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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by wrigs on Mar 27, 2020 23:13:15 GMT 1, I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities.
Tell that to the NHS staff on the front line right now or maybe share your views with some of the residents of Northern Italy and see if they share your views on this one
Hopefully given it wonโt impact you youโre helping others it might
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Tell that to the NHS staff on the front line right now or maybe share your views with some of the residents of Northern Italy and see if they share your views on this one Hopefully given it wonโt impact you youโre helping others it might |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 27, 2020 23:20:48 GMT 1, I see through the one or two on here whose agenda is to shout racist at every opportunity in order to prevent people from posting. It's an old trick and they do it to attack the messenger not the message. Calling covid the "Chinese" virus is racist they say but referring to the "Spanish" flu which killed millions is not. Hypocrits. As ever with racism, I fear its about the intention of the user rather than the words themselves that are racist.
Posts that say that people post links to dubious information without specifying which link exactly with proof it is dubious or made up info is used to put people off taking all the links that are posted seriously.
Basically what I see on here is people shouting racist simply because someone uses the word Chinese.
I see through the one or two on here whose agenda is to shout racist at every opportunity in order to prevent people from posting. It's an old trick and they do it to attack the messenger not the message. Calling covid the "Chinese" virus is racist they say but referring to the "Spanish" flu which killed millions is not. Hypocrits. As ever with racism, I fear its about the intention of the user rather than the words themselves that are racist. and basically depending on ones agenda one can decide which intention is behind the words and use that to call the person a racist. Posts that say that people post links to dubious information without specifying which link exactly with proof it is dubious or made up info is used to put people off taking all the links that are posted seriously. Basically what I see on here is people shouting racist simply because someone uses the word Chinese. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 27, 2020 23:22:30 GMT 1,
To be honest i wish it was the 257 that was wrong. Doctors are saying we have enough beds for a few more days and that's it
To be honest i wish it was the 257 that was wrong. Doctors are saying we have enough beds for a few more days and that's it |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Mar 27, 2020 23:26:19 GMT 1, I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities.
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Sod that I've just survived dying thanks very much and I'm certainly not ready to say goodbye to my elderly parents, family & friends unnecessarily. Things look scary because they are scary. There are plenty of reports of perfectly healthy young people dying too. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 27, 2020 23:29:50 GMT 1, For those that havenโt been through the report here is a quote from the last paragraph; Our analysis informs the evaluation of both the nature of the measures required to suppress COVID- 19 and the likely duration that these measures will need to be in place. Results in this paper have informed policymaking in the UK and other countries in the last weeks. However, we emphasise that is not at all certain that suppression will succeed long term; no public health intervention with such disruptive effects on society has been previously attempted for such a long duration of time. How populations and societies will respond remains unclear.Long term conditions as this would not last Regular citizens are not listening to government firm advice now , sunbathing in parks still , mass bbqs in garages , once summer sets in harsher enforcerments will be imposed If the crisis escalates , The population had a chance to self govern but the majority disregarded official advice and what was happening around the world . Lots of social issues yet to come . The government if read all research papers all available still have no full understanding of the virus and how to contain it . If you look at all figures of global total deaths it seems low when compared to deaths from flu and other viruses etc All countries limiting tests to severe symptoms when could of stepped up production from chinas model data months previously . Governments still drip feeding information to the public . It seems it is a lot worse than they have released in information so far . The way it is spreading and with out tests , the only way to keep safe is to completely self isolate
For those that havenโt been through the report here is a quote from the last paragraph; Our analysis informs the evaluation of both the nature of the measures required to suppress COVID- 19 and the likely duration that these measures will need to be in place. Results in this paper have informed policymaking in the UK and other countries in the last weeks. However, we emphasise that is not at all certain that suppression will succeed long term; no public health intervention with such disruptive effects on society has been previously attempted for such a long duration of time. How populations and societies will respond remains unclear.Long term conditions as this would not last Regular citizens are not listening to government firm advice now , sunbathing in parks still , mass bbqs in garages , once summer sets in harsher enforcerments will be imposed If the crisis escalates , The population had a chance to self govern but the majority disregarded official advice and what was happening around the world . Lots of social issues yet to come . The government if read all research papers all available still have no full understanding of the virus and how to contain it . If you look at all figures of global total deaths it seems low when compared to deaths from flu and other viruses etc All countries limiting tests to severe symptoms when could of stepped up production from chinas model data months previously . Governments still drip feeding information to the public . It seems it is a lot worse than they have released in information so far . The way it is spreading and with out tests , the only way to keep safe is to completely self isolate If everyone in the country was tested and it was found that many or a high percentage had contracted covid and showed no symptons or had a mild case and recovered and others had not caught the virus or were imune to it. What would be the sense in locking those people down? |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 27, 2020 23:31:55 GMT 1, I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Tell that to the NHS staff on the front line right now or maybe share your views with some of the residents of Northern Italy and see if they share your views on this one Hopefully given it wonโt impact you youโre helping others it might
by mw on Mar 15, 2020 at 8:48pm,
Anti inflammatory warning is incorrect, different kind of pneumonia. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
by mw 15 hours ago
My other half is A GP and has got her PPE from-
Can't see how a doctor would make a comment like this below .....
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities.
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Tell that to the NHS staff on the front line right now or maybe share your views with some of the residents of Northern Italy and see if they share your views on this one Hopefully given it wonโt impact you youโre helping others it might by mw on Mar 15, 2020 at 8:48pm, Anti inflammatory warning is incorrect, different kind of pneumonia. Trust me, I'm a doctor. by mw 15 hours ago My other half is A GP and has got her PPE from- Can't see how a doctor would make a comment like this below ..... I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 27, 2020 23:34:00 GMT 1, 39 Health workers have now died in Italy since the outbreak began. The majority of those were infected during early stages in the north of the country when protective equipment was lacking, just as it STILL IS here in the UK. I don't understand why so many health workers are victim. Surely they aren't 70+ of age, so most are not among the risk group.
39 Health workers have now died in Italy since the outbreak began. The majority of those were infected during early stages in the north of the country when protective equipment was lacking, just as it STILL IS here in the UK. I don't understand why so many health workers are victim. Surely they aren't 70+ of age, so most are not among the risk group. Over 60 priests have died who contracted the virus whilst visiting the sick in Italy. The health care workers are exhausted physically and mentally and are being exposed daily to covid. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 27, 2020 23:34:28 GMT 1, I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Sod that I've just survived dying thanks very much and I'm certainly not ready to say goodbye to my elderly parents, family & friends unnecessarily. Things look scary because they are scary. There are plenty of reports of perfectly healthy young people dying too.
It's okay he's a doctor 
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Sod that I've just survived dying thanks very much and I'm certainly not ready to say goodbye to my elderly parents, family & friends unnecessarily. Things look scary because they are scary. There are plenty of reports of perfectly healthy young people dying too. It's okay he's a doctor |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by mojo on Mar 27, 2020 23:37:59 GMT 1, Sod that I've just survived dying thanks very much and I'm certainly not ready to say goodbye to my elderly parents, family & friends unnecessarily. Things look scary because they are scary. There are plenty of reports of perfectly healthy young people dying too. It's okay he's a doctor
Sod that I've just survived dying thanks very much and I'm certainly not ready to say goodbye to my elderly parents, family & friends unnecessarily. Things look scary because they are scary. There are plenty of reports of perfectly healthy young people dying too. It's okay he's a doctor |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 27, 2020 23:38:23 GMT 1,
Jesus that's bad for the U.K
Jesus that's bad for the U.K |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 27, 2020 23:44:35 GMT 1, "China cashes in off coronavirus, selling Spain $467 million in supplies, some of them substandard'"
"In Spain, for example, Health Minister Salvador Illa announced Wednesday that the country had bought $467 million in medical supplies from China, including 950 ventilators, 5.5 million testing kits, 11 million gloves and more than half a billion protective face masks.
Soon after receiving the supplies, the Spanish government announced plans to return 9,000 "quick result" test kits to China, El Pais reported, because they were deemed substandard, specifically the sensibility of the test was around 30 percent, when it should be higher than 80 percent."
www.foxnews.com/world/china-money-coronavirus-spain-467-million-faulty-supplies
www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/coronavirus-pandemic-china-mask-mercantilism/
"China cashes in off coronavirus, selling Spain $467 million in supplies, some of them substandard'"
"In Spain, for example, Health Minister Salvador Illa announced Wednesday that the country had bought $467 million in medical supplies from China, including 950 ventilators, 5.5 million testing kits, 11 million gloves and more than half a billion protective face masks.
Soon after receiving the supplies, the Spanish government announced plans to return 9,000 "quick result" test kits to China, El Pais reported, because they were deemed substandard, specifically the sensibility of the test was around 30 percent, when it should be higher than 80 percent."
www.foxnews.com/world/china-money-coronavirus-spain-467-million-faulty-supplies
www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/coronavirus-pandemic-china-mask-mercantilism/
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Fะฏ on Mar 27, 2020 23:49:56 GMT 1, I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities.
COVIDIOT
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. COVIDIOT |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by .dappy on Mar 27, 2020 23:51:46 GMT 1, ... a man taking factual information from fox news ...
... spain is free to buy any supplies from anywhere in the world ...
... surprised you didn't mention chinese flu or even kung flu ...
... a man taking factual information from fox news ...
... spain is free to buy any supplies from anywhere in the world ...
... surprised you didn't mention chinese flu or even kung flu ...
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by vickyv on Mar 27, 2020 23:57:03 GMT 1, i must admit, my first thought on hearing about BJ was that it's a good excuse to go into hiding just as all the lies regarding ventilators - and the ongoing cronyism - were being revealed.
i must admit, my first thought on hearing about BJ was that it's a good excuse to go into hiding just as all the lies regarding ventilators - and the ongoing cronyism - were being revealed.
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moron
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 28, 2020 0:09:17 GMT 1, Is anyone else disgusted that GM wanted a BILLION dollars to make 80k ventilators and you can just buy the same ones Elon Musk is donating for $3k retail each? Which he probably paid less for. Why does GM need $12,500/per ventilator? If that greedy b**chthat runs that place canโt do it for less, maybe she should step aside and let the big boys and girls run GM for her and take a timeout. I bet Elon comes in stronger with a much better product for WAY LESS when he gets his production going anyway. The difference between a genius running a company and an evil hag trying to bend the American people over I guess. Didnโt we just bail that company out a few years ago and this is how they respond when THE PEOPLE need them to return the favor in kind? f**kthat company!
12.5K seems far below what hospitals normally pay for ventilators.
Maybe it's better to build the ventilators and get them to hospitals first and then worry about the price?
Obama gave GM eleven billion in bailout money.
"MIT-based team works on rapid deployment of open-source, low-cost ventilator"
"Students working in consultation with local physicians designed a simple ventilator device that could be built with about $100 worth of parts. They published a paper detailing their design and testing, but the work ended at that point. Now, with a significant global need looming, a new team, linked to that course, has resumed the project at a highly accelerated pace."
e-vent.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/DMD-2010-MIT-E-Vent.pdf
Is anyone else disgusted that GM wanted a BILLION dollars to make 80k ventilators and you can just buy the same ones Elon Musk is donating for $3k retail each? Which he probably paid less for. Why does GM need $12,500/per ventilator? If that greedy b**chthat runs that place canโt do it for less, maybe she should step aside and let the big boys and girls run GM for her and take a timeout. I bet Elon comes in stronger with a much better product for WAY LESS when he gets his production going anyway. The difference between a genius running a company and an evil hag trying to bend the American people over I guess. Didnโt we just bail that company out a few years ago and this is how they respond when THE PEOPLE need them to return the favor in kind? f**kthat company! I guess it depends on the build quality and type. 12.5K seems far below what hospitals normally pay for ventilators. Maybe it's better to build the ventilators and get them to hospitals first and then worry about the price? Obama gave GM eleven billion in bailout money. "MIT-based team works on rapid deployment of open-source, low-cost ventilator"
"Students working in consultation with local physicians designed a simple ventilator device that could be built with about $100 worth of parts. They published a paper detailing their design and testing, but the work ended at that point. Now, with a significant global need looming, a new team, linked to that course, has resumed the project at a highly accelerated pace."
e-vent.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/DMD-2010-MIT-E-Vent.pdf |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Terry Fuckwitt on Mar 28, 2020 0:09:23 GMT 1, The big question... if Dominic Raab takes over as pm if Boris becomes too ill. Will Boris get 80% of his wage? ๐ค
The big question... if Dominic Raab takes over as pm if Boris becomes too ill. Will Boris get 80% of his wage? ๐ค
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 28, 2020 0:17:42 GMT 1, I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities.
Old and people with health conditions have to be treated to prevent them spreading the disease to other people regardless if they are on their way out anyway or not. If the time comes when old people with covid are told, that because of their age they will not be treated and left to die. Then it is the beginning of the end.
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Hospitals do not treat old people to the same degree as young people it has been alleged on many occasions and allow them to die. One reason is to prioritize resources has been said. Old and people with health conditions have to be treated to prevent them spreading the disease to other people regardless if they are on their way out anyway or not. If the time comes when old people with covid are told, that because of their age they will not be treated and left to die. Then it is the beginning of the end. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 28, 2020 0:23:26 GMT 1, It's not that low is it? I thought it was higher than ours, we are the 3rd worst in Europe from memory? Cheers to the Tories for that Good job as always Up to 3 weeks ago we had only 257 ICU beds for the whole country
Is the government making plans for the army etc and to use cruise ships as hospitals and rig up emergency places with beds in buildings?
It's not that low is it? I thought it was higher than ours, we are the 3rd worst in Europe from memory? Cheers to the Tories for that Good job as always Up to 3 weeks ago we had only 257 ICU beds for the whole country That's amazingly low. Is the government making plans for the army etc and to use cruise ships as hospitals and rig up emergency places with beds in buildings? |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 0:39:11 GMT 1,
Wow, cool
I heard of people buying up Mature cheddar and Ritz crackers (just in case)
Wow, cool I heard of people buying up Mature cheddar and Ritz crackers (just in case) |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 28, 2020 0:46:44 GMT 1, Wow, cool I heard of people buying up Mature cheddar and Ritz crackers (just in case)
I do like a bit of cheddar and crackers too with a pickle.
Wow, cool I heard of people buying up Mature cheddar and Ritz crackers (just in case) Fashion workers who have not been paid are in poor parts of the world and earn very little. I do like a bit of cheddar and crackers too with a pickle. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by moron on Mar 28, 2020 1:07:35 GMT 1,
It's an interesting article and creates questions in parts rather than give answers.
From the Center for disease control website :
"In their current form bat flu viruses do not appear to pose a threat to human health."
www.cdc.gov/flu/other/bat-flu.html#spread
"Attempts to propagate this virus in cell cultures and chicken embryos were unsuccessful, suggesting distinct requirements compared with known influenza viruses. Despite its divergence from known influenza A viruses, the bat virus is compatible for genetic exchange with human influenza viruses in human cells"
www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/17/1116200109?sid=2f5ca74c-5aa6-4cb6-89e1-ba35d3854d02
Scientists have tried to propagate the bat virus in chicken embryos and also in mice. Were scientists also propagating this bat virus in human cells?
There was a SARS outbreak in China in 2002, a strain only found in small mammals, mutated and affected humans.
Then a SARS outbreak in 2004 linked to a medical facility in China where someone came into contact with the virus in the facility.
www.nhs.uk/conditions/sars/
If this Covid pandemic is caused by the virus in bats being transmitted to animals which are sold at market to be eaten and the virus in the animal/s mutated to affect humans. So far no animal has been identified scientifically although suggestions have been made and if it had then all the animals of the same species sold as food would have been banned and slaughtered and disposed of to prevent any further spread of the virus. So far nothing in the news about that.
It's an interesting article and creates questions in parts rather than give answers. From the Center for disease control website : "In their current form bat flu viruses do not appear to pose a threat to human health."
www.cdc.gov/flu/other/bat-flu.html#spread
"Attempts to propagate this virus in cell cultures and chicken embryos were unsuccessful, suggesting distinct requirements compared with known influenza viruses. Despite its divergence from known influenza A viruses, the bat virus is compatible for genetic exchange with human influenza viruses in human cells"
www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/17/1116200109?sid=2f5ca74c-5aa6-4cb6-89e1-ba35d3854d02
Scientists have tried to propagate the bat virus in chicken embryos and also in mice. Were scientists also propagating this bat virus in human cells? There was a SARS outbreak in China in 2002, a strain only found in small mammals, mutated and affected humans. Then a SARS outbreak in 2004 linked to a medical facility in China where someone came into contact with the virus in the facility. www.nhs.uk/conditions/sars/ If this Covid pandemic is caused by the virus in bats being transmitted to animals which are sold at market to be eaten and the virus in the animal/s mutated to affect humans. So far no animal has been identified scientifically although suggestions have been made and if it had then all the animals of the same species sold as food would have been banned and slaughtered and disposed of to prevent any further spread of the virus. So far nothing in the news about that. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by Matt on Mar 28, 2020 11:57:06 GMT 1, I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Please be cautious about making statements like the one above. Where do you practice medicine?
I would also love to know...
Honestly your very basic take on a multifaceted situation, combined with a what looks like overwhelming self orientation...doesn't scream of "practices medicine"
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Please be cautious about making statements like the one above. Where do you practice medicine?I would also love to know... Honestly your very basic take on a multifaceted situation, combined with a what looks like overwhelming self orientation...doesn't scream of "practices medicine" |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 28, 2020 13:31:17 GMT 1, I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. What proportion of these folks are on they way out? How have you defined this? In the grand scheme of things, we are still waiting on the actual numbers...clearly the current case fatality rate in Italy is much higher than people predicted in January. If you get it now - and have no sequelae - you could get it again in winter- exactly like other Coronaviruses. It has nothing to do with running scared - it is about protecting the vulnerable and the healthcare systems which also have to continue treating all the emergencies that continue to present as of pre-covid. Please be cautious about making statements like the one above. Where do you practice medicine?
This is the problem in a small group of society that think soley of themselves that this pandemic does not effect them as it is only fatal to older groups as they have interpreted figures released by the news which supported this in the beginning , but slowly we are learning it can be fatal to all age groups without underlying health issues .
This is the flaw with how data is released at the moment .
As only people that present themselves with severe symptoms are tested and if positive their deaths are logged as covid 19, many more deaths could be from covid 19 but if not tested prior to their death it is not logged to the statistical data .
Even if fatal to groups outside our age groups we should have empathy for these
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Some people may have the harsh view that deaths over the average age of death is viewed acceptable?
Some people lack empathy and are distant to the needs of the older generations but at some point if we are lucky we will all get to that old age and the way the older generation are treated by the health care system and society now we have that to look forward to .so what is happening now , we should take note
Hopefully as a global issue and effecting the whole of humanity , this issue will make a few people think about life more indepth and be closer with society than thinking selfishly about themselves .
Isolation advice around the world given by governments clearly still disregarded by a few , but the same people will be crying for ventilators if infected
In the coming months we will see a clearer picture and may be the ones that think it is still a flashover will listen
I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. What proportion of these folks are on they way out? How have you defined this? In the grand scheme of things, we are still waiting on the actual numbers...clearly the current case fatality rate in Italy is much higher than people predicted in January. If you get it now - and have no sequelae - you could get it again in winter- exactly like other Coronaviruses. It has nothing to do with running scared - it is about protecting the vulnerable and the healthcare systems which also have to continue treating all the emergencies that continue to present as of pre-covid. Please be cautious about making statements like the one above. Where do you practice medicine? This is the problem in a small group of society that think soley of themselves that this pandemic does not effect them as it is only fatal to older groups as they have interpreted figures released by the news which supported this in the beginning , but slowly we are learning it can be fatal to all age groups without underlying health issues . This is the flaw with how data is released at the moment . As only people that present themselves with severe symptoms are tested and if positive their deaths are logged as covid 19, many more deaths could be from covid 19 but if not tested prior to their death it is not logged to the statistical data . Even if fatal to groups outside our age groups we should have empathy for these en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancySome people may have the harsh view that deaths over the average age of death is viewed acceptable? Some people lack empathy and are distant to the needs of the older generations but at some point if we are lucky we will all get to that old age and the way the older generation are treated by the health care system and society now we have that to look forward to .so what is happening now , we should take note Hopefully as a global issue and effecting the whole of humanity , this issue will make a few people think about life more indepth and be closer with society than thinking selfishly about themselves . Isolation advice around the world given by governments clearly still disregarded by a few , but the same people will be crying for ventilators if infected In the coming months we will see a clearer picture and may be the ones that think it is still a flashover will listen |
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tab1
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 28, 2020 13:37:59 GMT 1, www.liveleak.com/view?t=9dKUg_1585319664
How many months of a lockdown before becomes an issue?
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by pellets on Mar 28, 2020 13:43:27 GMT 1,
With some of these videos i feel like we have no way of knowing when they are from. Its 2020, if someones filming a riot it needs to be in 1080p minimum.
With some of these videos i feel like we have no way of knowing when they are from. Its 2020, if someones filming a riot it needs to be in 1080p minimum. |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by irl1 on Mar 28, 2020 14:18:02 GMT 1, Dr Harold Shipman writes: I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities.
Hi honey i'm home 
Dr Harold Shipman writes: I know things might looks pretty scary but alot of these folks are on their way out anyway. It's kind of like counting people who die of pneumonia. In the grand scheme of things the numbers aren't big and the probabilities are low. If you get it now, you'll be free to go about your life in the winter. If you run away scared, you'll be running for a good few years and yes that's what some will have to do, but the young and the fit need to learn simple probabilities. Hi honey i'm home |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by hops on Mar 28, 2020 14:37:18 GMT 1, "What can you tell Americans who are really scared right now?" "I can tell them that you're a terrible reporter" FFS! How can anyone vote for this spiteful, nasty, lying piece of sh*t!
"What can you tell Americans who are really scared right now?" "I can tell them that you're a terrible reporter" FFS! How can anyone vote for this spiteful, nasty, lying piece of sh*t! This is what you get from a 3rd world president in a 1st world nation. Truly a disgusting human being. Heโs separated the country like no president ever has or ever will. Plus heโs a sexual predator, demagogue, racist, etc... Did he build his wall for the red hats? No, heโs a loser too. Doesnโt know how to make deals, just plays with peoples lives like itโs a game. His family will be shamed for life. His wife is married to the #1 bully on earth. Donโt get me started on that piece of trash... |
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Corona Virus effect on the art market?, by tab1 on Mar 28, 2020 14:46:45 GMT 1, With some of these videos i feel like we have no way of knowing when they are from. Its 2020, if someones filming a riot it needs to be in 1080p minimum.
With some of these videos i feel like we have no way of knowing when they are from. Its 2020, if someones filming a riot it needs to be in 1080p minimum. Sceptical too , but took into account the face masks , which have not been used in any other demonstrations prior ? |
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