1970hopper
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by 1970hopper on Mar 27, 2021 23:04:00 GMT 1, Banksy giveaway!!!! Win a Banksy Petrol Bomb Poster. Rules of Entry All you need to do is: Come to Elyโs Yard 15 Hanbury St London E1 on or before 10th April. Join our mailing list Follow tate_ward_urban and tate.ward.auctions Repost our giveaway post Winner will be announced on the 11th April We will be having another giveaway for people outside London and across the world soon. I look forward to welcoming members over the coming days.
nick wins 2,000 posters
Banksy giveaway!!!! Win a Banksy Petrol Bomb Poster. Rules of Entry All you need to do is: Come to Elyโs Yard 15 Hanbury St London E1 on or before 10th April. Join our mailing list Follow tate_ward_urban and tate.ward.auctions Repost our giveaway post Winner will be announced on the 11th April We will be having another giveaway for people outside London and across the world soon. I look forward to welcoming members over the coming days. nick wins 2,000 posters |
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LJCal
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 28, 2021 0:40:52 GMT 1, Good thing youโre not, theyโre claiming they did so unwittingly, you canโt be complicit if you donโt have knowledge of the wrong doing. Youโre claiming they did have knowledge and labelling them criminals without any proof, thatโs conjecture. A fair claim on the available information is perhaps they were negligent but in paying back the money to the parties impacted theyโve at least tried to put that right. If they unwittingly sold fakes ,that tells me that they donโt know their business ,and I would be in a vulnerable position if I were to trust their word buying secondary.
www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2010/oct/17/christies-forger-art-scam
Sothebyโs
www.grossmanllp.com/fake-old-master-painting-uncovered-raises-fears-of-more-forgeries
Bonhams
thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/08/bonhams-seiko-auction-cancelled-over-fakes/
You may struggle to buy at auction if you want an auction house with a perfect record
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LJCal
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 28, 2021 1:29:28 GMT 1, Good thing youโre not, theyโre claiming they did so unwittingly, you canโt be complicit if you donโt have knowledge of the wrong doing. Youโre claiming they did have knowledge and labelling them criminals without any proof, thatโs conjecture. A fair claim on the available information is perhaps they were negligent but in paying back the money to the parties impacted theyโve at least tried to put that right. claiming they did so unwittingly? FOR SEVERAL YEARS?!?!?! riiiiiiight.... come 2 nyc please, i have a bridge iโd like 2 sell u ๐
Good thing youโre not, theyโre claiming they did so unwittingly, you canโt be complicit if you donโt have knowledge of the wrong doing. Youโre claiming they did have knowledge and labelling them criminals without any proof, thatโs conjecture. A fair claim on the available information is perhaps they were negligent but in paying back the money to the parties impacted theyโve at least tried to put that right. claiming they did so unwittingly? FOR SEVERAL YEARS?!?!?! riiiiiiight.... come 2 nyc please, i have a bridge iโd like 2 sell u ๐ Again with the conjecture, whereโs your proof? Given there were 2000 of those posters itโs entirely possible a single person has dozens. I have loads of posters that are 100% authentic and have in multiples, some Iโve had dozens of the same poster/print. Itโs not unusual for people to buy up a lot of a single poster and then drip feed them through auctions over months and years. |
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LJCal
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 28, 2021 1:32:28 GMT 1, yes but these large houses didnโt defraud clients both at auction n privately FOR SEVERAL YEARS ON THE SAME EXACT PRINT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.... again, come across the pond, iโd like 2 show u several bridges i have 4 sale, iโll give u a great deal.... promise ๐
yes but these large houses didnโt defraud clients both at auction n privately FOR SEVERAL YEARS ON THE SAME EXACT PRINT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.... again, come across the pond, iโd like 2 show u several bridges i have 4 sale, iโll give u a great deal.... promise ๐ There werenโt 2000 identical Leger paintings in circulation though were there? |
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teabaggins
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by teabaggins on Mar 28, 2021 1:38:32 GMT 1, Iโm sorry but if you are buying Banksy posters that we all know:
- Have been faked and sold on for years
- Are unbelievably easy to reprint
- Have no real provenance unless you were the original purchaser or personally know the direct purchased.
- Were not and will never be issued COAโs
- Most people wouldnโt know a real one if it was in front of them
From an auction house, member on UAA, EBay, or wherever, YOU ARE TAKING THE RISK OF BUYING A FAKE! Sure itโs sucks to get burned but come on, itโs EPHEMERA! You roll the dice knowing all of the above and hope for the best.
At least when it came into question TW did right by everyone. Not like they were issuing COAโs. I believe Daniel to be an honest guy.
While it sucks and I feel bad for those that lost their gamble I would say that buying easily reprinted posters from someone you donโt know on the internet is not toward the top of the list on best ways to ensure you are buying authentic artwork.
Iโm sorry but if you are buying Banksy posters that we all know:
- Have been faked and sold on for years
- Are unbelievably easy to reprint
- Have no real provenance unless you were the original purchaser or personally know the direct purchased.
- Were not and will never be issued COAโs
- Most people wouldnโt know a real one if it was in front of them
From an auction house, member on UAA, EBay, or wherever, YOU ARE TAKING THE RISK OF BUYING A FAKE! Sure itโs sucks to get burned but come on, itโs EPHEMERA! You roll the dice knowing all of the above and hope for the best.
At least when it came into question TW did right by everyone. Not like they were issuing COAโs. I believe Daniel to be an honest guy.
While it sucks and I feel bad for those that lost their gamble I would say that buying easily reprinted posters from someone you donโt know on the internet is not toward the top of the list on best ways to ensure you are buying authentic artwork.
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LJCal
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 28, 2021 1:48:58 GMT 1, Again with the conjecture, whereโs your proof? Given there were 2000 of those posters itโs entirely possible a single person has dozens. I have loads of posters that are 100% authentic and have in multiples, some Iโve had dozens of the same poster/print. Itโs not unusual for people to buy up a lot of a single poster and then drip feed them through auctions over months and years. the fake PB posters sold were noticeable different, there was many pictures n examples of real vs fake right on this forum.... now i think ur just trolling me if u wonโt admit they were fake, AND the same ppl selling them weโre doing so 4 several years.... can u admit that at least?
Again with the conjecture, whereโs your proof? Given there were 2000 of those posters itโs entirely possible a single person has dozens. I have loads of posters that are 100% authentic and have in multiples, some Iโve had dozens of the same poster/print. Itโs not unusual for people to buy up a lot of a single poster and then drip feed them through auctions over months and years. the fake PB posters sold were noticeable different, there was many pictures n examples of real vs fake right on this forum.... now i think ur just trolling me if u wonโt admit they were fake, AND the same ppl selling them weโre doing so 4 several years.... can u admit that at least? Of course they were fake, and Iโm not trolling you, should they have known better? in hindsight yes (but there are probably more fakes of this poster than real ones). Iโm simply saying that Iโm given them the benefit of the doubt as there is at least in my view a plausible explanation if you allow for complacency and a lack of diligence. Basically applying Hanlonโs razor "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". |
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Matt
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Matt on Mar 28, 2021 8:22:15 GMT 1,
And in how many of these cases is a director of the auction house the source of fakes ?
And in how many of these cases were there tens or even hundreds of fakes from said director sold through dozens of channels over several years ?
And in how many of these cases were underbidders of these fakes contacted with a second chance to buy the item when they were actually being sold another copy of the fake ?
Add all of this up and it looks a lot more like malice than stupidity.
Or if it is stupidity, it is of the most extraordinary level
And in how many of these cases is a director of the auction house the source of fakes ? And in how many of these cases were there tens or even hundreds of fakes from said director sold through dozens of channels over several years ? And in how many of these cases were underbidders of these fakes contacted with a second chance to buy the item when they were actually being sold another copy of the fake ? Add all of this up and it looks a lot more like malice than stupidity. Or if it is stupidity, it is of the most extraordinary level |
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artmonster
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by artmonster on Mar 28, 2021 8:27:28 GMT 1, I actually feel sorry for whomever buys and finds out itโs not real
And for any seller selling a genuine article they wonโt get the full price for because TW has messed up their reputation
For a lot of people this is a life changing amount of money
No one โdeservesโ it
I actually feel sorry for whomever buys and finds out itโs not real
And for any seller selling a genuine article they wonโt get the full price for because TW has messed up their reputation
For a lot of people this is a life changing amount of money
No one โdeservesโ it
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Mar 28, 2021 9:01:21 GMT 1, Hi I would be interested in consigning some pieces. What are your sellers fees? Do members of UAA get a discount? Best Mark
Hi please get in touch with harry@tateward.com with a list of works. We are flexible with sellers commission in relation to size and total value of the consignment.
Hi I would be interested in consigning some pieces. What are your sellers fees? Do members of UAA get a discount? Best Mark Hi please get in touch with harry@tateward.com with a list of works. We are flexible with sellers commission in relation to size and total value of the consignment. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jimmyjam on Mar 28, 2021 13:12:09 GMT 1, Iโm sorry but if you are buying Banksy posters that we all know: - Have been faked and sold on for years - Are unbelievably easy to reprint - Have no real provenance unless you were the original purchaser or personally know the direct purchased. - Were not and will never be issued COAโs - Most people wouldnโt know a real one if it was in front of them From an auction house, member on UAA, EBay, or wherever, YOU ARE TAKING THE RISK OF BUYING A FAKE! Sure itโs sucks to get burned but come on, itโs EPHEMERA! You roll the dice knowing all of the above and hope for the best. At least when it came into question TW did right by everyone. Not like they were issuing COAโs. I believe Daniel to be an honest guy. While it sucks and I feel bad for those that lost their gamble I would say that buying easily reprinted posters from someone you donโt know on the internet is not toward the top of the list on best ways to ensure you are buying authentic artwork.
This why top auctions house will not accept Banksy items without a COA or they will label the item โAfter Banksyโ or โBanksy x ...โ I mentioned, in a different thread post, lower auction houses donโt and trick people. This is not good business to do.
Iโm sorry but if you are buying Banksy posters that we all know: - Have been faked and sold on for years - Are unbelievably easy to reprint - Have no real provenance unless you were the original purchaser or personally know the direct purchased. - Were not and will never be issued COAโs - Most people wouldnโt know a real one if it was in front of them From an auction house, member on UAA, EBay, or wherever, YOU ARE TAKING THE RISK OF BUYING A FAKE! Sure itโs sucks to get burned but come on, itโs EPHEMERA! You roll the dice knowing all of the above and hope for the best. At least when it came into question TW did right by everyone. Not like they were issuing COAโs. I believe Daniel to be an honest guy. While it sucks and I feel bad for those that lost their gamble I would say that buying easily reprinted posters from someone you donโt know on the internet is not toward the top of the list on best ways to ensure you are buying authentic artwork. This why top auctions house will not accept Banksy items without a COA or they will label the item โAfter Banksyโ or โBanksy x ...โ I mentioned, in a different thread post, lower auction houses donโt and trick people. This is not good business to do. |
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acaipride
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by acaipride on Mar 28, 2021 13:57:07 GMT 1, Iโm sorry but if you are buying Banksy posters that we all know: - Have been faked and sold on for years - Are unbelievably easy to reprint - Have no real provenance unless you were the original purchaser or personally know the direct purchased. - Were not and will never be issued COAโs - Most people wouldnโt know a real one if it was in front of them From an auction house, member on UAA, EBay, or wherever, YOU ARE TAKING THE RISK OF BUYING A FAKE! Sure itโs sucks to get burned but come on, itโs EPHEMERA! You roll the dice knowing all of the above and hope for the best. At least when it came into question TW did right by everyone. Not like they were issuing COAโs. I believe Daniel to be an honest guy. While it sucks and I feel bad for those that lost their gamble I would say that buying easily reprinted posters from someone you donโt know on the internet is not toward the top of the list on best ways to ensure you are buying authentic artwork. This why top auctions house will not accept Banksy items without a COA or they will label the item โAfter Banksyโ or โBanksy x ...โ I mentioned, in a different thread post, lower auction houses donโt and trick people. This is not good business to do.
But you know " this tenner has a holosticker AND a letter by Laz, I don't care what PCO says or thinks" is a vibe.
Iโm sorry but if you are buying Banksy posters that we all know: - Have been faked and sold on for years - Are unbelievably easy to reprint - Have no real provenance unless you were the original purchaser or personally know the direct purchased. - Were not and will never be issued COAโs - Most people wouldnโt know a real one if it was in front of them From an auction house, member on UAA, EBay, or wherever, YOU ARE TAKING THE RISK OF BUYING A FAKE! Sure itโs sucks to get burned but come on, itโs EPHEMERA! You roll the dice knowing all of the above and hope for the best. At least when it came into question TW did right by everyone. Not like they were issuing COAโs. I believe Daniel to be an honest guy. While it sucks and I feel bad for those that lost their gamble I would say that buying easily reprinted posters from someone you donโt know on the internet is not toward the top of the list on best ways to ensure you are buying authentic artwork. This why top auctions house will not accept Banksy items without a COA or they will label the item โAfter Banksyโ or โBanksy x ...โ I mentioned, in a different thread post, lower auction houses donโt and trick people. This is not good business to do. But you know " this tenner has a holosticker AND a letter by Laz, I don't care what PCO says or thinks" is a vibe. |
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lukeylupin
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by lukeylupin on May 27, 2021 17:13:19 GMT 1, Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery.
I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency!
Thanks
Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery.
I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency!
Thanks
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Patrick 01
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Patrick 01 on May 27, 2021 17:28:17 GMT 1, Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery. I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency! Thanks
Their recommended courier โSouthbank Logisticsโ are superb!
Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery. I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency! Thanks Their recommended courier โSouthbank Logisticsโ are superb! |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by lukeylupin on May 27, 2021 17:58:43 GMT 1, Thanks. They should be for the price. Those are the guys that quoted me ยฃ120.
Thanks. They should be for the price. Those are the guys that quoted me ยฃ120.
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iamzero
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by iamzero on May 27, 2021 18:02:36 GMT 1, No Uber Art... gap in the market.
No Uber Art... gap in the market.
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by sandinista on May 27, 2021 18:10:17 GMT 1, Thanks. They should be for the price. Those are the guys that quoted me ยฃ120.
Thanks. They should be for the price. Those are the guys that quoted me ยฃ120. Depends where you are. Good price if outer hebrides. |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Bruno Art 99 on May 27, 2021 18:38:47 GMT 1, Do you know companies that deliver art to tate ?
Do you know companies that deliver art to tate ?
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jamo
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jamo on May 27, 2021 18:45:34 GMT 1, Flight Logistics. Specialists in art and very reasonable. Reliable too.
Flight Logistics. Specialists in art and very reasonable. Reliable too.
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by John The Badgers on May 27, 2021 19:01:57 GMT 1, Can I add Fragilistics?
I have used them on a few occasions, I know also Mister Frame Man uses them, they are a top outfit.
Especially if framed, cant recommend them highly enough.
Price will depend on your location I guess, but they collect from London twice a week.
PM me if you want contact details.
Can I add Fragilistics?
I have used them on a few occasions, I know also Mister Frame Man uses them, they are a top outfit.
Especially if framed, cant recommend them highly enough.
Price will depend on your location I guess, but they collect from London twice a week.
PM me if you want contact details.
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lukeylupin
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by lukeylupin on May 27, 2021 19:30:02 GMT 1, Thanks, I've sent them a message. If they are good enough for Thierry Noir...
Thanks, I've sent them a message. If they are good enough for Thierry Noir...
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artlife11
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by artlife11 on May 27, 2021 21:00:10 GMT 1, Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery. I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency! Thanks Their recommended courier โSouthbank Logisticsโ are superb!
Second that and flight logistics excellent too
Tate Ward deal with Southbank logistics so should be able to help
Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery. I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency! Thanks Their recommended courier โSouthbank Logisticsโ are superb! Second that and flight logistics excellent too Tate Ward deal with Southbank logistics so should be able to help |
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lukeylupin
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by lukeylupin on May 28, 2021 22:13:04 GMT 1, Thanks for the recommendations guys. I've just requested some quotes.
Thanks for the recommendations guys. I've just requested some quotes.
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PS
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by PS on May 28, 2021 22:50:20 GMT 1, Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery. I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency! Thanks
Just remember cheapest doesn't necessarily make it the best option. I don't know how much the lot you've won cost but personally I'd rather pay the extra for piece of mind.
Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery. I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency! Thanks Just remember cheapest doesn't necessarily make it the best option. I don't know how much the lot you've won cost but personally I'd rather pay the extra for piece of mind. |
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lukeylupin
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by lukeylupin on May 29, 2021 0:02:51 GMT 1, Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery. I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency! Thanks Just remember cheapest doesn't necessarily make it the best option. I don't know how much the lot you've won cost but personally I'd rather pay the extra for piece of mind.
Yeah for sure. Not looking for cheapest. Just want to make sure I don't get caught out paying more for less.
Does anyone know a decent courier service to pick up an item from the Tate Ward? UK delivery. I've got two quotes so far. One for ยฃ120 and another for ยฃ60. So clearly there is no consistency! Thanks Just remember cheapest doesn't necessarily make it the best option. I don't know how much the lot you've won cost but personally I'd rather pay the extra for piece of mind. Yeah for sure. Not looking for cheapest. Just want to make sure I don't get caught out paying more for less. |
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LJCal
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on May 29, 2021 10:17:54 GMT 1, I use Pack and Send for international and Flight Logisitcs for the UK. FL are pretty reasonable but above all reliable.
I use Pack and Send for international and Flight Logisitcs for the UK. FL are pretty reasonable but above all reliable.
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by rgbtn on Aug 17, 2021 17:56:15 GMT 1, New Tate Ward auction starts tomorrow on Artsy, By Collectors For Collectors
www.tateward.com/auction/details/041-tate-ward--artsy---by-collectors-for-collectors/?au=59
Connor Brothers, KAWS, Keith Haring, Banksy, David Shrigley, Robert Del Naja, Stik and more.
Starts 10am.
![]() Connor Brothers highlight below
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Chris JL
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Chris JL on Aug 17, 2021 20:56:43 GMT 1,
Putting the Con Bros in that list is disrespectful to the artists you mention
Putting the Con Bros in that list is disrespectful to the artists you mention |
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eD
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by eD on Aug 18, 2021 12:11:17 GMT 1, Putting the Con Bros in that list is disrespectful to the artists you mention
Just wondering why people don't seem to rate Connor Brothers?
Opinions welcomed
Putting the Con Bros in that list is disrespectful to the artists you mention Just wondering why people don't seem to rate Connor Brothers? Opinions welcomed |
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by zacksz 123123 on Aug 18, 2021 12:28:54 GMT 1, Putting the Con Bros in that list is disrespectful to the artists you mention Just wondering why people don't seem to rate Connor Brothers? Opinions welcomed
I think Met has done a good job for the Connor brothers exploring how they steal old famous quotes and imagery and just re work everything.
Putting the Con Bros in that list is disrespectful to the artists you mention Just wondering why people don't seem to rate Connor Brothers? Opinions welcomed I think Met has done a good job for the Connor brothers exploring how they steal old famous quotes and imagery and just re work everything. |
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