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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Arty Farty 15 on Feb 28, 2020 9:36:23 GMT 1, Just remember. The same people who give investment advice here are the ones who flip posters and postcards for extra cash.
Haha so true. People that put framed postcards on their walls telling people what to put in their portfolios.
Just remember. The same people who give investment advice here are the ones who flip posters and postcards for extra cash. Haha so true. People that put framed postcards on their walls telling people what to put in their portfolios. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 9:48:00 GMT 1, I personally have stopped buying .. all extra cash will go towards dry powder to buy equities and other rock bottom opportunities (what those are, i am not sure yet). I flipped houses during the recession, bought silver , gold and diamonds during that same time. I like panic
Tried to buy a bottle yesterday and seems there is a shortage. Looked on Amazon and 6 small bottles nearly ยฃ60!!
crazy.
I personally have stopped buying .. all extra cash will go towards dry powder to buy equities and other rock bottom opportunities (what those are, i am not sure yet). I flipped houses during the recession, bought silver , gold and diamonds during that same time. I like panic How many bottles of antibacterial hand gel have you bought? Tried to buy a bottle yesterday and seems there is a shortage. Looked on Amazon and 6 small bottles nearly ยฃ60!! crazy. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Feb 28, 2020 10:40:37 GMT 1, I'm going to share my gripe about coronavirus reporting. I wish they would refer to active cases rather than grand totals, it would be less alarmist. Saying there are 15 cases in the UK when 8 are reportedly better is misleading. Rather than 84k cases, there are apparently closer to 45k live cases, and 37k have recovered (3k unfortunately have died).
This website seems to show all the stats, I can't verify the accuracy but obviously people are recovering not only getting sick.
(https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/)
I'm going to share my gripe about coronavirus reporting. I wish they would refer to active cases rather than grand totals, it would be less alarmist. Saying there are 15 cases in the UK when 8 are reportedly better is misleading. Rather than 84k cases, there are apparently closer to 45k live cases, and 37k have recovered (3k unfortunately have died).
This website seems to show all the stats, I can't verify the accuracy but obviously people are recovering not only getting sick.
(https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/)
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 11:03:34 GMT 1,
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by John The Badgers on Feb 28, 2020 14:35:43 GMT 1, A classic watch right there, forgot how funny those movies are.
A classic watch right there, forgot how funny those movies are. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by cest on Feb 28, 2020 18:00:00 GMT 1, I personally have stopped buying .. all extra cash will go towards dry powder to buy equities and other rock bottom opportunities (what those are, i am not sure yet). I flipped houses during the recession, bought silver , gold and diamonds during that same time. I like panic Congratulations on winning the race to the bottom of the pile. Youโre an even lower quality human being than first thought, which is really saying something.
Don't care ... And you're wrong, you saying something doesn't matter to anyone.
I mean it's obvious that you don't mind making huge profits off of hard working people's backs, since you're selling tenners for infinitely more than you received them , that is since you imply you're part of the old Banksy crew.
I personally have stopped buying .. all extra cash will go towards dry powder to buy equities and other rock bottom opportunities (what those are, i am not sure yet). I flipped houses during the recession, bought silver , gold and diamonds during that same time. I like panic Congratulations on winning the race to the bottom of the pile. Youโre an even lower quality human being than first thought, which is really saying something. Don't care ... And you're wrong, you saying something doesn't matter to anyone. I mean it's obvious that you don't mind making huge profits off of hard working people's backs, since you're selling tenners for infinitely more than you received them , that is since you imply you're part of the old Banksy crew. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by nobokov on Feb 28, 2020 18:00:31 GMT 1, I personally have stopped buying .. all extra cash will go towards dry powder to buy equities and other rock bottom opportunities (what those are, i am not sure yet). I flipped houses during the recession, bought silver , gold and diamonds during that same time. I like panic Congratulations on winning the race to the bottom of the pile. Youโre an even lower quality human being than first thought, which is really saying something.
Why berate the person for being smart?
I personally have stopped buying .. all extra cash will go towards dry powder to buy equities and other rock bottom opportunities (what those are, i am not sure yet). I flipped houses during the recession, bought silver , gold and diamonds during that same time. I like panic Congratulations on winning the race to the bottom of the pile. Youโre an even lower quality human being than first thought, which is really saying something. Why berate the person for being smart? |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Feb 29, 2020 14:37:54 GMT 1, I'm rather more concerned about my dodgy lungs and becoming dead than how much money I can make off the back of other peoples misery.
I'm rather more concerned about my dodgy lungs and becoming dead than how much money I can make off the back of other peoples misery.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Feb 29, 2020 19:03:19 GMT 1, That's the thing. It won't affect most people financially and if speculators and traders go bust. Who really cares. It will affect the elderly and people with health problems and will affect people on low incomes the most if cases emerge in communities.
That's the thing. It won't affect most people financially and if speculators and traders go bust. Who really cares. It will affect the elderly and people with health problems and will affect people on low incomes the most if cases emerge in communities.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Feb 29, 2020 20:44:32 GMT 1, Boris Johnson needs another three days off before holding an emergency COBRA meeting. It must be exhausting caring that little.
The "emergency" COBRA meeting and 1000's of peoples houses floating in excrement can jolly well wait.
link
Boris Johnson needs another three days off before holding an emergency COBRA meeting. It must be exhausting caring that little. He's been very busy impregnating yet another women to add to the list, as well as speeding through his divorce from one of his other wives (so as it didn't clash). Divorce Friday new kid announcement Saturday. The "emergency" COBRA meeting and 1000's of peoples houses floating in excrement can jolly well wait. link
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Coach on Feb 29, 2020 21:07:16 GMT 1, Boris Johnson needs another three days off before holding an emergency COBRA meeting. It must be exhausting caring that little. He's been very busy impregnating yet another women to add to the list, as well as speeding through his divorce from one of his other wives (so as it didn't clash). ย Divorce Friday new kid announcement Saturday. ย The "emergency" COBRA meeting and 1000's of peoples houses floating in excrement can jolly well wait. ย link
Thank you for that link.
I have a lot of time for Rory Stewart.
Itโs worth taking the time to read some of his achievements.
He is an impressive man.
Boris Johnson needs another three days off before holding an emergency COBRA meeting. It must be exhausting caring that little. He's been very busy impregnating yet another women to add to the list, as well as speeding through his divorce from one of his other wives (so as it didn't clash). ย Divorce Friday new kid announcement Saturday. ย The "emergency" COBRA meeting and 1000's of peoples houses floating in excrement can jolly well wait. ย link
Thank you for that link. I have a lot of time for Rory Stewart. Itโs worth taking the time to read some of his achievements. He is an impressive man. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Feb 29, 2020 21:09:34 GMT 1, It should have zero impact on anything, the panic and reaction will be far worse than the virus. 60-80,000 people die every year from seasonal flu and that is not publicised. 3,000 deaths out of 7 billion+ is a drop in the ocean and the reaction is completely disproportionate. The press need a new crisis to get people to tune in.
It should have zero impact on anything, the panic and reaction will be far worse than the virus. 60-80,000 people die every year from seasonal flu and that is not publicised. 3,000 deaths out of 7 billion+ is a drop in the ocean and the reaction is completely disproportionate. The press need a new crisis to get people to tune in.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Feb 29, 2020 21:14:33 GMT 1, He's been very busy impregnating yet another women to add to the list, as well as speeding through his divorce from one of his other wives (so as it didn't clash). Divorce Friday new kid announcement Saturday. The "emergency" COBRA meeting and 1000's of peoples houses floating in excrement can jolly well wait. link
Thank you for that link. I have a lot of time for Rory Stewart. Itโs worth taking the time to read some of his achievements. He is an impressive man.
He's been very busy impregnating yet another women to add to the list, as well as speeding through his divorce from one of his other wives (so as it didn't clash). Divorce Friday new kid announcement Saturday. The "emergency" COBRA meeting and 1000's of peoples houses floating in excrement can jolly well wait. link
Thank you for that link. I have a lot of time for Rory Stewart. Itโs worth taking the time to read some of his achievements. He is an impressive man. A socialist trapped inside the body of a Tory. I heard he was recently offering to meet his constituents by sleeping over on their sofa's. He's definitely a tad eccentric and possibly way too nice to be in politics. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Coach on Feb 29, 2020 21:16:33 GMT 1, Thank you for that link. I have a lot of time for Rory Stewart. Itโs worth taking the time to read some of his achievements. He is an impressive man. ย A socialist trapped inside the body of a Tory. ย I heard he was recently offering to meet his constituents by sleeping over on their sofa's. ย He's definitely a tad eccentric and possibly way too nice to be in politics. ย
Yes, I read that too. Iโll kip on your sofa so you can show me your London. Or words to that effect.
Thank you for that link. I have a lot of time for Rory Stewart. Itโs worth taking the time to read some of his achievements. He is an impressive man. ย A socialist trapped inside the body of a Tory. ย I heard he was recently offering to meet his constituents by sleeping over on their sofa's. ย He's definitely a tad eccentric and possibly way too nice to be in politics. ย Yes, I read that too. Iโll kip on your sofa so you can show me your London. Or words to that effect. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by racket on Feb 29, 2020 22:09:08 GMT 1, Thank you for that link. I have a lot of time for Rory Stewart. Itโs worth taking the time to read some of his achievements. He is an impressive man. ย A socialist trapped inside the body of a Tory. ย I heard he was recently offering to meet his constituents by sleeping over on their sofa's. ย He's definitely a tad eccentric and possibly way too nice to be in politics. ย
Once a tory, always a tory. Check his voting record. Sounds a gimmick to get elected as mayor. I'm sure he's a nice bloke though.
Thank you for that link. I have a lot of time for Rory Stewart. Itโs worth taking the time to read some of his achievements. He is an impressive man. ย A socialist trapped inside the body of a Tory. ย I heard he was recently offering to meet his constituents by sleeping over on their sofa's. ย He's definitely a tad eccentric and possibly way too nice to be in politics. ย Once a tory, always a tory. Check his voting record. Sounds a gimmick to get elected as mayor. I'm sure he's a nice bloke though. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Winter on Mar 1, 2020 10:02:05 GMT 1, Switzerland banning events of over 1000 people means Art Basel is looking unlikely
Switzerland banning events of over 1000 people means Art Basel is looking unlikely
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by beicoblack on Mar 1, 2020 11:05:28 GMT 1, Switzerland banning events of over 1000 people means Art Basel is looking unlikely
Iยดm not a infectious disease specialist but let's hope this virus will be dead when temperatures hit a higher level. Corona is transmitted in the same fashion as the flu and common cold: by close contact with infected people and from respiratory droplets when an infected person sneezes or coughs.
Art Basel in in June...
Switzerland banning events of over 1000 people means Art Basel is looking unlikely Those events are banned until March 14th for now and I do believe they will extend it for a certain time. Iยดm not a infectious disease specialist but let's hope this virus will be dead when temperatures hit a higher level. Corona is transmitted in the same fashion as the flu and common cold: by close contact with infected people and from respiratory droplets when an infected person sneezes or coughs. Art Basel in in June... |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Winter on Mar 1, 2020 11:13:13 GMT 1, Thing is, itโs widespread in Iran where itโs warm.
Hopefully they have a cure by June
Thing is, itโs widespread in Iran where itโs warm.
Hopefully they have a cure by June
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by trapnel1 on Mar 1, 2020 11:33:09 GMT 1, Thing is, itโs widespread in Iran where itโs warm. Hopefully they have a cure by June
Pretty cool in Tehran still at this time of year - just starting to warm up now, so we'll have to see about the temperature effect. Won't help the southern hemisphere of course ....
We may know a little more about antiviral benefit by June, but vaccine will be next winter at the earliest I would think.
Thing is, itโs widespread in Iran where itโs warm. Hopefully they have a cure by June
Pretty cool in Tehran still at this time of year - just starting to warm up now, so we'll have to see about the temperature effect. Won't help the southern hemisphere of course ....
We may know a little more about antiviral benefit by June, but vaccine will be next winter at the earliest I would think.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by racket on Mar 1, 2020 12:12:06 GMT 1, Thing is, itโs widespread in Iran where itโs warm. Hopefully they have a cure by June
There won't be any vaccination ready til next year.
Thing is, itโs widespread in Iran where itโs warm. Hopefully they have a cure by June There won't be any vaccination ready til next year. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by pellets on Mar 1, 2020 13:37:43 GMT 1, Yeah, the middle east can have the same kind of temperatures as the UK at this time of year.
Yeah, the middle east can have the same kind of temperatures as the UK at this time of year.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Stonetown on Mar 1, 2020 13:42:44 GMT 1, So far about half of all the cases reported have recovered. The news just reports the number of cases infected becaus thats what sells news. Recovered cases are trending higher than infected cases are. That's good news.
So far about half of all the cases reported have recovered. The news just reports the number of cases infected becaus thats what sells news. Recovered cases are trending higher than infected cases are. That's good news.
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Lazarus II on Mar 1, 2020 21:38:34 GMT 1, Yeah, the middle east can have the same kind of temperatures as the UK at this time of year.
its a big region, the likes of the UAE and KSA are positively tropical just now compared to Scotland even in high summer.
Yeah, the middle east can have the same kind of temperatures as the UK at this time of year. its a big region, the likes of the UAE and KSA are positively tropical just now compared to Scotland even in high summer. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Mar 1, 2020 21:39:33 GMT 1, What this virus will do or is doing.. it is giving governments the perfect excuse for why their economy is doings**t. This will keep the muppets in charge but could put a few countries in recession, global recession? Maybe? Germany was on the brink of recession before Xmas, here in Australia also.
So weโll see what happens end of next quarter.. doubt it will affect high end art purchases? it may affect cheaper art (people buying from artist on ebAy Etsy and instagram etc..) as people will lose jobs, have their hours cut etc.. also Retail is down, car sales down etc.also people are tightening up and not spending and trying to pay of their debt as interest rate levels are the lowest theyโve ever been worldwide, so this hits the economy also..
Our family has been doing this the past few years, cutting back and paying off debt. I enjoy reading blogs on be FIRE movement... The plan is debt free early in life and retire early ๐๐
What this virus will do or is doing.. it is giving governments the perfect excuse for why their economy is doings**t. This will keep the muppets in charge but could put a few countries in recession, global recession? Maybe? Germany was on the brink of recession before Xmas, here in Australia also.
So weโll see what happens end of next quarter.. doubt it will affect high end art purchases? it may affect cheaper art (people buying from artist on ebAy Etsy and instagram etc..) as people will lose jobs, have their hours cut etc.. also Retail is down, car sales down etc.also people are tightening up and not spending and trying to pay of their debt as interest rate levels are the lowest theyโve ever been worldwide, so this hits the economy also..
Our family has been doing this the past few years, cutting back and paying off debt. I enjoy reading blogs on be FIRE movement... The plan is debt free early in life and retire early ๐๐
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by pellets on Mar 1, 2020 21:41:53 GMT 1, Yeah, the middle east can have the same kind of temperatures as the UK at this time of year. its a big region, the likes of the UAE and KSA are positively tropical just now compared to Scotland even in high summer.
I was in Riyadh in Jan and there was frost in the ground on a couple of mornings. Blew my mind.
But yeah, huge region and defo a different ball game than Scotland
Yeah, the middle east can have the same kind of temperatures as the UK at this time of year. its a big region, the likes of the UAE and KSA are positively tropical just now compared to Scotland even in high summer. I was in Riyadh in Jan and there was frost in the ground on a couple of mornings. Blew my mind. But yeah, huge region and defo a different ball game than Scotland |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Mar 1, 2020 21:49:46 GMT 1, It should have zero impact on anything, the panic and reaction will be far worse than the virus. 60-80,000 people die every year from seasonal flu and that is not publicised. 3,000 deaths out of 7 billion+ is a drop in the ocean and the reaction is completely disproportionate. The press need a new crisis to get people to tune in. The case fatality rate - the proportion of cases that are fatal - of coronavirus has (so far) been just over 2%, thatโs 20 times the fatality rate of seasonal flu.
It should have zero impact on anything, the panic and reaction will be far worse than the virus. 60-80,000 people die every year from seasonal flu and that is not publicised. 3,000 deaths out of 7 billion+ is a drop in the ocean and the reaction is completely disproportionate. The press need a new crisis to get people to tune in. The case fatality rate - the proportion of cases that are fatal - of coronavirus has (so far) been just over 2%, thatโs 20 times the fatality rate of seasonal flu. You are basing that on reported cases, there are probably double or triple the number of unreported cases where people suffer only mild symptoms. From what the experts are saying the true mortality rates are likely less than 1% for Carona. Seasonal flu is around 0.2% or 2 in 1000 however itโs hard to know the accuracy as many flu deaths of adults are unrecorded. Trust me this is all unnecessary panic and the reaction is far worse than the consequences of the virus, itโs going to cost trillions. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Lazarus II on Mar 1, 2020 22:03:38 GMT 1, its a big region, the likes of the UAE and KSA are positively tropical just now compared to Scotland even in high summer. I was in Riyadh in Jan and there was frost in the ground on a couple of mornings. Blew my mind. But yeah, huge region and defo a different ball game than Scotland
funny enough i had the โpleasureโ of working and living in Riyadh for a couple of years in the mid 90โs, a very different place than what it is today and its hardly Las Vegas now ๐
It could be cold in the mornings in winter but still Factor 50 required for all Scotsman during the day in January !
its a big region, the likes of the UAE and KSA are positively tropical just now compared to Scotland even in high summer. I was in Riyadh in Jan and there was frost in the ground on a couple of mornings. Blew my mind. But yeah, huge region and defo a different ball game than Scotland funny enough i had the โpleasureโ of working and living in Riyadh for a couple of years in the mid 90โs, a very different place than what it is today and its hardly Las Vegas now ๐ It could be cold in the mornings in winter but still Factor 50 required for all Scotsman during the day in January ! |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 1, 2020 22:05:25 GMT 1, ffs folks get a grip lv90210 "sold out" posts would do more damage than the virus
ffs folks get a grip lv90210 "sold out" posts would do more damage than the virus
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by LJCal on Mar 1, 2020 22:41:11 GMT 1, You are basing that on reported cases, there are probably double or triple the number of unreported cases where people suffer only mild symptoms. From what the experts are saying the true mortality rates are likely less than 1% for Carona. Seasonal flu is around 0.2% or 2 in 1000 however itโs hard to know the accuracy as many flu deaths of adults are unrecorded. Trust me this is all unnecessary panic and the reaction is far worse than the consequences of the virus, itโs going to cost trillions. I was quoting an expert, epidemics expert Dr Jonathan Quick, former chair of the Global Health Council, speaking only today. Funnily enough, he went on to define one of the real dangers at this point in time - people who remain unconvinced or unaware of the potential danger this virus poses. Iโm no merchant of doom - I take information from experts, not from news media, nor from people on art forums who say โtrust meโ - but itโs critical to disseminate dispassionate, evidence-based information and not to mislead the population.
You are basing that on reported cases, there are probably double or triple the number of unreported cases where people suffer only mild symptoms. From what the experts are saying the true mortality rates are likely less than 1% for Carona. Seasonal flu is around 0.2% or 2 in 1000 however itโs hard to know the accuracy as many flu deaths of adults are unrecorded. Trust me this is all unnecessary panic and the reaction is far worse than the consequences of the virus, itโs going to cost trillions. I was quoting an expert, epidemics expert Dr Jonathan Quick, former chair of the Global Health Council, speaking only today. Funnily enough, he went on to define one of the real dangers at this point in time - people who remain unconvinced or unaware of the potential danger this virus poses. Iโm no merchant of doom - I take information from experts, not from news media, nor from people on art forums who say โtrust meโ - but itโs critical to disseminate dispassionate, evidence-based information and not to mislead the population. That guy has been working his whole life towards this, itโs what makes him relevant he doesnโt care if his advice costs peopleโs jobs or harms peopleโs prospects. โExpertsโ often twist facts to suit their own agendas and the layman take them on their word without any kind of critical thinking. The fact is worldwide estimates are between 200,000-500,000 die from flu each season, how come each of those deaths are not given a running commentary? Or when someone dies from HIV or malaria there isnโt a globally publicised up to the minute death toll for these illnesses. |
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