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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by nacional on Nov 30, 2007 14:14:58 GMT 1, A shell suit is bad taste.
A Valentino suit is good taste.
A Ford Mondeo is bad taste.
An Alfa Romeo Spider is good taste.
Posh is bad taste.
Kylie (bless her...) is good taste.
River Plate is good taste.
Boca Juniors is bad taste.
Convince me otherwise...
Or even propose something otherwise....
Let's have a good debate of a very interesting concept.
A shell suit is bad taste.
A Valentino suit is good taste.
A Ford Mondeo is bad taste.
An Alfa Romeo Spider is good taste.
Posh is bad taste.
Kylie (bless her...) is good taste.
River Plate is good taste.
Boca Juniors is bad taste.
Convince me otherwise...
Or even propose something otherwise....
Let's have a good debate of a very interesting concept.
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by goodbyekitty on Nov 30, 2007 14:15:20 GMT 1, Well I have better tast in art and I say
SAMEY
The sheer cheek of it...........  
Well I have better tast in art and I say SAMEY The sheer cheek of it........... |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by Avian Security on Nov 30, 2007 14:22:05 GMT 1, You want D*Face stuff that's a bit different?
[shameless plug]Check out my D* original for sale now buy buy buy Ebay # 290187191425 [/shameless plug]
You want D*Face stuff that's a bit different?
[shameless plug]Check out my D* original for sale now buy buy buy Ebay # 290187191425 [/shameless plug]
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by nacional on Nov 30, 2007 14:24:51 GMT 1, What original went for over 12,000???
What original went for over 12,000???
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by Avian Security on Nov 30, 2007 14:25:52 GMT 1, What original went for over 12,000???
Cli-Che. I think.
What original went for over 12,000??? Cli-Che. I think. |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by numusic on Nov 30, 2007 14:25:59 GMT 1, Everyone has an opinion on it.... like it or don't like it.... (put simply of course!) But I agree with graeme501, if you don't like it then others who do have a different taste in art to you and vice versa. It's not about sitting on the fence but about recognising that liking a piece of art is subjective and we're not all gonna agree all of the time.
You can change people's taste and opinions on art in a day or two.
Everyone has an opinion on it.... like it or don't like it.... (put simply of course!) But I agree with graeme501, if you don't like it then others who do have a different taste in art to you and vice versa. It's not about sitting on the fence but about recognising that liking a piece of art is subjective and we're not all gonna agree all of the time. You can change people's taste and opinions on art in a day or two. |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by dslug on Nov 30, 2007 14:31:08 GMT 1, Whilst I agree that their is a certain amount of repetition in Dface's work I still think each release offers something slightly different. Also in the context of my own collection I find the diversity is created more by the different artists than by each artist themselves (a Matt Small is a Matt Small type thing). Saying that I think my DFace Kant Complain canvas and my HRH Lenticular offer me something completely different. At the end of day its great we all have different tastes and opinions with no single one being either right or wrong.  
check pms Harv.
Whilst I agree that their is a certain amount of repetition in Dface's work I still think each release offers something slightly different. Also in the context of my own collection I find the diversity is created more by the different artists than by each artist themselves (a Matt Small is a Matt Small type thing). Saying that I think my DFace Kant Complain canvas and my HRH Lenticular offer me something completely different. At the end of day its great we all have different tastes and opinions with no single one being either right or wrong. check pms Harv. |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by nacional on Nov 30, 2007 14:32:11 GMT 1, Agreed.
Think back to POW a couple of years ago, the Poison Mary Banksy print (if it was called that). Alongside the print they ran a little sentence that said something like "And no one wants to buy this print. Really. Absolutely no one".
Now it is spoken of a being a seminal early print, blah blah blah...
Not quite a couple of days, but the point is valid.
Agreed.
Think back to POW a couple of years ago, the Poison Mary Banksy print (if it was called that). Alongside the print they ran a little sentence that said something like "And no one wants to buy this print. Really. Absolutely no one".
Now it is spoken of a being a seminal early print, blah blah blah...
Not quite a couple of days, but the point is valid.
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by goffy on Nov 30, 2007 14:37:23 GMT 1, Same old, same old. But D*Face has his admirers and at the moment will always sell. Although a fair few of these will not doubt end up on the ebay, and I don't think there will be a rush to buy them. Personally, I don't like them and wouldn't have them near my walls. But hey! that's just me.
Same old, same old. But D*Face has his admirers and at the moment will always sell. Although a fair few of these will not doubt end up on the ebay, and I don't think there will be a rush to buy them. Personally, I don't like them and wouldn't have them near my walls. But hey! that's just me.
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by manchestermike on Nov 30, 2007 14:39:38 GMT 1, What original went for over 12,000??? Cli-Che. I think.
As of today that isn't sold... it may be in a few days though as it will be in the USA show...
What original went for over 12,000??? Cli-Che. I think. As of today that isn't sold... it may be in a few days though as it will be in the USA show... |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by headphonesex on Nov 30, 2007 14:40:35 GMT 1, Agreed. Think back to POW a couple of years ago, the Poison Mary Banksy print (if it was called that). Alongside the print they ran a little sentence that said something like "And no one wants to buy this print. Really. Absolutely no one". Now it is spoken of a being a seminal early print, blah blah blah... Not quite a couple of days, but the point is valid.
I think that 'no-one wants to buy' comment was a bit self-prophesising! They had it against the print from day 1 (how would they know at that point?) and I think people read it & thought..... oh, yeah. Bit rubbish innit..!
Agreed. Think back to POW a couple of years ago, the Poison Mary Banksy print (if it was called that). Alongside the print they ran a little sentence that said something like "And no one wants to buy this print. Really. Absolutely no one". Now it is spoken of a being a seminal early print, blah blah blah... Not quite a couple of days, but the point is valid. I think that 'no-one wants to buy' comment was a bit self-prophesising! They had it against the print from day 1 (how would they know at that point?) and I think people read it & thought..... oh, yeah. Bit rubbish innit..! |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by bert on Nov 30, 2007 14:41:33 GMT 1, Forgot about the Dface releases today, but after seeing them, don't think I would have shelled out the dosh for them had they been in stock.
Forgot about the Dface releases today, but after seeing them, don't think I would have shelled out the dosh for them had they been in stock.
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by mike hunt on Nov 30, 2007 14:42:03 GMT 1, Not talking about any artist in particular but I think its the same story for a lot of artists... They do the same thing for years and years. Its quite disappointing to see the lack of development with most artists.
Not talking about any artist in particular but I think its the same story for a lot of artists... They do the same thing for years and years. Its quite disappointing to see the lack of development with most artists.
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by dave313perry on Nov 30, 2007 14:45:59 GMT 1, Not talking about any artist in particular but I think its the same story for a lot of artists... They do the same thing for years and years. Its quite disappointing to see the lack of development with most artists.
interesting thread btw... I love the way Neate has progressed, Also Matt Smalls rcent pieces, especially the 3d.
although repetition is not always a bad thing - see TLP for details!
Not talking about any artist in particular but I think its the same story for a lot of artists... They do the same thing for years and years. Its quite disappointing to see the lack of development with most artists. interesting thread btw... I love the way Neate has progressed, Also Matt Smalls rcent pieces, especially the 3d. although repetition is not always a bad thing - see TLP for details! |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by Harveyn on Nov 30, 2007 14:46:47 GMT 1, A shell suit is bad taste. A Valentino suit is good taste. A Ford Mondeo is bad taste. An Alfa Romeo Spider is good taste. Posh is bad taste. Kylie (bless her...) is good taste. River Plate is good taste. Boca Juniors is bad taste. Convince me otherwise... Or even propose something otherwise.... Let's have a good debate of a very interesting concept.
Okay so what you are describing are your likes and dislikes. Your preferences.
Personally I would go for a jog in a Shell Suit rather than a Valentino Suit. You see in this instance it can be whats appropriate as to preference.
For Art I think it is even more so. I think for Art its like, dislike or no opinion (and my opinion on Art can and will change).
I think good and bad taste can only be used (sparingly) when it comes to subject matter and even this is debatable as possibly no subject matter should be off limits.
A shell suit is bad taste. A Valentino suit is good taste. A Ford Mondeo is bad taste. An Alfa Romeo Spider is good taste. Posh is bad taste. Kylie (bless her...) is good taste. River Plate is good taste. Boca Juniors is bad taste. Convince me otherwise... Or even propose something otherwise.... Let's have a good debate of a very interesting concept. Okay so what you are describing are your likes and dislikes. Your preferences. Personally I would go for a jog in a Shell Suit rather than a Valentino Suit. You see in this instance it can be whats appropriate as to preference. For Art I think it is even more so. I think for Art its like, dislike or no opinion (and my opinion on Art can and will change). I think good and bad taste can only be used (sparingly) when it comes to subject matter and even this is debatable as possibly no subject matter should be off limits. |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by dave313perry on Nov 30, 2007 14:52:41 GMT 1, Id also like to point out that sometimes the intial rough and readyness of art - especially within this genre - would be frowned upon by many as lackluster or shoddy, but to others it adds character. its all about opinions...
not sure how you define 'good art' - its more about whats most aesthetically pleasing to yourself
Id also like to point out that sometimes the intial rough and readyness of art - especially within this genre - would be frowned upon by many as lackluster or shoddy, but to others it adds character. its all about opinions...
not sure how you define 'good art' - its more about whats most aesthetically pleasing to yourself
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by nacional on Nov 30, 2007 14:55:37 GMT 1, No, I am not describing my preferences. Going for a jog in a shell suit as opposed to a Valentino suit is not a question of taste, but a question of utility, not preference or taste. This is something totally distinct.
Also the question of utility applied to art is redundant. Do I buy a D*face instead of a Faile, because the space I want to fill is more appropriate to the Faile, but then again, the matt black finish of Kant Complain will contrast really well with the lustre on my leather three piece. I hope not...
No, I am not describing my preferences. Going for a jog in a shell suit as opposed to a Valentino suit is not a question of taste, but a question of utility, not preference or taste. This is something totally distinct.
Also the question of utility applied to art is redundant. Do I buy a D*face instead of a Faile, because the space I want to fill is more appropriate to the Faile, but then again, the matt black finish of Kant Complain will contrast really well with the lustre on my leather three piece. I hope not...
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by numusic on Nov 30, 2007 14:56:08 GMT 1, Not talking about any artist in particular but I think its the same story for a lot of artists... They do the same thing for years and years. Its quite disappointing to see the lack of development with most artists.
Picasso's blue period lasted for years..and don't get me started on cubism.. jeez.. if I see another brown "collaged" violin and newspaper with wine glass i'll scream...and Rothko.. same old same. Come on guys.. i think you're putting way too much importance on the sugar kick of shopping than on the long slow painstaking development of an artists career. I'd be suspicious of any artist churning out "new ideas" to satisfy a craving for "novelty" from a few hundred print buyers. Long haul all the way.. take your time choosing... there'll be more of the same for years to come.
Not talking about any artist in particular but I think its the same story for a lot of artists... They do the same thing for years and years. Its quite disappointing to see the lack of development with most artists. Picasso's blue period lasted for years..and don't get me started on cubism.. jeez.. if I see another brown "collaged" violin and newspaper with wine glass i'll scream...and Rothko.. same old same. Come on guys.. i think you're putting way too much importance on the sugar kick of shopping than on the long slow painstaking development of an artists career. I'd be suspicious of any artist churning out "new ideas" to satisfy a craving for "novelty" from a few hundred print buyers. Long haul all the way.. take your time choosing... there'll be more of the same for years to come. |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by sham69 on Nov 30, 2007 15:04:27 GMT 1, Valentino is a definate no no.
Alfa is a no.
Kylie is a no.
and I couldn't tell a River Plate from a tea plate.
and I don't wear a shell suit or drive a Mondeo.
DFace does what DFace does.
These works are constantly pushing the boundaries of what multiples are capable of.
Compare any of the BRP works with POW. There's no comparison in terms of value for money.
Ultimately the images in question are his signature. As processes, technology and personal ability are improved why wouldn't you want to take these ideas as far as you could.
Lenticular, leather, tin, shot at, mixed media, installations, spot UV, gold leaf, varnished, paint, spray, wood, metal.
and integrity to boot.
There's not many in his league.
Valentino is a definate no no.
Alfa is a no.
Kylie is a no.
and I couldn't tell a River Plate from a tea plate.
and I don't wear a shell suit or drive a Mondeo.
DFace does what DFace does.
These works are constantly pushing the boundaries of what multiples are capable of.
Compare any of the BRP works with POW. There's no comparison in terms of value for money.
Ultimately the images in question are his signature. As processes, technology and personal ability are improved why wouldn't you want to take these ideas as far as you could.
Lenticular, leather, tin, shot at, mixed media, installations, spot UV, gold leaf, varnished, paint, spray, wood, metal.
and integrity to boot.
There's not many in his league.
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by pezlow on Nov 30, 2007 15:05:06 GMT 1, Yeah fair point Nu. There are numerous abstract artists churning out the same old images times and again. The contemporary art world has loads of artists that could be described as "he does ..... ". Gallerists actually like this and will often try to stifle innovation. People want to own something that is recognisably by a particular artist. They want the kudos of having something on the wall that others will recognise straight away as a Patrick Caulfield or Mark Rothko or whoever.
So I guess it comes down to personal taste. Do you like the skulls and wings? I don't so I won't buy. Others do and are happy to buy more of the same.
Yeah fair point Nu. There are numerous abstract artists churning out the same old images times and again. The contemporary art world has loads of artists that could be described as "he does ..... ". Gallerists actually like this and will often try to stifle innovation. People want to own something that is recognisably by a particular artist. They want the kudos of having something on the wall that others will recognise straight away as a Patrick Caulfield or Mark Rothko or whoever.
So I guess it comes down to personal taste. Do you like the skulls and wings? I don't so I won't buy. Others do and are happy to buy more of the same.
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by numusic on Nov 30, 2007 15:07:51 GMT 1, River Plate ? Pah.. Bocca Juniors, Raise.. the redskin mix :-)
www.discogs.com/release/98043
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by babyford on Nov 30, 2007 15:09:43 GMT 1, Leonard st gallery have the original D* face USA canvas
Its a massive (275 cm x 122.5 cm) 
Leonard st gallery have the original D* face USA canvas Its a massive (275 cm x 122.5 cm) |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by numusic on Nov 30, 2007 15:14:40 GMT 1, Yeah fair point Nu. There are numerous abstract artists churning out the same old images times and again. The contemporary art world has loads of artists that could be described as "he does ..... ". Gallerists actually like this and will often try to stifle innovation. People want to own something that is recognisably by a particular artist. They want the kudos of having something on the wall that others will recognise straight away as a Patrick Caulfield or Mark Rothko or whoever. So I guess it comes down to personal taste. Do you like the skulls and wings? I don't so I won't buy. Others do and are happy to buy more of the same.
The sooner an artist (influenced by a gallerist), starts to give the people what they want, the sooner he'll slump into a lifelong depression, the only way he'll cope looking at his own work will be through the bottom of an empty whisky bottle. 
Yeah fair point Nu. There are numerous abstract artists churning out the same old images times and again. The contemporary art world has loads of artists that could be described as "he does ..... ". Gallerists actually like this and will often try to stifle innovation. People want to own something that is recognisably by a particular artist. They want the kudos of having something on the wall that others will recognise straight away as a Patrick Caulfield or Mark Rothko or whoever. So I guess it comes down to personal taste. Do you like the skulls and wings? I don't so I won't buy. Others do and are happy to buy more of the same. The sooner an artist (influenced by a gallerist), starts to give the people what they want, the sooner he'll slump into a lifelong depression, the only way he'll cope looking at his own work will be through the bottom of an empty whisky bottle. |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by mike hunt on Nov 30, 2007 15:16:24 GMT 1, What I like about Neate is that he doesn't jump from one style to another, but you can still see development. He tries new mediums and techniques and learns to master them. Occasionally his brave attempts fail, but are mostly successful. My personal like of neate is that it is very edgy and disturbing - some people really don't like it. I love it because its personal and honest. In my opinion, good art is art that says something to me and happens when a good artist expresses him/herself effectively. I like to know something about the artist through their art - preferably something personal and emotional for me to connect with. I need to see blood! For me, Banksy's Toxic Mary does this best, but he's a great artist because he so effective at communicating, so I feel like he's shared something with me and that I know him.
What I like about Neate is that he doesn't jump from one style to another, but you can still see development. He tries new mediums and techniques and learns to master them. Occasionally his brave attempts fail, but are mostly successful. My personal like of neate is that it is very edgy and disturbing - some people really don't like it. I love it because its personal and honest. In my opinion, good art is art that says something to me and happens when a good artist expresses him/herself effectively. I like to know something about the artist through their art - preferably something personal and emotional for me to connect with. I need to see blood! For me, Banksy's Toxic Mary does this best, but he's a great artist because he so effective at communicating, so I feel like he's shared something with me and that I know him.
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by nacional on Nov 30, 2007 15:26:01 GMT 1, Now, your name can't really be Mike Hunt can it...
Now, your name can't really be Mike Hunt can it...
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by cru5tee on Nov 30, 2007 15:31:34 GMT 1, Not talking about any artist in particular but I think its the same story for a lot of artists... They do the same thing for years and years. Its quite disappointing to see the lack of development with most artists.
Are you saying that you're getting bored of skulls by any chance?
Not talking about any artist in particular but I think its the same story for a lot of artists... They do the same thing for years and years. Its quite disappointing to see the lack of development with most artists. Are you saying that you're getting bored of skulls by any chance? |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by gozgoz on Nov 30, 2007 15:32:48 GMT 1, if u wanna talk about lack of development, what about futura?
if u wanna talk about lack of development, what about futura?
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by harrymay07 on Nov 30, 2007 15:32:54 GMT 1, Everyone has an opinion on it.... like it or don't like it.... (put simply of course!) But I agree with graeme501, if you don't like it then others who do have a different taste in art to you and vice versa. It's not about sitting on the fence but about recognising that liking a piece of art is subjective and we're not all gonna agree all of the time. You can change people's taste and opinions on art in a day or two.
You can do it in 5 minutes with some electricity and crocodile clips.
Everyone has an opinion on it.... like it or don't like it.... (put simply of course!) But I agree with graeme501, if you don't like it then others who do have a different taste in art to you and vice versa. It's not about sitting on the fence but about recognising that liking a piece of art is subjective and we're not all gonna agree all of the time. You can change people's taste and opinions on art in a day or two. You can do it in 5 minutes with some electricity and crocodile clips. |
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by catfelix69 on Nov 30, 2007 15:41:31 GMT 1, If you don't like the artist, don't buy it - move on to something else, it is so boring hearing people slag other artists off, especially someone hugely talented like DFace - it sound like playground jealousy
D*face is King, long live D*face
If you don't like the artist, don't buy it - move on to something else, it is so boring hearing people slag other artists off, especially someone hugely talented like DFace - it sound like playground jealousy
D*face is King, long live D*face
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DFace ๐ฌ๐ง D*Dog โข Street Art โข Print Release News, by mike hunt on Nov 30, 2007 15:46:24 GMT 1, Now, your name can't really be Mike Hunt can it...
Why? What wrong with it? Okay, its not my real name. Real name is Mike Hock.
Now, your name can't really be Mike Hunt can it... Why? What wrong with it? Okay, its not my real name. Real name is Mike Hock. |
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