mrizzle
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 18:42:33 GMT 1
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New Pez, by mrizzle on Feb 18, 2021 18:42:33 GMT 1, I struck out on the main edition but going to pick up Hiroshima and Danger mini prints. I actually think they are two of his best pieces and was hoping he might release them at some stage. Iโm not so in love with View Point and just need to decide if Iโll kick myself for not picking up the whole set.
I struck out on the main edition but going to pick up Hiroshima and Danger mini prints. I actually think they are two of his best pieces and was hoping he might release them at some stage. Iโm not so in love with View Point and just need to decide if Iโll kick myself for not picking up the whole set.
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Matt 2 ttaM
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 18:43:52 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Matt 2 ttaM on Feb 18, 2021 18:43:52 GMT 1, Got the 3 mini prints, shipping is brutal, 60ยฃ? Yikes. Might not be an issue but everything sold out quick, so how come there is nothing to buffer bots ? I never understood why with print drops its always such a free for all. I mean *insert joke* Banksyโs captcha system seems pretty good, to verify youโre a human travel to Palestine, prove you need sleep and then voila, access to a print or painted wall section.
Got the 3 mini prints, shipping is brutal, 60ยฃ ? Yikes. Might not be an issue but everything sold out quick, so how come there is nothing to buffer bots ? I never understood why with print drops its always such a free for all. I mean *insert joke* Banksyโs captcha system seems pretty good, to verify youโre a human travel to Palestine, prove you need sleep and then voila, access to a print or painted wall section.
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Winks
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 18:49:42 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Winks on Feb 18, 2021 18:49:42 GMT 1, @graffiti Prints ... I kept refreshing on the 2 Variants.... They never changed over, they stayed "Coming Soon," but if you then opened up a new window they showed Sold Out, availability went from Coming Soon apparently to sold out? Every single copy Pre-Sold?ย Can you do everyone a favor and just be transparent about pre-sales like Avante. I would be more inclined not to cancel a meeting and waste time and money to try for something never available.ย Screenshot from the original page I opened, that still shows "Coming Soon," but if you open up new release section goes to "Sold Out"ย Is your system not able to refresh on the item page? Do you have to refresh the new release section and not the specific item page?ย
Donโt they change the page at the last minute to foil bots or something
@graffiti Prints ... I kept refreshing on the 2 Variants.... They never changed over, they stayed "Coming Soon," but if you then opened up a new window they showed Sold Out, availability went from Coming Soon apparently to sold out? Every single copy Pre-Sold?ย Can you do everyone a favor and just be transparent about pre-sales like Avante. I would be more inclined not to cancel a meeting and waste time and money to try for something never available.ย Screenshot from the original page I opened, that still shows "Coming Soon," but if you open up new release section goes to "Sold Out"ย Is your system not able to refresh on the item page? Do you have to refresh the new release section and not the specific item page?ย Donโt they change the page at the last minute to foil bots or something
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apprint
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 18:49:54 GMT 1
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New Pez, by apprint on Feb 18, 2021 18:49:54 GMT 1, All were available. Just gone in secs. I'm usually quick enough, but the pay button didn't work for me, never experienced that before, strange it was on the general release too. Did anyone in the uk get one?
Those was sold one when the buy key was there...
All were available. Just gone in secs. I'm usually quick enough, but the pay button didn't work for me, never experienced that before, strange it was on the general release too. Did anyone in the uk get one? Those was sold one when the buy key was there...
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koala
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 18:58:00 GMT 1
New Pez, by koala on Feb 18, 2021 18:58:00 GMT 1, I struck out on the main edition but going to pick up Hiroshima and Danger mini prints. I actually think they are two of his best pieces and was hoping he might release them at some stage. Iโm not so in love with View Point and just need to decide if Iโll kick myself for not picking up the whole set. Same set. As always good sir!
I struck out on the main edition but going to pick up Hiroshima and Danger mini prints. I actually think they are two of his best pieces and was hoping he might release them at some stage. Iโm not so in love with View Point and just need to decide if Iโll kick myself for not picking up the whole set. Same set. As always good sir!
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Geezer Mate
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 19:29:32 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Geezer Mate on Feb 18, 2021 19:29:32 GMT 1, I actually prefer the three smaller ones very nice
I actually prefer the three smaller ones very nice
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Icesay
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 19:53:42 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Icesay on Feb 18, 2021 19:53:42 GMT 1, 2 pages of kicking off about vat... no-one really showing love for the image, smacks of people losing out on a flip. Personally can't get over the weird hand on the right of the image.
2 pages of kicking off about vat... no-one really showing love for the image, smacks of people losing out on a flip. Personally can't get over the weird hand on the right of the image.
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gmidd
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 19:57:03 GMT 1
New Pez, by gmidd on Feb 18, 2021 19:57:03 GMT 1, Personally can't get over the weird hand on the right of the image. Man, considering how hard it is to draw hands, I think they actually look pretty good, haha.
Personally can't get over the weird hand on the right of the image. Man, considering how hard it is to draw hands, I think they actually look pretty good, haha.
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borki
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 20:25:12 GMT 1
New Pez, by borki on Feb 18, 2021 20:25:12 GMT 1, Got the 3 mini prints, shipping is brutal, 60ยฃ ? Yikes. Might not be an issue but everything sold out quick, so how come there is nothing to buffer bots ? I never understood why with print drops its always such a free for all. I mean *insert joke* Banksyโs captcha system seems pretty good, to verify youโre a human travel to Palestine, prove you need sleep and then voila, access to a print or painted wall section. I got also all 3 mini prints. Was surprised about shipping cost 60ยฃ for all so at the end decided to order each print separately with shipment in mini tube for 15ยฃ each. Not much but at least saved something for beer
Got the 3 mini prints, shipping is brutal, 60ยฃ ? Yikes. Might not be an issue but everything sold out quick, so how come there is nothing to buffer bots ? I never understood why with print drops its always such a free for all. I mean *insert joke* Banksyโs captcha system seems pretty good, to verify youโre a human travel to Palestine, prove you need sleep and then voila, access to a print or painted wall section. I got also all 3 mini prints. Was surprised about shipping cost 60ยฃ for all so at the end decided to order each print separately with shipment in mini tube for 15ยฃ each. Not much but at least saved something for beer
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veebo
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 20:35:58 GMT 1
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New Pez, by veebo on Feb 18, 2021 20:35:58 GMT 1, On Instagram they said they are cancelling all the bot orders. Advising people to email them and they will allocate over the weekend.
On Instagram they said they are cancelling all the bot orders. Advising people to email them and they will allocate over the weekend.
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soupy
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 20:48:52 GMT 1
New Pez, by soupy on Feb 18, 2021 20:48:52 GMT 1, Inknart ... wasn't GP. check out their IG. they refunded something like ยฃ28K for bot orders. i think bots were eating up inventory before the pages went live. not sure if anyone successfully made a purchase. i didn't even see the ATC button. a few friends tried and got as far as adding to cart, but that's about it.
GP is probably better off taking down the listings and re-upping new product listings at drop similar to what they did with MW stag. at least that one seemed like ya had a shot.
Inknart ... wasn't GP. check out their IG. they refunded something like ยฃ28K for bot orders. i think bots were eating up inventory before the pages went live. not sure if anyone successfully made a purchase. i didn't even see the ATC button. a few friends tried and got as far as adding to cart, but that's about it. GP is probably better off taking down the listings and re-upping new product listings at drop similar to what they did with MW stag. at least that one seemed like ya had a shot.
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 21:05:36 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Feels Good Man 84 on Feb 18, 2021 21:05:36 GMT 1, Keep giving preales to Same people over and over make people get desperate and take chances using bots.
I think the lotteries were better
Keep giving preales to Same people over and over make people get desperate and take chances using bots.
I think the lotteries were better
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soupy
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 21:20:05 GMT 1
New Pez, by soupy on Feb 18, 2021 21:20:05 GMT 1, Keep giving preales to Same people over and over make people get desperate and take chances using bots. I think the lotteries were better lol @ thinking presales have any reason for what happened. the bots weren't an act of desperation. its a buncha sneakerheads that are catching wind of drops. feel free to peruse "grapeape34" IG account. and lotteries are a joke. they are the worst. just makes you think you have a fair shot when ya get less than 0% of chance.
from grapeape34 on GP's IG post: "Lmao at you acting like you know anything about botting or how to even work your own website. You load the stock that makes it where it can be bought at any time before the release once the page is created. I DMโd you and told and showed you it to try and help. Then you wait til a minute past release time to make it live on the front end to try and catch someone using the variant"
Keep giving preales to Same people over and over make people get desperate and take chances using bots. I think the lotteries were better lol @ thinking presales have any reason for what happened. the bots weren't an act of desperation. its a buncha sneakerheads that are catching wind of drops. feel free to peruse " grapeape34" IG account. and lotteries are a joke. they are the worst. just makes you think you have a fair shot when ya get less than 0% of chance. from grapeape34 on GP's IG post: "Lmao at you acting like you know anything about botting or how to even work your own website. You load the stock that makes it where it can be bought at any time before the release once the page is created. I DMโd you and told and showed you it to try and help. Then you wait til a minute past release time to make it live on the front end to try and catch someone using the variant"
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New Pez
Feb 18, 2021 21:48:21 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Feels Good Man 84 on Feb 18, 2021 21:48:21 GMT 1, How would you fix it then?
How would you fix it then?
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soupy
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 13:41:39 GMT 1
New Pez, by soupy on Feb 19, 2021 13:41:39 GMT 1, How would you fix it then? there are a number of things that can help.... bots & their programmers hate uncertainty. keep them guessing. GP has done them in the past. taking down listings, reupping new ones, no name/pic identifiers, create unique required actions for cart/checkout (not captchas) etc. you need to be creative and unpredictable. if you have a reputation to make it difficult on drops, they are less likely to use them.
How would you fix it then? there are a number of things that can help.... bots & their programmers hate uncertainty. keep them guessing. GP has done them in the past. taking down listings, reupping new ones, no name/pic identifiers, create unique required actions for cart/checkout (not captchas) etc. you need to be creative and unpredictable. if you have a reputation to make it difficult on drops, they are less likely to use them.
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gavatron
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 14:31:12 GMT 1
New Pez, by gavatron on Feb 19, 2021 14:31:12 GMT 1, its much easier to destroy than to create here, I can't see anything being able to be done from an IT sense to prevent bots>manual. It's a problem no-one has been able to devise a fix for yet. The future is likely going to be retail items going directly to platforms like StockX
Just going to have to suck it up
its much easier to destroy than to create here, I can't see anything being able to be done from an IT sense to prevent bots>manual. It's a problem no-one has been able to devise a fix for yet. The future is likely going to be retail items going directly to platforms like StockX
Just going to have to suck it up
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Yabadabdo
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 14:40:28 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Yabadabdo on Feb 19, 2021 14:40:28 GMT 1, How would you fix it then? there are a number of things that can help.... bots & their programmers hate uncertainty. ย keep them guessing. ย GP has done them in the past. ย taking down listings, reupping new ones, no name/pic identifiers, create unique required actions for cart/checkout (not captchas) etc. ย you need to be creative and unpredictable. ย if you have a reputation to make it difficult on drops, they are less likely to use them.
The last whatson drop seemed to work well, many fans won without a bot.
How would you fix it then? there are a number of things that can help.... bots & their programmers hate uncertainty. ย keep them guessing. ย GP has done them in the past. ย taking down listings, reupping new ones, no name/pic identifiers, create unique required actions for cart/checkout (not captchas) etc. ย you need to be creative and unpredictable. ย if you have a reputation to make it difficult on drops, they are less likely to use them. The last whatson drop seemed to work well, many fans won without a bot.
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clueless
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 14:51:21 GMT 1
New Pez, by clueless on Feb 19, 2021 14:51:21 GMT 1, Anyone trying to flip a double trouble? hop in my inbox
Anyone trying to flip a double trouble? hop in my inbox
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soupy
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 15:33:31 GMT 1
New Pez, by soupy on Feb 19, 2021 15:33:31 GMT 1, I can't see anything being able to be done from an IT sense to prevent bots>manual. It's a problem no-one has been able to devise a fix for yet. there are lots of things that can be done. it just takes time/resources to customize drops.. but also to track/blacklist/block.
I can't see anything being able to be done from an IT sense to prevent bots>manual. It's a problem no-one has been able to devise a fix for yet. there are lots of things that can be done. it just takes time/resources to customize drops.. but also to track/blacklist/block.
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tahitimini
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 15:41:35 GMT 1
New Pez, by tahitimini on Feb 19, 2021 15:41:35 GMT 1, since they don't make a drop every day, I would expect them to prepare each drop well and lock out bots. In the end, they lose their reputation with the customers and the artists. The artists also get negative comments on their Instagram for every fucked up drop. This is not the first time they have problems with bots but the first time that more or less only bots have won *g*
since they don't make a drop every day, I would expect them to prepare each drop well and lock out bots. In the end, they lose their reputation with the customers and the artists. The artists also get negative comments on their Instagram for every fucked up drop. This is not the first time they have problems with bots but the first time that more or less only bots have won *g*
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gavatron
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 15:47:34 GMT 1
New Pez, by gavatron on Feb 19, 2021 15:47:34 GMT 1, its much easier to destroy than to create here, I can't see anything being able to be done from an IT sense to prevent bots>manual. It's a problem no-one has been able to devise a fix for yet. The future is likely going to be retail items going directly to platforms like StockX Just going to have to suck it up Sms verification is a starting point I can't imagine any suggestion coming up that can't be mostly automated to make it faster than doing it manually
its much easier to destroy than to create here, I can't see anything being able to be done from an IT sense to prevent bots>manual. It's a problem no-one has been able to devise a fix for yet. The future is likely going to be retail items going directly to platforms like StockX Just going to have to suck it up Sms verification is a starting point I can't imagine any suggestion coming up that can't be mostly automated to make it faster than doing it manually
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acaipride
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 16:09:51 GMT 1
New Pez, by acaipride on Feb 19, 2021 16:09:51 GMT 1, Call order in, verify details for the customer.
This is the fix, it just requires more time and devotion of the artist and print house, I would say print house mostly...but this fix is nvr going to happen " And waste all this time for one print? We can sell 150 in 2 minutes, can't imagine vetting 150 phone calls". Actual conversation with one of the lovely print houses on here..keeping it civil, I won't mention the name. But that is the reality,..profits and the time it takes to achieve the same results. As long as the sell out, they can care less more.
Call order in, verify details for the customer. This is the fix, it just requires more time and devotion of the artist and print house, I would say print house mostly...but this fix is nvr going to happen " And waste all this time for one print? We can sell 150 in 2 minutes, can't imagine vetting 150 phone calls". Actual conversation with one of the lovely print houses on here..keeping it civil, I won't mention the name. But that is the reality,..profits and the time it takes to achieve the same results. As long as the sell out, they can care less more.
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gavatron
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 16:17:19 GMT 1
New Pez, by gavatron on Feb 19, 2021 16:17:19 GMT 1, Call order in, verify details for the customer. This is the fix, it just requires more time and devotion of the artist and print house, I would say print house mostly...but this fix is nvr going to happen " And waste all this time for one print? We can sell 150 in 2 minutes, can't imagine vetting 150 phone calls". Actual conversation with one of the lovely print houses on here..keeping it civil, I won't mention the name. But that is the reality,..profits and the time it takes to achieve the same results. As long as the sell out, they can care less more.
Bot folks would just hire a service desk company to handle the calls
Call order in, verify details for the customer. This is the fix, it just requires more time and devotion of the artist and print house, I would say print house mostly...but this fix is nvr going to happen " And waste all this time for one print? We can sell 150 in 2 minutes, can't imagine vetting 150 phone calls". Actual conversation with one of the lovely print houses on here..keeping it civil, I won't mention the name. But that is the reality,..profits and the time it takes to achieve the same results. As long as the sell out, they can care less more.
Bot folks would just hire a service desk company to handle the calls
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acaipride
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 16:20:00 GMT 1
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New Pez, by acaipride on Feb 19, 2021 16:20:00 GMT 1, Call order in, verify details for the customer. This is the fix, it just requires more time and devotion of the artist and print house, I would say print house mostly...but this fix is nvr going to happen " And waste all this time for one print? We can sell 150 in 2 minutes, can't imagine vetting 150 phone calls". Actual conversation with one of the lovely print houses on here..keeping it civil, I won't mention the name. But that is the reality,..profits and the time it takes to achieve the same results. As long as the sell out, they can care less more.
Bot folks would just hire a service desk company to handle the calls
Nope it wouldn't work, trust me I've seen this system used in other collection market's..it is effective, very, but equally time consuming.
Did you know that there is a govt agency that only deals through phones, no internet, for security reasons. Read/Research
Call order in, verify details for the customer. This is the fix, it just requires more time and devotion of the artist and print house, I would say print house mostly...but this fix is nvr going to happen " And waste all this time for one print? We can sell 150 in 2 minutes, can't imagine vetting 150 phone calls". Actual conversation with one of the lovely print houses on here..keeping it civil, I won't mention the name. But that is the reality,..profits and the time it takes to achieve the same results. As long as the sell out, they can care less more.
Bot folks would just hire a service desk company to handle the calls Nope it wouldn't work, trust me I've seen this system used in other collection market's..it is effective, very, but equally time consuming. Did you know that there is a govt agency that only deals through phones, no internet, for security reasons. Read/Research
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Dive Jedi
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 16:56:12 GMT 1
New Pez, by Dive Jedi on Feb 19, 2021 16:56:12 GMT 1, Bot folks would just hire a service desk company to handle the calls Nope it wouldn't work, trust me I've seen this system used in other collection market's..it is effective, very, but equally time consuming. Did you know that there is a govt agency that only deals through phones, no internet, for security reasons. Read/Research the Texas energy service ?
Bot folks would just hire a service desk company to handle the calls Nope it wouldn't work, trust me I've seen this system used in other collection market's..it is effective, very, but equally time consuming. Did you know that there is a govt agency that only deals through phones, no internet, for security reasons. Read/Research the Texas energy service ?
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a2b
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 20:12:35 GMT 1
New Pez, by a2b on Feb 19, 2021 20:12:35 GMT 1, So does anybody know if these prints will be going on sale again after the original sales were cancelled?
Nothing on the Graffiti Prints website (apart from sold out) or Twitter, i've read that they have commented on Instagram but don't have an account so unable to read it so if somebody has the answer i'd be grateful if you could share.
So does anybody know if these prints will be going on sale again after the original sales were cancelled?
Nothing on the Graffiti Prints website (apart from sold out) or Twitter, i've read that they have commented on Instagram but don't have an account so unable to read it so if somebody has the answer i'd be grateful if you could share.
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Feb 19, 2021 20:22:36 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Jimini Cricket on Feb 19, 2021 20:22:36 GMT 1, So does anybody know if these prints will be going on sale again after the original sales were cancelled? Nothing on the Graffiti Prints website (apart from sold out) or Twitter, i've read that they have commented on Instagram but don't have an account so unable to read it so if somebody has the answer i'd be grateful if you could share.
The cancelled ยฃ28k of sales including shipping. Email them if interested. They will go through all of them over the weekend and allocate. Info correct at time of posting. And sign yourself up to Instagram.
So does anybody know if these prints will be going on sale again after the original sales were cancelled? Nothing on the Graffiti Prints website (apart from sold out) or Twitter, i've read that they have commented on Instagram but don't have an account so unable to read it so if somebody has the answer i'd be grateful if you could share. The cancelled ยฃ28k of sales including shipping. Email them if interested. They will go through all of them over the weekend and allocate. Info correct at time of posting. And sign yourself up to Instagram.
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a2b
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 20:40:48 GMT 1
New Pez, by a2b on Feb 19, 2021 20:40:48 GMT 1, The cancelled ยฃ28k of sales including shipping. Email them if interested. They will go through all of them over the weekend and allocate. Info correct at time of posting. And sign yourself up to Instagram. Thanks for the reply. I will indeed be emailing them.
The cancelled ยฃ28k of sales including shipping. Email them if interested. They will go through all of them over the weekend and allocate. Info correct at time of posting. And sign yourself up to Instagram. Thanks for the reply. I will indeed be emailing them.
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Morfx
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New Pez
Feb 19, 2021 21:13:21 GMT 1
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New Pez, by Morfx on Feb 19, 2021 21:13:21 GMT 1, the Texas energy service ? The past week has been a nightmare in Texas
I know, I'm still awaiting a delivery I sent out there to another forumite.
the Texas energy service ? The past week has been a nightmare in Texas I know, I'm still awaiting a delivery I sent out there to another forumite.
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acaipride
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New Pez
Feb 20, 2021 4:42:25 GMT 1
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New Pez, by acaipride on Feb 20, 2021 4:42:25 GMT 1, Only print I've got from GP is Nuno's crown..from an outsider's POV, GPs business model resembles the stock market more than a print house...pre ipo, insiders, reserve of prints to sell at market price some time later..huh? What is that??
I've also leveled the playing field..I stopped being interested.
Only print I've got from GP is Nuno's crown..from an outsider's POV, GPs business model resembles the stock market more than a print house...pre ipo, insiders, reserve of prints to sell at market price some time later..huh? What is that??
I've also leveled the playing field..I stopped being interested.
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