@cliffybyro I was thinking more of the whole Wabi-sabi, Tropical trends tbh… rather than retail per-se.

Not a collector, but the proud owner of a Seamaster Professional.

I just love that the lightning shaped second hand of the Milgauss.

I am very cautious of suggesting anything related to an “investment” when it comes to watches. There are some fairly safe bets but the watch world has been in a bubble for a number of years now and you’re going to pay top dollar for most desirable watches these days. Your best bet if you’re looking for an investment is to create a relationship with an AD and hope to be offered some of the more sought after pieces at cost. However, brands like Rolex know what they’re doing and demand far outweighs supply so you’re looking at a lengthy wait for something like a Batman (preferred the older bracelets personally), Submariner or Daytona for example. You are very unlikely to ever lose money with any of the “Holy Trinity” (Audemars Piguet, Vacheron Constantin and Patek Philippe). However, I think you’d also be relatively safe with A Lange & Sohne or Rolex.

However, I buy my watches to wear and ultimately my advice is to discover your preferred style and makes and buy what you’d like to wear. If it holds its money or increases in value then that’s a bonus. Oh...and don’t ever buy quartz watches. For me a huge amount of my passion for watches relates to the craftsmanship and history of a brand. Quartz watches are always going to be reliable but there’s no romance or craftsmanship behind those types of movements.

I’m no leading authority on this and, judging by some of the collections already on show, there will be others who can speak to this better than I can.

Hope that helps a little as a starter.

That’s a beauty. Reminds me a bit of the ALS Saxonia Thin. I went through a phase 2-3 years ago of buying, wearing, not enjoying (so ultimately selling) modern sports Rolexes. If I bother getting another watch, it will be something that looks just like this.

Thanks the the reply. Even the Milgauss is coming in at 1.5-2k above retail in the UK. From what I gather, for years it was a window watch and now the insane Rolex hype has pushed it onto the waiting list.

I had a video call with the AD and we seemed to get on well, we talked for an hour and he's followed up a couple of times so fingers crossed I passed the 'interview' and it won't be too long.

I really want a new watch, one I can pass down to my son and am in no real rush. I did hear that the Milgauss may be getting discontinued again so hopefully that doesn't happen anytime soon.

Offt, I love the aquanaut, proper watch.

And another thread that's becoming a dick waving contest.

If its within the budget then a good one to try and get would be a Rolex Explorer II - strongly rumoured to be discontinued/replaced with a new version soon. They don’t seem to command as much of a premium on the secondary market either.

Alternatively Tudor Black Bay 58 or Tudor Black Bay GMT are also a great entry level watch.

I think it is highly likely that you would drop money on the "Holy Trinity"

The majority of PP can be bought at under RRP, same goes for a lot of VC and AP.

Problem is that the RRP"s are all a good 5 figures and rising and there are only a few models that are worth a decent premium but the politics around trying to acquire them at RRP are on a different level. 



That's some proper dick swinging knowledge on the prices btw.....

www.rolex.com/watches/explorer.html
www.tudorwatch.com/en/watches/black-bay-fifty-eight/m79030b-0001

If the 10k is GBP you should be able to get both no problem

Logo emblem watches used to be frowned upon a few years back by collectors and could often be bought cheaper than an unmarked example .
Now in the last 5 years they have become highly sought after .
The Tiffany logos are highly sought after .

With a new market in these variants , the latest seen in Tudor black bay Qatar edition highly sought after by Tudor collectors

therake.com/stories/a-rare-tudor-the-tudor-black-bay-state-of-qatar/

www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=636386

urbanartassociation.com/board/101/chat-forum

Just to add this is on the sub forum / chat forum
specifically to discuss such topics
Right at the bottom of the home page, often missed, so not clogging up the main board, if you clicked new posts or threads might not be aware and assume posted on the main board?

Nice, bit of history between the brands
Can see on the early case design shapes of Rolex have Carried through
www.thewatchbox.com/gb/en/blog/history-of-panerai.html


www.hautetime.com/rolex-oyster-the-original-sports-watch/21263/