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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by sgolby on Aug 15, 2019 20:02:36 GMT 1, Mmmmm interesting. That Mets release thing looked to me like the majority of them were going to be flipped. Must be a simple solution to the problem ๐ but Iโm not sure what it is.
Judging by his posts it seems he is going back to analog in away. According to some members in here Banksy has a VIP program that is very hush hush, so maybe he will do something like this.
The simple fact is there is zero way around Bots, the people who make them are too too smart. Just like antivirus can never protect you from the next virus, just the last one. Anti bot systems in retail software are just not that great. so reality is the best prevention is knowing your customers and going back to analog as much as possible.
Mmmmm interesting. That Mets release thing looked to me like the majority of them were going to be flipped. Must be a simple solution to the problem ๐ but Iโm not sure what it is. Judging by his posts it seems he is going back to analog in away. According to some members in here Banksy has a VIP program that is very hush hush, so maybe he will do something like this. The simple fact is there is zero way around Bots, the people who make them are too too smart. Just like antivirus can never protect you from the next virus, just the last one. Anti bot systems in retail software are just not that great. so reality is the best prevention is knowing your customers and going back to analog as much as possible. |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by iamzero on Aug 15, 2019 20:17:53 GMT 1, I still donโt understand the myth behind the Banksy VIP list. You have to be loaded to get on it by spending money with him or itโs a list of old school buyers that many are potential flippers behind the scenes anyway (like some long-standing members on here)... in which case youโre just lining their pockets and helping them become rich. It makes no sense.
I still donโt understand the myth behind the Banksy VIP list. You have to be loaded to get on it by spending money with him or itโs a list of old school buyers that many are potential flippers behind the scenes anyway (like some long-standing members on here)... in which case youโre just lining their pockets and helping them become rich. It makes no sense.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Daniel Silk on Aug 15, 2019 20:37:30 GMT 1, I still donโt understand the myth behind the Banksy VIP list. You have to be loaded to get on it by spending money with him or itโs a list of old school buyers that many are potential flippers behind the scenes anyway (like some long-standing members on here)... in which case youโre just lining their pockets and helping them become rich. It makes no sense.
I guess it would have some sort of rule that you canโt sell anything or you will be excluded in the future, but that just means secret deals between dealers or a time when they all suddenly decide to cash in and flood the market with Banksy Prints we havenโt seen before ๐คช Crash!
I still donโt understand the myth behind the Banksy VIP list. You have to be loaded to get on it by spending money with him or itโs a list of old school buyers that many are potential flippers behind the scenes anyway (like some long-standing members on here)... in which case youโre just lining their pockets and helping them become rich. It makes no sense. Yeah, I think the same. I guess it would have some sort of rule that you canโt sell anything or you will be excluded in the future, but that just means secret deals between dealers or a time when they all suddenly decide to cash in and flood the market with Banksy Prints we havenโt seen before ๐คช Crash! |
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sgolby
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by sgolby on Aug 16, 2019 11:51:23 GMT 1,
Nope that is being sold at beyond the streets.
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Nope that is being sold at beyond the streets. S |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by coller on Aug 16, 2019 13:41:46 GMT 1, I still donโt understand the myth behind the Banksy VIP list. You have to be loaded to get on it by spending money with him or itโs a list of old school buyers that many are potential flippers behind the scenes anyway (like some long-standing members on here)... in which case youโre just lining their pockets and helping them become rich. It makes no sense.
makes sense to me. sucks that i'm probably not on that list, but i understand the logic behind it.
I still donโt understand the myth behind the Banksy VIP list. You have to be loaded to get on it by spending money with him or itโs a list of old school buyers that many are potential flippers behind the scenes anyway (like some long-standing members on here)... in which case youโre just lining their pockets and helping them become rich. It makes no sense. i imagine they have a list of collectors who they know will buy and keep prints/art, which they can probably track by who hasn't transferred their COAs in x years. the way i interpreted futura's post was that he plans on doing something similar (i.e. only selling to buyers that he knows are looking to keep the art). given the popularity of these artists, i'm sure they know enough solid collectors to make their editions go private and keep them in good hands. makes sense to me. sucks that i'm probably not on that list, but i understand the logic behind it. |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by soupy on Aug 16, 2019 15:05:39 GMT 1, the post was in reference to a bunch of tshirts, lanyards, skate decks, etc .... the way they were approaching the drops only amplified the bot presence. these items weren't limited in any way and there was more than enough inventory to meet demand (except maybe the skate decks). i mean... the drops were from an IG account with just over 3K followers. all bunch of artificially created hype imo. the drop announcements were vague... with no info on items for sale, cost, etc... people were going in blind and didn't even know what they were purchasing.
if they would have done an announced random drop and put up all inventory of each item and had 1 listing for each item.... the majority of people would have been able to purchase. not sure why anyone would want a $120 tshirt either way. decks were even $125 and not even signed. obey just released a set of 3 signed decks for $200 and they were available for purchase with ease.
the post was in reference to a bunch of tshirts, lanyards, skate decks, etc .... the way they were approaching the drops only amplified the bot presence. these items weren't limited in any way and there was more than enough inventory to meet demand (except maybe the skate decks). i mean... the drops were from an IG account with just over 3K followers. all bunch of artificially created hype imo. the drop announcements were vague... with no info on items for sale, cost, etc... people were going in blind and didn't even know what they were purchasing.
if they would have done an announced random drop and put up all inventory of each item and had 1 listing for each item.... the majority of people would have been able to purchase. not sure why anyone would want a $120 tshirt either way. decks were even $125 and not even signed. obey just released a set of 3 signed decks for $200 and they were available for purchase with ease.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by kwatis on Aug 16, 2019 18:05:26 GMT 1, Just saw this post earlier. Judging by the comments, it appears that there are possibly two editions being released for BTS NYC. Anyone have any more info?
http://instagram.com/p/B1NLn2Qhq0b
Just saw this post earlier. Judging by the comments, it appears that there are possibly two editions being released for BTS NYC. Anyone have any more info? http://instagram.com/p/B1NLn2Qhq0b |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Smokeidaeye on Aug 16, 2019 18:07:40 GMT 1, That's a huge print!
That's a huge print!
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kwatis
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by kwatis on Aug 16, 2019 21:53:51 GMT 1, Here's the four FUTURA pieces from BTS, looks like the print he's signing could be one of them, possibly the 2nd from the left...
http://instagram.com/p/By-R-TYJXG7
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by soupy on Aug 16, 2019 23:23:41 GMT 1, yes. it is a print of the canvas 2nd from the left. there was a better pic of it on his story from yesterday i think. it is a 14 color screen print. i don't think it is 2 editions (just 2 rows of prints that he was signing).... although i could be wrong.
yes. it is a print of the canvas 2nd from the left. there was a better pic of it on his story from yesterday i think. it is a 14 color screen print. i don't think it is 2 editions (just 2 rows of prints that he was signing).... although i could be wrong.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Rock it Dont Stop it on Aug 17, 2019 4:13:42 GMT 1, Very much looking forward to this print. Here's a screen shot from yesterday's story:
Very much looking forward to this print. Here's a screen shot from yesterday's story: |
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sgolby
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by sgolby on Aug 17, 2019 4:17:18 GMT 1, Very very beautiful
Very very beautiful
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sgolby
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by sgolby on Aug 17, 2019 4:17:47 GMT 1, Very very beautiful
Very very beautiful
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by Yeah Yeah Yeah Round2 on Aug 17, 2019 6:44:21 GMT 1, Iโll always be a fan of Futuraโs work but FL releases have been a bit meh. Thereโs no need to hype any of it. Itโs nice to see the label brought back again, but it was easy to purchase years ago, now itโs about creating a hype frenzy to score a lanyard. The new print looks nice.
Iโll always be a fan of Futuraโs work but FL releases have been a bit meh. Thereโs no need to hype any of it. Itโs nice to see the label brought back again, but it was easy to purchase years ago, now itโs about creating a hype frenzy to score a lanyard. The new print looks nice.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by puritog on Aug 17, 2019 15:55:59 GMT 1, IMO the latest releases were a bit about the fun in participating in Futura's small quests to buy some limited keychains or lanyards. The stuff was cool, but mostly inexpensive items that I don't think can be resold for a lot more (however you can't underestimate the hype waves). Using bots to buy all the keychains is a bit exaggerated and fucked up Futura's release game.
IMO the latest releases were a bit about the fun in participating in Futura's small quests to buy some limited keychains or lanyards. The stuff was cool, but mostly inexpensive items that I don't think can be resold for a lot more (however you can't underestimate the hype waves). Using bots to buy all the keychains is a bit exaggerated and fucked up Futura's release game.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by kwatis on Aug 21, 2019 1:11:09 GMT 1, This Thursday, August 22 at 11AM BEYOND THE STREETS NYC will be releasing IN PERSON two brand new 14-color hand pulled screen prints by @futuradosmil A very limited ONLINE release will follow on Saturday, August 24 at 9am EST. โ โ
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FUTURA: (shown L to R) 'Bedford Avenue' and 'East Broadway'โ โข 2019 โข 24โx30โ โข 14 color hand pulled print on Mohawk Superfine Ultrawhite 160 LB cover โข Deckle Edge โข Each print is an edition of 100 โข Signed by FUTURA โข Hand numbered โข BEYOND THE STREETS embossed โข COA from BEYOND THE STREETS signed by the curator Roger Gastman โข ยท
Printed by POP!NK editionsโ โ
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LIMIT 1 OF EACH PRINT PER PERSON
http://instagram.com/p/B1Zqn6Nppiv
This Thursday, August 22 at 11AM BEYOND THE STREETS NYC will be releasing IN PERSON two brand new 14-color hand pulled screen prints by @futuradosmil A very limited ONLINE release will follow on Saturday, August 24 at 9am EST. โ โ ยทโ โ FUTURA: (shown L to R) 'Bedford Avenue' and 'East Broadway'โ โข 2019 โข 24โx30โ โข 14 color hand pulled print on Mohawk Superfine Ultrawhite 160 LB cover โข Deckle Edge โข Each print is an edition of 100 โข Signed by FUTURA โข Hand numbered โข BEYOND THE STREETS embossed โข COA from BEYOND THE STREETS signed by the curator Roger Gastman โข ยท Printed by POP!NK editionsโ โ ยทโ โ LIMIT 1 OF EACH PRINT PER PERSON http://instagram.com/p/B1Zqn6Nppiv |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by kwatis on Aug 21, 2019 1:11:46 GMT 1, Damn it is two editions! Now to wait and see the price?!
Damn it is two editions! Now to wait and see the price?!
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by beicoblack on Aug 21, 2019 7:38:20 GMT 1, Heard $1,000 each...
Heard $1,000 each...
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sgolby
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by sgolby on Aug 21, 2019 16:48:35 GMT 1, pro-tip, if you are serious about this release I would suggest reserving a ticket for 11 am, so you are gauranteed entry. I think people are assuming they are just going to be able to lineup and get the print, which I do not think is going to be the case.
pro-tip, if you are serious about this release I would suggest reserving a ticket for 11 am, so you are gauranteed entry. I think people are assuming they are just going to be able to lineup and get the print, which I do not think is going to be the case.
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Nice that you can grab the set - but means they're gonna go twice as fast! |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by axel254 on Aug 21, 2019 17:14:55 GMT 1, pro-tip, if you are serious about this release I would suggest reserving a ticket for 11 am, so you are gauranteed entry. I think people are assuming they are just going to be able to lineup and get the print, which I do not think is going to be the case.
any tips for online buyer?
pro-tip, if you are serious about this release I would suggest reserving a ticket for 11 am, so you are gauranteed entry. I think people are assuming they are just going to be able to lineup and get the print, which I do not think is going to be the case. any tips for online buyer? |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by 19818914 on Aug 21, 2019 17:29:38 GMT 1, Hopefully itโs expensive.
Hopefully itโs expensive.
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by bigmclargehuge1 on Aug 21, 2019 17:44:30 GMT 1, $1000 for the set
$1000 for the set
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sgolby
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by sgolby on Aug 21, 2019 17:46:18 GMT 1, pro-tip, if you are serious about this release I would suggest reserving a ticket for 11 am, so you are gauranteed entry. I think people are assuming they are just going to be able to lineup and get the print, which I do not think is going to be the case. any tips for online buyer?
pro-tip, if you are serious about this release I would suggest reserving a ticket for 11 am, so you are gauranteed entry. I think people are assuming they are just going to be able to lineup and get the print, which I do not think is going to be the case. any tips for online buyer? Pray no one made a bot for the beyond the streets web shop. |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by axel254 on Aug 21, 2019 17:52:42 GMT 1, any tips for online buyer? Pray no one made a bot for the beyond the streets web shop.
i will pray :,)
any tips for online buyer? Pray no one made a bot for the beyond the streets web shop. i will pray :,) |
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by puritog on Aug 21, 2019 18:24:45 GMT 1, It's a shopify shop, so bots exist already
It's a shopify shop, so bots exist already
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by duggyfresh on Aug 21, 2019 19:11:19 GMT 1, Already on ebay
Already on ebay
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by crisol on Aug 22, 2019 19:23:12 GMT 1, 1000$ for each and 2000$ for the print set .. ๐ฑ
1000$ for each and 2000$ for the print set .. ๐ฑ
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sgolby
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Futura ๐บ๐ธ Leonard Hilton McGurr โข New York Graffiti Artist, by sgolby on Aug 22, 2019 19:46:06 GMT 1, There will be less than 20 of each online. Side note, the originals are 60k a picece.
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There will be less than 20 of each online. Side note, the originals are 60k a picece.
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