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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by That Print Guy on Feb 25, 2021 15:33:04 GMT 1, It's a turn of phrase, and with respect if that's the only point you want to pick up on on this thread, read it again...although it really doesn't make for very pleasant reading. ย I've been attempting not to get involved with these type of threads of late as they invariably end up in a nasty spat and lets face it we're hardly going to solve anything on here! ย My fault for rising to the bait. ย Apologies. Well, I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm quite sure the expression is "to die for". If you say your job was "literally to die for" , you literally say that it's not a turn of phrase. Since that is the meaning of "literally". Which makes your claim you had high end jobs less believable. Unless it didn't involve speaking English....
looks like you need to brush up on your vocabulary and the nuances of the English language.
It's a turn of phrase, and with respect if that's the only point you want to pick up on on this thread, read it again...although it really doesn't make for very pleasant reading. ย I've been attempting not to get involved with these type of threads of late as they invariably end up in a nasty spat and lets face it we're hardly going to solve anything on here! ย My fault for rising to the bait. ย Apologies. Well, I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm quite sure the expression is "to die for". If you say your job was "literally to die for" , you literally say that it's not a turn of phrase. Since that is the meaning of "literally". Which makes your claim you had high end jobs less believable. Unless it didn't involve speaking English.... looks like you need to brush up on your vocabulary and the nuances of the English language. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Masong on Feb 25, 2021 15:35:16 GMT 1, ffs leave it out with mojo Some of you need to take a long fucking walk ...........
In all fairness, it was a stupid statement.
ffs leave it out with mojo Some of you need to take a long fucking walk ........... In all fairness, it was a stupid statement. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by gimmeabreak on Feb 25, 2021 15:54:41 GMT 1, It's a turn of phrase, and with respect if that's the only point you want to pick up on on this thread, read it again...although it really doesn't make for very pleasant reading. I've been attempting not to get involved with these type of threads of late as they invariably end up in a nasty spat and lets face it we're hardly going to solve anything on here! My fault for rising to the bait. Apologies. Well, I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm quite sure the expression is "to die for". If you say your job was "literally to die for" , you literally say that it's not a turn of phrase. Since that is the meaning of "literally". Which makes your claim you had high end jobs less believable. Unless it didn't involve speaking English....
will leave it there
It's a turn of phrase, and with respect if that's the only point you want to pick up on on this thread, read it again...although it really doesn't make for very pleasant reading. I've been attempting not to get involved with these type of threads of late as they invariably end up in a nasty spat and lets face it we're hardly going to solve anything on here! My fault for rising to the bait. Apologies. Well, I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm quite sure the expression is "to die for". If you say your job was "literally to die for" , you literally say that it's not a turn of phrase. Since that is the meaning of "literally". Which makes your claim you had high end jobs less believable. Unless it didn't involve speaking English.... if u knew her jobs, or who she is/who she knows, u wouldnt be talkin shit will leave it there |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 15:56:12 GMT 1, I see no material of Steve Bannon making white supremacist statements in said article, nor are their are accusations in it of Steve bannon being a white supremacist. Also lol@using a far left institution as a credible source. The article at the end says there isn't direct evidence of Steve Bannon being antisemitic. But trying to discredit the ADL by calling it a "far left institution" is just sad.
I see no material of Steve Bannon making white supremacist statements in said article, nor are their are accusations in it of Steve bannon being a white supremacist. Also lol@using a far left institution as a credible source. The article at the end says there isn't direct evidence of Steve Bannon being antisemitic. But trying to discredit the ADL by calling it a "far left institution" is just sad. The ADL and the SPLC have completely discredited themselves with the pursuits of Keith Ellison, Maajid Nawaz and many others. Neither of them represent the liberal societies they once worked for, same with the ACLU. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Dive Jedi on Feb 25, 2021 16:09:32 GMT 1, Well, I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm quite sure the expression is "to die for". If you say your job was "literally to die for" , you literally say that it's not a turn of phrase. Since that is the meaning of "literally". Which makes your claim you had high end jobs less believable. Unless it didn't involve speaking English.... That is definitely not true. As I am not a native speaker either, I'll let Merriam-Webster do the explaining:
"Can literally mean figuratively?
One of the definitions of literally that we provide is "in effect, virtuallyโused in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Some find this objectionable on the grounds that it is not the primary meaning of the word, "with the meaning of each individual word given exactly." However, this extended definition of literally is commonly used and is not quite the same meaning as figuratively ("with a meaning that is metaphorical rather than literal").
Is the extended use of literally new?
The "in effect; virtually" meaning of literally is not a new sense. It has been in regular use since the 18th century and may be found in the writings of Mark Twain, Charlotte Brontรซ, James Joyce, and many others.
Is the extended use of literally slang?
Among the meaning of literally is one which many people find problematic: "in effect, virtuallyโused in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Neither this nor any of the other meanings of literally is what we would consider slang. This sense has been in standard use by many esteemed writers since the 18th century."
But the expression "to die for" is already very much exaggerating, since this is already not true or possible.
So to throw in an extra "literally" into the mix is getting rather ridicoulous.
If "I had a jov that was to die for" doesn't do justice to her curriculum in such a way it needed an extra "literally" I'm very much intriged to what those jobs were.
Not sure if irl1 is referring to me, but I think Mojo can hold her own in a grammar discussion.
Well, I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm quite sure the expression is "to die for". If you say your job was "literally to die for" , you literally say that it's not a turn of phrase. Since that is the meaning of "literally". Which makes your claim you had high end jobs less believable. Unless it didn't involve speaking English.... That is definitely not true. As I am not a native speaker either, I'll let Merriam-Webster do the explaining:
"Can literally mean figuratively?
One of the definitions of literally that we provide is "in effect, virtuallyโused in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Some find this objectionable on the grounds that it is not the primary meaning of the word, "with the meaning of each individual word given exactly." However, this extended definition of literally is commonly used and is not quite the same meaning as figuratively ("with a meaning that is metaphorical rather than literal").
Is the extended use of literally new?
The "in effect; virtually" meaning of literally is not a new sense. It has been in regular use since the 18th century and may be found in the writings of Mark Twain, Charlotte Brontรซ, James Joyce, and many others.
Is the extended use of literally slang?
Among the meaning of literally is one which many people find problematic: "in effect, virtuallyโused in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Neither this nor any of the other meanings of literally is what we would consider slang. This sense has been in standard use by many esteemed writers since the 18th century."
Fair enough. But the expression "to die for" is already very much exaggerating, since this is already not true or possible. So to throw in an extra "literally" into the mix is getting rather ridicoulous. If "I had a jov that was to die for" doesn't do justice to her curriculum in such a way it needed an extra "literally" I'm very much intriged to what those jobs were. Not sure if irl1 is referring to me, but I think Mojo can hold her own in a grammar discussion. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by put the kettle on on Feb 25, 2021 17:02:13 GMT 1, .
oops!
Its just an individual embarassing themselves like any article or youtube clip that other members on a art forum (I mean you could not make it up) put on here to justify there ideology on race, like racism in all its forms is something new. Hey folks we've got a new way to tackle the problem of racism, lets call a lot of white people out as white privileged or white supremacist, We basically know what they alluding to right. I mean a Lot of black people agree that this is just wrong for a multitude of reasons and we know what they get called too, the left love a label its quite clear and to point fingers at people who they have know idea whats in there heart or mind. If you cant see that and you continue with this way of thinking you are only going one way...
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Its just an individual embarassing themselves like any article or youtube clip that other members on a art forum (I mean you could not make it up) put on here to justify there ideology on race, like racism in all its forms is something new. Hey folks we've got a new way to tackle the problem of racism, lets call a lot of white people out as white privileged or white supremacist, We basically know what they alluding to right. I mean a Lot of black people agree that this is just wrong for a multitude of reasons and we know what they get called too, the left love a label its quite clear and to point fingers at people who they have know idea whats in there heart or mind. If you cant see that and you continue with this way of thinking you are only going one way...
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Daylight Robber on Feb 25, 2021 17:20:49 GMT 1, . oops! Its just an individual embarassing themselves like any article or youtube clip that other members on a art forum (I mean you could not make it up) put on here to justify there ideology on race, like racism in all its forms is something new. Hey folks we've got a new way to tackle the problem of racism, lets call a lot of white people out as white privileged or white supremacist, We basically know what they alluding to right. I mean a Lot of black people agree that this is just wrong for a multitude of reasons and we know what they get called too, the left love a label its quite clear and to point fingers at people who they have know idea whats in there heart or mind. If you cant see that and you continue with this way of thinking you are only going one way...
. oops! Its just an individual embarassing themselves like any article or youtube clip that other members on a art forum (I mean you could not make it up) put on here to justify there ideology on race, like racism in all its forms is something new. Hey folks we've got a new way to tackle the problem of racism, lets call a lot of white people out as white privileged or white supremacist, We basically know what they alluding to right. I mean a Lot of black people agree that this is just wrong for a multitude of reasons and we know what they get called too, the left love a label its quite clear and to point fingers at people who they have know idea whats in there heart or mind. If you cant see that and you continue with this way of thinking you are only going one way... If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Daylight Robber on Feb 25, 2021 17:21:50 GMT 1, And as for Fox News....
And as for Fox News....
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 17:45:10 GMT 1, . oops! Its just an individual embarassing themselves like any article or youtube clip that other members on a art forum (I mean you could not make it up) put on here to justify there ideology on race, like racism in all its forms is something new. Hey folks we've got a new way to tackle the problem of racism, lets call a lot of white people out as white privileged or white supremacist, We basically know what they alluding to right. I mean a Lot of black people agree that this is just wrong for a multitude of reasons and we know what they get called too, the left love a label its quite clear and to point fingers at people who they have know idea whats in there heart or mind. If you cant see that and you continue with this way of thinking you are only going one way... If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made.
The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.
If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.
. oops! Its just an individual embarassing themselves like any article or youtube clip that other members on a art forum (I mean you could not make it up) put on here to justify there ideology on race, like racism in all its forms is something new. Hey folks we've got a new way to tackle the problem of racism, lets call a lot of white people out as white privileged or white supremacist, We basically know what they alluding to right. I mean a Lot of black people agree that this is just wrong for a multitude of reasons and we know what they get called too, the left love a label its quite clear and to point fingers at people who they have know idea whats in there heart or mind. If you cant see that and you continue with this way of thinking you are only going one way... If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism. If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by irl1 on Feb 25, 2021 19:46:20 GMT 1, This is now, quite literally, the worst thread I've seen in 15 years of UAA.
This needs a bump
This is now, quite literally, the worst thread I've seen in 15 years of UAA. This needs a bump |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by House of Arts on Feb 25, 2021 22:57:00 GMT 1, It's ok to feel the way you do. It's not really your fault that you think these ideas are anywhere on the spectrum of what most people would consider a respectful and equal unification of people from various backgrounds. For a lot of you, you were raised this way. It's been bred into you. You have the power to work hard and reap the dream that you've been sold. The world is a harsh place and you deserve a better lot in life than those "others" because they're "lazy" and "cheating the system". This all seems perfectly rational to you because it's your base frame of reference. "They" deserve what they get. You've been told that everyone has the same opportunity and that controls are in place to level the playing field for all types of people (even though you know these kinds of controls aren't really necessary because gosh darn it if you work hard enough, you WILL live the dream). It's ok that you feel so strongly that this is the case. It's also ok to change your mind. You're fighting against a clear message to unify by disingenuously calling it dividing. I'm talking to all of you, you know who you are.
It's ok to feel the way you do. It's not really your fault that you think these ideas are anywhere on the spectrum of what most people would consider a respectful and equal unification of people from various backgrounds. For a lot of you, you were raised this way. It's been bred into you. You have the power to work hard and reap the dream that you've been sold. The world is a harsh place and you deserve a better lot in life than those "others" because they're "lazy" and "cheating the system". This all seems perfectly rational to you because it's your base frame of reference. "They" deserve what they get. You've been told that everyone has the same opportunity and that controls are in place to level the playing field for all types of people (even though you know these kinds of controls aren't really necessary because gosh darn it if you work hard enough, you WILL live the dream). It's ok that you feel so strongly that this is the case. It's also ok to change your mind. You're fighting against a clear message to unify by disingenuously calling it dividing. I'm talking to all of you, you know who you are. Bred into you? That's the first actual racist thing that's been said in this thread. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by That Print Guy on Feb 25, 2021 23:06:32 GMT 1, If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย
now all your arguments make sense, you have all the right talking points for your platform, kudos. Go ahead and tell me that equality is a leftist belief, please.
If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย now all your arguments make sense, you have all the right talking points for your platform, kudos. Go ahead and tell me that equality is a leftist belief, please. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 23:08:15 GMT 1, There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is.
The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย now all your arguments make sense, you have all the right talking points for your platform, kudos. Go ahead and tell me that equality is a leftist belief, please.
There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย now all your arguments make sense, you have all the right talking points for your platform, kudos. Go ahead and tell me that equality is a leftist belief, please. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by That Print Guy on Feb 25, 2021 23:09:32 GMT 1, There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. now all your arguments make sense, you have all the right talking points for your platform, kudos. Go ahead and tell me that equality is a leftist belief, please.
it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it.
But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better
There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. now all your arguments make sense, you have all the right talking points for your platform, kudos. Go ahead and tell me that equality is a leftist belief, please. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by That Print Guy on Feb 25, 2021 23:13:43 GMT 1, It's ok to feel the way you do. It's not really your fault that you think these ideas are anywhere on the spectrum of what most people would consider a respectful and equal unification of people from various backgrounds. For a lot of you, you were raised this way. It's been bred into you. You have the power to work hard and reap the dream that you've been sold. The world is a harsh place and you deserve a better lot in life than those "others" because they're "lazy" and "cheating the system". This all seems perfectly rational to you because it's your base frame of reference. "They" deserve what they get. You've been told that everyone has the same opportunity and that controls are in place to level the playing field for all types of people (even though you know these kinds of controls aren't really necessary because gosh darn it if you work hard enough, you WILL live the dream). It's ok that you feel so strongly that this is the case. It's also ok to change your mind. You're fighting against a clear message to unify by disingenuously calling it dividing. I'm talking to all of you, you know who you are. Bred into you? That's the first actual racist thing that's been said in this thread.
it's ok to feel the way you do my friend, it's not your fault. But you can make adjustments, you're not stuck, I promise.
It's ok to feel the way you do. It's not really your fault that you think these ideas are anywhere on the spectrum of what most people would consider a respectful and equal unification of people from various backgrounds. For a lot of you, you were raised this way. It's been bred into you. You have the power to work hard and reap the dream that you've been sold. The world is a harsh place and you deserve a better lot in life than those "others" because they're "lazy" and "cheating the system". This all seems perfectly rational to you because it's your base frame of reference. "They" deserve what they get. You've been told that everyone has the same opportunity and that controls are in place to level the playing field for all types of people (even though you know these kinds of controls aren't really necessary because gosh darn it if you work hard enough, you WILL live the dream). It's ok that you feel so strongly that this is the case. It's also ok to change your mind. You're fighting against a clear message to unify by disingenuously calling it dividing. I'm talking to all of you, you know who you are. Bred into you? That's the first actual racist thing that's been said in this thread. it's ok to feel the way you do my friend, it's not your fault. But you can make adjustments, you're not stuck, I promise. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by d.r. perseus on Feb 25, 2021 23:22:47 GMT 1, There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better
In your posts you just keep begging for others to come to the conclusion you want them to have so you can โeducate us.โ .
We get it. All white people are racist. This is the starting point that bob is pointing out as a non starter.
There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better In your posts you just keep begging for others to come to the conclusion you want them to have so you can โeducate us.โ . We get it. All white people are racist. This is the starting point that bob is pointing out as a non starter. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by That Print Guy on Feb 25, 2021 23:25:41 GMT 1, it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better In your posts you just keep begging for others to come to the conclusion you want them to have so you can โeducate us.โ . We get it. All white people are racist. This is the starting point that bob is pointing out as a non starter.
hmm, no one said that, maybe that's why you're hung up. Is that what you believe?
it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better In your posts you just keep begging for others to come to the conclusion you want them to have so you can โeducate us.โ . We get it. All white people are racist. This is the starting point that bob is pointing out as a non starter. hmm, no one said that, maybe that's why you're hung up. Is that what you believe? |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 23:26:16 GMT 1, At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better.
There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better
At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better. There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by That Print Guy on Feb 25, 2021 23:27:36 GMT 1, At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better
"Equity"
At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better "Equity" |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by That Print Guy on Feb 25, 2021 23:29:52 GMT 1, recent poll of dems/reps about things of concern in our country (USA) makes total sense, the right is concerned about real things, the left is concerned about us ๐  
Funny you say that because when you read down the list of items, the real things are in the bottom and things based on fear and the exact way of thinking that's in question in this thread is on the top. Weird.
recent poll of dems/reps about things of concern in our country (USA) makes total sense, the right is concerned about real things, the left is concerned about us ๐ Funny you say that because when you read down the list of items, the real things are in the bottom and things based on fear and the exact way of thinking that's in question in this thread is on the top. Weird. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 23:32:28 GMT 1, Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome.
At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better. "Equity"
Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better. "Equity" |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by That Print Guy on Feb 25, 2021 23:34:29 GMT 1, Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome.
ah I see, so if one group of people is at a systematic disadvantage when compared to others, then you would agree that those people should be entitled to an equality of opportunity?
You're almost there.
Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. ah I see, so if one group of people is at a systematic disadvantage when compared to others, then you would agree that those people should be entitled to an equality of opportunity? You're almost there. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Daylight Robber on Feb 25, 2021 23:50:01 GMT 1, If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย
Utter tosh. All white people aren't guilty by default and I don't think many think this way. Societies have a lot of levelling up to do, but individuals are only guilty if they abuse privilege or fail to acknowledge there is a problem within society.
There is no witch hunt from the left. And there is no slandering of entire races coming from those who are appalled by discrimination.
You might be right that it may be impossible to atone for historical injustices but that's no reason to not endeavour.
If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย Utter tosh. All white people aren't guilty by default and I don't think many think this way. Societies have a lot of levelling up to do, but individuals are only guilty if they abuse privilege or fail to acknowledge there is a problem within society. There is no witch hunt from the left. And there is no slandering of entire races coming from those who are appalled by discrimination. You might be right that it may be impossible to atone for historical injustices but that's no reason to not endeavour. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by d.r. perseus on Feb 25, 2021 23:54:22 GMT 1, In your posts you just keep begging for others to come to the conclusion you want them to have so you can โeducate us.โ . We get it. All white people are racist. This is the starting point that bob is pointing out as a non starter. hmm, no one said that, maybe that's why you're hung up. Is that what you believe?
I can find plenty of posts and writings that espouse this very belief. You really arenโt very close to the arguments that are being made.
In your posts you just keep begging for others to come to the conclusion you want them to have so you can โeducate us.โ . We get it. All white people are racist. This is the starting point that bob is pointing out as a non starter. hmm, no one said that, maybe that's why you're hung up. Is that what you believe? I can find plenty of posts and writings that espouse this very belief. You really arenโt very close to the arguments that are being made. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 0:03:15 GMT 1, It seems that you have not had much exposure to how people are indoctrinated into the lies of white privilege and whiteness. You are made to admit your complicity, regardless of your beliefs and personal virtues in order to become an "ally".
It's racist, pure and simple. If the same logic was applied to other races the left would be appalled.
The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย Utter tosh. All white people aren't guilty by default and I don't think many think this way. Societies have a lot of levelling up to do, but individuals are only guilty if they abuse privilege or fail to acknowledge there is a problem within society. There is no witch hunt from the left. And there is no slandering of entire races coming from those who are appalled by discrimination. You might be right that it may be impossible to atone for historical injustices but that's no reason to not endeavour.
It seems that you have not had much exposure to how people are indoctrinated into the lies of white privilege and whiteness. You are made to admit your complicity, regardless of your beliefs and personal virtues in order to become an "ally". It's racist, pure and simple. If the same logic was applied to other races the left would be appalled. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย Utter tosh. All white people aren't guilty by default and I don't think many think this way. Societies have a lot of levelling up to do, but individuals are only guilty if they abuse privilege or fail to acknowledge there is a problem within society. There is no witch hunt from the left. And there is no slandering of entire races coming from those who are appalled by discrimination. You might be right that it may be impossible to atone for historical injustices but that's no reason to not endeavour. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Pawel on Feb 26, 2021 0:04:32 GMT 1, I have no idea what this thread is about but i have a hinch this will be relevant
The bottom text says โ white heterosexual Polish maleโ and then you have
LGBT Islam atheists gender
west feminists lefties
women Jews Liberalism Marxism
Harry Potter Owsiak* Pokemons
*Jerzy owsiak is creator of the biggest annual charity event in Poland who for some reason is neglected by the current government
I have no idea what this thread is about but i have a hinch this will be relevant The bottom text says โ white heterosexual Polish maleโ and then you have LGBT Islam atheists gender west feminists lefties women Jews Liberalism Marxism Harry Potter Owsiak* Pokemons *Jerzy owsiak is creator of the biggest annual charity event in Poland who for some reason is neglected by the current government |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by d.r. perseus on Feb 26, 2021 0:05:51 GMT 1, http://instagram.com/p/CJmYj00nuOK
Nope. Nobody thinks like this.
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by WOOF on Feb 26, 2021 0:11:09 GMT 1, recent poll of dems/reps about things of concern in our country (USA) makes total sense, the right is concerned about real things, the left is concerned about us ๐
Room temperature i.q.
recent poll of dems/reps about things of concern in our country (USA) makes total sense, the right is concerned about real things, the left is concerned about us ๐ Room temperature i.q. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 0:11:20 GMT 1, Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia.
Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. ah I see, so if one group of people is at a systematic disadvantage when compared to others, then you would agree that those people should be entitled to an equality of opportunity? You're almost there.
Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia. Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. ah I see, so if one group of people is at a systematic disadvantage when compared to others, then you would agree that those people should be entitled to an equality of opportunity? You're almost there. |
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by WOOF on Feb 26, 2021 0:30:02 GMT 1, I'm a mexican supremacist. We really are the best. My pride comes from my parents and their parents before them. Anyone who feels deserving, should feel pride of their heritage. Regardless if they are white, black, or even british. Viva La Raza Also the print is shit, but for $50 it's hard to be a bad deal.
Do you know what supremacist means? Hint: it's not "pride."
I'm a mexican supremacist. We really are the best. My pride comes from my parents and their parents before them. Anyone who feels deserving, should feel pride of their heritage. Regardless if they are white, black, or even british. Viva La Raza Also the print is shit, but for $50 it's hard to be a bad deal. Do you know what supremacist means? Hint: it's not "pride." |
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