tonys
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by tonys on Apr 25, 2022 10:26:47 GMT 1, Saw the purple GWB AP and looks like it has a burn mark the whole way round from bad framing. ยฃ350k starting price no thank you. That mat burn is pretty bad, these were only sold a few years ago to VIPs. Easily fixed tho.
Saw the purple GWB AP and looks like it has a burn mark the whole way round from bad framing. ยฃ350k starting price no thank you. That mat burn is pretty bad, these were only sold a few years ago to VIPs. Easily fixed tho.
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JFCC
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by JFCC on Apr 25, 2022 10:43:10 GMT 1, That mat burn is pretty bad, these were only sold a few years ago to VIPs. Easily fixed tho. Not sure it is? Normal cleaning etc will not fix framing burns without resorting to more stringent methods, how would you suggest it is fixed?
In fairness to the owner it was a pretty common way of framing back in the day and if done correctly it shouldn't have burned?
On the flip side however, Banksy collectors are often obsessed with condition (me included) but for other artists such as Warhol, Picasso etc condition becomes much less of an issue as they are already substantially older and they are enjoyed for the artwork.
Just my views ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
That mat burn is pretty bad, these were only sold a few years ago to VIPs. Easily fixed tho. Not sure it is? Normal cleaning etc will not fix framing burns without resorting to more stringent methods, how would you suggest it is fixed? In fairness to the owner it was a pretty common way of framing back in the day and if done correctly it shouldn't have burned? On the flip side however, Banksy collectors are often obsessed with condition (me included) but for other artists such as Warhol, Picasso etc condition becomes much less of an issue as they are already substantially older and they are enjoyed for the artwork. Just my views ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
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Jonas B
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonas B on Apr 25, 2022 10:52:37 GMT 1, That mat burn is pretty bad, these were only sold a few years ago to VIPs.ย Easily fixed tho.
I donโt think easily fixed and whoโs to say this is now how it looks having been โfixedโ. Hopefully the buyer gets a condition report or at least sees it before potentially blowing north of half a million.
That mat burn is pretty bad, these were only sold a few years ago to VIPs.ย Easily fixed tho. I donโt think easily fixed and whoโs to say this is now how it looks having been โfixedโ. Hopefully the buyer gets a condition report or at least sees it before potentially blowing north of half a million.
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tonys
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by tonys on Apr 25, 2022 11:19:50 GMT 1, when i say easily fixed, i mean just reframe it.
when i say easily fixed, i mean just reframe it.
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Unica
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Apr 26, 2022 10:01:07 GMT 1, Dreadful condition prints at Banksy Only sale at Sothebys today, look at the state of the misprinted Kate Moss gift print. I'm shocked it got a bid. The purple GWB has dreadful light burn, I could go on and on.
Dreadful condition prints at Banksy Only sale at Sothebys today, look at the state of the misprinted Kate Moss gift print. I'm shocked it got a bid. The purple GWB has dreadful light burn, I could go on and on.
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Dice
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dice on Apr 26, 2022 11:17:27 GMT 1, Anyone know what this means on the LA prints
sold with exhibition frame
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Anyone know what this means on the LA prints
sold with exhibition frame
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apprint
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by apprint on Apr 26, 2022 12:21:16 GMT 1, those print are coming from some one very close to PC, lots of gift print and dedicated, some with blu tack on the back, some outside edition
those print are coming from some one very close to PC, lots of gift print and dedicated, some with blu tack on the back, some outside edition
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by apprint on Apr 26, 2022 12:22:50 GMT 1, they shoud had reduce the reserve by now to try to get bid on those,
they shoud had reduce the reserve by now to try to get bid on those,
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by UK Art Dealer on Apr 26, 2022 13:21:42 GMT 1, Anyone know what this means on the LA prints sold with exhibition frame ? Sothebys offer you the opportunity when you consign to have them frame your previously unframed prints to be then hung in their exhibition of the sale - hence the term exhibition frame, the frames in my experience are as simple as you can get with the prints just dropped in, no mount/ floating etc.
Anyone know what this means on the LA prints sold with exhibition frame ? Sothebys offer you the opportunity when you consign to have them frame your previously unframed prints to be then hung in their exhibition of the sale - hence the term exhibition frame, the frames in my experience are as simple as you can get with the prints just dropped in, no mount/ floating etc.
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Dice
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dice on Apr 26, 2022 13:44:29 GMT 1, Anyone know what this means on the LA prints sold with exhibition frame ? Sothebys offer you the opportunity when you consign to have them frame your previously unframed prints to be then hung in their exhibition of the sale - hence the term exhibition frame, the frames in my experience are as simple as you can get with the prints just dropped in, no mount/ floating etc.
Great, cheers
Anyone know what this means on the LA prints sold with exhibition frame ? Sothebys offer you the opportunity when you consign to have them frame your previously unframed prints to be then hung in their exhibition of the sale - hence the term exhibition frame, the frames in my experience are as simple as you can get with the prints just dropped in, no mount/ floating etc. Great, cheers
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nameless
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by nameless on Apr 26, 2022 14:17:22 GMT 1, but is it normal that almost all the works are at 0 offers when there is less than an hour ?!
but is it normal that almost all the works are at 0 offers when there is less than an hour ?!
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Unica
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Apr 26, 2022 14:42:21 GMT 1, Most of the action doesn't happen until the last few minutes, now bids on Soup cans, barcode.
Most of the action doesn't happen until the last few minutes, now bids on Soup cans, barcode.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by My Name is Frank on Apr 26, 2022 15:03:14 GMT 1, Getting fruity on the thrower
Getting fruity on the thrower
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Jonas B
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonas B on Apr 26, 2022 15:08:30 GMT 1, That GWB AP would have done well if it wasnโt for the damage. It goes to show cheap framing is a false economy. Going cheap on the framing has cost that seller hundreds of thousands.
That GWB AP would have done well if it wasnโt for the damage. It goes to show cheap framing is a false economy. Going cheap on the framing has cost that seller hundreds of thousands.
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chefd
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by chefd on Apr 26, 2022 15:09:40 GMT 1, Any idea on final sale price?
Any idea on final sale price?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonny Wednesday on Apr 26, 2022 15:11:46 GMT 1, The GWB AP didnt sell
The GWB AP didnt sell
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Coach on Apr 26, 2022 15:13:21 GMT 1, That GWB AP would have done well if it wasnโt for the damage. It goes to show cheap framing is a false economy. Going cheap on the framing has cost that seller hundreds of thousands.
Really? I agree that mat burn (if that is what the damage was - I accept that Iโve not seen the print) reduces the value of a print. Iโm not sure that it reduces it by as much as you suggest.
That GWB AP would have done well if it wasnโt for the damage. It goes to show cheap framing is a false economy. Going cheap on the framing has cost that seller hundreds of thousands. Really? I agree that mat burn (if that is what the damage was - I accept that Iโve not seen the print) reduces the value of a print. Iโm not sure that it reduces it by as much as you suggest.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by My Name is Frank on Apr 26, 2022 15:16:44 GMT 1, Couple of folks really want that hand finished donuts
Couple of folks really want that hand finished donuts
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Young Art Collector on Apr 26, 2022 15:23:55 GMT 1, Very heavy bidding fight on the Napalmโฆ
Very heavy bidding fight on the Napalmโฆ
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by My Name is Frank on Apr 26, 2022 15:37:01 GMT 1, Fighting as predicted for the radar
Fighting as predicted for the radar
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bob60
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by bob60 on Apr 26, 2022 16:28:41 GMT 1, Is tax etc added to those prices?
Is tax etc added to those prices?
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nameless
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by nameless on Apr 26, 2022 16:28:42 GMT 1, Very happy with those prices. Good collection of prints and obviously well represented. Probably best to go with Sothebyโs or Christieโs then for Banksy prints?
The result of the thrower is really badโฆ
Very happy with those prices. Good collection of prints and obviously well represented. Probably best to go with Sothebyโs or Christieโs then for Banksy prints? The result of the thrower is really badโฆ
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Unica
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Apr 26, 2022 16:41:03 GMT 1, Very happy with those prices. Good collection of prints and obviously well represented. Probably best to go with Sothebyโs or Christieโs then for Banksy prints? The result of the thrower is really badโฆ
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Do you mean the Red Liita?
Very happy with those prices. Good collection of prints and obviously well represented. Probably best to go with Sothebyโs or Christieโs then for Banksy prints? The result of the thrower is really badโฆ [b Do you mean the Red Liita?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonny Wednesday on Apr 26, 2022 16:41:19 GMT 1, Is tax etc added to those prices? yes, not sure of all the additions but on a few I looked at, Sotheby's added 26% to the hammer price.
Is tax etc added to those prices? yes, not sure of all the additions but on a few I looked at, Sotheby's added 26% to the hammer price.
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Unica
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Apr 26, 2022 16:43:36 GMT 1, They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful.
They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful.
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nameless
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by nameless on Apr 26, 2022 16:44:26 GMT 1, The result of the thrower is really badโฆ [b Do you mean the Red Liita?
Sure, but Tateward sell the same, month ago, at 370kยฃ. In my opinion sothebys is much better than tateward.
The result of the thrower is really badโฆ [b Do you mean the Red Liita? Sure, but Tateward sell the same, month ago, at 370kยฃ. In my opinion sothebys is much better than tateward.
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nameless
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by nameless on Apr 26, 2022 16:44:57 GMT 1, [b Do you mean the Red Liita? Sure, but Tateward sell the same, month ago, at 370kยฃ. In my opinion sothebys is much better than tateward.
No the GDP Thrower
[b Do you mean the Red Liita? Sure, but Tateward sell the same, month ago, at 370kยฃ. In my opinion sothebys is much better than tateward. No the GDP Thrower
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by JFCC on Apr 26, 2022 19:46:49 GMT 1, They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful.
The best way to look at it is 34.5% on top of the hammer price. Premium plus VAT will be 31% depending on the big 4 auction house plus ARR.
The prices quoted add the premium without VAT even though VAT or import duty will be paid by 99% of buyers.
Very average results today
They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful. The best way to look at it is 34.5% on top of the hammer price. Premium plus VAT will be 31% depending on the big 4 auction house plus ARR. The prices quoted add the premium without VAT even though VAT or import duty will be paid by 99% of buyers. Very average results today
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bob60
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by bob60 on Apr 26, 2022 20:52:00 GMT 1, They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful. The best way to look at it is 34.5% on top of the hammer price. Premium plus VAT will be 31% depending on the big 4 auction house plus ARR. The prices quoted add the premium without VAT even though VAT or import duty will be paid by 99% of buyers. Very average results today
I thought the Kate did very well, especially given that it had condition issues.
They still need to add VAT on BP and ARR, expect another 3-5% on the price shown. Really strong prices on some questionable quality prints. The Kate Moss is awful. The best way to look at it is 34.5% on top of the hammer price. Premium plus VAT will be 31% depending on the big 4 auction house plus ARR. The prices quoted add the premium without VAT even though VAT or import duty will be paid by 99% of buyers. Very average results today I thought the Kate did very well, especially given that it had condition issues.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by sleazus1slord on Apr 26, 2022 21:44:21 GMT 1, What was hand finished on the donuts? Looks like the sprinkles and lights on the motorcycles.
What was hand finished on the donuts? Looks like the sprinkles and lights on the motorcycles.
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