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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Jimini Cricket on May 28, 2021 14:53:01 GMT 1, Hi Guys Dont trust this guy!!!!! Only pre-orders of sets have been confirmed/guaranteed, this person has not been "allocated a pre-sale". So this is totally BS. Nobody got a pre order allocated and don't know which image yet. As people might know we are doing vetting calls (more than 300) of people we don't know yet, to see if we can allocate a certain % (probably around the 5) for these people, the other 95% will go to our loyal collectors, collectors from the gallery or the artist. These 5% are going to make available for people who we selected after the vetting the calls, and they will get a link and it is first come first served. So it don't mean that after you got through the vetting call you 100% get a print, yes you have a better change but that's it. So this person maybe have done a vetting call but no way he/she got a print ready to sell. Again we hate to be so elitist with doing pre orders, vetting calls etc. We would like to sell to everyone but this shows again that there is not other option with releases like this............ Don't buy from this guy, just email ivy@avantarte.com ava@avantarte.com or amelia@avantarte.com to get in touch, as said we like to also sell to new people and start new relationships with people that wanna collect our editions. This way of selling art is not our preferences but we should take care of getting the work of artist into the houses of people who really love it and don't just see it as a way to make a quick buck All the best, Christian This has to be the funniest thing I’ve ever read. Looks like Christian is trying to damage control because he hasn’t been transparent with how pre-orders or the VIP list works. Let me paint you all a little window. Their VIP/pre-sale list is tiered, for this edition they offered immediate pre-sale to those who are part of their top 1% or those who are close with Javier and his associated gallery. Most of these pre-sale offers were for a full print set. A step down is where me and a ton of other collectors stand. We were contacted and asked to share which prints we would prefer having, once confirmed were told that we would receive a follow up email with the pre-order for which print they can offer us. Even so there aren’t any guarantee of getting the print we asked for, we might get offered our least favorite. For all other collectors, you had to “register” your interest and go through a ridiculous vetting process, where you basically have to prove that your worthy of buying from AA. I know a ton of people who had the “call” or weren’t lucky enough to get a response. Just speaks to how AA wants to run their elitist business. ALSO, I never once said I have already placed an order yet. I’ll be getting my pre-order in a week or so which a handful of other people. This is why hardly any prints will be released to the general public. (It’s also an invite only drop) I’ve been buying from AA for a while now, so I have no problem sharing who I really am if Christian messages me privately. I personally think the whole release was a mess and unfair to most collectors.
Should have kept the process mysterious for the peasants.
You don't have a problem sharing who you are but set up a burner account? Hmmm.
Jus sayin' what others are thinking. Jus sayin'.
Namaste
Hi Guys Dont trust this guy!!!!! Only pre-orders of sets have been confirmed/guaranteed, this person has not been "allocated a pre-sale". So this is totally BS. Nobody got a pre order allocated and don't know which image yet. As people might know we are doing vetting calls (more than 300) of people we don't know yet, to see if we can allocate a certain % (probably around the 5) for these people, the other 95% will go to our loyal collectors, collectors from the gallery or the artist. These 5% are going to make available for people who we selected after the vetting the calls, and they will get a link and it is first come first served. So it don't mean that after you got through the vetting call you 100% get a print, yes you have a better change but that's it. So this person maybe have done a vetting call but no way he/she got a print ready to sell. Again we hate to be so elitist with doing pre orders, vetting calls etc. We would like to sell to everyone but this shows again that there is not other option with releases like this............ Don't buy from this guy, just email ivy@avantarte.com ava@avantarte.com or amelia@avantarte.com to get in touch, as said we like to also sell to new people and start new relationships with people that wanna collect our editions. This way of selling art is not our preferences but we should take care of getting the work of artist into the houses of people who really love it and don't just see it as a way to make a quick buck All the best, Christian This has to be the funniest thing I’ve ever read. Looks like Christian is trying to damage control because he hasn’t been transparent with how pre-orders or the VIP list works. Let me paint you all a little window. Their VIP/pre-sale list is tiered, for this edition they offered immediate pre-sale to those who are part of their top 1% or those who are close with Javier and his associated gallery. Most of these pre-sale offers were for a full print set. A step down is where me and a ton of other collectors stand. We were contacted and asked to share which prints we would prefer having, once confirmed were told that we would receive a follow up email with the pre-order for which print they can offer us. Even so there aren’t any guarantee of getting the print we asked for, we might get offered our least favorite. For all other collectors, you had to “register” your interest and go through a ridiculous vetting process, where you basically have to prove that your worthy of buying from AA. I know a ton of people who had the “call” or weren’t lucky enough to get a response. Just speaks to how AA wants to run their elitist business. ALSO, I never once said I have already placed an order yet. I’ll be getting my pre-order in a week or so which a handful of other people. This is why hardly any prints will be released to the general public. (It’s also an invite only drop) I’ve been buying from AA for a while now, so I have no problem sharing who I really am if Christian messages me privately. I personally think the whole release was a mess and unfair to most collectors. Should have kept the process mysterious for the peasants. You don't have a problem sharing who you are but set up a burner account? Hmmm. Jus sayin' what others are thinking. Jus sayin'. Namaste |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by soupy on May 28, 2021 14:57:38 GMT 1, 
i couldn't imagine having to go through an interview process to buy a print..... seems like a shit ton of ass kissing, ego stroking, and bull shit to get a print you want.
i couldn't imagine having to go through an interview process to buy a print..... seems like a shit ton of ass kissing, ego stroking, and bull shit to get a print you want. |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Sunny Garcia on May 28, 2021 15:02:38 GMT 1, It’s because they’re essentially printing money here.
It’s because they’re essentially printing money here.
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Winks on May 28, 2021 15:13:30 GMT 1, I can’t for the life of me think why the 5% applaud when being told they are like dogs waiting for scraps to fall off the master’s table.
I can’t for the life of me think why the 5% applaud when being told they are like dogs waiting for scraps to fall off the master’s table.
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Jimini Cricket on May 28, 2021 15:20:44 GMT 1, I can’t for the life of me think why the 5% applaud when being told they are like dogs waiting for scraps to fall off the master’s table.
Because they get to buy a twenty for a tenner.
I can’t for the life of me think why the 5% applaud when being told they are like dogs waiting for scraps to fall off the master’s table. Because they get to buy a twenty for a tenner. |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 28, 2021 15:21:06 GMT 1, A load of art snobbery bollocks. Most of those 95% collectors are just wealthy flippers.
Let's have another Banksy lottery where everyone is equal.
A load of art snobbery bollocks. Most of those 95% collectors are just wealthy flippers.
Let's have another Banksy lottery where everyone is equal.
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by FЯ on May 28, 2021 15:22:23 GMT 1, The mountain of other artworks some of these collectors need to buy (and don't particularly want) as well to get a chance to buy the good stuff is ridiculous.
The mountain of other artworks some of these collectors need to buy (and don't particularly want) as well to get a chance to buy the good stuff is ridiculous.
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Jimini Cricket on May 28, 2021 15:24:15 GMT 1, A load of art snobbery bollocks. Most of those 95% collectors are just wealthy flippers. Let's have another Banksy lottery where everyone is equal.
Nooo. Banksy lottery equal??
For the noobs, he's being sarcastic.
A load of art snobbery bollocks. Most of those 95% collectors are just wealthy flippers. Let's have another Banksy lottery where everyone is equal. Nooo. Banksy lottery equal?? For the noobs, he's being sarcastic. |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 28, 2021 15:51:27 GMT 1, A load of art snobbery bollocks. Most of those 95% collectors are just wealthy flippers. Let's have another Banksy lottery where everyone is equal. Nooo. Banksy lottery equal?? For the noobs, he's being sarcastic.
No Sarcasm. Apart from a few VIP's paying nearly market prices, the rest go to 'normal' folk at seriously under market value.
A load of art snobbery bollocks. Most of those 95% collectors are just wealthy flippers. Let's have another Banksy lottery where everyone is equal. Nooo. Banksy lottery equal?? For the noobs, he's being sarcastic. No Sarcasm. Apart from a few VIP's paying nearly market prices, the rest go to 'normal' folk at seriously under market value. |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Chris JL on May 28, 2021 15:52:46 GMT 1, Looks like the cocaine wore off and the OP is deleting their posts
Or the deal is sealed already …
No judgement, but this really brings the “flip it while it’s hot” to a totally different level
Looks like the cocaine wore off and the OP is deleting their posts Or the deal is sealed already … No judgement, but this really brings the “flip it while it’s hot” to a totally different level |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Sunny Garcia on May 28, 2021 15:53:55 GMT 1, Looks like the cocaine wore off and the OP is deleting their posts
They’re all quoted. Why even bother? 😂
Looks like the cocaine wore off and the OP is deleting their posts They’re all quoted. Why even bother? 😂 |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by esfer on May 28, 2021 15:58:22 GMT 1, To me Nara's work has a lot of meaning. Japanese women have always been held back by society there. I partly grew up there and immediately understand Nara's work. I think a lot of women in general and especially in Asia understand his work. The cute asian little girl but has a dark side due to some mystical reason makes more sense to me. There is oppression that is represented in his characters. Again I also think a lot of women get this statement and understand his work. There are ton of really big female celebrities and collectors who love and own Nara paintings. This why his work is sold in Europe, Asia and America for millions. Nara is also extremely well trained and has a ton of talent. Javier's work to me lacks any meaning and is only based on cuteness. Maybe i'm wrong. I hear he's a really nice person and obviously talented but the fact he was Nara's assistant as well, and his work look exactly like his work - boy rather than girl. cat rather than dog... It always will look like a knock off even though well done. I think most major collectors first choice would be Nara. White little boys - typically are looked in society as having all opportunities in the world - so Javier's work doesn't make sense.
I couldn't agree more. Nara was original and interesting by being the original. Calleja isn't a bad artist or anything, and some of his characters are pleasing to look at. It's the stupid nonsense wording and half finished characters made to look like unfinished sketches that really bother me. Disingenuous is a perfect word. Guy is smart though, I have to give him that. Making millions.
To me Nara's work has a lot of meaning. Japanese women have always been held back by society there. I partly grew up there and immediately understand Nara's work. I think a lot of women in general and especially in Asia understand his work. The cute asian little girl but has a dark side due to some mystical reason makes more sense to me. There is oppression that is represented in his characters. Again I also think a lot of women get this statement and understand his work. There are ton of really big female celebrities and collectors who love and own Nara paintings. This why his work is sold in Europe, Asia and America for millions. Nara is also extremely well trained and has a ton of talent. Javier's work to me lacks any meaning and is only based on cuteness. Maybe i'm wrong. I hear he's a really nice person and obviously talented but the fact he was Nara's assistant as well, and his work look exactly like his work - boy rather than girl. cat rather than dog... It always will look like a knock off even though well done. I think most major collectors first choice would be Nara. White little boys - typically are looked in society as having all opportunities in the world - so Javier's work doesn't make sense. I couldn't agree more. Nara was original and interesting by being the original. Calleja isn't a bad artist or anything, and some of his characters are pleasing to look at. It's the stupid nonsense wording and half finished characters made to look like unfinished sketches that really bother me. Disingenuous is a perfect word. Guy is smart though, I have to give him that. Making millions. |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Inknart on May 28, 2021 16:09:22 GMT 1, The mountain of other artworks some of these collectors need to buy (and don't particularly want) as well to get a chance to buy the good stuff is ridiculous.
The mountain of other artworks some of these collectors need to buy (and don't particularly want) as well to get a chance to buy the good stuff is ridiculous. I'm sure there are super collectors who buy all Avante releases. I've been offered each Javier edition and have passed on all of them. I would question buyers who literally gobble up every single release, I would find it hard to believe there taste is that vast. |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Reader on May 28, 2021 16:16:30 GMT 1, Looks like the cocaine wore off and the OP is deleting their posts
Looks like the cocaine wore off and the OP is deleting their posts haha, brilliant, my thoughts exactly. :-) |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Ildefonso 77 on May 28, 2021 16:38:30 GMT 1, It’s because they’re essentially printing money here.
Correct! Testing the markets.
Will sell out though guaranteed.
It’s because they’re essentially printing money here. Correct! Testing the markets. Will sell out though guaranteed. |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Sunny Garcia on May 28, 2021 16:41:44 GMT 1, It’s because they’re essentially printing money here. Correct! Testing the markets. Will sell out though guaranteed.
It’s because they’re essentially printing money here. Correct! Testing the markets. Will sell out though guaranteed. Oh 100% it will sell out. Javier is on a rocket at the moment... 🚀🌒 |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Ildefonso 77 on May 28, 2021 16:46:43 GMT 1, Correct! Testing the markets. Will sell out though guaranteed. Oh 100% it will sell out. Javier is on a rocket at the moment... 🚀🌒
Completely agree. They are literally printing money.
1.8m € to be exact for 210pcs at 9k per drop!
Correct! Testing the markets. Will sell out though guaranteed. Oh 100% it will sell out. Javier is on a rocket at the moment... 🚀🌒 Completely agree. They are literally printing money. 1.8m € to be exact for 210pcs at 9k per drop! |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Sunny Garcia on May 28, 2021 16:49:41 GMT 1, I've made the point a few times now; prints are quickly becoming unaffordable for most early collectors. Everyone is getting greedy and wants their piece of the pie.
People shit on Shep Fairey, but at least he's kept his prints ridiculously cheap (comparatively), so that anyone can get one!
I've made the point a few times now; prints are quickly becoming unaffordable for most early collectors. Everyone is getting greedy and wants their piece of the pie.
People shit on Shep Fairey, but at least he's kept his prints ridiculously cheap (comparatively), so that anyone can get one!
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Gentle Mental on May 28, 2021 17:25:38 GMT 1, Javier isn’t in any major museum collection yet.
He is no where near what Nara has accomplished.
Yet his prints are priced sky high like a modern master.
I don’t think critics like him much.
Like Mr doodle - and cartoon kaws - and all the big eyes portrait artists... selling cute to the insta gen is like selling porn to pervs.
Especially in Asia.
Let me throw in Jonas wood and hebru and Hirst’s cherry blossoms - artists are going soft - with candy colours and safe as Disney ideas- to make big fat bucks fast.
This is McDonald’s McArt. Toys and happy meals for your eyes.
Javier isn’t in any major museum collection yet.
He is no where near what Nara has accomplished.
Yet his prints are priced sky high like a modern master.
I don’t think critics like him much.
Like Mr doodle - and cartoon kaws - and all the big eyes portrait artists... selling cute to the insta gen is like selling porn to pervs.
Especially in Asia.
Let me throw in Jonas wood and hebru and Hirst’s cherry blossoms - artists are going soft - with candy colours and safe as Disney ideas- to make big fat bucks fast.
This is McDonald’s McArt. Toys and happy meals for your eyes.
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Ravnur 2020 on May 28, 2021 17:29:03 GMT 1, Well said gentlemental
Well said gentlemental
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by theclash on May 28, 2021 17:40:38 GMT 1, This is a pretty interesting discussion on Print value long term. Is the market getting flooded with to many producers?
This is a pretty interesting discussion on Print value long term. Is the market getting flooded with to many producers?
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by bradk on May 28, 2021 17:49:14 GMT 1, Hi Guys Dont trust this guy!!!!! Only pre-orders of sets have been confirmed/guaranteed, this person has not been "allocated a pre-sale". So this is totally BS. Nobody got a pre order allocated and don't know which image yet. As people might know we are doing vetting calls (more than 300) of people we don't know yet, to see if we can allocate a certain % (probably around the 5) for these people, the other 95% will go to our loyal collectors, collectors from the gallery or the artist. These 5% are going to make available for people who we selected after the vetting the calls, and they will get a link and it is first come first served. So it don't mean that after you got through the vetting call you 100% get a print, yes you have a better change but that's it. So this person maybe have done a vetting call but no way he/she got a print ready to sell. Again we hate to be so elitist with doing pre orders, vetting calls etc. We would like to sell to everyone but this shows again that there is not other option with releases like this............ Don't buy from this guy, just email ivy@avantarte.com ava@avantarte.com or amelia@avantarte.com to get in touch, as said we like to also sell to new people and start new relationships with people that wanna collect our editions. This way of selling art is not our preferences but we should take care of getting the work of artist into the houses of people who really love it and don't just see it as a way to make a quick buck All the best, Christian
Perhaps a suggestion to conduct a face time call 12 or 18 months after purchase (so 210 calls) where you then need to see the print still in the collectors home / wall etc.....
failure to conduct face tine call or to produce the print on the end of the call means blacklisting for future...
Hi Guys Dont trust this guy!!!!! Only pre-orders of sets have been confirmed/guaranteed, this person has not been "allocated a pre-sale". So this is totally BS. Nobody got a pre order allocated and don't know which image yet. As people might know we are doing vetting calls (more than 300) of people we don't know yet, to see if we can allocate a certain % (probably around the 5) for these people, the other 95% will go to our loyal collectors, collectors from the gallery or the artist. These 5% are going to make available for people who we selected after the vetting the calls, and they will get a link and it is first come first served. So it don't mean that after you got through the vetting call you 100% get a print, yes you have a better change but that's it. So this person maybe have done a vetting call but no way he/she got a print ready to sell. Again we hate to be so elitist with doing pre orders, vetting calls etc. We would like to sell to everyone but this shows again that there is not other option with releases like this............ Don't buy from this guy, just email ivy@avantarte.com ava@avantarte.com or amelia@avantarte.com to get in touch, as said we like to also sell to new people and start new relationships with people that wanna collect our editions. This way of selling art is not our preferences but we should take care of getting the work of artist into the houses of people who really love it and don't just see it as a way to make a quick buck All the best, Christian Perhaps a suggestion to conduct a face time call 12 or 18 months after purchase (so 210 calls) where you then need to see the print still in the collectors home / wall etc..... failure to conduct face tine call or to produce the print on the end of the call means blacklisting for future... |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by bradk on May 28, 2021 17:50:18 GMT 1, conducted 300+ calls to vet initailly, so plasuable to conduct 210 as a follow up
conducted 300+ calls to vet initailly, so plasuable to conduct 210 as a follow up
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Happy Shopper on May 28, 2021 17:56:08 GMT 1, I really like the look of at least one of these prints, yet despite buying a few Avant Arte prints, and owning a Calleja original... I still don’t seem to even be even in the 300 getting a shot at 5 prints! 😂
I have to say though... Can you really say these are hand finished, if they’re not hand finished by the artist!? That seems like a stretch to me.
I really like the look of at least one of these prints, yet despite buying a few Avant Arte prints, and owning a Calleja original... I still don’t seem to even be even in the 300 getting a shot at 5 prints! 😂
I have to say though... Can you really say these are hand finished, if they’re not hand finished by the artist!? That seems like a stretch to me.
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by artzzzy on May 28, 2021 18:23:26 GMT 1, Javier isn’t in any major museum collection yet. He is no where near what Nara has accomplished. Yet his prints are priced sky high like a modern master. I don’t think critics like him much. Like Mr doodle - and cartoon kaws - and all the big eyes portrait artists... selling cute to the insta gen is like selling porn to pervs. Especially in Asia. Let me throw in Jonas wood and hebru and Hirst’s cherry blossoms - artists are going soft - with candy colours and safe as Disney ideas- to make big fat bucks fast. This is McDonald’s McArt. Toys and happy meals for your eyes.
Very well said.
But this is what is selling today, and there’s a substantial growing demand for it. So it makes sense that someone is producing it and feeding it to these people.
The average “VIP Collector” is someone with no artistic knowledge or background, the same type of person who collects designers sneakers and luxury fashion.
Like fashion brands, these companies create a mass appealing product, package it in a fancy way, and convince these clients that they are special VIP’s because they have the chance to buy it and others can’t.
More like VIP’s at Walmart is you ask me...
Javier isn’t in any major museum collection yet. He is no where near what Nara has accomplished. Yet his prints are priced sky high like a modern master. I don’t think critics like him much. Like Mr doodle - and cartoon kaws - and all the big eyes portrait artists... selling cute to the insta gen is like selling porn to pervs. Especially in Asia. Let me throw in Jonas wood and hebru and Hirst’s cherry blossoms - artists are going soft - with candy colours and safe as Disney ideas- to make big fat bucks fast. This is McDonald’s McArt. Toys and happy meals for your eyes. Very well said. But this is what is selling today, and there’s a substantial growing demand for it. So it makes sense that someone is producing it and feeding it to these people. The average “VIP Collector” is someone with no artistic knowledge or background, the same type of person who collects designers sneakers and luxury fashion. Like fashion brands, these companies create a mass appealing product, package it in a fancy way, and convince these clients that they are special VIP’s because they have the chance to buy it and others can’t. More like VIP’s at Walmart is you ask me... |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Ildefonso 77 on May 28, 2021 18:26:21 GMT 1, conducted 300+ calls to vet initailly, so plasuable to conduct 210 as a follow up
300 calls. 🧐
conducted 300+ calls to vet initailly, so plasuable to conduct 210 as a follow up 300 calls. 🧐 |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by soupy on May 29, 2021 14:18:10 GMT 1, Perhaps a suggestion to conduct a face time call 12 or 18 months after purchase (so 210 calls) where you then need to see the print still in the collectors home / wall etc..... failure to conduct face tine call or to produce the print on the end of the call means blacklisting for future...
are we buying a print or adopting a child?
Perhaps a suggestion to conduct a face time call 12 or 18 months after purchase (so 210 calls) where you then need to see the print still in the collectors home / wall etc..... failure to conduct face tine call or to produce the print on the end of the call means blacklisting for future... are we buying a print or adopting a child? |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Sunny Garcia on May 29, 2021 14:32:49 GMT 1, are we buying a print or adopting a child? You could be on to something. When you have a baby and you get those health visitor checks every so often to make sure that you remembered to feed the baby or change its nappy at least once a week. Avant Arte could maybe employ people to do something similar. If you get a knock at the door and the print isn't hanging up, then they take it away boot you out of the VIP club.
😂 🤣
In all seriousness, this is what some people actually think “should” happen.
are we buying a print or adopting a child? You could be on to something. When you have a baby and you get those health visitor checks every so often to make sure that you remembered to feed the baby or change its nappy at least once a week. Avant Arte could maybe employ people to do something similar. If you get a knock at the door and the print isn't hanging up, then they take it away boot you out of the VIP club. 😂 🤣 In all seriousness, this is what some people actually think “should” happen. |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by theclash on May 29, 2021 14:34:14 GMT 1, You could be on to something. When you have a baby and you get those health visitor checks every so often to make sure that you remembered to feed the baby or change its nappy at least once a week. Avant Arte could maybe employ people to do something similar. If you get a knock at the door and the print isn't hanging up, then they take it away boot you out of the VIP club. 😂 🤣 In all seriousness, this is what some people actually think “should” happen.
You weren’t told about the GPS trackers on each print?
You could be on to something. When you have a baby and you get those health visitor checks every so often to make sure that you remembered to feed the baby or change its nappy at least once a week. Avant Arte could maybe employ people to do something similar. If you get a knock at the door and the print isn't hanging up, then they take it away boot you out of the VIP club. 😂 🤣 In all seriousness, this is what some people actually think “should” happen. You weren’t told about the GPS trackers on each print? |
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AVANT ARTE JAVIER EDITION- Ed of 70, by Happy Shopper on May 29, 2021 20:55:31 GMT 1, 😂 🤣 In all seriousness, this is what some people actually think “should” happen. You weren’t told about the GPS trackers on each print?
Or the anal probe!?
😂 🤣 In all seriousness, this is what some people actually think “should” happen. You weren’t told about the GPS trackers on each print? Or the anal probe!? |
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