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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Lazarus II on Apr 9, 2021 8:04:25 GMT 1, It hurts your eyes !
It hurts your eyes !
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Mass on Apr 9, 2021 8:05:03 GMT 1, I do agree with the opinion Thierry has let his management team devalue is market, they saw the opportunity and it was like they tortured him in to painting canvases 24 7! The secondary market is a good 20% down on primary and that is all the evidence I need to see. He’s said no more but you can bet there will be. As for the post about looking to deliberately collide to reduce values, you don’t need to, Thierry has done it for you.
I do agree with the opinion Thierry has let his management team devalue is market, they saw the opportunity and it was like they tortured him in to painting canvases 24 7! The secondary market is a good 20% down on primary and that is all the evidence I need to see. He’s said no more but you can bet there will be. As for the post about looking to deliberately collide to reduce values, you don’t need to, Thierry has done it for you.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by The Italian One on Apr 9, 2021 8:07:02 GMT 1, Italianone it is good that you are coming over now to the side of trying to bring the Noir prices down. Also because you recently you had a sales thread with Noir Head pieces for sale that I was looking at but I decided that they were too expensive and did not DM you about them. But now you have sold those Noir Head pieces it is a good time for to start bringing the prices down because then you buy more Head pieces in the future for a lower price. Also, stikfan and Terry Fuckwit agree that the prices are coming down and are writing the correct things to start to bring the price down like Noir is not good and has no long term prospects. This is all really good and Stikfan is happy and even says that he is now the biggest fan of all of this. This does not mean that you don't love the artist and that you don't like the art. It is just that you want the prices to be lower. That is why I don't see the problem with this and why everyone is getting so upset about it all. Noir is coming down in price soon and the recent price increase will change and go back to the same as last year. This is because Too many comparisons are made with Noir and Stik here, that don't hold up imo. Yeah, they collaborated together and are friends, but that's where it all ends. You will see that the Noir prices are going to be coming down. Unlike Stik until recently he has made a career out of releasing thousands and thousands of low-priced paintings over a long period of time. There could even be millions of paintings by now and also they are all bad. This means that there is no future for this artist. Thierry’s management are doing a great job of ruining his longer term prospects and the production for Noir art is too high and the prices are going to surely come down. Also the prices are artificially inflated as part of a get-rich-quick scheme to the detriment of his artist, in my opinion cheapening the message of much of the work that he has done over the years. As this is not sustainable, there will be a correction as has happened with many artists mentioned on this forum over the years. This is correct and the prices are surely going to go down for Noir soon. The art is also weak and just basic heads and there are also pieces on ebay with lower and lower prices and not being sold. It’s true that there is often / always a degree of manipulation, but it’s rarely as shamelessly clumsy and transparent as this. The art of Noir is going to come down in price. ripart you are the water boy if you think any sort of different opinion. The prices are going to come to a lower price that they were last year. This artist has no prospects in the long term. If you disagree with this you are wrong.
FYI I sold the canvases because they accused me for something I did not and it was an excuse to not doing a commission ordered 1 year ago (paying 1/4 of the actual price)! So tired of manger's behavior I decided to not collect him anymore! it was not about money it was about respect (long story)!! TN management at the moment act like a spoiled kid!
Said that I still think TN is one of the best street artist and a godfather of graffiti scene worldwide being one of the first putting his life in danger for a better looking world.
Italianone it is good that you are coming over now to the side of trying to bring the Noir prices down. Also because you recently you had a sales thread with Noir Head pieces for sale that I was looking at but I decided that they were too expensive and did not DM you about them. But now you have sold those Noir Head pieces it is a good time for to start bringing the prices down because then you buy more Head pieces in the future for a lower price. Also, stikfan and Terry Fuckwit agree that the prices are coming down and are writing the correct things to start to bring the price down like Noir is not good and has no long term prospects. This is all really good and Stikfan is happy and even says that he is now the biggest fan of all of this. This does not mean that you don't love the artist and that you don't like the art. It is just that you want the prices to be lower. That is why I don't see the problem with this and why everyone is getting so upset about it all. Noir is coming down in price soon and the recent price increase will change and go back to the same as last year. This is because Too many comparisons are made with Noir and Stik here, that don't hold up imo. Yeah, they collaborated together and are friends, but that's where it all ends. You will see that the Noir prices are going to be coming down. Unlike Stik until recently he has made a career out of releasing thousands and thousands of low-priced paintings over a long period of time. There could even be millions of paintings by now and also they are all bad. This means that there is no future for this artist. Thierry’s management are doing a great job of ruining his longer term prospects and the production for Noir art is too high and the prices are going to surely come down. Also the prices are artificially inflated as part of a get-rich-quick scheme to the detriment of his artist, in my opinion cheapening the message of much of the work that he has done over the years. As this is not sustainable, there will be a correction as has happened with many artists mentioned on this forum over the years. This is correct and the prices are surely going to go down for Noir soon. The art is also weak and just basic heads and there are also pieces on ebay with lower and lower prices and not being sold. It’s true that there is often / always a degree of manipulation, but it’s rarely as shamelessly clumsy and transparent as this. The art of Noir is going to come down in price. ripart you are the water boy if you think any sort of different opinion. The prices are going to come to a lower price that they were last year. This artist has no prospects in the long term. If you disagree with this you are wrong. Sorry , I forgot to write that I was joking!! FYI I sold the canvases because they accused me for something I did not and it was an excuse to not doing a commission ordered 1 year ago (paying 1/4 of the actual price)! So tired of manger's behavior I decided to not collect him anymore! it was not about money it was about respect (long story)!! TN management at the moment act like a spoiled kid! Said that I still think TN is one of the best street artist and a godfather of graffiti scene worldwide being one of the first putting his life in danger for a better looking world. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by +852 on Apr 9, 2021 10:34:57 GMT 1, This is a good little resource, shows the original prices of pieces - if someone has bought in the past and uploaded.
www.art collectorz/artworks/artwork-detail?artwork_id=9612&edition_id=12192
This is a good little resource, shows the original prices of pieces - if someone has bought in the past and uploaded. www.art collectorz/artworks/artwork-detail?artwork_id=9612&edition_id=12192 |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Lazarus II on Apr 9, 2021 10:38:01 GMT 1, New to Thierry Noir and this forum ... Out of interest what was the price for Heads or Jazz when they where available from his website ? The Olympic Gold will be priced ‘ line with the current primary market levels’ and just trying to gage whether this something I can afford to engage in. Appreciate any insight - cheers
small head canvasses were circa £350 last summer on release.
New to Thierry Noir and this forum ... Out of interest what was the price for Heads or Jazz when they where available from his website ? The Olympic Gold will be priced ‘ line with the current primary market levels’ and just trying to gage whether this something I can afford to engage in. Appreciate any insight - cheers small head canvasses were circa £350 last summer on release. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Dice on Apr 9, 2021 11:01:03 GMT 1, Has there ever been a Thierry noir painting at a major auction house? If not why not?
Has there ever been a Thierry noir painting at a major auction house? If not why not?
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by tab1 on Apr 9, 2021 11:24:59 GMT 1, New to Thierry Noir and this forum ... Out of interest what was the price for Heads or Jazz when they where available from his website ? The Olympic Gold will be priced ‘ line with the current primary market levels’ and just trying to gage whether this something I can afford to engage in. Appreciate any insight - cheers
They will probably want anywhere in the range of 3-6k
New to Thierry Noir and this forum ... Out of interest what was the price for Heads or Jazz when they where available from his website ? The Olympic Gold will be priced ‘ line with the current primary market levels’ and just trying to gage whether this something I can afford to engage in. Appreciate any insight - cheers They will probably want anywhere in the range of 3-6k |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by tab1 on Apr 9, 2021 11:32:59 GMT 1, Anyone have the Chichester 2013 street art poster?
Anyone have the Chichester 2013 street art poster?
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by tab1 on Apr 10, 2021 11:40:35 GMT 1, May happen but would be over a year for a correction as you say if the market stays as is.
If major galleries promote him and enter a few high profile auctions could go the other way .
May happen but would be over a year for a correction as you say if the market stays as is.
If major galleries promote him and enter a few high profile auctions could go the other way .
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Street Collector on Apr 10, 2021 12:18:42 GMT 1, lazarus hopefully the prices will be coming back to £300 again as the confidence will continue to be lost because of stikfan and all the other UAA members that are also agreeing that Noir prices are too high and because the secondary market is a good 80% down on primary and that is all the evidence I need to see. He’s said no more but you can bet there will be. As for the post about looking to deliberately collide to reduce values, you don’t need to, Thierry has done it for you. And the prices will continue to go down. People are angry and say that they are the true art lovers but they are wrong if they think the prices are not going down. In the end they will all thank me when they are able to buy more Noir. The last thing dice is for an auction of Noir to occur because then surely the rest of the world will start to find out about Noir and because he has not done many exhibitions the world does not know about the story yet so please don't join the other waterboys saying that the prices should rise and do not suggest that there should be an auction. At least not soon for an auction because first I want to try and bring the price of the Noir Head pieces down so I can buy a lot of them. After that if the auctions then start for Noir I am then happy with that in the end because I will be an owner of a lot of Noir finally after bringing the prices down. Noir is coming down in price soon and the recent price increase will change and go back to the same as last year. This is because Too many comparisons are made with Noir and Stik here, that don't hold up imo. Yeah, they collaborated together and are friends, but that's where it all ends. You will see that the Noir prices are going to be coming down. Unlike Stik until recently he has made a career out of releasing thousands and thousands of low-priced paintings over a long period of time. There could even be millions of paintings by now and also they are all bad. This means that there is no future for this artist. Thierry’s management are doing a great job of ruining his longer term prospects and the production for Noir art is too high and the prices are going to surely come down. Also the prices are artificially inflated as part of a get-rich-quick scheme to the detriment of his artist, in my opinion cheapening the message of much of the work that he has done over the years. As this is not sustainable, there will be a correction as has happened with many artists mentioned on this forum over the years. This is correct and the prices are surely going to go down for Noir soon. The art is also weak and just basic heads and there are also pieces on ebay with lower and lower prices and not being sold. It’s true that there is often / always a degree of manipulation, but it’s rarely as shamelessly clumsy and transparent as this. The art of Noir is going to come down in price. ripart you are the water boy if you think any sort of different opinion. The prices are going to come to a lower price that they were last year. This artist has no prospects in the long term. If you disagree with this you are wrong.
Rufio, start studying because your eyes hurt when reading you. You have no idea what art is or what an artist is, and you speak with surprising vanality. Please start studying from the beginning so that you learn well and know respect. Start by studying the cave painting in Leang Tedongnge Cave, which is where you are right now. When you get out of it study the art and architecture of the ancient Egyptian, Greek and Roman civilizations. Then he studies well the art, painting, sculpture and architecture of the Middle Ages, Romanesque, and Gothic. Study Flemish painting, Brueguel, Bosco. Study the Italian Renaissance, you will like it and you will meet da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael Sanzio and Tiziano. Study the porcelain art of the ancient Chinese dynasties, also look at the ancient Japanese art. Study the Oriental and European decorative arts well. Study the Baroque, Velazquez, Caravaggio, Rubens, Bernini, Rembrandt, Ingres, Goya, Zurbarán, Delacroix, continue with Constable, Turner, Manet .. Study the Impressionists, Monet, Renoir, Degas, Seurat, a Van Gogh, Gauguin, Lautrec .. Study modernism. Study modern art and the avant-gardes of the first half of the 20th century. Study Fauvism, study Cubism, there is a certain Picasso that you will like, study Braque and Legér. Study Furutism, Expressionism, Russian Constructivism, Dadaism, take a good look at Duchamp. Also study Bauhaus. Study geometric abstraction, Mondrian, Delaunay, Kandinsky, Klee .. Also art Deco. Study Surrealism, study Breton, Magritte, Dalí.. Study the avant-gardes of the second half of the twentieth century, Abstract Expressionism, study Informalism, New Figuration, Pop Art, study Hyperrealism, study, study, come on, you are almost reaching Urban Art, courage. When you get to it, study it well, know its history and its artists, see who broke and laid the foundations, see who caused influences, see who created something new. This is only the basics that you should study, nor is it close to the basics, art is much bigger than you imagine. I am sure that when you do this path you will never speak the way you do. Well, we will see each other and talk 45,000 years from now when you come out of your cave and are ready. Noir is a world artist and under normal conditions it is normal for him to be governed by who is a fundamental artist who also has the peculiarity of being unique. I at least do not see that in Europe people are getting rid of their Noirs, on the contrary. There is very little work for sale, if you compare it with other greats there is much less work on the market. The truth is that it is surprising how naturally Noir's work has been placed in the best places over the years. Ignorance is very brave, do not try to manipulate the natural tendency of things, time puts everyone in their place, as it has just happened to you right now and Noir's place is much higher.
lazarus hopefully the prices will be coming back to £300 again as the confidence will continue to be lost because of stikfan and all the other UAA members that are also agreeing that Noir prices are too high and because the secondary market is a good 80% down on primary and that is all the evidence I need to see. He’s said no more but you can bet there will be. As for the post about looking to deliberately collide to reduce values, you don’t need to, Thierry has done it for you. And the prices will continue to go down. People are angry and say that they are the true art lovers but they are wrong if they think the prices are not going down. In the end they will all thank me when they are able to buy more Noir. The last thing dice is for an auction of Noir to occur because then surely the rest of the world will start to find out about Noir and because he has not done many exhibitions the world does not know about the story yet so please don't join the other waterboys saying that the prices should rise and do not suggest that there should be an auction. At least not soon for an auction because first I want to try and bring the price of the Noir Head pieces down so I can buy a lot of them. After that if the auctions then start for Noir I am then happy with that in the end because I will be an owner of a lot of Noir finally after bringing the prices down. Noir is coming down in price soon and the recent price increase will change and go back to the same as last year. This is because Too many comparisons are made with Noir and Stik here, that don't hold up imo. Yeah, they collaborated together and are friends, but that's where it all ends. You will see that the Noir prices are going to be coming down. Unlike Stik until recently he has made a career out of releasing thousands and thousands of low-priced paintings over a long period of time. There could even be millions of paintings by now and also they are all bad. This means that there is no future for this artist. Thierry’s management are doing a great job of ruining his longer term prospects and the production for Noir art is too high and the prices are going to surely come down. Also the prices are artificially inflated as part of a get-rich-quick scheme to the detriment of his artist, in my opinion cheapening the message of much of the work that he has done over the years. As this is not sustainable, there will be a correction as has happened with many artists mentioned on this forum over the years. This is correct and the prices are surely going to go down for Noir soon. The art is also weak and just basic heads and there are also pieces on ebay with lower and lower prices and not being sold. It’s true that there is often / always a degree of manipulation, but it’s rarely as shamelessly clumsy and transparent as this. The art of Noir is going to come down in price. ripart you are the water boy if you think any sort of different opinion. The prices are going to come to a lower price that they were last year. This artist has no prospects in the long term. If you disagree with this you are wrong. Rufio, start studying because your eyes hurt when reading you. You have no idea what art is or what an artist is, and you speak with surprising vanality. Please start studying from the beginning so that you learn well and know respect. Start by studying the cave painting in Leang Tedongnge Cave, which is where you are right now. When you get out of it study the art and architecture of the ancient Egyptian, Greek and Roman civilizations. Then he studies well the art, painting, sculpture and architecture of the Middle Ages, Romanesque, and Gothic. Study Flemish painting, Brueguel, Bosco. Study the Italian Renaissance, you will like it and you will meet da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael Sanzio and Tiziano. Study the porcelain art of the ancient Chinese dynasties, also look at the ancient Japanese art. Study the Oriental and European decorative arts well. Study the Baroque, Velazquez, Caravaggio, Rubens, Bernini, Rembrandt, Ingres, Goya, Zurbarán, Delacroix, continue with Constable, Turner, Manet .. Study the Impressionists, Monet, Renoir, Degas, Seurat, a Van Gogh, Gauguin, Lautrec .. Study modernism. Study modern art and the avant-gardes of the first half of the 20th century. Study Fauvism, study Cubism, there is a certain Picasso that you will like, study Braque and Legér. Study Furutism, Expressionism, Russian Constructivism, Dadaism, take a good look at Duchamp. Also study Bauhaus. Study geometric abstraction, Mondrian, Delaunay, Kandinsky, Klee .. Also art Deco. Study Surrealism, study Breton, Magritte, Dalí.. Study the avant-gardes of the second half of the twentieth century, Abstract Expressionism, study Informalism, New Figuration, Pop Art, study Hyperrealism, study, study, come on, you are almost reaching Urban Art, courage. When you get to it, study it well, know its history and its artists, see who broke and laid the foundations, see who caused influences, see who created something new. This is only the basics that you should study, nor is it close to the basics, art is much bigger than you imagine. I am sure that when you do this path you will never speak the way you do. Well, we will see each other and talk 45,000 years from now when you come out of your cave and are ready. Noir is a world artist and under normal conditions it is normal for him to be governed by who is a fundamental artist who also has the peculiarity of being unique. I at least do not see that in Europe people are getting rid of their Noirs, on the contrary. There is very little work for sale, if you compare it with other greats there is much less work on the market. The truth is that it is surprising how naturally Noir's work has been placed in the best places over the years. Ignorance is very brave, do not try to manipulate the natural tendency of things, time puts everyone in their place, as it has just happened to you right now and Noir's place is much higher. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Arty Farty 15 on Apr 10, 2021 15:43:30 GMT 1, Rufio why do you want Noir (or at this point any artist) to undervalue his work?
Matt stop nibbling, you’re dragging this on.
Rufio why do you want Noir (or at this point any artist) to undervalue his work? Matt stop nibbling, you’re dragging this on. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 16:04:05 GMT 1, Rufio why do you want Noir (or at this point any artist) to undervalue his work?
Maybe he is the manager ...  Any form of attention is good ...
Rufio why do you want Noir (or at this point any artist) to undervalue his work? Maybe he is the manager ... Any form of attention is good ... |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Reader on Apr 11, 2021 8:21:38 GMT 1, I don't need to study to know about Noir and also the reason that I want to bring the price down is because I like Noir and originally wanted to own a Noir Head piece or lots of them so what do you say about that? I found out about Noir over a year ago and also agreed that this is a good artist with a future but it is not fair that the price is suddenly going up last year without my opportunity to buy and take the benefit which I was planning to do. So Dmat in the end it is you who is the dumb troll if you cannot even understand that reason. Listen to your manager artyfarty15 and do what he tells you to do. Artyfarty is the manager and wants me to stop brining the Noir prices down which surely they are going to do.
I don't need to study to know about Noir and also the reason that I want to bring the price down is because I like Noir and originally wanted to own a Noir Head piece or lots of them so what do you say about that? I found out about Noir over a year ago and also agreed that this is a good artist with a future but it is not fair that the price is suddenly going up last year without my opportunity to buy and take the benefit which I was planning to do. So Dmat in the end it is you who is the dumb troll if you cannot even understand that reason. Listen to your manager artyfarty15 and do what he tells you to do. Artyfarty is the manager and wants me to stop brining the Noir prices down which surely they are going to do. Maybe just post your diagnosis so we know what we're dealing with :-) |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 10:44:24 GMT 1, Who the manager is is no secret (google it ... H.GRIFFIN GALLERY or you find his adress of all parcels from Noir)...I wouldn't even say we're talking about a pure manager, but rather a gallery owner who has fully taken over the operational business.
A real manager has a different signature.
I think it's legitimate what he's doing if Thierry Noir wants it that way or he wants to be advised that way. That's the art business, it's never been clean, there are very few artists who let the market do it. You're not going to lower or raise his price in the long run, you don't know how much money they put in there to achieve their goal. What we can't discuss away is that Noir is a good artist, whether he has world star potential, unfortunately I can't judge, only time will tell.
Who the manager is is no secret (google it ... H.GRIFFIN GALLERY or you find his adress of all parcels from Noir)...I wouldn't even say we're talking about a pure manager, but rather a gallery owner who has fully taken over the operational business.
A real manager has a different signature.
I think it's legitimate what he's doing if Thierry Noir wants it that way or he wants to be advised that way. That's the art business, it's never been clean, there are very few artists who let the market do it. You're not going to lower or raise his price in the long run, you don't know how much money they put in there to achieve their goal. What we can't discuss away is that Noir is a good artist, whether he has world star potential, unfortunately I can't judge, only time will tell.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Georgie Poppit on Apr 11, 2021 15:42:13 GMT 1, A show and some decent auction results followed by his work going into good collections, museums and institutions.
Hopefully when the current global shit show is over we’ll see something great from him (and his management)
A show and some decent auction results followed by his work going into good collections, museums and institutions.
Hopefully when the current global shit show is over we’ll see something great from him (and his management)
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 15:43:54 GMT 1, A show and some decent auction results followed by his work going into good collections, museums and institutions. Hopefully when the current global shit show is over we’ll see something great from him (and his management)
A show and some decent auction results followed by his work going into good collections, museums and institutions. Hopefully when the current global shit show is over we’ll see something great from him (and his management) Doubt it |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Georgie Poppit on Apr 11, 2021 15:46:12 GMT 1, Agree it’s unlikely but that’s what he needs to aim for.
Agree it’s unlikely but that’s what he needs to aim for.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by That Print Guy on Apr 12, 2021 6:01:05 GMT 1, You are right. He’s just a troll. Enough of this delirium.
my money is on ai like someone else mentioned. The writing goes on and on in a weird way. Maybe it's ESL coming through and not just clunky generated structure .
If you disagree with this you are wrong.
You are right. He’s just a troll. Enough of this delirium. my money is on ai like someone else mentioned. The writing goes on and on in a weird way. Maybe it's ESL coming through and not just clunky generated structure . If you disagree with this you are wrong. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by ricardob on Apr 12, 2021 6:34:54 GMT 1, A show and some decent auction results followed by his work going into good collections, museums and institutions. Hopefully when the current global shit show is over we’ll see something great from him (and his management) Doubt it. I would also like to agree with heavy and say that that there is a doubt. Thank you to Heavy for helping me to get the prices down.
Someone is bitter because he/she missed the boat. Good luck next time.
A show and some decent auction results followed by his work going into good collections, museums and institutions. Hopefully when the current global shit show is over we’ll see something great from him (and his management) Doubt it. I would also like to agree with heavy and say that that there is a doubt. Thank you to Heavy for helping me to get the prices down. Someone is bitter because he/she missed the boat. Good luck next time. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by BerlinerAir on Apr 12, 2021 12:27:10 GMT 1, One could think Noir is asking millions for his work. Visit a few galleries and see what you can buy for under 10k.... Of course, whether something is cheap or expensive depends on one's resources. But even at his current price level Noir is not very expensive.
One could think Noir is asking millions for his work. Visit a few galleries and see what you can buy for under 10k.... Of course, whether something is cheap or expensive depends on one's resources. But even at his current price level Noir is not very expensive.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Lazarus II on Apr 12, 2021 12:42:05 GMT 1, A show and some decent auction results followed by his work going into good collections, museums and institutions. Hopefully when the current global shit show is over we’ll see something great from him (and his management) Doubt it. I would also like to agree with heavy and say that that there is a doubt. Thank you to Heavy for helping me to get the prices down. Someone is bitter because he/she missed the boat. Good luck next time.
he/she would be better placed finding some full stops and comma’s and line breaks over Noir items.
A show and some decent auction results followed by his work going into good collections, museums and institutions. Hopefully when the current global shit show is over we’ll see something great from him (and his management) Doubt it. I would also like to agree with heavy and say that that there is a doubt. Thank you to Heavy for helping me to get the prices down. Someone is bitter because he/she missed the boat. Good luck next time. he/she would be better placed finding some full stops and comma’s and line breaks over Noir items. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Jimini Cricket on Apr 13, 2021 7:21:49 GMT 1, If you all think that I am just an ai then you are all wrong and also if you think that I am a troll you are wrong because all I am is an art appreciator unlike most of the others members on the UAA. Last year I missed the chance that I was planning to buy a Noir Head piece or more than one because the prices suddenly increased by ten times so it is my plan now to work to bring the prices for Noir down by posting regularly negative comments on the UAA saying the art is bad which it is and also on Instagram too where there are now comments which are causing the confidence in Noir to be lost. Thank you to other great UAA members such as stikfan, mass, against, heavy and all the others that have made negative comments to help me to bring the Noir prices down against all of the waterboys and non art appreciators and also against the management artyfarty and also against the first original ripart waterboy. All of this does not mean that I do not love the art of Noir because I do and it is because I love it so much and wanted to originally own a Noir Head piece or more than one or a lot more and wanted to buy pieces that I am now working so hard to bring the prices down and to anyone that says Noir is a world artist I agree with them but I don't agree with the prices going up and also don't agree that Noir should be in the big auctions because that would be bad also for the prices. So until I have a Head piece or more than one I am going to say that the art is weak and this artist has no future in the art world. This is what some of the waterboys on here cannot even understand. It is not ai I am just an art lover and a Noir lover despite the fact that the art is bad and is coming down in price surely soon. So I do agree with Mass that Thierry has let his management team devalue is market, they saw the opportunity and it was like they tortured him in to painting canvases 24 7! The secondary market is a good 80% down on primary and that is all the evidence I need to see and probably it will be 100% down the secondary market compared to the primary market. The price is surely going to come down for Noir soon. It is surely correct.Noir is coming down in price soon and the recent price increase will change and go back to the same as last year. This is because Too many comparisons are made with Noir and Stik here, that don't hold up imo. Yeah, they collaborated together and are friends, but that's where it all ends. You will see that the Noir prices are going to be coming down. Unlike Stik until recently he has made a career out of releasing thousands and thousands of low-priced paintings over a long period of time. There could even be millions of paintings by now and also they are all bad. This means that there is no future for this artist. Thierry’s management are doing a great job of ruining his longer term prospects and the production for Noir art is too high and the prices are going to surely come down. Also the prices are artificially inflated as part of a get-rich-quick scheme to the detriment of his artist, in my opinion cheapening the message of much of the work that he has done over the years. As this is not sustainable, there will be a correction as has happened with many artists mentioned on this forum over the years. This is correct and the prices are surely going to go down for Noir soon. The art is also weak and just basic heads and there are also pieces on ebay with lower and lower prices and not being sold. It’s true that there is often / always a degree of manipulation, but it’s rarely as shamelessly clumsy and transparent as this. The art of Noir is going to come down in price. ripart you are the water boy if you think any sort of different opinion. The prices are going to come to a lower price that they were last year. This artist has no prospects in the long term. If you disagree with this you are wrong.
Yooo...I can't read all that.
Whateva ur tryna say...Congratulations or condolences or glwts
Namaste
If you all think that I am just an ai then you are all wrong and also if you think that I am a troll you are wrong because all I am is an art appreciator unlike most of the others members on the UAA. Last year I missed the chance that I was planning to buy a Noir Head piece or more than one because the prices suddenly increased by ten times so it is my plan now to work to bring the prices for Noir down by posting regularly negative comments on the UAA saying the art is bad which it is and also on Instagram too where there are now comments which are causing the confidence in Noir to be lost. Thank you to other great UAA members such as stikfan, mass, against, heavy and all the others that have made negative comments to help me to bring the Noir prices down against all of the waterboys and non art appreciators and also against the management artyfarty and also against the first original ripart waterboy. All of this does not mean that I do not love the art of Noir because I do and it is because I love it so much and wanted to originally own a Noir Head piece or more than one or a lot more and wanted to buy pieces that I am now working so hard to bring the prices down and to anyone that says Noir is a world artist I agree with them but I don't agree with the prices going up and also don't agree that Noir should be in the big auctions because that would be bad also for the prices. So until I have a Head piece or more than one I am going to say that the art is weak and this artist has no future in the art world. This is what some of the waterboys on here cannot even understand. It is not ai I am just an art lover and a Noir lover despite the fact that the art is bad and is coming down in price surely soon. So I do agree with Mass that Thierry has let his management team devalue is market, they saw the opportunity and it was like they tortured him in to painting canvases 24 7! The secondary market is a good 80% down on primary and that is all the evidence I need to see and probably it will be 100% down the secondary market compared to the primary market. The price is surely going to come down for Noir soon. It is surely correct.Noir is coming down in price soon and the recent price increase will change and go back to the same as last year. This is because Too many comparisons are made with Noir and Stik here, that don't hold up imo. Yeah, they collaborated together and are friends, but that's where it all ends. You will see that the Noir prices are going to be coming down. Unlike Stik until recently he has made a career out of releasing thousands and thousands of low-priced paintings over a long period of time. There could even be millions of paintings by now and also they are all bad. This means that there is no future for this artist. Thierry’s management are doing a great job of ruining his longer term prospects and the production for Noir art is too high and the prices are going to surely come down. Also the prices are artificially inflated as part of a get-rich-quick scheme to the detriment of his artist, in my opinion cheapening the message of much of the work that he has done over the years. As this is not sustainable, there will be a correction as has happened with many artists mentioned on this forum over the years. This is correct and the prices are surely going to go down for Noir soon. The art is also weak and just basic heads and there are also pieces on ebay with lower and lower prices and not being sold. It’s true that there is often / always a degree of manipulation, but it’s rarely as shamelessly clumsy and transparent as this. The art of Noir is going to come down in price. ripart you are the water boy if you think any sort of different opinion. The prices are going to come to a lower price that they were last year. This artist has no prospects in the long term. If you disagree with this you are wrong. Yooo...I can't read all that. Whateva ur tryna say...Congratulations or condolences or glwts Namaste |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 7:28:13 GMT 1, If you all think that I am just an ai then you are all wrong and also if you think that I am a troll you are wrong because all I am is an art appreciator unlike most of the others members on the UAA. Last year I missed the chance that I was planning to buy a Noir Head piece or more than one because the prices suddenly increased by ten times so it is my plan now to work to bring the prices for Noir down by posting regularly negative comments on the UAA saying the art is bad which it is and also on Instagram too where there are now comments which are causing the confidence in Noir to be lost. Thank you to other great UAA members such as stikfan, mass, against, heavy and all the others that have made negative comments to help me to bring the Noir prices down against all of the waterboys and non art appreciators and also against the management artyfarty and also against the first original ripart waterboy. All of this does not mean that I do not love the art of Noir because I do and it is because I love it so much and wanted to originally own a Noir Head piece or more than one or a lot more and wanted to buy pieces that I am now working so hard to bring the prices down and to anyone that says Noir is a world artist I agree with them but I don't agree with the prices going up and also don't agree that Noir should be in the big auctions because that would be bad also for the prices. So until I have a Head piece or more than one I am going to say that the art is weak and this artist has no future in the art world. This is what some of the waterboys on here cannot even understand. It is not ai I am just an art lover and a Noir lover despite the fact that the art is bad and is coming down in price surely soon. So I do agree with Mass that Thierry has let his management team devalue is market, they saw the opportunity and it was like they tortured him in to painting canvases 24 7! The secondary market is a good 80% down on primary and that is all the evidence I need to see and probably it will be 100% down the secondary market compared to the primary market. The price is surely going to come down for Noir soon. It is surely correct.Noir is coming down in price soon and the recent price increase will change and go back to the same as last year. This is because Too many comparisons are made with Noir and Stik here, that don't hold up imo. Yeah, they collaborated together and are friends, but that's where it all ends. You will see that the Noir prices are going to be coming down. Unlike Stik until recently he has made a career out of releasing thousands and thousands of low-priced paintings over a long period of time. There could even be millions of paintings by now and also they are all bad. This means that there is no future for this artist. Thierry’s management are doing a great job of ruining his longer term prospects and the production for Noir art is too high and the prices are going to surely come down. Also the prices are artificially inflated as part of a get-rich-quick scheme to the detriment of his artist, in my opinion cheapening the message of much of the work that he has done over the years. As this is not sustainable, there will be a correction as has happened with many artists mentioned on this forum over the years. This is correct and the prices are surely going to go down for Noir soon. The art is also weak and just basic heads and there are also pieces on ebay with lower and lower prices and not being sold. It’s true that there is often / always a degree of manipulation, but it’s rarely as shamelessly clumsy and transparent as this. The art of Noir is going to come down in price. ripart you are the water boy if you think any sort of different opinion. The prices are going to come to a lower price that they were last year. This artist has no prospects in the long term. If you disagree with this you are wrong.
Don't use my name for your weird machinations. You're talking nonsense, but you know that yourself. It seems that you come from the Noir camp and are looking for attention, why should the prices rise when a Noir comes to a big auction house? That's nonsense, after that the price will go down unless Noir buys the ham himself for a few thousand euros so that it doesn't become an embarrassment... I don't think a Noir will be offered in an Evening Sale next to Banksy, Warhol and Co, forget it. You give a Noir more attention than the normal guy, so I guess you are part of Team Noir.
If you all think that I am just an ai then you are all wrong and also if you think that I am a troll you are wrong because all I am is an art appreciator unlike most of the others members on the UAA. Last year I missed the chance that I was planning to buy a Noir Head piece or more than one because the prices suddenly increased by ten times so it is my plan now to work to bring the prices for Noir down by posting regularly negative comments on the UAA saying the art is bad which it is and also on Instagram too where there are now comments which are causing the confidence in Noir to be lost. Thank you to other great UAA members such as stikfan, mass, against, heavy and all the others that have made negative comments to help me to bring the Noir prices down against all of the waterboys and non art appreciators and also against the management artyfarty and also against the first original ripart waterboy. All of this does not mean that I do not love the art of Noir because I do and it is because I love it so much and wanted to originally own a Noir Head piece or more than one or a lot more and wanted to buy pieces that I am now working so hard to bring the prices down and to anyone that says Noir is a world artist I agree with them but I don't agree with the prices going up and also don't agree that Noir should be in the big auctions because that would be bad also for the prices. So until I have a Head piece or more than one I am going to say that the art is weak and this artist has no future in the art world. This is what some of the waterboys on here cannot even understand. It is not ai I am just an art lover and a Noir lover despite the fact that the art is bad and is coming down in price surely soon. So I do agree with Mass that Thierry has let his management team devalue is market, they saw the opportunity and it was like they tortured him in to painting canvases 24 7! The secondary market is a good 80% down on primary and that is all the evidence I need to see and probably it will be 100% down the secondary market compared to the primary market. The price is surely going to come down for Noir soon. It is surely correct.Noir is coming down in price soon and the recent price increase will change and go back to the same as last year. This is because Too many comparisons are made with Noir and Stik here, that don't hold up imo. Yeah, they collaborated together and are friends, but that's where it all ends. You will see that the Noir prices are going to be coming down. Unlike Stik until recently he has made a career out of releasing thousands and thousands of low-priced paintings over a long period of time. There could even be millions of paintings by now and also they are all bad. This means that there is no future for this artist. Thierry’s management are doing a great job of ruining his longer term prospects and the production for Noir art is too high and the prices are going to surely come down. Also the prices are artificially inflated as part of a get-rich-quick scheme to the detriment of his artist, in my opinion cheapening the message of much of the work that he has done over the years. As this is not sustainable, there will be a correction as has happened with many artists mentioned on this forum over the years. This is correct and the prices are surely going to go down for Noir soon. The art is also weak and just basic heads and there are also pieces on ebay with lower and lower prices and not being sold. It’s true that there is often / always a degree of manipulation, but it’s rarely as shamelessly clumsy and transparent as this. The art of Noir is going to come down in price. ripart you are the water boy if you think any sort of different opinion. The prices are going to come to a lower price that they were last year. This artist has no prospects in the long term. If you disagree with this you are wrong. Don't use my name for your weird machinations. You're talking nonsense, but you know that yourself. It seems that you come from the Noir camp and are looking for attention, why should the prices rise when a Noir comes to a big auction house? That's nonsense, after that the price will go down unless Noir buys the ham himself for a few thousand euros so that it doesn't become an embarrassment... I don't think a Noir will be offered in an Evening Sale next to Banksy, Warhol and Co, forget it. You give a Noir more attention than the normal guy, so I guess you are part of Team Noir. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Reader on Apr 13, 2021 8:28:17 GMT 1, Don't use my name for your weird machinations. You're talking nonsense, but you know that yourself. It seems that you come from the Noir camp and are looking for attention, why should the prices rise when a Noir comes to a big auction house? That's nonsense, after that the price will go down unless Noir buys the ham himself for a few thousand euros so that it doesn't become an embarrassment... I don't think a Noir will be offered in an Evening Sale next to Banksy, Warhol and Co, forget it. You give a Noir more attention than the normal guy, so I guess you are part of Team Noir.
Don't use my name for your weird machinations. You're talking nonsense, but you know that yourself. It seems that you come from the Noir camp and are looking for attention, why should the prices rise when a Noir comes to a big auction house? That's nonsense, after that the price will go down unless Noir buys the ham himself for a few thousand euros so that it doesn't become an embarrassment... I don't think a Noir will be offered in an Evening Sale next to Banksy, Warhol and Co, forget it. You give a Noir more attention than the normal guy, so I guess you are part of Team Noir. I think you're right, I guess if we all say" Noir" enough times on UAA it will lift his online search rankings eventually. I suspect Team Noir Gallery. |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 8:32:35 GMT 1,
6 years ago ... let us talk about future ...
If I'm not mistaken, this was a charity auction and every medium-sized artist was allowed to apply for it. Correct?
www.frogheart.ca/?p=18375
6 years ago ... let us talk about future ... If I'm not mistaken, this was a charity auction and every medium-sized artist was allowed to apply for it. Correct? www.frogheart.ca/?p=18375 |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by ripart on Apr 13, 2021 8:49:34 GMT 1, Rufio you are a mix between the water boy, forestgump and I am Sam. Noir is not for small collectors like you who have no criteria. The ship with your little errand boy capital got away from you. Better dedicate yourself to collecting comics, stickers or dolls is more your style. And leave Noir for serious collectors
Rufio you are a mix between the water boy, forestgump and I am Sam. Noir is not for small collectors like you who have no criteria. The ship with your little errand boy capital got away from you. Better dedicate yourself to collecting comics, stickers or dolls is more your style. And leave Noir for serious collectors
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by tab1 on Apr 13, 2021 11:29:49 GMT 1, Rufio you are a mix between the water boy, forestgump and I am Sam. Noir is not for small collectors like you who have no criteria. The ship with your little errand boy capital got away from you. Better dedicate yourself to collecting comics, stickers or dolls is more your style. And leave Noir for serious collectors
Was thinking what was the reference to I am Sam but had got mixed up with son of Sam!👀😮😬
All the film references you quote point towards or reference traits of
www.harleytherapy.co.uk/counselling/signs-of-aspergers-in-adults.htm
Rufio you are a mix between the water boy, forestgump and I am Sam. Noir is not for small collectors like you who have no criteria. The ship with your little errand boy capital got away from you. Better dedicate yourself to collecting comics, stickers or dolls is more your style. And leave Noir for serious collectors Was thinking what was the reference to I am Sam but had got mixed up with son of Sam!👀😮😬 All the film references you quote point towards or reference traits of www.harleytherapy.co.uk/counselling/signs-of-aspergers-in-adults.htm |
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by tab1 on Apr 13, 2021 11:34:40 GMT 1, I’m am aggrieved at how the prices suddenly rose overnight without any proven influence as there was no interest in the artist for years and was about to purchase. I just choose to move on to another Artist, the true market will prove itself eventually
I’m am aggrieved at how the prices suddenly rose overnight without any proven influence as there was no interest in the artist for years and was about to purchase. I just choose to move on to another Artist, the true market will prove itself eventually
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Sixty Bells on Apr 13, 2021 11:39:21 GMT 1, Every time someone replies to Rufio it gives him/her an opportunity to post another 1000 word essay.
And yes I get the irony the I am replying, but "just saying"
Every time someone replies to Rufio it gives him/her an opportunity to post another 1000 word essay.
And yes I get the irony the I am replying, but "just saying"
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