wasn't given away for free on the street (Not saying I dont agree with you. Just an observation) What difference does this make? If some is collectible or desired by many then the fact that something was originally free or had a purchase price has no relevance. |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Emile on Oct 9, 2020 7:31:09 GMT 1, Ok, but Flags wasn't given away for free on the street (Not saying I dont agree with you. Just an observation) What difference does this make? If some is collectible or desired by many then the fact that something was originally free or had a purchase price has no relevance.
You somehow seem offended by my comment, but maybe that's just me reading between the lines 
If we are truly comparing Flags to the GDP prints, then we also have to take into account that there were several editions of Flags, some signed, all numbered and limited editions, released through POW and eligible for a PC COA
I realise you only commented on my "given away for free" comment, but that statement does have a larger connotation than just the fact that it didn't have a purchase price
Ok, but Flags wasn't given away for free on the street (Not saying I dont agree with you. Just an observation) What difference does this make? If some is collectible or desired by many then the fact that something was originally free or had a purchase price has no relevance. You somehow seem offended by my comment, but maybe that's just me reading between the lines If we are truly comparing Flags to the GDP prints, then we also have to take into account that there were several editions of Flags, some signed, all numbered and limited editions, released through POW and eligible for a PC COA I realise you only commented on my "given away for free" comment, but that statement does have a larger connotation than just the fact that it didn't have a purchase price |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Atelier on Oct 9, 2020 7:31:10 GMT 1, I don’t have a parking ticket so I’m guessing mine must be fake? No... wait, my pants are still drying out from getting soaked in the pissing rain and wind on that final Sunday. We got out of the train station and couldn’t move anywhere for about 30 minutes until the weather gave way a little. Parking ticket my arse. I still have a chicken bone from the KFC after. In original box as well with a hand written napkin from sharona the manager
I don’t have a parking ticket so I’m guessing mine must be fake? No... wait, my pants are still drying out from getting soaked in the pissing rain and wind on that final Sunday. We got out of the train station and couldn’t move anywhere for about 30 minutes until the weather gave way a little. Parking ticket my arse. I still have a chicken bone from the KFC after. In original box as well with a hand written napkin from sharona the manager I've seen similar "KFC" provenance as an ALT for people who arrived by foot without a car park ticket. Sotheby's told me I would need to check the authenticity of Sharona's handwriting. Lot of fakes on ebay etc. |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by iamzero on Oct 9, 2020 8:11:28 GMT 1, Not offended in the slightest and not making any comparison between the two other than being by Banksy. I’d say simply pointing out that the starting price bears no relevance to where any items price ends up.
Not offended in the slightest and not making any comparison between the two other than being by Banksy. I’d say simply pointing out that the starting price bears no relevance to where any items price ends up.
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Matt on Oct 9, 2020 8:20:19 GMT 1, I still have a chicken bone from the KFC after. In original box as well with a hand written napkin from sharona the manager I've seen similar "KFC" provenance as an ALT for people who arrived by foot without a car park ticket. Sotheby's told me I would need to check the authenticity of Sharona's handwriting. Lot of fakes on ebay etc.
Sharona has stopped authenticating these.
The legal risk’s not worth it according to her
I still have a chicken bone from the KFC after. In original box as well with a hand written napkin from sharona the manager I've seen similar "KFC" provenance as an ALT for people who arrived by foot without a car park ticket. Sotheby's told me I would need to check the authenticity of Sharona's handwriting. Lot of fakes on ebay etc. Sharona has stopped authenticating these. The legal risk’s not worth it according to her |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Atelier on Oct 9, 2020 8:37:09 GMT 1, I've seen similar "KFC" provenance as an ALT for people who arrived by foot without a car park ticket. Sotheby's told me I would need to check the authenticity of Sharona's handwriting. Lot of fakes on ebay etc. Sharona has stopped authenticating these. The legal risk’s not worth it according to her
That's disappointing news. I found a Sharona KFC napkin GDP Authentication on ebay but it's in blue ink, not the standard black ink as per the black ink pens provided to the store managers from KFC corporate HQ.
I've seen similar "KFC" provenance as an ALT for people who arrived by foot without a car park ticket. Sotheby's told me I would need to check the authenticity of Sharona's handwriting. Lot of fakes on ebay etc. Sharona has stopped authenticating these. The legal risk’s not worth it according to her That's disappointing news. I found a Sharona KFC napkin GDP Authentication on ebay but it's in blue ink, not the standard black ink as per the black ink pens provided to the store managers from KFC corporate HQ. |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 8:38:55 GMT 1, Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by peted on Oct 9, 2020 8:42:33 GMT 1, They do look amazing framed as they are right now, the paper will deteriorate with the glue used though and will start to show signs of how the glue was smeared on the panel. With regards to not selling though.. I can tell you, everyone has their day, everyone has their time, and everyone has their price. To think that these will never be sold is very hopeful Not every man has a price and not everything is for sale.
They do look amazing framed as they are right now, the paper will deteriorate with the glue used though and will start to show signs of how the glue was smeared on the panel. With regards to not selling though.. I can tell you, everyone has their day, everyone has their time, and everyone has their price. To think that these will never be sold is very hopeful Not every man has a price and not everything is for sale. Not according to Thomas Bolt - A Man For All Seasons |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by GMA on Oct 9, 2020 8:44:58 GMT 1, Good news for my daughter, it's hers afterall and on her bedroom wall. No matter what price it reaches, as she grows up, if she needs to get out of a financial fix, she can sell it on to help out. I don't think they will reach crazy amounts though and they're not in the same league as an official print. BUT, I don't expect many survived the journeys back home so there won't be hundreds in good quality as time goes on either.
Good news for my daughter, it's hers afterall and on her bedroom wall. No matter what price it reaches, as she grows up, if she needs to get out of a financial fix, she can sell it on to help out. I don't think they will reach crazy amounts though and they're not in the same league as an official print. BUT, I don't expect many survived the journeys back home so there won't be hundreds in good quality as time goes on either.
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 9, 2020 8:50:03 GMT 1, Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 Ok, but Flags wasn't given away for free on the street (Not saying I dont agree with you. Just an observation)
Flags was a edition of 1000 plus all the other editions
Formica 20 x 2
Gold 112
Aps unknown
Total 1200?
Flags print was Released at £100 and 4 years later 400-£500
GDP rat was trading at £100 when first released and a year later £2700
GDP rats 200-800 released , most of that figure destroyed or ruined
100-300 in good condition ?
Screen print , so classed above posters and produced in the same format as the original prints
The only affordable banksy original to purchase For most collectors if the market carries on as is
Pest control although will know the official numbers produced ?
Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 Ok, but Flags wasn't given away for free on the street (Not saying I dont agree with you. Just an observation) Flags was a edition of 1000 plus all the other editions Formica 20 x 2 Gold 112 Aps unknown Total 1200? Flags print was Released at £100 and 4 years later 400-£500 GDP rat was trading at £100 when first released and a year later £2700 GDP rats 200-800 released , most of that figure destroyed or ruined 100-300 in good condition ? Screen print , so classed above posters and produced in the same format as the original prints The only affordable banksy original to purchase For most collectors if the market carries on as is Pest control although will know the official numbers produced ? |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 9, 2020 8:57:48 GMT 1, Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts
The market dictates
Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints
The only value is in signed prints etc
GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000
Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k
Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands
Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item
The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some
The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum
Unless you need to sell , these will trade like the flags prints In the near future Flags was once the cheapest and least adored prints Strong hold😬 So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Emile on Oct 9, 2020 9:19:04 GMT 1, So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum
I agree with most of this, except "many stated they are free and no value" - that's not how I remember these becoming available at GDP
"So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k?" - valid question by deelish
So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum I agree with most of this, except "many stated they are free and no value" - that's not how I remember these becoming available at GDP "So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k?" - valid question by deelish |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 9:24:24 GMT 1, So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum I thought (signed) gift prints tend to change hands for closer to £10-15k with rock solid provenance such as payslips etc from the staff members that worked at the events?
Agree that people have access to facts surrounding these though and suggesting that they are going to be worth £30k in the near future is certainly just a 'thought of the forum' (and presumably the thought of an owner of a few) as you put it.
So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum I thought (signed) gift prints tend to change hands for closer to £10-15k with rock solid provenance such as payslips etc from the staff members that worked at the events?
Agree that people have access to facts surrounding these though and suggesting that they are going to be worth £30k in the near future is certainly just a 'thought of the forum' (and presumably the thought of an owner of a few) as you put it.
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Oct 9, 2020 9:27:31 GMT 1, From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum I agree with most of this, except "many stated they are free and no value" - that's not how I remember these becoming available at GDP "So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k?" - valid question by deelish
No one has any idea of how the market will turn
We would be all rich if we did
Especially harder with a living artist , anything they do can effect their market positively or negatively
Could anyone imagine unsigned prints trading at prices now that were collecting in 2010 . Same applies here
£50 and £100 stik prints From 2011-2013 now trade for £13-£20k , a lot of money in this market and unknowns
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum I agree with most of this, except "many stated they are free and no value" - that's not how I remember these becoming available at GDP "So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k?" - valid question by deelish No one has any idea of how the market will turn We would be all rich if we did Especially harder with a living artist , anything they do can effect their market positively or negatively Could anyone imagine unsigned prints trading at prices now that were collecting in 2010 . Same applies here £50 and £100 stik prints From 2011-2013 now trade for £13-£20k , a lot of money in this market and unknowns |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Emile on Oct 9, 2020 9:42:12 GMT 1, From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum I thought (signed) gift prints tend to change hands for closer to £10-15k with rock solid provenance such as payslips etc from the staff members that worked at the events?
Yes, the Dismaland gift print is exchanging hands for that amount roughly (well the higher end of that), I believe. But that one is very small
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum I thought (signed) gift prints tend to change hands for closer to £10-15k with rock solid provenance such as payslips etc from the staff members that worked at the events? Yes, the Dismaland gift print is exchanging hands for that amount roughly (well the higher end of that), I believe. But that one is very small |
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Banksy CRISIS AS USUAL Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 9:48:42 GMT 1, So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum
(should have been your kids print anyway ... but hey ho)
Unsigned prints have rock slid provenance ( a coa) , these never will.
what gift prints have been trading at over £50k?
How hard is it to copy a parking ticket & print?
How hard is it to try and guess how few were released when you have no idea?
Good luck!
So are you suggesting in the near future these will be trading for £30k? To a suspicious mind one might think this was a painfully transparent attempt to hype up the value of an item I'm presuming you own?
For the record I think these are great. Especially the flattened out versions recently shared. However to try and compare an item with no edition number, real provenance or COA to an authenticated editioned print is a touch ludicrous.
Plus now these are going for a few £k each there's bound to be a spate of better fake batches doing the rounds soon. If you can punt out a few hundred copies at £2k each you better be sure someone is already looking into duplicating these to a better standard.
From the facts pointed in my other posts points to reasonings to thoughts The market dictates Same discussions were had 2010 with unsigned prints , they won’t be worth anything collectors will want signed prints The only value is in signed prints etc GDP prints when first released , many stated they are free and no value yet a year later over £3000 Gift prints are not assigned a coa yet people pay over £50k Street pieces are not assigned coa but in auctions people pay hundreds of thousands Again everyone has access to the facts surrounding these and look at the prices people are willing to pay just a year later for a FREE item The whole market for banksy is ludicrous as you state for some The wider market dictates the market value than just the thoughts of the forum (should have been your kids print anyway ... but hey ho) Unsigned prints have rock slid provenance ( a coa) , these never will. what gift prints have been trading at over £50k? How hard is it to copy a parking ticket & print? How hard is it to try and guess how few were released when you have no idea? Good luck! |
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