nobokov
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by nobokov on Jan 12, 2023 16:24:58 GMT 1, Even though they were for a good cause, they still look terrible and ridiculous on a wall. It's way too small to be functional as a doormat. A doormat framed just screams "douche" if you have to explain to everyone why you have a doormat framed on a wall. I'm glad to have sold it years ago after feeling the regret of chasing Banksy fomo. You sound a bit like a douche, to be honest. Happy to have one as well, certainly one of the better Banksy pieces given the story attached. I am, that's why I have a doormat framed on my wall.
Even though they were for a good cause, they still look terrible and ridiculous on a wall. It's way too small to be functional as a doormat. A doormat framed just screams "douche" if you have to explain to everyone why you have a doormat framed on a wall. I'm glad to have sold it years ago after feeling the regret of chasing Banksy fomo. You sound a bit like a douche, to be honest. Happy to have one as well, certainly one of the better Banksy pieces given the story attached. I am, that's why I have a doormat framed on my wall.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Charlie Bronson on Jan 12, 2023 16:26:20 GMT 1, A great, be it heavy conversation piece. The sand on the orange parts always reminds me of and reiterates Bโs intention/message behind the piece. Has been and will always be one of my favorite pieces I own because of that.
A great, be it heavy conversation piece. The sand on the orange parts always reminds me of and reiterates Bโs intention/message behind the piece. Has been and will always be one of my favorite pieces I own because of that.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Gentle Mental on Jan 12, 2023 16:28:21 GMT 1, Itโs good art. Very good art.
Itโs good art. Very good art.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by The Italian One on Jan 12, 2023 16:29:49 GMT 1, Haha so bitterโฆ sound more annoyed you sold โyears agoโ if nothing else. Still itโs your opinion and weโre all entitled to one. I personally think itโs a great conversation pieceโฆ that perfectly explains to anyone why I would have a doormat on the wall! Them: Why do you have a doormat on the wall? Me: Itโs by Banksy Them: Wow! Me: Now let me explain what it representsโฆ ๐ No, not bitter at all about selling the doormat. The day I received it, I looked it and thought about how ridiculous "art" collecting is and sold it at or near cost the same day.
This forum is all about pumping items for resale and it needed to resort to creating endless posts about this doormat to try and create value, where there is little. Trying to create value by touting a distinction between batches and labels is pretty laughable. And all of the talk about meaning feels pretentious to me, rich people trying to feel good about themselves by buying an item from a rich artist and saying it was for charity.
If it was about meaning and about the people, everyone would've been touting the organization and have continued to purchase $500 worth of goods on a monthly basis from them. This was just and continues to be an example of creating Banksy fomo for resale. It's obvious, but very few can admit it because of self-interest.
uffff sounds like you are having a bad day mate! it is supposed to be banksy collectors forum and LW raised about 2 mil only with this. how can you complain about that? no need a reply
Haha so bitterโฆ sound more annoyed you sold โyears agoโ if nothing else. Still itโs your opinion and weโre all entitled to one. I personally think itโs a great conversation pieceโฆ that perfectly explains to anyone why I would have a doormat on the wall! Them: Why do you have a doormat on the wall? Me: Itโs by Banksy Them: Wow! Me: Now let me explain what it representsโฆ ๐ No, not bitter at all about selling the doormat. The day I received it, I looked it and thought about how ridiculous "art" collecting is and sold it at or near cost the same day.
This forum is all about pumping items for resale and it needed to resort to creating endless posts about this doormat to try and create value, where there is little. Trying to create value by touting a distinction between batches and labels is pretty laughable. And all of the talk about meaning feels pretentious to me, rich people trying to feel good about themselves by buying an item from a rich artist and saying it was for charity.
If it was about meaning and about the people, everyone would've been touting the organization and have continued to purchase $500 worth of goods on a monthly basis from them. This was just and continues to be an example of creating Banksy fomo for resale. It's obvious, but very few can admit it because of self-interest.
uffff sounds like you are having a bad day mate! it is supposed to be banksy collectors forum and LW raised about 2 mil only with this. how can you complain about that? no need a reply
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Someone Like You on Jan 12, 2023 16:30:06 GMT 1, Now how much is the cost for a first batch ?
Now how much is the cost for a first batch ?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Wendero on Jan 12, 2023 16:34:58 GMT 1, Absolutely one of my favorite artworks , of course framed on my wall and i'm happy to explain to my guests why a Mat in a frame (explained also to my framer and his customers during the pick up )
Anyway, still none has put one for sale during this day,how long do we have to wait?
Absolutely one of my favorite artworks , of course framed on my wall and i'm happy to explain to my guests why a Mat in a frame (explained also to my framer and his customers during the pick up ) Anyway, still none has put one for sale during this day,how long do we have to wait?
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nobokov
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by nobokov on Jan 12, 2023 16:36:19 GMT 1, Even though they were for a good cause, they still look terrible and ridiculous on a wall. It's way too small to be functional as a doormat. A doormat framed just screams "douche" if you have to explain to everyone why you have a doormat framed on a wall. I'm glad to have sold it years ago after feeling the regret of chasing Banksy fomo. The joy of art that we have different opinions and tastes! Perhaps that's why art can be such a lucrative business. Opinions are so malleable especially when you can attach meaning and monetary value to anything.
Even though they were for a good cause, they still look terrible and ridiculous on a wall. It's way too small to be functional as a doormat. A doormat framed just screams "douche" if you have to explain to everyone why you have a doormat framed on a wall. I'm glad to have sold it years ago after feeling the regret of chasing Banksy fomo. The joy of art that we have different opinions and tastes! Perhaps that's why art can be such a lucrative business. Opinions are so malleable especially when you can attach meaning and monetary value to anything.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by ericc on Jan 12, 2023 16:39:23 GMT 1, Never understood why these are so cheap on the secondary. Now that itโs confirmed this is a closed edition of around 4000 (probably less) i can see prices shooting up over the next months. I agree that conceptually this is definitely one of his best works.
Never understood why these are so cheap on the secondary. Now that itโs confirmed this is a closed edition of around 4000 (probably less) i can see prices shooting up over the next months. I agree that conceptually this is definitely one of his best works.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Majestic on Jan 12, 2023 16:41:03 GMT 1, Curious question...
Does this put the mat in the same category as other GDP items now? T-Shirts, Cans etc.
Those that are numbered, but without any chance of PC COA.
I only ask as the cans etc seem to command a higher premium but with this announcement it will presumably even the playing field a bit?
Curious question...
Does this put the mat in the same category as other GDP items now? T-Shirts, Cans etc.
Those that are numbered, but without any chance of PC COA.
I only ask as the cans etc seem to command a higher premium but with this announcement it will presumably even the playing field a bit?
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state
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by state on Jan 12, 2023 16:54:35 GMT 1, Does anyone have a tag numbered in the 4,000s ?
Does anyone have a tag numbered in the 4,000s ?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by My Name is Frank on Jan 12, 2023 16:58:00 GMT 1, Frame it? Mine is covered in dirt and rain and the dog chewed the welcome off. picture please! I was only joking, maybe should have put a wink
Frame it? Mine is covered in dirt and rain and the dog chewed the welcome off. picture please! I was only joking, maybe should have put a wink
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Pawel on Jan 12, 2023 17:04:20 GMT 1, Curious question... Does this put the mat in the same category as other GDP items now? T-Shirts, Cans etc. Those that are numbered, but without any chance of PC COA. I only ask as the cans etc seem to command a higher premium but with this announcement it will presumably even the playing field a bit? If T-shirt and cans come with COA then there's no comparison.
Curious question... Does this put the mat in the same category as other GDP items now? T-Shirts, Cans etc. Those that are numbered, but without any chance of PC COA. I only ask as the cans etc seem to command a higher premium but with this announcement it will presumably even the playing field a bit? If T-shirt and cans come with COA then there's no comparison.
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Majestic
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Majestic on Jan 12, 2023 17:05:56 GMT 1, Curious question... Does this put the mat in the same category as other GDP items now? T-Shirts, Cans etc. Those that are numbered, but without any chance of PC COA. I only ask as the cans etc seem to command a higher premium but with this announcement it will presumably even the playing field a bit? If T-shirt and cans come with COA then there's no comparison. They don't, that's my point
Curious question... Does this put the mat in the same category as other GDP items now? T-Shirts, Cans etc. Those that are numbered, but without any chance of PC COA. I only ask as the cans etc seem to command a higher premium but with this announcement it will presumably even the playing field a bit? If T-shirt and cans come with COA then there's no comparison. They don't, that's my point
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by zoomrider on Jan 12, 2023 17:06:21 GMT 1, Curious question... Does this put the mat in the same category as other GDP items now? T-Shirts, Cans etc. Those that are numbered, but without any chance of PC COA. I only ask as the cans etc seem to command a higher premium but with this announcement it will presumably even the playing field a bit? I guess question would be how many spray cans, cushions etc were there?
4000 is not a huge edition but I suspect far more than there are spray cans etc. They will be more valuable in that respect?
Curious question... Does this put the mat in the same category as other GDP items now? T-Shirts, Cans etc. Those that are numbered, but without any chance of PC COA. I only ask as the cans etc seem to command a higher premium but with this announcement it will presumably even the playing field a bit? I guess question would be how many spray cans, cushions etc were there? 4000 is not a huge edition but I suspect far more than there are spray cans etc. They will be more valuable in that respect?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by artearte on Jan 12, 2023 17:09:53 GMT 1, I was buying those under cost for the last 2 yearsโฆ Nice to see those going up on price
I was buying those under cost for the last 2 yearsโฆ Nice to see those going up on price
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Lroy on Jan 12, 2023 17:12:53 GMT 1, There are still a few references (news articles announcing its launch etc) but youโre rightโฆ seems the product description and waitlist sign up are gone! Agree this suggests they are now done. These Mats will only increase in price. They truly look great framed and on the wall. A great message too! It's a very long time ago that Welcome Mat were no longer available ! The website where to buy suggesting ( error 404 or a thing like that ). They just officialy annuncing that they stop the production, but it was since a long time now. Flippers will be happy. Me too.
There are still a few references (news articles announcing its launch etc) but youโre rightโฆ seems the product description and waitlist sign up are gone! Agree this suggests they are now done. These Mats will only increase in price. They truly look great framed and on the wall. A great message too! It's a very long time ago that Welcome Mat were no longer available ! The website where to buy suggesting ( error 404 or a thing like that ). They just officialy annuncing that they stop the production, but it was since a long time now. Flippers will be happy. Me too.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by flingading on Jan 12, 2023 17:16:53 GMT 1, I was buying those under cost for the last 2 yearsโฆ Nice to see those going up on price So people were dropping ยฃ500 (or whatever the original cost was) on these and then selling them to you for less?
I was buying those under cost for the last 2 yearsโฆ Nice to see those going up on price So people were dropping ยฃ500 (or whatever the original cost was) on these and then selling them to you for less?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by The Rat King on Jan 12, 2023 17:20:38 GMT 1, Spray cans and cushions would be in another league for sure , I think the mat is better than the box set , better than any poster , betters than the tenners , somewhere there behind the shirts and cushions , then unsigned prints , something like that right
Spray cans and cushions would be in another league for sure , I think the mat is better than the box set , better than any poster , betters than the tenners , somewhere there behind the shirts and cushions , then unsigned prints , something like that right
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Manty on Jan 12, 2023 17:21:05 GMT 1, Shame it's finished, but I understand why. Another ยฃ2M or so raised by the Banksy chap and I am sure a lot of good has been done with the sale of these and the awareness raised to Love welcomes.
Shame it's finished, but I understand why. Another ยฃ2M or so raised by the Banksy chap and I am sure a lot of good has been done with the sale of these and the awareness raised to Love welcomes.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Masong on Jan 12, 2023 17:21:55 GMT 1, I was buying those under cost for the last 2 yearsโฆ Nice to see those going up on price So people were dropping ยฃ500 (or whatever the original cost was) on these and then selling them to you for less? I canโt see anyone selling one of these for less than cost anytime. I have seen them as low as ยฃ600 if I recall, which was pretty low.
I was buying those under cost for the last 2 yearsโฆ Nice to see those going up on price So people were dropping ยฃ500 (or whatever the original cost was) on these and then selling them to you for less? I canโt see anyone selling one of these for less than cost anytime. I have seen them as low as ยฃ600 if I recall, which was pretty low.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Lroy on Jan 12, 2023 17:24:26 GMT 1, aaaand price about to go up Money " Not Welcome, Mat " ?
Supposed to be a caritative gesture ;-) It's not a critic, You have had the courage to tell it right here, cash.
I am not an hypocrite, I know that everybody on here bought them for retirements and/or placements, as it's a Banksy..
Maybe one, bought it really to help refugees, but quite not sure.
Anyway, it's not a reproach, ti's like the conversation the other day about an artwork signed or unsigned, that it does not matter...
I would kept it in the box, in a cupboard.
First ones from GDP were genius with the bag... Very classy.
edit : Tenners at 1,5 K and more are legends.
The only one that I bought - I have the name of this cheater - for 550 quid on ebay was a fake, 12 years ago. So I don't want one anymore. Disgusted.
aaaand price about to go up Money " Not Welcome, Mat " ?
Supposed to be a caritative gesture ;-) It's not a critic, You have had the courage to tell it right here, cash.
I am not an hypocrite, I know that everybody on here bought them for retirements and/or placements, as it's a Banksy..
Maybe one, bought it really to help refugees, but quite not sure.
Anyway, it's not a reproach, ti's like the conversation the other day about an artwork signed or unsigned, that it does not matter...
I would kept it in the box, in a cupboard.
First ones from GDP were genius with the bag... Very classy.
edit : Tenners at 1,5 K and more are legends.
The only one that I bought - I have the name of this cheater - for 550 quid on ebay was a fake, 12 years ago. So I don't want one anymore. Disgusted.
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Majestic
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Majestic on Jan 12, 2023 17:27:01 GMT 1, So people were dropping ยฃ500 (or whatever the original cost was) on these and then selling them to you for less? I canโt see anyone selling one of these for less than cost anytime. I have seen them as low as ยฃ600 if I recall, which was pretty low. Yeah a quick search on ebay shows a couple sold in October for ยฃ585 and ยฃ570.
That looks like a brilliant price now.
So people were dropping ยฃ500 (or whatever the original cost was) on these and then selling them to you for less? I canโt see anyone selling one of these for less than cost anytime. I have seen them as low as ยฃ600 if I recall, which was pretty low. Yeah a quick search on ebay shows a couple sold in October for ยฃ585 and ยฃ570. That looks like a brilliant price now.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Acme Thunderer on Jan 12, 2023 17:29:41 GMT 1, I wonder how many will unsubscribe the next E-shot from Love Welcomes when it comes out?
I wonder how many will unsubscribe the next E-shot from Love Welcomes when it comes out?
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Pawel
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Pawel on Jan 12, 2023 17:29:53 GMT 1, Spray cans and cushions would be in another league for sure , I think the mat is better than the box set , better than any poster , betters than the tenners , somewhere there behind the shirts and cushions , then unsigned prints , something like that right Sounds about right.
Edit:Cushions cans and t shirts might be higher. Aren't they hand-finished?
Spray cans and cushions would be in another league for sure , I think the mat is better than the box set , better than any poster , betters than the tenners , somewhere there behind the shirts and cushions , then unsigned prints , something like that right Sounds about right. Edit:Cushions cans and t shirts might be higher. Aren't they hand-finished?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Matt 2 ttaM on Jan 12, 2023 17:33:46 GMT 1, These were a cool release! Got one at source and on the dangling portion of the โeโ mine actually has the zipper head on there!
I am sure prices will go up on these slightly and I feel they will sit. Thereโs been so many opportunities to buy them at a decent price and now with the recession and slump in Bโs prices, I donโt think there will be too much real demand on these welcome mats for at least the next few years.
These were a cool release! Got one at source and on the dangling portion of the โeโ mine actually has the zipper head on there!
I am sure prices will go up on these slightly and I feel they will sit. Thereโs been so many opportunities to buy them at a decent price and now with the recession and slump in Bโs prices, I donโt think there will be too much real demand on these welcome mats for at least the next few years.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by zoomrider on Jan 12, 2023 17:35:08 GMT 1, Spray cans and cushions would be in another league for sure , I think the mat is better than the box set , better than any poster , betters than the tenners , somewhere there behind the shirts and cushions , then unsigned prints , something like that right Interesting! Speculatively, where does that put it by your estimation (roughly - in future)? ยฃ2000 ish?
Spray cans and cushions would be in another league for sure , I think the mat is better than the box set , better than any poster , betters than the tenners , somewhere there behind the shirts and cushions , then unsigned prints , something like that right Interesting! Speculatively, where does that put it by your estimation (roughly - in future)? ยฃ2000 ish?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Matt on Jan 12, 2023 17:38:10 GMT 1, seminal Banksy :
simplicity of medium vs. profundity of topic
tongue in cheek humour highlighting inequality and human suffering
seminal Banksy :
simplicity of medium vs. profundity of topic
tongue in cheek humour highlighting inequality and human suffering
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Black Wolf on Jan 12, 2023 17:43:57 GMT 1, aaaand price about to go up Money " Not Welcome, Mat " ?
Supposed to be a caritative gesture ;-) It's not a critic, You have had the courage to tell it right here, cash.
I am not an hypocrite, I know that everybody on here bought them for retirements and/or placements, as it's a Banksy..
Maybe one, bought it really to help refugees, but quite not sure.
Anyway, it's not a reproach, ti's like the conversation the other day about an artwork signed or unsigned, that it does not matter...
I would kept it in the box, in a cupboard.
First ones from GDP were genius with the bag... Very classy.
edit : Tenners at 1,5 K and more are legends.
The only one that I bought - I have the name of this cheater - for 550 quid on ebay was a fake, 12 years ago. So I don't want one anymore. Disgusted.
Money mats indeed, I bought one years ago to flip and I'm honest about it These are such a cool Banksy piece, very affordable even now, and will go up in price now the news is out, wooohooo
aaaand price about to go up Money " Not Welcome, Mat " ?
Supposed to be a caritative gesture ;-) It's not a critic, You have had the courage to tell it right here, cash.
I am not an hypocrite, I know that everybody on here bought them for retirements and/or placements, as it's a Banksy..
Maybe one, bought it really to help refugees, but quite not sure.
Anyway, it's not a reproach, ti's like the conversation the other day about an artwork signed or unsigned, that it does not matter...
I would kept it in the box, in a cupboard.
First ones from GDP were genius with the bag... Very classy.
edit : Tenners at 1,5 K and more are legends.
The only one that I bought - I have the name of this cheater - for 550 quid on ebay was a fake, 12 years ago. So I don't want one anymore. Disgusted.
Money mats indeed, I bought one years ago to flip and I'm honest about it These are such a cool Banksy piece, very affordable even now, and will go up in price now the news is out, wooohooo
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by buffin on Jan 12, 2023 17:45:04 GMT 1, Spray cans and cushions would be in another league for sure , I think the mat is better than the box set , better than any poster , betters than the tenners , somewhere there behind the shirts and cushions , then unsigned prints , something like that right Sounds about right. Edit:Cushions cans and t shirts might be higher. Aren't they hand-finished? As are the mats.
Spray cans and cushions would be in another league for sure , I think the mat is better than the box set , better than any poster , betters than the tenners , somewhere there behind the shirts and cushions , then unsigned prints , something like that right Sounds about right. Edit:Cushions cans and t shirts might be higher. Aren't they hand-finished? As are the mats.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by nick42 on Jan 12, 2023 17:46:12 GMT 1, Jumped on the email list for these pretty early on. Never got the email to purchase, but never pursued one on the secondary market either as I just planned to purchase directly from LW, one day. Pleased to have got one off the Bay earlier this morning though seeing these posts. Always had appreciation and respect for this piece and excited to finally get it in a frame and up on the wall. Definitely a great conversation piece and socially/historically relevant B/GDP item. Must say though, the bits sand on these has always hit me pretty hard. It's definitely a heavy piece IMHO.
Jumped on the email list for these pretty early on. Never got the email to purchase, but never pursued one on the secondary market either as I just planned to purchase directly from LW, one day. Pleased to have got one off the Bay earlier this morning though seeing these posts. Always had appreciation and respect for this piece and excited to finally get it in a frame and up on the wall. Definitely a great conversation piece and socially/historically relevant B/GDP item. Must say though, the bits sand on these has always hit me pretty hard. It's definitely a heavy piece IMHO.
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