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No New Releases, by Daniel Silk on Feb 20, 2007 15:38:11 GMT 1, This is the ONLY question worth asking. ;D I got a Jimi at the Ghetto and its numbered out of just 100, and the Sid is out of 200 both unsigned (ain't got the money for signed)
Stupid me! I only got the Jimi & Sid and not the Elvis It just looked at bit plain compared to the other two
This is the ONLY question worth asking. ;D I got a Jimi at the Ghetto and its numbered out of just 100, and the Sid is out of 200 both unsigned (ain't got the money for signed) Stupid me! I only got the Jimi & Sid and not the Elvis It just looked at bit plain compared to the other two
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No New Releases, by corblimeylimey on Feb 20, 2007 15:39:16 GMT 1, but its not may the fastest finger win, if they said 'this week we will be putting up for sale banksy's trollies on 21/02/07 at 13.00' then it would be fastest finger first but at the moment its luck of the draw if your by your computer when they come up or if you can afford to sit by your computer 24/7! i'm all for first come first served but for that you need to confirm when it will be released and stick to it. even if they said it would be released for sure on the 21/2/07 then at lease you would have a reasonable 12 hour period where it would be released!
hear hear
but its not may the fastest finger win, if they said 'this week we will be putting up for sale banksy's trollies on 21/02/07 at 13.00' then it would be fastest finger first but at the moment its luck of the draw if your by your computer when they come up or if you can afford to sit by your computer 24/7! i'm all for first come first served but for that you need to confirm when it will be released and stick to it. even if they said it would be released for sure on the 21/2/07 then at lease you would have a reasonable 12 hour period where it would be released! hear hear
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No New Releases, by johnas on Feb 20, 2007 15:41:50 GMT 1, i think we're seeing the lottery system there's been so much speculation about. At least we know where we stand
it's great marketing at the end of the day... generate loads of speculation and word of mouth --> build the excitment --> keep people guessing --> create panic buying --> count the cash!
i think we're seeing the lottery system there's been so much speculation about. At least we know where we stand it's great marketing at the end of the day... generate loads of speculation and word of mouth --> build the excitment --> keep people guessing --> create panic buying --> count the cash!
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Curley
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No New Releases, by Curley on Feb 20, 2007 15:43:30 GMT 1, I think POW feel the prints are 'consumed' by a 'core' few. And would like to see prints purchased by new customers. Discuss....
If they wanted to do that they should put all 4 Banksy prints up for sale at the same time and only allow you to buy one of the 4. That way you get they sell to 2,600 different punters - almost enough for everyone on this site to get one. Or maybe its so hyped that there is not 2600 different people to buy them.
I think POW feel the prints are 'consumed' by a 'core' few. And would like to see prints purchased by new customers. Discuss.... If they wanted to do that they should put all 4 Banksy prints up for sale at the same time and only allow you to buy one of the 4. That way you get they sell to 2,600 different punters - almost enough for everyone on this site to get one. Or maybe its so hyped that there is not 2600 different people to buy them.
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CR
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No New Releases, by CR on Feb 20, 2007 15:44:53 GMT 1, i think we're seeing the lottery system there's been so much speculation about. At least we know where we stand it's great marketing at the end of the day... generate loads of speculation and word of mouth --> build the excitment --> keep people guessing --> create panic buying --> count the cash!
but they don't need to CREATE panic buying, those 5 prints would have sold out whatever - all they have done is made people feel frustrated because they cant be on their compy 24/7
i think we're seeing the lottery system there's been so much speculation about. At least we know where we stand it's great marketing at the end of the day... generate loads of speculation and word of mouth --> build the excitment --> keep people guessing --> create panic buying --> count the cash! but they don't need to CREATE panic buying, those 5 prints would have sold out whatever - all they have done is made people feel frustrated because they cant be on their compy 24/7
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 15:46:03 GMT 1, I think POW feel the prints are 'consumed' by a 'core' few. And would like to see prints purchased by new customers. Discuss.... If they wanted to do that they should put all 4 Banksy prints up for sale at the same time and only allow you to buy one of the 4. That way you get they sell to 2,600 different punters - almost enough for everyone on this site to get one. Or maybe its so hyped that there is not 2600 different people to buy them.
Its a possibility - Remember Banksy flags - 1000 prints sold in a few hours... And those were the 'few' that could get to the ghetto on the day....
Over the net we can ALL get to POW...
I think this would be the fairest way - But it'd be a bugger if you missed out...
EDIT: Just noticed Bugger got through the 'swear-momitor'..
I think POW feel the prints are 'consumed' by a 'core' few. And would like to see prints purchased by new customers. Discuss.... If they wanted to do that they should put all 4 Banksy prints up for sale at the same time and only allow you to buy one of the 4. That way you get they sell to 2,600 different punters - almost enough for everyone on this site to get one. Or maybe its so hyped that there is not 2600 different people to buy them. Its a possibility - Remember Banksy flags - 1000 prints sold in a few hours... And those were the 'few' that could get to the ghetto on the day.... Over the net we can ALL get to POW... I think this would be the fairest way - But it'd be a bugger if you missed out... EDIT: Just noticed Bugger got through the 'swear-momitor'..
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frank11
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No New Releases, by frank11 on Feb 20, 2007 15:47:20 GMT 1, but its not may the fastest finger win, if they said 'this week we will be putting up for sale banksy's trollies on 21/02/07 at 13.00' then it would be fastest finger first but at the moment its luck of the draw if your by your computer when they come up or if you can afford to sit by your computer 24/7! i'm all for first come first served but for that you need to confirm when it will be released and stick to it. even if they said it would be released for sure on the 21/2/07 then at lease you would have a reasonable 12 hour period where it would be released! I have beeen sitting on computer 24/7 and still missed out!!!
but its not may the fastest finger win, if they said 'this week we will be putting up for sale banksy's trollies on 21/02/07 at 13.00' then it would be fastest finger first but at the moment its luck of the draw if your by your computer when they come up or if you can afford to sit by your computer 24/7! i'm all for first come first served but for that you need to confirm when it will be released and stick to it. even if they said it would be released for sure on the 21/2/07 then at lease you would have a reasonable 12 hour period where it would be released! I have beeen sitting on computer 24/7 and still missed out!!!
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afwi
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No New Releases, by afwi on Feb 20, 2007 15:47:43 GMT 1, May the fastest win, no problem with that. But the clients are divided in two categories and this applies to POW as well as to galleries: the collectors, the ones, new or present "from the beginning" - it's not easy to be everywhere at the beginning, chance has often something to do with it - that buy for their walls & peace of mind and so on and the others who buy for immediate resell and profit. POW needs - and have - both of them. But the goals are differents.
May the fastest win, no problem with that. But the clients are divided in two categories and this applies to POW as well as to galleries: the collectors, the ones, new or present "from the beginning" - it's not easy to be everywhere at the beginning, chance has often something to do with it - that buy for their walls & peace of mind and so on and the others who buy for immediate resell and profit. POW needs - and have - both of them. But the goals are differents.
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CR
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No New Releases, by CR on Feb 20, 2007 15:49:14 GMT 1, If they wanted to do that they should put all 4 Banksy prints up for sale at the same time and only allow you to buy one of the 4. That way you get they sell to 2,600 different punters - almost enough for everyone on this site to get one. Or maybe its so hyped that there is not 2600 different people to buy them. Its a possibility - Remember Banksy flags - 1000 prints sold in a few hours... And those were the 'few' that could get to the ghetto on the day.... Over the net we can ALL get to POW... I think this would be the fairest way - But it'd be a bugger if you missed out... EDIT: Just noticed Bugger got through the 'swear-momitor'..
I totally agree except with flags everyone had at least 4 days notice and new what was happening! If they did this then great - bring it on.
but to just put it up on the site with no prior warning, now that theyve spent all this money on a new checkout system sucks!!!
If they wanted to do that they should put all 4 Banksy prints up for sale at the same time and only allow you to buy one of the 4. That way you get they sell to 2,600 different punters - almost enough for everyone on this site to get one. Or maybe its so hyped that there is not 2600 different people to buy them. Its a possibility - Remember Banksy flags - 1000 prints sold in a few hours... And those were the 'few' that could get to the ghetto on the day.... Over the net we can ALL get to POW... I think this would be the fairest way - But it'd be a bugger if you missed out... EDIT: Just noticed Bugger got through the 'swear-momitor'.. I totally agree except with flags everyone had at least 4 days notice and new what was happening! If they did this then great - bring it on. but to just put it up on the site with no prior warning, now that theyve spent all this money on a new checkout system sucks!!!
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 15:49:48 GMT 1, OK - IF you could only buy one of the Banksy's what would it be...
OK - IF you could only buy one of the Banksy's what would it be...
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stylus
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No New Releases, by stylus on Feb 20, 2007 15:50:22 GMT 1, I think in summary, there's no way the everyone can be pleased in this scenario. I'm fairly confident in saying that there are more customers demanding the prints than there are prints available. It's as simple as that - no matter what sales approach is taken, some of the buying public will always miss out.
Here's a question: If they printed 5000 copies of every print. Would you still want them as much?
(for what it's worth, I'm undecided on my answer to this)
I think in summary, there's no way the everyone can be pleased in this scenario. I'm fairly confident in saying that there are more customers demanding the prints than there are prints available. It's as simple as that - no matter what sales approach is taken, some of the buying public will always miss out.
Here's a question: If they printed 5000 copies of every print. Would you still want them as much?
(for what it's worth, I'm undecided on my answer to this)
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JockoLad
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No New Releases, by JockoLad on Feb 20, 2007 15:51:11 GMT 1, Sounds like sour grapes to me. Cheer up you lot, it' only an art print after all! There are worse things in life to worry about. I'm annoyed also with the whole situation but hey, you win some, you lose some.
You goons!
Anyways, I'd best be off - got five new items to list on eBay........JOKE!
Cheer up chaps, there's always tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day...............
Sounds like sour grapes to me. Cheer up you lot, it' only an art print after all! There are worse things in life to worry about. I'm annoyed also with the whole situation but hey, you win some, you lose some.
You goons!
Anyways, I'd best be off - got five new items to list on eBay........JOKE!
Cheer up chaps, there's always tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day...............
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No New Releases, by stylus on Feb 20, 2007 15:51:28 GMT 1, Of the remaining 4, my choice would be Morons. Sale Ends would be a close second.
OK - IF you could only buy one of the Banksy's what would it be...
Of the remaining 4, my choice would be Morons. Sale Ends would be a close second. OK - IF you could only buy one of the Banksy's what would it be...
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No New Releases, by Daniel Silk on Feb 20, 2007 15:52:25 GMT 1, i think we're seeing the lottery system there's been so much speculation about. At least we know where we stand it's great marketing at the end of the day... generate loads of speculation and word of mouth --> build the excitment --> keep people guessing --> create panic buying --> count the cash!
Spot on! ;D
i think we're seeing the lottery system there's been so much speculation about. At least we know where we stand it's great marketing at the end of the day... generate loads of speculation and word of mouth --> build the excitment --> keep people guessing --> create panic buying --> count the cash! Spot on! ;D
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No New Releases, by goffy on Feb 20, 2007 15:52:38 GMT 1, Trolley Hunters
Trolley Hunters
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 15:53:21 GMT 1, Sounds like sour grapes to me. Cheer up you lot, it' only an art print after all! There are worse things in life to worry about. I'm annoyed also with the whole situation but hey, you win some, you lose some. You goons! Anyways, I'd best be off - got five new items to list on eBay........JOKE! Cheer up chaps, there's always tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day...............
Like the way you started a new ID...
Sounds like sour grapes to me. Cheer up you lot, it' only an art print after all! There are worse things in life to worry about. I'm annoyed also with the whole situation but hey, you win some, you lose some. You goons! Anyways, I'd best be off - got five new items to list on eBay........JOKE! Cheer up chaps, there's always tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day............... Like the way you started a new ID...
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No New Releases, by Viva Hate on Feb 20, 2007 15:54:50 GMT 1,
Well it looks like the ghetto exlusives were the dead rebels series and Lucy Mcdonalds. Anyways it looks like another eventful wait for the Banksy prints if there are any.
All the pest.
Well it looks like the ghetto exlusives were the dead rebels series and Lucy Mcdonalds. Anyways it looks like another eventful wait for the Banksy prints if there are any.
All the pest.
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No New Releases, by Daniel Silk on Feb 20, 2007 15:54:52 GMT 1, Of the remaining 4, my choice would be Morons. Sale Ends would be a close second. OK - IF you could only buy one of the Banksy's what would it be...
Trolley for me ;D I would be very happy with just that ;D
Of the remaining 4, my choice would be Morons. Sale Ends would be a close second. OK - IF you could only buy one of the Banksy's what would it be... Trolley for me ;D I would be very happy with just that ;D
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CR
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No New Releases, by CR on Feb 20, 2007 15:55:20 GMT 1, I think in summary, there's no way the everyone can be pleased in this scenario. I'm fairly confident in saying that there are more customers demanding the prints than there are prints available. It's as simple as that - no matter what sales approach is taken, some of the buying public will always miss out. Here's a question: If they printed 5000 copies of every print. Would you still want them as much? (for what it's worth, I'm undecided on my answer to this)
of course i would, perhaps not ยฃ300, but i definetly would because in the end i want to have a print, like trollies, on my wall!
I also understand that not everyone will be happy and will get one but as i keep on stating if they gave a concrete date and the payment system worked then everyone would have exactly the same prior knowledge and chance to get a print and i dont think anyone could say fairer than that.
I think in summary, there's no way the everyone can be pleased in this scenario. I'm fairly confident in saying that there are more customers demanding the prints than there are prints available. It's as simple as that - no matter what sales approach is taken, some of the buying public will always miss out. Here's a question: If they printed 5000 copies of every print. Would you still want them as much? (for what it's worth, I'm undecided on my answer to this) of course i would, perhaps not ยฃ300, but i definetly would because in the end i want to have a print, like trollies, on my wall! I also understand that not everyone will be happy and will get one but as i keep on stating if they gave a concrete date and the payment system worked then everyone would have exactly the same prior knowledge and chance to get a print and i dont think anyone could say fairer than that.
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frank11
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No New Releases, by frank11 on Feb 20, 2007 15:55:21 GMT 1, OK - IF you could only buy one of the Banksy's what would it be... Just for the memories of hour upon frustrated hour spent refreshing, it would have to be Trollies for me
OK - IF you could only buy one of the Banksy's what would it be... Just for the memories of hour upon frustrated hour spent refreshing, it would have to be Trollies for me
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No New Releases, by corblimeylimey on Feb 20, 2007 15:55:22 GMT 1, Its a possibility - Remember Banksy flags - 1000 prints sold in a few hours... And those were the 'few' that could get to the ghetto on the day.... Over the net we can ALL get to POW... I think this would be the fairest way - But it'd be a bugger if you missed out... EDIT: Just noticed Bugger got through the 'swear-momitor'.. I totally agree except with flags everyone had at least 4 days notice and new what was happening! If they did this then great - bring it on. but to just put it up on the site with no prior warning, now that theyve spent all this money on a new checkout system sucks!!!
I nearly didn't bother traveling to London for the Flag release, as I thought it could be a big let down, a long and expensive journey just to be told that it maybe tomorrow.
Its a possibility - Remember Banksy flags - 1000 prints sold in a few hours... And those were the 'few' that could get to the ghetto on the day.... Over the net we can ALL get to POW... I think this would be the fairest way - But it'd be a bugger if you missed out... EDIT: Just noticed Bugger got through the 'swear-momitor'.. I totally agree except with flags everyone had at least 4 days notice and new what was happening! If they did this then great - bring it on. but to just put it up on the site with no prior warning, now that theyve spent all this money on a new checkout system sucks!!! I nearly didn't bother traveling to London for the Flag release, as I thought it could be a big let down, a long and expensive journey just to be told that it maybe tomorrow.
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Curley
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No New Releases, by Curley on Feb 20, 2007 15:56:25 GMT 1, It is true that galleries organize private viewings, which is unfair for the rest of the world. But they know who is buying and have a way of controlling - to a certain extent - the second market. The clients invited to these viewings cannot resell as soon as the show has ended or they will not have access to this "primary source" for a long time. And some galleries request that clients concludes a no resell contract.
POW is a mail order print company not a Gallery
It is true that galleries organize private viewings, which is unfair for the rest of the world. But they know who is buying and have a way of controlling - to a certain extent - the second market. The clients invited to these viewings cannot resell as soon as the show has ended or they will not have access to this "primary source" for a long time. And some galleries request that clients concludes a no resell contract. POW is a mail order print company not a Gallery
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stylus
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No New Releases, by stylus on Feb 20, 2007 15:59:32 GMT 1, It looks like Trolley Hunters will be popular.
So... which would be your least favourite?
It looks like Trolley Hunters will be popular.
So... which would be your least favourite?
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 15:59:43 GMT 1, I totally agree except with flags everyone had at least 4 days notice and new what was happening! If they did this then great - bring it on. but to just put it up on the site with no prior warning, now that theyve spent all this money on a new checkout system sucks!!! I nearly didn't bother traveling to London for the Flag release, as I thought it could be a big let down, a long and expensive journey just to be told that it maybe tomorrow.
I was there the Thursday prior - A bit disappointing, interesting stuff had sold out and Dead rebels were to be restocked the following morning. I couldn't come back into London the following Monday on the odd chance I'd secure a Banksy. Besides the 200 mile round trip was another factor.
I totally agree except with flags everyone had at least 4 days notice and new what was happening! If they did this then great - bring it on. but to just put it up on the site with no prior warning, now that theyve spent all this money on a new checkout system sucks!!! I nearly didn't bother traveling to London for the Flag release, as I thought it could be a big let down, a long and expensive journey just to be told that it maybe tomorrow. I was there the Thursday prior - A bit disappointing, interesting stuff had sold out and Dead rebels were to be restocked the following morning. I couldn't come back into London the following Monday on the odd chance I'd secure a Banksy. Besides the 200 mile round trip was another factor.
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No New Releases, by corblimeylimey on Feb 20, 2007 16:00:11 GMT 1, Out of the remaining LA prints I only want Trolley Hunting.
I'm getting dรฉjร vu it's like a replay of three months ago.
Out of the remaining LA prints I only want Trolley Hunting.
I'm getting dรฉjร vu it's like a replay of three months ago.
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CR
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No New Releases, by CR on Feb 20, 2007 16:02:32 GMT 1, I nearly didn't bother traveling to London for the Flag release, as I thought it could be a big let down, a long and expensive journey just to be told that it maybe tomorrow. I was there the Thursday prior - A bit disappointing, interesting stuff had sold out and Dead rebels were to be restocked the following morning. I couldn't come back into London the following Monday on the odd chance I'd secure a Banksy. Besides the 200 mile round trip was another factor.
I was their on the thur prior too and couldnt justify making the round trip back on mon but ultimatly i accepted that because like everyone else i had been given the information which allowed me to make a decision as to whether or not i wanted to.
thats the big difference i see - its giving everyone the information to allow them to make an informed decision as to what they do or dont want to do.
I nearly didn't bother traveling to London for the Flag release, as I thought it could be a big let down, a long and expensive journey just to be told that it maybe tomorrow. I was there the Thursday prior - A bit disappointing, interesting stuff had sold out and Dead rebels were to be restocked the following morning. I couldn't come back into London the following Monday on the odd chance I'd secure a Banksy. Besides the 200 mile round trip was another factor. I was their on the thur prior too and couldnt justify making the round trip back on mon but ultimatly i accepted that because like everyone else i had been given the information which allowed me to make a decision as to whether or not i wanted to. thats the big difference i see - its giving everyone the information to allow them to make an informed decision as to what they do or dont want to do.
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No New Releases, by bldouble on Feb 20, 2007 16:02:36 GMT 1, The people who lose out are the ones who listen to what POW have said. Even if they were trying to stop the site from going down it doesn't justify blatant lieing to potential customers about wether prints are going to be released or not.
The people who lose out are the ones who listen to what POW have said. Even if they were trying to stop the site from going down it doesn't justify blatant lieing to potential customers about wether prints are going to be released or not.
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No New Releases, by ambasidor on Feb 20, 2007 16:03:11 GMT 1, I think we should go and storm POW HQ......
I think we should go and storm POW HQ......
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No New Releases, by mcnuts on Feb 20, 2007 16:04:20 GMT 1, Of the printable LA lot..... Trollies... in colour.
Of the printable LA lot..... Trollies... in colour.
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Viva Hate
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No New Releases, by Viva Hate on Feb 20, 2007 16:05:55 GMT 1, From past experience I think people would much rather use there own judgement when prints are released, which seems to work for ones self.
From past experience I think people would much rather use there own judgement when prints are released, which seems to work for ones self.
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