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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by RichEngland on Oct 9, 2020 22:05:36 GMT 1, I'd contact Tate Ward direct, maybe put your mind at rest.
I'd contact Tate Ward direct, maybe put your mind at rest. Just done that. I'm new to auction houses over just buying things from galleries so it's all a bit exotic to me haha. |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Terry Fuckwitt on Oct 9, 2020 22:19:11 GMT 1, Tate ward have been selling the soup can posters at every auction. I think you can as good as guarantee they will be genuine. You have a right to be concerned though as a lot of auction houses seem to be selling all sorts of fake stuff.
Tate ward have been selling the soup can posters at every auction. I think you can as good as guarantee they will be genuine. You have a right to be concerned though as a lot of auction houses seem to be selling all sorts of fake stuff.
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by daniel3886 on Oct 10, 2020 9:43:12 GMT 1, For the avoidance of doubt any item proven to not to be authentic will be refunded in full. Hope this gives bidders confidence to place bids. Buyers are encouraged to contact us for a discussion on the provenance of any lot they’re interested in.
For the avoidance of doubt any item proven to not to be authentic will be refunded in full. Hope this gives bidders confidence to place bids. Buyers are encouraged to contact us for a discussion on the provenance of any lot they’re interested in.
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by T-Bro on Oct 10, 2020 9:56:18 GMT 1, If it helps - the soup can in this sale is (was) mine. bought directly from POW.
If it helps - the soup can in this sale is (was) mine. bought directly from POW.
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by mmmike on Oct 10, 2020 13:22:39 GMT 1, For the avoidance of doubt any item proven to not to be authentic will be refunded in full. Hope this gives bidders confidence to place bids. Buyers are encouraged to contact us for a discussion on the provenance of any lot they’re interested in.
For the avoidance of doubt any item proven to not to be authentic will be refunded in full. Hope this gives bidders confidence to place bids. Buyers are encouraged to contact us for a discussion on the provenance of any lot they’re interested in. Good to have a refund policy around authenticity however proving something is not authentic can be near impossible. If I'm buying I would want to make sure the seller or auction house has done the due diligence to know without a doubt the item is authentic before offering it for sale. I've passed on things that I was 99% sure were authentic knowing if there was any doubt in my mind I wouldn't be happy with it. |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by mmmike on Oct 10, 2020 13:35:36 GMT 1, That's true for a lot of things. In those cases I tend to pass.
That's true for a lot of things. In those cases I tend to pass.
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by daniel3886 on Oct 10, 2020 14:28:19 GMT 1, Each buyer must assess the information to hand and if they’re not totally happy/comfortable then they should act accordingly.
We are fully prepared to back the above guarantee if needed.
A full in depth discussion is available on all lots so please get in touch if you’re interested in a particular lot.
Each buyer must assess the information to hand and if they’re not totally happy/comfortable then they should act accordingly.
We are fully prepared to back the above guarantee if needed.
A full in depth discussion is available on all lots so please get in touch if you’re interested in a particular lot.
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by LJCal on Oct 10, 2020 19:13:11 GMT 1, Good to have a refund policy around authenticity however proving something is not authentic can be near impossible. If I'm buying I would want to make sure the seller or auction house has done the due diligence to know without a doubt the item is authentic before offering it for sale. I've passed on things that I was 99% sure were authentic knowing if there was any doubt in my mind I wouldn't be happy with it. No offence, but I think you are asking for the impossible. In the same way that it is almost impossible to prove 100% that something is not authentic, it is also almost impossible to prove 100% that it is.
Good to have a refund policy around authenticity however proving something is not authentic can be near impossible. If I'm buying I would want to make sure the seller or auction house has done the due diligence to know without a doubt the item is authentic before offering it for sale. I've passed on things that I was 99% sure were authentic knowing if there was any doubt in my mind I wouldn't be happy with it. No offence, but I think you are asking for the impossible. In the same way that it is almost impossible to prove 100% that something is not authentic, it is also almost impossible to prove 100% that it is. With secondary sales it’s always varying shades of grey and a sliding scale of certainty. very good fakes can gather provenance and never be spotted and authentic works can be labelled as fakes incorrectly. |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by RichEngland on Oct 12, 2020 19:12:43 GMT 1, Im so bummed I missed the boat on POW back when they were open. I was still exclusively collecting autographs back then!
Im so bummed I missed the boat on POW back when they were open. I was still exclusively collecting autographs back then!
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Pal-Art on Oct 12, 2020 20:39:51 GMT 1, This is perhaps a dumb question, but if an item is auctioned by Tate Ward should I take it on faith that it is genuine? I am in the market for a Tesco Petrol Bomb and maybe soup cans and know to look for receipts, mailer tubes, etc., but don't know what my barrier for suspicion should be with an auction house that might not be shipping those.
This is perhaps a dumb question, but if an item is auctioned by Tate Ward should I take it on faith that it is genuine? I am in the market for a Tesco Petrol Bomb and maybe soup cans and know to look for receipts, mailer tubes, etc., but don't know what my barrier for suspicion should be with an auction house that might not be shipping those. A professional auction house and through my experience there is a professional and highly experienced staff |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by xoxoxo on Oct 13, 2020 16:25:56 GMT 1, Anyone watching what happens at Tate Wards live auction tomorrow?
Lot's of Banksy prints up for grabs.
Will be interesting to see if the crazy market prices hold up.
Not much bidding on Artsy prior to the live auction though?
Anyone watching what happens at Tate Wards live auction tomorrow?
Lot's of Banksy prints up for grabs.
Will be interesting to see if the crazy market prices hold up.
Not much bidding on Artsy prior to the live auction though?
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by trowel on Oct 13, 2020 16:53:59 GMT 1, Oh wow, there's a Micaleff God I Want To Be Bad. Brings back memories of the POW bubble 
Oh wow, there's a Micaleff God I Want To Be Bad. Brings back memories of the POW bubble |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by teabaggins on Oct 13, 2020 17:06:06 GMT 1, Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. 
Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 17:06:07 GMT 1, Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Jonny Wednesday on Oct 13, 2020 17:16:43 GMT 1, Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
yes it did hammer @55k. A little disappointed but 2 more coming this month. I'll be watching tomorrow. |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by lv90210 on Oct 13, 2020 17:20:20 GMT 1, Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
You do make me laugh dude !
Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
You do make me laugh dude ! |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Levi Stubbs Tears on Oct 13, 2020 17:20:40 GMT 1, Interesting how most LN that seem to sell are unsigned.
What was so special about the AP that Hang Up sold?
Interesting how most LN that seem to sell are unsigned.
What was so special about the AP that Hang Up sold?
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 17:24:07 GMT 1, Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
You do make me laugh dude !
Sorry. Forgot my place. Let me try again.....
FOR SURE. THIS WILL HAMMER FOR £100K+!
Fast market. Hot hot hot. Blah blah blah.
Better?
Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
You do make me laugh dude ! Sorry. Forgot my place. Let me try again..... FOR SURE. THIS WILL HAMMER FOR £100K+! Fast market. Hot hot hot. Blah blah blah. Better? |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by sbash on Oct 13, 2020 17:28:41 GMT 1, Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k.
Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Was the LN AP and signed, I would assume so at that price right? |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by therivler1 on Oct 13, 2020 17:29:56 GMT 1, signatures still matter. they just matter less now.
signatures still matter. they just matter less now.
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 17:32:50 GMT 1, Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
It sold for £68k, I remember Forum selling a unsigned LIITA for around £75k, then one month later Sothebys sold one for over £212k. The image is everything, signatures aren't that important anymore when it comes to the top images, buyers don't necessarily differentiate between signed and unsigned much like the Warhol market.
Didn't one hammer for around £55k a few days ago? £55k-£100k in a week seems like a jump? Stranger things have happened.
Edit* If you're including buyers premium then I guess it would only need to hammer around £75k which doesn't seem impossible
It sold for £68k, I remember Forum selling a unsigned LIITA for around £75k, then one month later Sothebys sold one for over £212k. The image is everything, signatures aren't that important anymore when it comes to the top images, buyers don't necessarily differentiate between signed and unsigned much like the Warhol market. The Bonhams one? I'm pretty sure it was £55k or £74K (Inc fees) depending on how you look at it. Happy to be corrected though. Yeah I agree that image is really important though and LN is right up there as one of his most iconic. Will be interesting to see which image will cement itself behind GWTRB & LIITA in the unsigned market. |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Rubberneck on Oct 13, 2020 17:34:50 GMT 1, This place makes me physically sick
This place makes me physically sick Sold yours already I guess 🤮 |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by FЯ on Oct 13, 2020 17:45:07 GMT 1, This place makes me physically sick
Do you ever have anything nice to say you moany bastard.
This place makes me physically sick Do you ever have anything nice to say you moany bastard. |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by xoxoxo on Oct 13, 2020 17:51:16 GMT 1, Anyone got on predictions of the GDP items, Thrower, GDP Rat, GDP Thrower, GDP Gift Rat Print, T Shirt and Banksquiat? I see bidding for the GDP rat has been quite strong on Artsy. 18 bids and well over the estimate.
Anyone got on predictions of the GDP items, Thrower, GDP Rat, GDP Thrower, GDP Gift Rat Print, T Shirt and Banksquiat? I see bidding for the GDP rat has been quite strong on Artsy. 18 bids and well over the estimate.
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Dice on Oct 13, 2020 17:51:28 GMT 1, Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Was the LN AP and signed, I would assume so at that price right?
m
Confirmed it sold for over £300k today.
Apparently the ap annotation was the reason it went for such a high amount even though the print is exactly the same as all the rest 🤷♂️
Not too often Laugh Now comes up for sale, could be the next unsigned to make over £100k. Especially given the rumor Hang Up sold a LN AP for over £300k. Was the LN AP and signed, I would assume so at that price right? m Confirmed it sold for over £300k today. Apparently the ap annotation was the reason it went for such a high amount even though the print is exactly the same as all the rest 🤷♂️ |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by irl1 on Oct 13, 2020 18:54:03 GMT 1, Anyone got on predictions of the GDP items, Thrower, GDP Rat, GDP Thrower, GDP Gift Rat Print, T Shirt and Banksquiat? I see bidding for the GDP rat has been quite strong on Artsy. 18 bids and well over the estimate.
How many are yours
Anyone got on predictions of the GDP items, Thrower, GDP Rat, GDP Thrower, GDP Gift Rat Print, T Shirt and Banksquiat? I see bidding for the GDP rat has been quite strong on Artsy. 18 bids and well over the estimate. How many are yours |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Jonny Wednesday on Oct 13, 2020 19:49:04 GMT 1, Was the LN AP and signed, I would assume so at that price right? m Confirmed it sold for over £300k today. Apparently the ap annotation was the reason it went for such a high amount even though the print is exactly the same as all the rest 🤷♂️
Maybe I just rub out the DN part and tipex the COA 
KEEERRRRRCHING!!
Was the LN AP and signed, I would assume so at that price right? m Confirmed it sold for over £300k today. Apparently the ap annotation was the reason it went for such a high amount even though the print is exactly the same as all the rest 🤷♂️ When mine went off to pest control it went numbered. Because they said it was a duplicate number, it came back renumbered as an AP / DN. Maybe I just rub out the DN part and tipex the COA KEEERRRRRCHING!! |
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TateWard • Art Auctions 🇬🇧, by Dice on Oct 13, 2020 19:50:57 GMT 1, Yeah I always thought AP/DN should be worth more but I’m not sure!
Yeah I always thought AP/DN should be worth more but I’m not sure!
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