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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by ak1 on Nov 27, 2020 14:31:29 GMT 1, A couple of nice pieces in amounst the Banksy tat but far from some of their previous auctions.
A couple of nice pieces in amounst the Banksy tat but far from some of their previous auctions.
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by irl1 on Nov 27, 2020 14:38:27 GMT 1, A couple of nice pieces in amounst the Banksy tat but far from some of their previous auctions. The way prices are going, very soon the word tat in relationship to Banksy will be a thing of the past
A couple of nice pieces in amounst the Banksy tat but far from some of their previous auctions. The way prices are going, very soon the word tat in relationship to Banksy will be a thing of the past
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by Random Ginger Bloke on Nov 27, 2020 14:43:41 GMT 1, Interested to see what the Flying copper goes for
Interested to see what the Flying copper goes for
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by mission on Nov 27, 2020 18:40:36 GMT 1, These auctions are tedious !! Same old crap every time .. just garbage month after month
These auctions are tedious !! Same old crap every time .. just garbage month after month
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by gd79 on Nov 27, 2020 18:42:45 GMT 1, So true. Half this stuff was passed earlier in the week.
So true. Half this stuff was passed earlier in the week.
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by mission on Nov 27, 2020 18:44:11 GMT 1, Surely the same Banksy prints that supposedly sold in the last auction ? Unsigned soup can love rat , coloured trollies?
Surely the same Banksy prints that supposedly sold in the last auction ? Unsigned soup can love rat , coloured trollies?
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by Blissy on Nov 27, 2020 19:58:10 GMT 1, They seem to work hard putting together a auction in a very competitive market place They seem nice honest people in the dealings I have had with them
They seem to work hard putting together a auction in a very competitive market place They seem nice honest people in the dealings I have had with them
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by JFCC on Nov 27, 2020 21:10:34 GMT 1, There are 6 that have listed at both 24/11 and now at 9/12, Flag (silver), Soup Can u/s, Trolleys (B&W) u/s, Trolleys (colour) signed, Love Rat u/s and Stop and Search which from 13 main lots is quite high, so poor planning or perhaps they didn't meet the reserve?
Further if they did sell surely the best way to avoid this duplication would have been to sell them to the under-bidder to avoid Auction boredom which repeating 6 out of 17 lots leads to?
Flag (silver) has shown 9 times this year and there is another to come at Forum
Soup Can Unsigned - 10 times this year and another to come at Forum
Trolleys (B&W) Unsigned - 6 this year
Trolleys (colour) signed - 7 times this year with others to come at Bonhams and Forum
Love Rat - 6 times this year with one more at Phillips
Stop and Search - 4 times this year.
So maybe they didn't sell? Certainly the one I would have thought would not have reached its reserve at the price it achieved was Stop and Search and possibly Trolleys (colour) signed and maybe Love Rat?
Personally I find TW pretty good albeit too much stuff in their auctions, poor online auction tech and I do not think Pest Control like them?
There are 6 that have listed at both 24/11 and now at 9/12, Flag (silver), Soup Can u/s, Trolleys (B&W) u/s, Trolleys (colour) signed, Love Rat u/s and Stop and Search which from 13 main lots is quite high, so poor planning or perhaps they didn't meet the reserve?
Further if they did sell surely the best way to avoid this duplication would have been to sell them to the under-bidder to avoid Auction boredom which repeating 6 out of 17 lots leads to?
Flag (silver) has shown 9 times this year and there is another to come at Forum
Soup Can Unsigned - 10 times this year and another to come at Forum
Trolleys (B&W) Unsigned - 6 this year
Trolleys (colour) signed - 7 times this year with others to come at Bonhams and Forum
Love Rat - 6 times this year with one more at Phillips
Stop and Search - 4 times this year.
So maybe they didn't sell? Certainly the one I would have thought would not have reached its reserve at the price it achieved was Stop and Search and possibly Trolleys (colour) signed and maybe Love Rat?
Personally I find TW pretty good albeit too much stuff in their auctions, poor online auction tech and I do not think Pest Control like them?
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by orchid on Nov 27, 2020 21:28:35 GMT 1, So: more questionable warhol, showcards/posters, sperling lamp with 2 year no-resale....!
So: more questionable warhol, showcards/posters, sperling lamp with 2 year no-resale....!
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by frosty79 on Nov 27, 2020 21:31:37 GMT 1, There are 6 that have listed at both 24/11 and now at 9/12, Flag (silver), Soup Can u/s, Trolleys (B&W) u/s, Trolleys (colour) signed, Love Rat u/s and Stop and Search which from 13 main lots is quite high, so poor planning or perhaps they didn't meet the reserve? Further if they did sell surely the best way to avoid this duplication would have been to sell them to the under-bidder to avoid Auction boredom which repeating 6 out of 17 lots leads to? Flag (silver) has shown 9 times this year and there is another to come at Forum Soup Can Unsigned - 10 times this year and another to come at Forum Trolleys (B&W) Unsigned - 6 this year Trolleys (colour) signed - 7 times this year with others to come at Bonhams and Forum Love Rat - 6 times this year with one more at Phillips Stop and Search - 4 times this year. So maybe they didn't sell? Certainly the one I would have thought would not have reached its reserve at the price it achieved was Stop and Search and possibly Trolleys (colour) signed and maybe Love Rat? Personally I find TW pretty good albeit too much stuff in their auctions, poor online auction tech and I do not think Pest Control like them?
If the edition numbers were published (like all top tier auction houses are open and transparent about) then we could tell if these were different prints or infact the same print that offered again and again which either didnβt sell or the house guaranteed and effectively is the seller. Why donβt Tate Ward publish the edition numbers? Christieβs, Sothebyβs etc all do
There are 6 that have listed at both 24/11 and now at 9/12, Flag (silver), Soup Can u/s, Trolleys (B&W) u/s, Trolleys (colour) signed, Love Rat u/s and Stop and Search which from 13 main lots is quite high, so poor planning or perhaps they didn't meet the reserve? Further if they did sell surely the best way to avoid this duplication would have been to sell them to the under-bidder to avoid Auction boredom which repeating 6 out of 17 lots leads to? Flag (silver) has shown 9 times this year and there is another to come at Forum Soup Can Unsigned - 10 times this year and another to come at Forum Trolleys (B&W) Unsigned - 6 this year Trolleys (colour) signed - 7 times this year with others to come at Bonhams and Forum Love Rat - 6 times this year with one more at Phillips Stop and Search - 4 times this year. So maybe they didn't sell? Certainly the one I would have thought would not have reached its reserve at the price it achieved was Stop and Search and possibly Trolleys (colour) signed and maybe Love Rat? Personally I find TW pretty good albeit too much stuff in their auctions, poor online auction tech and I do not think Pest Control like them? If the edition numbers were published (like all top tier auction houses are open and transparent about) then we could tell if these were different prints or infact the same print that offered again and again which either didnβt sell or the house guaranteed and effectively is the seller. Why donβt Tate Ward publish the edition numbers? Christieβs, Sothebyβs etc all do
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by Lazarus II on Nov 27, 2020 21:35:10 GMT 1, Because its not Sothebys or Christies.
Because its not Sothebys or Christies.
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by frosty79 on Nov 27, 2020 21:43:20 GMT 1, Because its not Sothebys or Christies.
Or Philips or Bonhams.....or Chiswick Auctions. Itβs an open market sale. Not sure if you missed the point or you are being facetious (or you are just a bit dim) but surely an auction house should provide the edition number of the print they are selling?
Because its not Sothebys or Christies. Or Philips or Bonhams.....or Chiswick Auctions. Itβs an open market sale. Not sure if you missed the point or you are being facetious (or you are just a bit dim) but surely an auction house should provide the edition number of the print they are selling?
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by Lazarus II on Nov 27, 2020 21:49:40 GMT 1, Because its not Sothebys or Christies. Or Philips or Bonhams.....or Chiswick Auctions. Itβs an open market sale. Not sure if you missed the point or you are being facetious (or you are just a bit dim) but surely an auction house should provide the edition number of the print they are selling? put me down as dim but mibbe not as dim as those who compare auction houses that sell beermats and giveaway posters with auction houses that have been doing this for over 300 years.
There is most definately a place in the market for the likes of Tate Ward but nobody should expect them to conduct business in the same manner as top end houses.
I wasnt being facetious.
Because its not Sothebys or Christies. Or Philips or Bonhams.....or Chiswick Auctions. Itβs an open market sale. Not sure if you missed the point or you are being facetious (or you are just a bit dim) but surely an auction house should provide the edition number of the print they are selling? put me down as dim but mibbe not as dim as those who compare auction houses that sell beermats and giveaway posters with auction houses that have been doing this for over 300 years. There is most definately a place in the market for the likes of Tate Ward but nobody should expect them to conduct business in the same manner as top end houses. I wasnt being facetious.
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by themenya6 on Nov 28, 2020 12:00:28 GMT 1, Tate Ward is becoming like the DFS of the Auction Houses.
Tate Ward is becoming like the DFS of the Auction Houses.
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by JFCC on Nov 28, 2020 12:51:25 GMT 1, In light of the comments on some of the other threads which are pretty damning and has a huge impact on their credibility, TW should update its practices to gain back their credibility. They should
1. Starting to add edition numbers so buyers actually know if pieces have been sold or just churned through again and again.
2. Stop selling non COA pieces and those without a COA.
3. Change their online auction process.
A large credibility gap is certainly appearing and their resounding silence on the subject is perhaps quite telling?
In light of the comments on some of the other threads which are pretty damning and has a huge impact on their credibility, TW should update its practices to gain back their credibility. They should
1. Starting to add edition numbers so buyers actually know if pieces have been sold or just churned through again and again.
2. Stop selling non COA pieces and those without a COA.
3. Change their online auction process.
A large credibility gap is certainly appearing and their resounding silence on the subject is perhaps quite telling?
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by reg on Nov 28, 2020 12:59:59 GMT 1, TW has a place. Not my first choice to sell but horses for courses.
Let's not forget they sold a Thrower this month for Β£225k.
TW has a place. Not my first choice to sell but horses for courses.
Let's not forget they sold a Thrower this month for Β£225k.
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by hellfo on Nov 28, 2020 13:31:54 GMT 1, put me down as dim but mibbe not as dim as those who compare auction houses that sell beermats and giveaway posters with auction houses that have been doing this for over 300 years. There is most definately a place in the market for the likes of Tate Ward but nobody should expect them to conduct business in the same manner as top end houses. I wasnt being facetious. But surely the point still stands. Why does one auction house provide the edition number and another does not? Β Saying Tate Ward is different to Sothebys doesn't really answer the question. Β If anyone does know the answer I would be interested to find out. Β Β
Maybe there are sellers who don't want to let know they are selling? The publishers knows which number goes to which person
put me down as dim but mibbe not as dim as those who compare auction houses that sell beermats and giveaway posters with auction houses that have been doing this for over 300 years. There is most definately a place in the market for the likes of Tate Ward but nobody should expect them to conduct business in the same manner as top end houses. I wasnt being facetious. But surely the point still stands. Why does one auction house provide the edition number and another does not? Β Saying Tate Ward is different to Sothebys doesn't really answer the question. Β If anyone does know the answer I would be interested to find out. Β Β Maybe there are sellers who don't want to let know they are selling? The publishers knows which number goes to which person
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by sondrer on Nov 28, 2020 20:34:22 GMT 1, I know the B/W unsigned trolleys is not the same as in last auction. I know since it is mine this time around π
I know the B/W unsigned trolleys is not the same as in last auction. I know since it is mine this time around π
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by brAA.acrepeNN on Nov 29, 2020 5:25:45 GMT 1, These auctions are tedious !! Same old crap every time .. just garbage month after month
I disagree
These auctions are tedious !! Same old crap every time .. just garbage month after month I disagree
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by irl1 on Nov 30, 2020 12:39:45 GMT 1, I know the B/W unsigned trolleys is not the same as in last auction. I know since it is mine this time around π My first time consigning with Tate Ward.
The Monkey Parliament is mine and for sure it's not a past lot
I know the B/W unsigned trolleys is not the same as in last auction. I know since it is mine this time around π My first time consigning with Tate Ward. The Monkey Parliament is mine and for sure it's not a past lot
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Yes, but that looks a stock image. This one was never in auction before.
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by eviljguano on Dec 6, 2020 14:50:20 GMT 1,
Reminds me of the people who use MS Paint to remove the registration number of their 2002 Golf on AutoTrader in the paranoid delusion someone is going to clone it⦠;-)
Reminds me of the people who use MS Paint to remove the registration number of their 2002 Golf on AutoTrader in the paranoid delusion someone is going to clone it⦠;-)
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by joey on Dec 8, 2020 18:56:19 GMT 1, I made a comment about about that Tesco petrol bomb looking dodgy - turns out it was a total fake and it was sold!!! Pretty shocking really you would expect an auction house to spot a fake they are holding in their hands - especially if I can spot it from a picture on their website. Β£4,000 for a piece of paper that is worthless oh dear dear. No one seemed to run with what I said on this thread. I'm no expert so I didn't want to push it. We could have prevented that, I was beginning to think I was wrong. Turns out dozens of these fakes are being sold. Here is a picture from JamieB on another thread Well it looks like I was right
I made a comment about about that Tesco petrol bomb looking dodgy - turns out it was a total fake and it was sold!!! Pretty shocking really you would expect an auction house to spot a fake they are holding in their hands - especially if I can spot it from a picture on their website. Β£4,000 for a piece of paper that is worthless oh dear dear. No one seemed to run with what I said on this thread. I'm no expert so I didn't want to push it. We could have prevented that, I was beginning to think I was wrong. Turns out dozens of these fakes are being sold. Here is a picture from JamieB on another thread Well it looks like I was right
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by joey on Dec 9, 2020 3:18:33 GMT 1, Well I looked at their last auction and spotted a fake petrol bomb straight away. And I am certainly not an art expert. If I can spot one from a website picture I would have hoped they could spot it as they hold it in their hands. It was fake and some poor sucker "took his chance" and paid Β£4k for a worthless copy.
Well I looked at their last auction and spotted a fake petrol bomb straight away. And I am certainly not an art expert. If I can spot one from a website picture I would have hoped they could spot it as they hold it in their hands. It was fake and some poor sucker "took his chance" and paid Β£4k for a worthless copy.
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by .dappy on Dec 9, 2020 3:40:39 GMT 1, This is perhaps a dumb question, but if an item is auctioned by Tate Ward should I take it on faith that it is genuine? I am in the market for a Tesco Petrol Bomb and maybe soup cans and know to look for receipts, mailer tubes, etc., but don't know what my barrier for suspicion should be with an auction house that might not be shipping those. A professional auction house and through my experience there is a professional and highly experienced staff ... weren't you selling a number of tesco petrol bomb posters on commission or through a deal with someone else?
This is perhaps a dumb question, but if an item is auctioned by Tate Ward should I take it on faith that it is genuine? I am in the market for a Tesco Petrol Bomb and maybe soup cans and know to look for receipts, mailer tubes, etc., but don't know what my barrier for suspicion should be with an auction house that might not be shipping those. A professional auction house and through my experience there is a professional and highly experienced staff ... weren't you selling a number of tesco petrol bomb posters on commission or through a deal with someone else?
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TateWard β’ Art Auctions π¬π§, by irl1 on Dec 9, 2020 13:06:59 GMT 1, Now that's a great counterfeit piece. Can't even tell the difference. Not this one, it's a 100%.
Now that's a great counterfeit piece. Can't even tell the difference. Not this one, it's a 100%.
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