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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by Lroy on Nov 8, 2020 11:25:38 GMT 1, Opinions are like arseholes. Everybodyโs got one. I only got one asshole, but Iโve got lots of opinions.
Thatโs what @iha said ! Maybe too many ognons for yours ! Joke
Opinions are like arseholes. Everybodyโs got one. I only got one asshole, but Iโve got lots of opinions. Thatโs what @iha said ! Maybe too many ognons for yours ! Joke
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by Lroy on Nov 8, 2020 11:27:23 GMT 1, ๐ โ ๏ธ
Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows....
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Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows....
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by Rubberneck on Nov 8, 2020 11:29:16 GMT 1, Well written as always met . But I asked a question on the validity of how a member apparently knows for a fact that Mason Storm didnโt paint the Monkey Parliament piece which was a request for help and itโs simply ignored as if Iโm not worthy of knowing or it is somehow a stupid question. There are rarely any stupid questions, stupid answers there are plenty. So if you know something that could help the forum then please share it either publicly or via DM. 1. On the Banksy / Devolved Parliament side, it seems understandable that, if someone had inside information, they might refrain from disclosing details on a public forum โ to avoid betraying the trust given to them by the artist. 2. Regarding Mason Storm, both his intention and modus operandi seem reasonably clear to me. This, even if we ignore his history of coattail-riding. It's a case of looking at both paintings, seeing the considerable efforts of the Storm version to very faithfully replicate the Ban ksy and, notwithstanding the intentional small differences, being conscious this process would not have been followed to such degree if the Storm version were (as vaguely yet knowingly implied) an earlier study of the finished Ban ksy. The same thing is evident when comparing Ban ksy's Vettriano, Beach Rescue with Storm's copy: a couple of deliberately noticeable differences, with the rest of it (cloud formations, sand shadows, etc.) being obvious parroting and just too similar to be a study: Side note: Interested members may wish to take the time and closely examine, as I have done, other paintings attributed to Mason Storm. You might share my strong suspicion that many of them were created by different hands โ their execution having been outsourced to artists who can actually paint. 3. If Stowe Gallery, as publisher and distributor of the release, wanted to demonstrate integrity, it could easily offer some clarification. This would benefit collectors currently under the false impression that the painting on which the Mason Storm prints are based may have been a Ban ksy commission, or something other than a mere later copy of a section of Devolved Parliament. The alternative for the gallery is to accept the risk of accusations of dishonesty from its clients โ of selling them prints under cynically-implied false pretences. Artlover has previously identified himself here as Jamie Marchant* of Marchant Group / Stowe Gallery. [ printlove , based in Worcester, looks like it could be a duplicate account.] Since Marchant will surely have had communications with Storm about the background of the painting in question, perhaps he would be kind enough to confirm it has no genuine connection to Ban ksy and that it was created after Devolved Parliament as a reproduction. The subtle changes are likely to do with image copyright law, an expert might want to step in but Iโm of the understanding only 5 parts of the image need to be different for it to be classified as a new image.
Well written as always met . But I asked a question on the validity of how a member apparently knows for a fact that Mason Storm didnโt paint the Monkey Parliament piece which was a request for help and itโs simply ignored as if Iโm not worthy of knowing or it is somehow a stupid question. There are rarely any stupid questions, stupid answers there are plenty. So if you know something that could help the forum then please share it either publicly or via DM. 1. On the Banksy / Devolved Parliament side, it seems understandable that, if someone had inside information, they might refrain from disclosing details on a public forum โ to avoid betraying the trust given to them by the artist. 2. Regarding Mason Storm, both his intention and modus operandi seem reasonably clear to me. This, even if we ignore his history of coattail-riding. It's a case of looking at both paintings, seeing the considerable efforts of the Storm version to very faithfully replicate the Ban ksy and, notwithstanding the intentional small differences, being conscious this process would not have been followed to such degree if the Storm version were (as vaguely yet knowingly implied) an earlier study of the finished Ban ksy. The same thing is evident when comparing Ban ksy's Vettriano, Beach Rescue with Storm's copy: a couple of deliberately noticeable differences, with the rest of it (cloud formations, sand shadows, etc.) being obvious parroting and just too similar to be a study: Side note: Interested members may wish to take the time and closely examine, as I have done, other paintings attributed to Mason Storm. You might share my strong suspicion that many of them were created by different hands โ their execution having been outsourced to artists who can actually paint. 3. If Stowe Gallery, as publisher and distributor of the release, wanted to demonstrate integrity, it could easily offer some clarification. This would benefit collectors currently under the false impression that the painting on which the Mason Storm prints are based may have been a Ban ksy commission, or something other than a mere later copy of a section of Devolved Parliament. The alternative for the gallery is to accept the risk of accusations of dishonesty from its clients โ of selling them prints under cynically-implied false pretences. Artlover has previously identified himself here as Jamie Marchant* of Marchant Group / Stowe Gallery. [ printlove , based in Worcester, looks like it could be a duplicate account.] Since Marchant will surely have had communications with Storm about the background of the painting in question, perhaps he would be kind enough to confirm it has no genuine connection to Ban ksy and that it was created after Devolved Parliament as a reproduction. The subtle changes are likely to do with image copyright law, an expert might want to step in but Iโm of the understanding only 5 parts of the image need to be different for it to be classified as a new image.
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by kjg on Nov 8, 2020 11:32:13 GMT 1, ๐ โ ๏ธ Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows.... I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-)
๐ โ ๏ธ Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows.... I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-)
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by Lroy on Nov 8, 2020 11:36:26 GMT 1, ๐ โ ๏ธ Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows.... I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-)
Oh they are very understanding ! Itโs because of my phone, the only internet that I have.., Anyway, I have to make gym ๐คธ๐ฝโโ๏ธ Now ! No, just joking ๐
๐ โ ๏ธ Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows.... I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-) Oh they are very understanding ! Itโs because of my phone, the only internet that I have.., Anyway, I have to make gym ๐คธ๐ฝโโ๏ธ Now ! No, just joking ๐
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by Black Wolf on Nov 8, 2020 11:53:41 GMT 1, So............ after deliberations and a fine analysis by Met Put up your hand : WHO BOUGHT THIS ? i will be buying one 100%
So............ after deliberations and a fine analysis by Met Put up your hand : WHO BOUGHT THIS ? i will be buying one 100%
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by tab1 on Nov 8, 2020 12:12:13 GMT 1, ๐ โ ๏ธ Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows.... I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-)
50/50
๐ โ ๏ธ Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows.... I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-) 50/50
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by Lazarus II on Nov 8, 2020 12:13:43 GMT 1, I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-) 50/50 phone a friend
I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-) 50/50 phone a friend
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by tab1 on Nov 8, 2020 12:17:22 GMT 1,
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by Lroy on Nov 8, 2020 12:42:53 GMT 1, I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-) 50/50
I no that - coming from you and some friends of you . You never liked me so much despite I love everybody ! JC knows ๐
I think that everyone on here reads your posts. But whether everyone understands them is another story :-) 50/50 I no that - coming from you and some friends of you . You never liked me so much despite I love everybody ! JC knows ๐
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by tab1 on Nov 8, 2020 13:08:32 GMT 1, I no that - coming from you and some friends of you . You never liked me so much despite I love everybody ! JC knows ๐
I never stated that or have one post insinuating that ๐ง ๐ฅฑ๐ but your posts are confusing and muddled at times thatโs all
I no that - coming from you and some friends of you . You never liked me so much despite I love everybody ! JC knows ๐ I never stated that or have one post insinuating that ๐ง ๐ฅฑ๐ but your posts are confusing and muddled at times thatโs all
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by Happy Go Lucky Chap on Nov 8, 2020 14:31:56 GMT 1, ....so are we any closer to finding out if Mason Storm dis the original Monkey Parliament, or is this just a ripoff?
....so are we any closer to finding out if Mason Storm dis the original Monkey Parliament, or is this just a ripoff?
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by mrizzle on Nov 8, 2020 14:51:25 GMT 1, Interesting analysis by met once again. Definitely got me thinking. I was never in the pot for one of them anyway but a very interesting read.
Interesting analysis by met once again. Definitely got me thinking. I was never in the pot for one of them anyway but a very interesting read.
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by tab1 on Nov 8, 2020 14:57:46 GMT 1, What was the point of gdp ?๐
What was the point of gdp ?๐
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by overend on Nov 8, 2020 15:11:14 GMT 1, What was the point of gdp ?๐
Probably one of the best art shows I visited that year.
What was the point of gdp ?๐ Probably one of the best art shows I visited that year.
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by mojo on Nov 8, 2020 15:55:57 GMT 1, I reakon Banksy bought them all for the bonfire.
Seriously its not that hard to copy another artists work, in fact its relatively simple and the actual foundation of learning how to paint requires you to copy other peoples work so as to learn various techniques. I take painting classes and my tutor also teaches kids aged 7 upwards and the results are incredible, its just having the materials to hand and learning techniques.
The art is coming up with the idea in the first place, executing said idea and selling out shows for 20+ years.
It even says 'homage' 'copy' 'tribute' on one of the listings, and that is precisely what it is.
Also anybody that self proclaims themselves 'Genius' is talking absolute bollocks.
I reakon Banksy bought them all for the bonfire. Seriously its not that hard to copy another artists work, in fact its relatively simple and the actual foundation of learning how to paint requires you to copy other peoples work so as to learn various techniques. I take painting classes and my tutor also teaches kids aged 7 upwards and the results are incredible, its just having the materials to hand and learning techniques. The art is coming up with the idea in the first place, executing said idea and selling out shows for 20+ years. It even says 'homage' 'copy' 'tribute' on one of the listings, and that is precisely what it is. Also anybody that self proclaims themselves 'Genius' is talking absolute bollocks.
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by chrispa on Nov 8, 2020 17:04:15 GMT 1, In terms of the print itself, I don't think it works at all, and not sure why anyone would want it on their wall. If it was the whole image, fair enough, but the bottom left section... hmm His insta says itโs the reference piece for a larger painting that followed http://instagr.am/p/CHNr9qCnePq Is this he large painting that followed??
www.masonstormenterprises.co.uk/blog/a-new-fing#
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by inefficiency of on Nov 8, 2020 17:13:30 GMT 1, ๐ โ ๏ธ Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows....
Donโt take this forum so seriously and to heart. These arenโt your real friends, this is the internet, a good place for information and learning about new artists, shows, releases, exhibitions etc. No one is purposely out to upset you. ๐๐ป
๐ โ ๏ธ Your attention please ... An existentialist and very important question : Why nobody read my posts ? Nor answer ? LRoy knows.... Donโt take this forum so seriously and to heart. These arenโt your real friends, this is the internet, a good place for information and learning about new artists, shows, releases, exhibitions etc. No one is purposely out to upset you. ๐๐ป
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by lv90210 on Nov 8, 2020 17:13:56 GMT 1, Sold out !!
Sold out !!
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by tab1 on Nov 8, 2020 17:15:39 GMT 1,
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by kwatis on Nov 8, 2020 17:16:07 GMT 1, Sold out? Thought it is to be released on Friday the 13th?
Sold out? Thought it is to be released on Friday the 13th?
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by lv90210 on Nov 8, 2020 17:17:09 GMT 1, Sold out? Thought it is to be released on Friday the 13th?
I bet you donโt get one.
Sold out? Thought it is to be released on Friday the 13th? I bet you donโt get one.
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by irl1 on Nov 8, 2020 17:18:26 GMT 1, Sold out? Thought it is to be released on Friday the 13th? There will be some on Friday, including A.P's, 100% sure of that
Sold out? Thought it is to be released on Friday the 13th? There will be some on Friday, including A.P's, 100% sure of that
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by irl1 on Nov 8, 2020 17:20:48 GMT 1, Sold out? Thought it is to be released on Friday the 13th? I bet you donโt get one. I'll take that bet on, how much?
Looser pays it to Charity
Sold out? Thought it is to be released on Friday the 13th? I bet you donโt get one. I'll take that bet on, how much? Looser pays it to Charity
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by lv90210 on Nov 8, 2020 17:22:47 GMT 1, I bet you donโt get one. I'll take that bet on, how much?ย Looser pays it to Charityย
Last time you got quoted on a bet you sh*t yourself so your credit is about as good as your Stik at auction ๐
I bet you donโt get one. I'll take that bet on, how much?ย Looser pays it to Charityย Last time you got quoted on a bet you sh*t yourself so your credit is about as good as your Stik at auction ๐
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by kwatis on Nov 8, 2020 17:24:02 GMT 1, lv90210 that's correct. Wasn't after one and obviously since I wasn't "in the know" on the drop (other than all public sources stated the release was on Friday the 13th) was never even able to purchase if I had wanted to.
irl1 thanks for the info
Was just expressing the surprise that a drop was already sold out ahead of the public release. I understand that presales happen and about friends&family access. Guess I always assumed or hoped that there would still be some, if not a majority, available on the actual release.
lv90210 that's correct. Wasn't after one and obviously since I wasn't "in the know" on the drop (other than all public sources stated the release was on Friday the 13th) was never even able to purchase if I had wanted to. irl1 thanks for the info Was just expressing the surprise that a drop was already sold out ahead of the public release. I understand that presales happen and about friends&family access. Guess I always assumed or hoped that there would still be some, if not a majority, available on the actual release.
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by irl1 on Nov 8, 2020 17:25:52 GMT 1, I'll take that bet on, how much? Looser pays it to Charity Last time you got quoted on a bet you sh*t yourself so your credit is about as good as your Stik at auction ๐ No big balls wanted to bet a few grand, that's just showing off.
A reasonable bet and your on, I love winning a one horse race
I'll take that bet on, how much? Looser pays it to Charity Last time you got quoted on a bet you sh*t yourself so your credit is about as good as your Stik at auction ๐ No big balls wanted to bet a few grand, that's just showing off. A reasonable bet and your on, I love winning a one horse race
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by iamzero on Nov 8, 2020 17:26:11 GMT 1, Who painted the Monkey Parliament if it wasnโt Mason Storm?
Who painted the Monkey Parliament if it wasnโt Mason Storm?
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Mason Storm ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Who is Mason Storm?, by lv90210 on Nov 8, 2020 17:26:54 GMT 1, lv90210 that's correct. Wasn't after one and obviously since I wasn't "in the know" on the drop (other than all public sources stated the release was on Friday the 13th) was never even able to purchase if I had wanted to. irl1 thanks for the info Was just expressing the surprise that a drop was already sold out ahead of the public release. I understand that presales happen and about friends&family access. Guess I always assumed or hoped that there would still be some, if not a majority, available on the actual release.
Maybe youโre lucky, but I wouldnโt bet on it. These have been snapped up over the last 7-10 days.
OG sold as well.
lv90210 that's correct. Wasn't after one and obviously since I wasn't "in the know" on the drop (other than all public sources stated the release was on Friday the 13th) was never even able to purchase if I had wanted to. irl1 thanks for the info Was just expressing the surprise that a drop was already sold out ahead of the public release. I understand that presales happen and about friends&family access. Guess I always assumed or hoped that there would still be some, if not a majority, available on the actual release. Maybe youโre lucky, but I wouldnโt bet on it. These have been snapped up over the last 7-10 days. OG sold as well.
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