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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fairxat on Dec 14, 2021 19:00:15 GMT 1, so people just care about the price? dont buy it then. If its for charity charge more - 10 people with the money will buy it. People care about those without the money who might put themselves in debt to purchase. Do you know if itโs all the profit or all the proceeds to charity?
A lot of people take out loans to purchase art, on the hope that their purchase will rise in value, a few people here used to discuss such methods 6-8years ago. The second bitcoin rise, a few people remortgaged their homes to purchase bitcoins and subsequently lost their homes. A lot of people are drawn to these markets to specifically make money and get caught up in the hype, look at the Banksy t shirts for example. You also have a few people that invest early in these scams and hype targeted to the unknowledgeable, I.e blok If they truly wanted to raise as much money for charity an open edition for month would of worked well at a sensible price
so people just care about the price? dont buy it then. If its for charity charge more - 10 people with the money will buy it. People care about those without the money who might put themselves in debt to purchase. Do you know if itโs all the profit or all the proceeds to charity? A lot of people take out loans to purchase art, on the hope that their purchase will rise in value, a few people here used to discuss such methods 6-8years ago. The second bitcoin rise, a few people remortgaged their homes to purchase bitcoins and subsequently lost their homes. A lot of people are drawn to these markets to specifically make money and get caught up in the hype, look at the Banksy t shirts for example. You also have a few people that invest early in these scams and hype targeted to the unknowledgeable, I.e blok If they truly wanted to raise as much money for charity an open edition for month would of worked well at a sensible price
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fairxat on Dec 14, 2021 19:01:59 GMT 1, For what itโs worth this is the response I had when I sent a message to PC asking for their position on the previous skateboard release. What I find strange is the high pricing compared to other authorised items other than that I quite like the decks. There is no agreement in place for these images to be reproduced or sold, they aren't eligible for authentication of any sort.
Many thanks
Pest Control Office So what do we have? we have a pic of something banksy did 20 odd years back that he has distanced himself from. Another business has 'sort of' permission to use. Marchant at Stowe has decided he would like a wicked holiday somewhere hot away from it all and he would like 12 people to pay for it for him. For this to happen, He spins it as A/ Banksy B/small run, limited availability C/ Expensive (only the lucky few can own it Costs for this would be approx ยฃ300 for the 3 decks, and say ยฃ200 for the print. so ยฃ500 all in, sell at ยฃ8k gives around ยฃ90k profit for the special edition Potential resale would be around ยฃ2k, so all the lucky buyers get to contribute quite a chunk of their after tax Money to Steve I guess Clown will get a cut of this too, so seems only fair we help him out and buy it ๐น
For what itโs worth this is the response I had when I sent a message to PC asking for their position on the previous skateboard release. What I find strange is the high pricing compared to other authorised items other than that I quite like the decks. There is no agreement in place for these images to be reproduced or sold, they aren't eligible for authentication of any sort.
Many thanks
Pest Control Office So what do we have? we have a pic of something banksy did 20 odd years back that he has distanced himself from. Another business has 'sort of' permission to use. Marchant at Stowe has decided he would like a wicked holiday somewhere hot away from it all and he would like 12 people to pay for it for him. For this to happen, He spins it as A/ Banksy B/small run, limited availability C/ Expensive (only the lucky few can own it Costs for this would be approx ยฃ300 for the 3 decks, and say ยฃ200 for the print. so ยฃ500 all in, sell at ยฃ8k gives around ยฃ90k profit for the special edition Potential resale would be around ยฃ2k, so all the lucky buyers get to contribute quite a chunk of their after tax Money to Steve I guess Clown will get a cut of this too, so seems only fair we help him out and buy it ๐น
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Lunch Special
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Lunch Special on Dec 14, 2021 19:07:22 GMT 1, If anyone is interested, I've got an unopened box of the test press series set available (3 decks). Not sure what these are worth but I am open to offers.
Where you located
If anyone is interested, I've got an unopened box of the test press series set available (3 decks). Not sure what these are worth but I am open to offers. Where you located
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by startimeash on Dec 14, 2021 19:45:12 GMT 1, For what itโs worth this is the response I had when I sent a message to PC asking for their position on the previous skateboard release. What I find strange is the high pricing compared to other authorised items other than that I quite like the decks. There is no agreement in place for these images to be reproduced or sold, they aren't eligible for authentication of any sort.
Many thanks
Pest Control Office Or indeed if the primary motivation for releasing them is to maximise the money being raised for the chosen (no doubt worthy cause) then why not reduce the pricing and substantially increase the edition size. I do think that the price of this release is what has raised a lot of eyebrows (including my own) and, though there will likely always be two schools of thought on the use of the image, I think theyโd sell these by the truckload if the edition size (and price) have was better judged. This! I don't think that if this had been an open edition at ยฃ50 that anyone would've raised much of an eyebrow, other than to mention WCP and Mason Storm in passing and call it unauthorized. For ยฃ50 if you like it, it's a decent shout. But EIGHT GRAND?!?! C'mon...
For what itโs worth this is the response I had when I sent a message to PC asking for their position on the previous skateboard release. What I find strange is the high pricing compared to other authorised items other than that I quite like the decks. There is no agreement in place for these images to be reproduced or sold, they aren't eligible for authentication of any sort.
Many thanks
Pest Control Office Or indeed if the primary motivation for releasing them is to maximise the money being raised for the chosen (no doubt worthy cause) then why not reduce the pricing and substantially increase the edition size. I do think that the price of this release is what has raised a lot of eyebrows (including my own) and, though there will likely always be two schools of thought on the use of the image, I think theyโd sell these by the truckload if the edition size (and price) have was better judged. This! I don't think that if this had been an open edition at ยฃ50 that anyone would've raised much of an eyebrow, other than to mention WCP and Mason Storm in passing and call it unauthorized. For ยฃ50 if you like it, it's a decent shout. But EIGHT GRAND?!?! C'mon...
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by amz on Dec 14, 2021 20:16:11 GMT 1, People care about those without the money who might put themselves in debt to purchase. Do you know if itโs all the profit or all the proceeds to charity? A lot of people take out loans to purchase art, on the hope that their purchase will rise in value, a few people here used to discuss such methods 6-8years ago. The second bitcoin rise, a few people remortgaged their homes to purchase bitcoins and subsequently lost their homes. A lot of people are drawn to these markets to specifically make money and get caught up in the hype, look at the Banksy t shirts for example. You also have a few people that invest early in these scams and hype targeted to the unknowledgeable, I.e blok If they truly wanted to raise as much money for charity an open edition for month would of worked well at a sensible price
Loans for personal art?
People care about those without the money who might put themselves in debt to purchase. Do you know if itโs all the profit or all the proceeds to charity? A lot of people take out loans to purchase art, on the hope that their purchase will rise in value, a few people here used to discuss such methods 6-8years ago. The second bitcoin rise, a few people remortgaged their homes to purchase bitcoins and subsequently lost their homes. A lot of people are drawn to these markets to specifically make money and get caught up in the hype, look at the Banksy t shirts for example. You also have a few people that invest early in these scams and hype targeted to the unknowledgeable, I.e blok If they truly wanted to raise as much money for charity an open edition for month would of worked well at a sensible price Loans for personal art?
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by JW on Dec 14, 2021 21:25:04 GMT 1, A lot of people take out loans to purchase art, on the hope that their purchase will rise in value, a few people here used to discuss such methods 6-8years ago. The second bitcoin rise, a few people remortgaged their homes to purchase bitcoins and subsequently lost their homes. A lot of people are drawn to these markets to specifically make money and get caught up in the hype, look at the Banksy t shirts for example. You also have a few people that invest early in these scams and hype targeted to the unknowledgeable, I.e blok If they truly wanted to raise as much money for charity an open edition for month would of worked well at a sensible price Loans for personal art? Yes. There are even schemes such as Own Art that provide 0% financing up to ยฃ25k in some cases for people in the UK.
A lot of people take out loans to purchase art, on the hope that their purchase will rise in value, a few people here used to discuss such methods 6-8years ago. The second bitcoin rise, a few people remortgaged their homes to purchase bitcoins and subsequently lost their homes. A lot of people are drawn to these markets to specifically make money and get caught up in the hype, look at the Banksy t shirts for example. You also have a few people that invest early in these scams and hype targeted to the unknowledgeable, I.e blok If they truly wanted to raise as much money for charity an open edition for month would of worked well at a sensible price Loans for personal art? Yes. There are even schemes such as Own Art that provide 0% financing up to ยฃ25k in some cases for people in the UK.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by 7star on Dec 14, 2021 22:00:26 GMT 1, Still think Clown should comment and Stowe have gone quiet?
Still think Clown should comment and Stowe have gone quiet?
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Stowe Gallery
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Stowe Gallery on Dec 14, 2021 23:38:22 GMT 1, Still think Clown should comment and Stowe have gone quiet?
Please email us or call us on 020 3489 4836 if you have any questions.
Still think Clown should comment and Stowe have gone quiet? Please email us or call us on 020 3489 4836 if you have any questions.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by 7star on Dec 15, 2021 0:47:39 GMT 1, I think answering questions here is better for transparency no?
1. Do you think you should maybe state the prints aren't an official release or even authorised by the artist or are you happy or even relying on buyers to be misled and think its an official release in order to sell them? 2. Do you think it's fair to presume the artists consent to make prints of his work without permission?
I think answering questions here is better for transparency no?
1. Do you think you should maybe state the prints aren't an official release or even authorised by the artist or are you happy or even relying on buyers to be misled and think its an official release in order to sell them? 2. Do you think it's fair to presume the artists consent to make prints of his work without permission?
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Fairxat
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fairxat on Dec 15, 2021 2:34:07 GMT 1, The first release of these decks many thought these were an official Banksy release by the constant hype from one individual here, and the promised thousands these would make once these hit auctions.15-20k quoted at the time. I actually reached out at the time and offered a considerable sum if a print would be released and mentioned that an edition would be highly popular here, firmly told no prints would ever be produced. Everyone gets caught up in the moment, the way they were marketed here, it seemed a genuine Banksy colab. Just a money grab and many will be left out of pocket. Multiple people here received emails from pest control stating these were not permitted to be released or authorized by the artist.if the gallery wants any longevity in the market, this release will kill all hopes of achieving this, with the way this is released
The first release of these decks many thought these were an official Banksy release by the constant hype from one individual here, and the promised thousands these would make once these hit auctions.15-20k quoted at the time. I actually reached out at the time and offered a considerable sum if a print would be released and mentioned that an edition would be highly popular here, firmly told no prints would ever be produced. Everyone gets caught up in the moment, the way they were marketed here, it seemed a genuine Banksy colab. Just a money grab and many will be left out of pocket. Multiple people here received emails from pest control stating these were not permitted to be released or authorized by the artist.if the gallery wants any longevity in the market, this release will kill all hopes of achieving this, with the way this is released
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by 7star on Dec 15, 2021 11:05:40 GMT 1, Yo Stowe .... questions are ready when you are
Also regarding longevity Fairxat ..... Stowe are already a laughing stock with anyone who knows anything in the slightest about art in general and his market
Yo Stowe .... questions are ready when you are
Also regarding longevity Fairxat ..... Stowe are already a laughing stock with anyone who knows anything in the slightest about art in general and his market
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fะฏ on Dec 15, 2021 11:45:52 GMT 1, Yo Stowe .... questions are ready when you are Also regarding longevity Fairxat ..... Stowe are already a laughing stock with anyone who knows anything in the slightest about art in general and his market
They said to call them if you had an issue, give it a rest
Yo Stowe .... questions are ready when you are Also regarding longevity Fairxat ..... Stowe are already a laughing stock with anyone who knows anything in the slightest about art in general and his market They said to call them if you had an issue, give it a rest
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by 7star on Dec 15, 2021 14:24:06 GMT 1, Stowe ....... still waiting for responses
Stowe ....... still waiting for responses
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by flingading on Dec 15, 2021 14:30:28 GMT 1, Stowe ....... still waiting for responses Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you.
Stowe ....... still waiting for responses Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by buffin on Dec 15, 2021 14:47:22 GMT 1, Stowe ....... still waiting for responses Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you.
But then you might not believe what is relayed to you second hand. Weird that some people are trying to stifle debate on an art forum.
Stowe ....... still waiting for responses Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you. But then you might not believe what is relayed to you second hand. Weird that some people are trying to stifle debate on an art forum.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by flingading on Dec 15, 2021 15:02:34 GMT 1, Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you. But then you might not believe what is relayed to you second hand. Weird that some people are trying to stifle debate on an art forum.
7star wants answers. Stowe have said weโre happy to talk to you on the phone. Itโs quite common for companies not to get into lengthy discussions/arguments on online forums. This was 7star gets the answers he so desperately wants and he can share them with us if he doesnโt like the answers he gets.
For what itโs worth I agree with his sentiment and think the pricing is ridiculous but thereโs no point screaming behind a keyboard when heโs been offered a way to get the answers he wants.
*Edit - I'd also have a differing view if the debate was about the art itself, but it's about the companies/galleries marketing. They are under no obligation to share that information with us. If 7star feels strongly enough that the marketing is underhand or even illegal then reporting them would have more effect than trying to goad them into an argument online.
Just phone them and come back to us with what they say if it's worrying you this much. They've already said they are happy to talk to you. But then you might not believe what is relayed to you second hand. Weird that some people are trying to stifle debate on an art forum. 7star wants answers. Stowe have said weโre happy to talk to you on the phone. Itโs quite common for companies not to get into lengthy discussions/arguments on online forums. This was 7star gets the answers he so desperately wants and he can share them with us if he doesnโt like the answers he gets. For what itโs worth I agree with his sentiment and think the pricing is ridiculous but thereโs no point screaming behind a keyboard when heโs been offered a way to get the answers he wants. *Edit - I'd also have a differing view if the debate was about the art itself, but it's about the companies/galleries marketing. They are under no obligation to share that information with us. If 7star feels strongly enough that the marketing is underhand or even illegal then reporting them would have more effect than trying to goad them into an argument online.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by astbury on Dec 15, 2021 15:02:39 GMT 1, This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity?
This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity?
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by bonesy on Dec 15, 2021 15:56:56 GMT 1, This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity?
Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print
This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Lunch Special on Dec 15, 2021 16:00:15 GMT 1, This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? [/b]
How much have you donated to charity this year in the form of multiple projects? Clown has definitely been putting in work. Rebuilding skateparks, donating boards and shoes to skate camps cleaning up Areas for kids to skate and the sorts. That work aint free and it ainโt cheap. Talk is cheap. Nuff said. Must be so easy to Start a company off the back of a new widely unknown artist which is what Banksy was in 2000. Drinking beers smoking weed talking about music art the streets and to babes. Yea sounds like a really fake back story.
If the boards were ยฃ800 would it had made a difference? Who here works for the government? Iโm saying ya be asking question like you the feds.
This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below: www.clownskateboards.com/inactionWe have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible. Although some donโt agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art. Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think itโs acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received. How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? [/b] How much have you donated to charity this year in the form of multiple projects? Clown has definitely been putting in work. Rebuilding skateparks, donating boards and shoes to skate camps cleaning up Areas for kids to skate and the sorts. That work aint free and it ainโt cheap. Talk is cheap. Nuff said. Must be so easy to Start a company off the back of a new widely unknown artist which is what Banksy was in 2000. Drinking beers smoking weed talking about music art the streets and to babes. Yea sounds like a really fake back story. If the boards were ยฃ800 would it had made a difference? Who here works for the government? Iโm saying ya be asking question like you the feds.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Newar on Dec 15, 2021 16:04:19 GMT 1, Hopefully i'd buy plenty of popcorn
Hopefully i'd buy plenty of popcorn
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Stowe Gallery
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Stowe Gallery on Dec 15, 2021 16:38:29 GMT 1, I just received an email from Jeff and Vikas. Thought everyone would want to read it. FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity.
Again, if anyone has any questions please email us or call us.
Dear Jamie, Please pass this onto whoever you feel needs to see this, we have nothing to hide, we will not go into a forum to post. Forums are for fans, collectors, enthusiasts and probably some flippers, which is a shame. We as an organisation and a CIC have no place in forums to comment and have never done so, it's for the people we mentioned above. You should also step out of that world mate, leave it to fans, collectors, enthusiasts, it their own space to deduce what they feel, whatever that may be. WE are a bit confused why this situation has arrived, maybe we all were not clear enough on the communications about this release being solely to raise funds for the CIC as a triptych release which we have never done in past, and a one-off thank you print to go with it. We can take some responsibility for that as once again we have tried to do a lot and donโt have the people around us to get everything in place and check everything over, something that this release would have helped us rectify and we hope still can. After reading the link you and a couple of other people have sent us, we can only state what the real facts are. For those of you who are wondering, Banksy gave us this image many moons ago before his work needed a COA, before pest control was formed and before his first ever print release with POW. And long before he was the big name he is today, well done mate. This is our pride and joy and will protect it fully, as it was given to us for our hard graft, lots of laughs, quite a few hangovers but mostly for having each otherโs backs, something you donโt forget. We are ecstatic to be the only ones able to use this image for Clown and In Action. Thanks mate. Jeff and Vikas
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Hope this clears up the release and puts peoples minds at rest.
Stowe.
I just received an email from Jeff and Vikas. Thought everyone would want to read it. FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity.
Again, if anyone has any questions please email us or call us.
Dear Jamie, Please pass this onto whoever you feel needs to see this, we have nothing to hide, we will not go into a forum to post. Forums are for fans, collectors, enthusiasts and probably some flippers, which is a shame. We as an organisation and a CIC have no place in forums to comment and have never done so, it's for the people we mentioned above. You should also step out of that world mate, leave it to fans, collectors, enthusiasts, it their own space to deduce what they feel, whatever that may be. WE are a bit confused why this situation has arrived, maybe we all were not clear enough on the communications about this release being solely to raise funds for the CIC as a triptych release which we have never done in past, and a one-off thank you print to go with it. We can take some responsibility for that as once again we have tried to do a lot and donโt have the people around us to get everything in place and check everything over, something that this release would have helped us rectify and we hope still can. After reading the link you and a couple of other people have sent us, we can only state what the real facts are. For those of you who are wondering, Banksy gave us this image many moons ago before his work needed a COA, before pest control was formed and before his first ever print release with POW. And long before he was the big name he is today, well done mate. This is our pride and joy and will protect it fully, as it was given to us for our hard graft, lots of laughs, quite a few hangovers but mostly for having each otherโs backs, something you donโt forget. We are ecstatic to be the only ones able to use this image for Clown and In Action. Thanks mate. Jeff and Vikas
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Hope this clears up the release and puts peoples minds at rest.
Stowe.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fะฏ on Dec 15, 2021 16:45:00 GMT 1, How much have you donated to charity this year in the form of multiple projects? Clown has definitely been putting in work. Rebuilding skateparks, donating boards and shoes to skate camps cleaning up Areas for kids to skate and the sorts. That work aint free and it ainโt cheap. Talk is cheap. Nuff said. Must be so easy to Start a company off the back of a new widely unknown artist which is what Banksy was in 2000. Drinking beers smoking weed talking about music art the streets and to babes. Yea sounds like a really fake back story. If the boards were ยฃ800 would it had made a difference? Who here works for the government? Iโm saying ya be asking question like you the feds. He wasn't asking clown he was asking stowe. I'm also very interested in how much is being skimmed off the top of this fundraiser by the gallery. It's all got a dodgy stench about it. stop. just stop. it is embarassing.
How much have you donated to charity this year in the form of multiple projects? Clown has definitely been putting in work. Rebuilding skateparks, donating boards and shoes to skate camps cleaning up Areas for kids to skate and the sorts. That work aint free and it ainโt cheap. Talk is cheap. Nuff said. Must be so easy to Start a company off the back of a new widely unknown artist which is what Banksy was in 2000. Drinking beers smoking weed talking about music art the streets and to babes. Yea sounds like a really fake back story. If the boards were ยฃ800 would it had made a difference? Who here works for the government? Iโm saying ya be asking question like you the feds. He wasn't asking clown he was asking stowe. I'm also very interested in how much is being skimmed off the top of this fundraiser by the gallery. It's all got a dodgy stench about it. stop. just stop. it is embarassing.
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Fะฏ
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fะฏ on Dec 15, 2021 16:53:12 GMT 1, great, now you can enjoy the skateboards you are about to buy safe in the knowledge all is well.
great, now you can enjoy the skateboards you are about to buy safe in the knowledge all is well.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fairxat on Dec 15, 2021 19:08:33 GMT 1, FYI, 100% of the proceeds are going to charity. A bit strange that was never mentioned in any communication and wasn't answered when asked on here but hey, that's excellent, thanks for clarifying. and if you are still not sure
www.fundraisingregulator.org.uk/complaints/make-complaint
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fะฏ on Dec 15, 2021 19:15:43 GMT 1,
Wow. Another embarassing member
Wow. Another embarassing member
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Fairxat on Dec 15, 2021 19:59:58 GMT 1, Wow. Another embarassing member
Wow. Another embarassing member[/quote]
Pot calling the kettle black! You have good form
Too easy quoting charities, to get sales from genuine donators or attract sales just to line greedy pockets! Not implying such here, just if the member is so concerned, it can be looked into
Wow. Another embarassing member Wow. Another embarassing member[/quote] Pot calling the kettle black! You have good form Too easy quoting charities, to get sales from genuine donators or attract sales just to line greedy pockets! Not implying such here, just if the member is so concerned, it can be looked into
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by B- on Dec 15, 2021 21:44:42 GMT 1, How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print Clown site says 33%, Clown email says 100%?
What a circus.
How much of the ยฃ8k is going to the charity? Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print Clown site says 33%, Clown email says 100%?
What a circus.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Daylight Robber on Dec 15, 2021 22:38:10 GMT 1, Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print Clown site says 33%, Clown email says 100%?
What a circus.
Yep, there's a fair bit of ambiguity. Stating that 100% of proceeds will be given to charity doesn't mean anything unless it is declared as gross proceeds, or net.
They wouldn't be lying if they deducted a large sum as expenses before declaring what remained as proceeds.
Clown site says donation is minimum 33% So yeah, theyโre only pocketing over ยฃ5k per print Clown site says 33%, Clown email says 100%?
What a circus.
Yep, there's a fair bit of ambiguity. Stating that 100% of proceeds will be given to charity doesn't mean anything unless it is declared as gross proceeds, or net. They wouldn't be lying if they deducted a large sum as expenses before declaring what remained as proceeds.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by Dice on Dec 15, 2021 23:49:55 GMT 1, Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately.
This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming.
Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks.
stowe-gallery.com/
Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity.
mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bd
Transparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not.
Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately. This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming. Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks. stowe-gallery.com/Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity. mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bdTransparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not.
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Banksy + Clown Skateboards, by B- on Dec 15, 2021 23:55:20 GMT 1, Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately. This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming. Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks. stowe-gallery.com/Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity. mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bdTransparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not. Not to mention Stowe/Jamie Marchant's previous form for outright lying via multiple accounts here and him selling multiple fake Banksy's.
Stowe just deleted their last post saying that 100% of the money made after print costs would be going to charity. Why did they delete it?? Wasnโt quick enough to quote it unfortunately. This is a classic case of how NOT to go about a charity fund raiser. Too many questions. Too many people involved. Not enough answers forthcoming. Firstly there is no mention of charity on the Stowe website for the decks. stowe-gallery.com/Although clown alludes to a charitable organisation in their recent email no mention is made of this release being for charity or the percentage of turnover going to charity. mailchi.mp/clownskateboards.com/doing-this-together?e=7da95482bdTransparency is key here. Stowes record of ripping off Banksy via Mason Storm does them no favours and personally I will be steering well clear of this release, charity or not. Not to mention Stowe/Jamie Marchant's previous form for outright lying via multiple accounts here and him selling multiple fake Banksy's.
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