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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Dec 19, 2020 23:55:26 GMT 1, Thanks for that and can you confirm how many clients are currently on the list? Cheers There could be 100's on the list but all with different taste's, looking for different artist's work.. There should be no call to post this information. (and it's morally wrong from a business point if view)
Just an indication would do? I would love to own a Paul insect original one day hopefully. There's probably a list and I think the artist would give an indication of the number on the wait list? Same with prints, be good knowing just to guage what the wait is as you may decide to put the funds toward something else ๐
Thanks for that and can you confirm how many clients are currently on the list? Cheers There could be 100's on the list but all with different taste's, looking for different artist's work.. There should be no call to post this information. (and it's morally wrong from a business point if view) Just an indication would do? I would love to own a Paul insect original one day hopefully. There's probably a list and I think the artist would give an indication of the number on the wait list? Same with prints, be good knowing just to guage what the wait is as you may decide to put the funds toward something else ๐ |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Riotcops on Dec 20, 2020 0:01:54 GMT 1, There could be 100's on the list but all with different taste's, looking for different artist's work.. There should be no call to post this information. (and it's morally wrong from a business point if view) Just an indication would do? I would love to own a Paul insect original one day hopefully. There's probably a list and I think the artist would give an indication of the number on the wait list? Same with prints, be good knowing just to guage what the wait is as you may decide to put the funds toward something else ๐
Don't think we can really ask for much more transparency from AA on this, unless we want the names and address of everyone on the list? 
There could be 100's on the list but all with different taste's, looking for different artist's work.. There should be no call to post this information. (and it's morally wrong from a business point if view) Just an indication would do? I would love to own a Paul insect original one day hopefully. There's probably a list and I think the artist would give an indication of the number on the wait list? Same with prints, be good knowing just to guage what the wait is as you may decide to put the funds toward something else ๐ There are numerous originals on Artsy available right now from source. Don't think we can really ask for much more transparency from AA on this, unless we want the names and address of everyone on the list? |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by mrizzle on Dec 20, 2020 0:31:07 GMT 1, Hi guys, no! We did not sold anything yet, there is no one in the world who have bought these prints yet. But yes the pre order allocations are full, so the list with pre orders for the main and special edition are full. This don't mean that nothing will be available at launch, we will have some available at launch. So pre orders are full but the prints are not all gone. But to be completely transparent we do pre orders, for the main and special edition there are all kinds of reason to do that but they main one is that we have higher chance that way to sell to someone who won't flip it the next day, I know this sounds ironic with the discussion in this thread. With the small prints we are more happy to take this risk and that is why we decided together with the artist to release, with almost no pre orders (at least 95% will be available). Serious question. How do you become a "loyal client" when you miss out every time you are signing up for a print? I'm sure i'm not the only one on here that tried several times without any succes. And please don't say that's unlucky.  h.dupa On this one, yes we are working on this, how we can also give new potential clients the chance to become a loyal client. It helps by buying editions that are also not hyped and not everyone directly 'wants' but also we don't want you or anyone to buy something that you don't want to just get high on the list, but definitely engaging a lot with us helps, you can shoot me and email christian@avantarte.com or curtis@avantarte.com, or a message to our personal instagrams: christianluiten & curtispenning . And we can chat about art and collecting etc and get to know you, or someone else from the Bussines gets to know you. We really try to give new collectors a chance or people that have missed out on earlier launches, but hope everyone also understands that we also need to take care of loyal clients and just make sure we sell to people we can trust (and this is hard as you can see haha)
I continue to applaud your willingness to engage in constructive discussion and your transparency and honesty Christian Avant Arte. Well done.
Hi guys, no! We did not sold anything yet, there is no one in the world who have bought these prints yet. But yes the pre order allocations are full, so the list with pre orders for the main and special edition are full. This don't mean that nothing will be available at launch, we will have some available at launch. So pre orders are full but the prints are not all gone. But to be completely transparent we do pre orders, for the main and special edition there are all kinds of reason to do that but they main one is that we have higher chance that way to sell to someone who won't flip it the next day, I know this sounds ironic with the discussion in this thread. With the small prints we are more happy to take this risk and that is why we decided together with the artist to release, with almost no pre orders (at least 95% will be available). Serious question. How do you become a "loyal client" when you miss out every time you are signing up for a print? I'm sure i'm not the only one on here that tried several times without any succes. And please don't say that's unlucky. h.dupa On this one, yes we are working on this, how we can also give new potential clients the chance to become a loyal client. It helps by buying editions that are also not hyped and not everyone directly 'wants' but also we don't want you or anyone to buy something that you don't want to just get high on the list, but definitely engaging a lot with us helps, you can shoot me and email christian@avantarte.com or curtis@avantarte.com, or a message to our personal instagrams: christianluiten & curtispenning . And we can chat about art and collecting etc and get to know you, or someone else from the Bussines gets to know you. We really try to give new collectors a chance or people that have missed out on earlier launches, but hope everyone also understands that we also need to take care of loyal clients and just make sure we sell to people we can trust (and this is hard as you can see haha) I continue to applaud your willingness to engage in constructive discussion and your transparency and honesty Christian Avant Arte. Well done. |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Dec 20, 2020 2:13:14 GMT 1, Just an indication would do? I would love to own a Paul insect original one day hopefully. There's probably a list and I think the artist would give an indication of the number on the wait list? Same with prints, be good knowing just to guage what the wait is as you may decide to put the funds toward something else ๐ There are numerous originals on Artsy available right now from source.ย Don't think we can really ask for much more transparency from AA on this, unless we want the names and address of everyone on the list?
Okay okay! ๐ ๐
Just an indication would do? I would love to own a Paul insect original one day hopefully. There's probably a list and I think the artist would give an indication of the number on the wait list? Same with prints, be good knowing just to guage what the wait is as you may decide to put the funds toward something else ๐ There are numerous originals on Artsy available right now from source.ย Don't think we can really ask for much more transparency from AA on this, unless we want the names and address of everyone on the list? Okay okay! ๐ ๐ |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by d.r. perseus on Dec 20, 2020 3:39:13 GMT 1, I can say Iโve been given opportunity in past drops to pre buy PINS from Avant and they adorn my walls, loved daily. I can also say I wasnโt given the opportunity this time and thatโs ok! I agree that the love should be spread as Christian notes they try and do.
The gallery has been nothing but respectful to me and doing their best to assist my coveting.
I can say Iโve been given opportunity in past drops to pre buy PINS from Avant and they adorn my walls, loved daily. I can also say I wasnโt given the opportunity this time and thatโs ok! I agree that the love should be spread as Christian notes they try and do.
The gallery has been nothing but respectful to me and doing their best to assist my coveting.
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by iamzero on Dec 20, 2020 13:47:03 GMT 1, Anyone know what album that uses a Banksy image was made by Paul Insect?
Anyone know what album that uses a Banksy image was made by Paul Insect?
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by kawsect on Jan 5, 2021 23:25:39 GMT 1, Looks like the drop is next week!
Looks like the drop is next week!
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 17:34:21 GMT 1, Looks like the drop is next week!
if these are 20% taxable will make the blue edition nearly ยฃ3k and the red ยฃ4200.
Looks like the drop is next week! if these are 20% taxable will make the blue edition nearly ยฃ3k and the red ยฃ4200. |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by longshanks on Jan 6, 2021 17:44:33 GMT 1, Looks like the drop is next week! if these are 20% taxable will make the blue edition nearly ยฃ3k and the red ยฃ4200. 
Looks like the drop is next week! if these are 20% taxable will make the blue edition nearly ยฃ3k and the red ยฃ4200. +import fees etc. I fear this release has just crept out of reach for me |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Sunny Garcia on Jan 6, 2021 19:19:41 GMT 1, Love the size of these...36" diameter is huge for a tondo print!
Love the size of these...36" diameter is huge for a tondo print!
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by E9Boy on Jan 6, 2021 20:11:23 GMT 1, Pretty sure you pay 9% vat if in UK
Pretty sure you pay 9% vat if in UK
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by mrizzle on Jan 6, 2021 20:40:56 GMT 1, Pretty sure you pay 9% vat if in UK
Iโm hoping someone more knowledgable than me can clarify this. Iโve skim read the associated .gov page and Iโm still not entirely certain how this all works and what fees and duty needs applied. I would have anticipated it just being the same as it was for importing from outside of the U.K. and, with this not being an โoriginalโ piece of art, not having the reduced fee. I could be totally wrong though!
Pretty sure you pay 9% vat if in UK Iโm hoping someone more knowledgable than me can clarify this. Iโve skim read the associated .gov page and Iโm still not entirely certain how this all works and what fees and duty needs applied. I would have anticipated it just being the same as it was for importing from outside of the U.K. and, with this not being an โoriginalโ piece of art, not having the reduced fee. I could be totally wrong though! |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Poster Bob on Jan 6, 2021 20:57:20 GMT 1, If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price.
If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price.
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by love on Jan 6, 2021 21:16:18 GMT 1, The communication with Avantarte is the best, I really appreciate that they show up on the forums. And the blue rondo is just porn. Hope to score on 15th.
The communication with Avantarte is the best, I really appreciate that they show up on the forums. And the blue rondo is just porn. Hope to score on 15th.
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by mrizzle on Jan 6, 2021 21:34:51 GMT 1, If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price.
Really helpful Poster Bob and much appreciated reply. Thank you.
If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price. Really helpful Poster Bob and much appreciated reply. Thank you. |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Happy Shopper on Jan 6, 2021 21:45:18 GMT 1, If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price.
Or, is the UK VAT added by the EU seller now. So no more to pay when imported?
If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price. Or, is the UK VAT added by the EU seller now. So no more to pay when imported? |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by mrizzle on Jan 6, 2021 22:09:31 GMT 1, Christian Avant Arte might be able to confirm pricing/fees for us in the U.K.
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Poster Bob on Jan 6, 2021 22:10:05 GMT 1, If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price. Or, is the UK VAT added by the EU seller now. So no more to pay when imported?
If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price. Or, is the UK VAT added by the EU seller now. So no more to pay when imported? My very basic understanding from what I have read is that the EU seller adds VAT if the item is under a particular figure, which I think is ยฃ135ish. If it is over that figure VAT will be charged, at the applicable rate, when it arrives in the UK. If you're thinking of buying one of these I would email, webchat, or DM Avant Arte. I have never bought from them before but when I did ask about prints they were very polite and helpful. I'm sure they'll reply and you can share their response with us. |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Sunny Garcia on Jan 7, 2021 18:20:10 GMT 1, Anyone get lucky on the pre-sale just now?
Anyone get lucky on the pre-sale just now?
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Happy Shopper on Jan 7, 2021 18:25:28 GMT 1, Anyone get lucky on the pre-sale just now?
Nope. Card declined!
Anyone get lucky on the pre-sale just now? Nope. Card declined! |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Tommy Tucker on Jan 7, 2021 18:33:32 GMT 1, Yep, got a blue one
Yep, got a blue one
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Riotcops on Jan 7, 2021 19:18:49 GMT 1, Were the Observer ones on pre-sale too or just the main editions?
Were the Observer ones on pre-sale too or just the main editions?
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by JW on Jan 7, 2021 19:23:30 GMT 1, Were the Observer ones on pre-sale too or just the main editions?
Just the mains. Went pretty quick. They are really lovely and Avant Arte are pure class but for some reason I just couldn't pull the trigger today.
Were the Observer ones on pre-sale too or just the main editions? Just the mains. Went pretty quick. They are really lovely and Avant Arte are pure class but for some reason I just couldn't pull the trigger today. |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by E9Boy on Jan 7, 2021 19:37:07 GMT 1, Anyone get lucky on the pre-sale just now?
Yes, got a blue one too..
Anyone get lucky on the pre-sale just now? Yes, got a blue one too.. |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by kapusta on Jan 7, 2021 19:47:00 GMT 1, Wait, what? Was this announced? Was it VIP only? I emailed them about pre-sale and was denied. I don't see any emails either.
Wait, what? Was this announced? Was it VIP only? I emailed them about pre-sale and was denied. I don't see any emails either.
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by JW on Jan 7, 2021 21:45:31 GMT 1, Wow they do look really nice. I think I'm going to regret this...
Wow they do look really nice. I think I'm going to regret this...
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Sunny Garcia on Jan 7, 2021 22:13:45 GMT 1, Was the pre-sale to those on the mailing list?
Was the pre-sale to those on the mailing list? Yes, the "insiders" mailing list. |
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Icesay on Jan 7, 2021 22:15:25 GMT 1, Reading the blurb about it, japanese looped tape to secure the print in the frame, superb printing techniques and each one inspected by the artist upon packing, I'd say this has been hit out the park! 90cm circle print and fully framed. Fucking nice!
Reading the blurb about it, japanese looped tape to secure the print in the frame, superb printing techniques and each one inspected by the artist upon packing, I'd say this has been hit out the park! 90cm circle print and fully framed. Fucking nice!
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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by The Rat King on Jan 7, 2021 22:16:16 GMT 1, These guys got game ! Seems to get better each time
These guys got game ! Seems to get better each time
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