His latest works for sale at the Phillips’ exhibition next week in New York are for sale @ $25k for 150 x 150 cm canvases and $18k for 120 x 120 cm.

I think noir is an odd one as he’s clearly supported by the big 3 auction houses, as all have had large exhibitions with him, but his market does seem to have fallen a lot in value.

Any ideas why?

I genuinely believe long term his works will have some decent value. He obviously has a base of collectors that will buy his work and he has the back story of painting the Berlin Wall and his style reaches the urban and contemporary market. I think he pisses collectors off however, as he has continually stated he won’t ever produce any more prints, so collectors buy in, or hold what they’ve had for years, assuming the prints they own maybe increase in value due to this scarcity, but then he changes his mind when Phillips’ $ cash cow comes rearing and he then produces another 500+ prints with Phillips, effectively devaluing the existing market for his prints.

I’m guessing the market is greater in the US hence this latest exhibition in NYC instead of London. This then puts off buyers in Europe and other continents, as the cost of shipping and import taxes just adds to the expense. Apparently he is due another show in Hong Kong and Tokyo soon too, so there is clearly a market for his works despite the rather divisive thoughts and comment on here 😄

Why does anyone care about what happens after they die? You really don't need that kind of long view here, there are thousands of precedents of so called 'hot/hyped' artists fading into complete obscurity. 

I agree with this 100%. I’ve had the TN studio ask me not to sell at the lower end auction houses and eBay et al and directing me to sell and buy at the 3 big auction houses. I am also aware that the studio have contacted galleries about them selling pieces too in a rather controlling way. It ends up winding people up the wrong way and then collectors end up “dumping” their works. I don’t think the crash in value of these works is due to pump and dump as it’s usually very obvious it’s happening and I have usually found that it is newer artists that galleries/investors are pumping and not artists with a known history of painting over many years. Probably more of a hype where a few pieces start to sell for big bucks and people create the market for more and more sales until things start to cool off. I’m sure with the support of the large auction houses his market will continue to grow. I’m guessing they make a fair percentage out of these sales but wouldn’t take the time, expense and do all the marketing etc if they didn’t think these were going to sell. The exhibition in NY is for over 2 weeks, so they clearly have a lot invested in this. So my conclusion is maybe a certain amount of pump and dump, a lot of hype and subsequent cooling off and a lot of people being wound up! Long term I think he’s one to keep, especially the older pieces and prints, as I think from 2020 onwards he was knocking out these paintings left right and centre.

$5000 for 4 small woodcuts or $1800 for 1 large screenprint...

I wonder if people are talking about of his art style that don’t likes , and this is a reason of person taste or are talking about of people that are loosing tons of money due the dump of his market .

if the second one , collectors loosed lot of money also with other artists , Banksy too but no one says  nothing..

Buy what you like!

Works are now available via Dropshop: dropshop.phillips.com/collections/thierry-noir

Some nice works here.

And forgotten about

I won't be going to NYC however if the Gold show represents all ~50 sporting competitions at the Paris Olympics it could be entertaining, and I hope to see some shared photos. Maybe he's a large supporter or this is completely a timed cash grab. The production of Trampoline is questionable. The selection of prints are steep and judging by the availability will be sourced easily if in need. With that said, if I were looking, I would still rather have a head that resembles the works on the wall in Berlin.

Thierry is a lovely man who loves to draw and paint. He's created enormous goodwill through his art, his kindness and the rebellion of painting an unjust wall (aren't they all?) for 20+ years.

Why do you continue to persist with your Henners/glcork Noir bear commentary? It's un-Noir like and only serves to undermine the work and legacy of a good dude.

Please stop for Thierry's sake and for those who care about him and his art. I've held off saying anything for a while and won't reply further. I hope you can find the inner will and wisdom for a hard stop. Thank you.

Just back from the Noir show at Phillips in NYC. The pieces on canvas are very nice with bright, vivid colors. The large canvases are around 25K, smaller ones around 18K. The smaller round canvases are 8K. The prints are nice but beside these beautiful canvases appear lost. If in the city one should visit the show!

I'm sorry to ruin this beautiful portait of Saint Thierry you have made, but I must tell you that I have been chased and threatened by Thierry's staff ever since I threw out there the possibility of selling one of his pieces. They chase you down to the last f*°ùking penny over re-sale.
Greed man, very tough beast.

all still available...

hear hear

Henner what's happening to the 1m preprogrammed?

LOL

more facts less words old sport

Did they begin their email with, 'Now now old sport...'?

Well that was a slow sell out and only 25 of each, not a good sign