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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Carl Cashman Art on May 18, 2022 10:38:09 GMT 1, Definitely been some movement, prices were around $1800 a week ago.
Definitely been some movement, prices were around $1800 a week ago.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by klyde on May 18, 2022 10:39:55 GMT 1,
I HATE NFTs!
I HATE NFTs!
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by klyde on May 18, 2022 10:42:27 GMT 1, Making art fans into panicky money obsessed gambling arseholes.
Making art fans into panicky money obsessed gambling arseholes.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by jamesd on May 18, 2022 11:48:49 GMT 1, Are all these refunds for the physical? Has anyone tried for an NFT refund? (Asking for a friend  )
As per the t&cโs you canโt get a refund on the NFT, only the physical.
Are all these refunds for the physical? Has anyone tried for an NFT refund? (Asking for a friend ) As per the t&cโs you canโt get a refund on the NFT, only the physical. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by jamesd on May 18, 2022 11:55:25 GMT 1, Now that I own the NFT instead of the physical, I asked Heni how the VAT will be calculated.
They couldnโt tell me at the moment, seems theyโve not decided on which sum the vat will be calculated on, initial eth exchange rate, rate that I bought at, or rate at date of redemption for the physicalโฆ.
If I recall the original price at issue was 2.1ETHโฆ.?
So I figure at worst itโs going to be same vat amount I paid on my original physical orderโฆ..700 USDโฆ
However, Iโve still saved over ยฃ1400 (less the gas fees) and I like the artwork, so Iโm rather happy with myself as itโs my first foray into NFTโs.
Now that I own the NFT instead of the physical, I asked Heni how the VAT will be calculated.
They couldnโt tell me at the moment, seems theyโve not decided on which sum the vat will be calculated on, initial eth exchange rate, rate that I bought at, or rate at date of redemption for the physicalโฆ.
If I recall the original price at issue was 2.1ETHโฆ.?
So I figure at worst itโs going to be same vat amount I paid on my original physical orderโฆ..700 USDโฆ
However, Iโve still saved over ยฃ1400 (less the gas fees) and I like the artwork, so Iโm rather happy with myself as itโs my first foray into NFTโs.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Carl Cashman Art on May 18, 2022 12:25:03 GMT 1, Making art fans into panicky money obsessed gambling arseholes.
Making art fans into panicky money obsessed gambling arseholes. Art fans have been money obsessed for years. Nobody camps overnight in the streets at xmas for Artwork that isn't worth more than is paid for it. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by binky on May 18, 2022 12:28:59 GMT 1, Pathetic
Pathetic
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by klyde on May 18, 2022 12:50:10 GMT 1, Making art fans into panicky money obsessed gambling arseholes. Art fans have been money obsessed for years. Nobody camps overnight in the streets at xmas for Artwork that isn't worth more than is paid for it.
True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art.
The NFT thing has wrecked this.
Making art fans into panicky money obsessed gambling arseholes. Art fans have been money obsessed for years. Nobody camps overnight in the streets at xmas for Artwork that isn't worth more than is paid for it. True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art. The NFT thing has wrecked this. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Richy Rich on May 18, 2022 13:01:01 GMT 1, Art fans have been money obsessed for years. Nobody camps overnight in the streets at xmas for Artwork that isn't worth more than is paid for it. True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art. The NFT thing has wrecked this.
Art fans have been money obsessed for years. Nobody camps overnight in the streets at xmas for Artwork that isn't worth more than is paid for it. True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art. The NFT thing has wrecked this. Wrecked what? Surely if you're all about the art it hasn't changed a single thing? Your print will still look exactly the same. Promise. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by klyde on May 18, 2022 13:20:11 GMT 1, True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art.ย The NFT thing has wrecked this.ย Wrecked what? Surely if you're all about the art it hasn't changed a single thing? Your print will still look exactly the same. Promise.
Never said I was all about the art.
Just a shame it's worked out this way.
Value is always important when spending thousands of pounds. However the NFT thing takes this to an whole new level.
True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art.ย The NFT thing has wrecked this.ย Wrecked what? Surely if you're all about the art it hasn't changed a single thing? Your print will still look exactly the same. Promise. Never said I was all about the art. Just a shame it's worked out this way. Value is always important when spending thousands of pounds. However the NFT thing takes this to an whole new level. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by brule on May 18, 2022 13:34:47 GMT 1, Yet, on HENI they cost about half: does anyone know why that is? Are you sure? Then ones I was looking at on the OpenSea were far cheaper than the Palm/Heni ones.
Yet, on HENI they cost about half: does anyone know why that is? Are you sure? Then ones I was looking at on the OpenSea were far cheaper than the Palm/Heni ones. Are you looking on the Heni website? For some reason the OpenSea prices haven't been updating for the last few weeks. Look on OpenSea directly. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by J0NNY on May 18, 2022 14:16:45 GMT 1, Art fans have been money obsessed for years. Nobody camps overnight in the streets at xmas for Artwork that isn't worth more than is paid for it. True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art.ย The NFT thing has wrecked this.ย
The NFT part of the Empress IMO was more interesting then the art itself. I think we will see a lot more releases like this and so we should. Why send work all around the world to sit flat files, under beds and pay for inferior post and risk loss or damage when you could get it held and shipped to the end user when they want it. The transfer of ownership and COA are another thing that needs to start getting picked up on in this space.
It was peoples absolute greed and misunderstanding that wrecked this one, the use of the technology should be applauded.
Art fans have been money obsessed for years. Nobody camps overnight in the streets at xmas for Artwork that isn't worth more than is paid for it. True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art.ย The NFT thing has wrecked this.ย The NFT part of the Empress IMO was more interesting then the art itself. I think we will see a lot more releases like this and so we should. Why send work all around the world to sit flat files, under beds and pay for inferior post and risk loss or damage when you could get it held and shipped to the end user when they want it. The transfer of ownership and COA are another thing that needs to start getting picked up on in this space. It was peoples absolute greed and misunderstanding that wrecked this one, the use of the technology should be applauded. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by jp on May 18, 2022 19:14:39 GMT 1, True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art. The NFT thing has wrecked this. The NFT part of the Empress IMO was more interesting then the art itself. I think we will see a lot more releases like this and so we should. Why send work all around the world to sit flat files, under beds and pay for inferior post and risk loss or damage when you could get it held and shipped to the end user when they want it. The transfer of ownership and COA are another thing that needs to start getting picked up on in this space. It was peoples absolute greed and misunderstanding that wrecked this one, the use of the technology should be applauded.
This is yet another "solution" to a problem that didn't need an NFT to solve.
True. However this was a timed edition. The best way for fans to buy art. The NFT thing has wrecked this. The NFT part of the Empress IMO was more interesting then the art itself. I think we will see a lot more releases like this and so we should. Why send work all around the world to sit flat files, under beds and pay for inferior post and risk loss or damage when you could get it held and shipped to the end user when they want it. The transfer of ownership and COA are another thing that needs to start getting picked up on in this space. It was peoples absolute greed and misunderstanding that wrecked this one, the use of the technology should be applauded. The technology has nothing to do with what you said above. Heni, or any other company could print on demand or hold stock in a warehouse for a customer if they really wanted to. The tie-in to an NFT is pure marketing BS. This is yet another "solution" to a problem that didn't need an NFT to solve. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Greyhound on May 18, 2022 20:52:14 GMT 1, I think the NFT deed is a neat idea. I don't agree that print-on-demand solves the same problem, as the NFT deed release allowed Heni/Hirst to sell the entire edition in one go and pocket the cash. Then, they can take a cut of secondary too. It feels like it should be a big win for them as the primary. Where this has 'gone wrong' is arguably in a few places:
1. The crypto market is weird. In some corners, there is so much money sloshing around that some NFT buyers are happy to sell at a big loss and move on to the next moonshot opportunity. On the flip side, there's been a bit of a rout on various corners of the crypto market recently and it's easy to imagine some people simply needing the cash so they're dumping their NFT deeds as there's a non-crypto market for these, unlike jpegs of monkeys and other 'proper' NFTs. So, we've seen a significant drop in price, to way below the primary market price. This seems unprecedented for a signed Hirst.
2. Supply chain issues have meant that many physical buyers are sat with nothing at all. The volatility of ETH, and recent (lesser) moves in forex have meant folks have cancelled physical orders (distance selling regulations force this for physical, but not for digital items) and can make arbitrage plays via the NFT marketplace.
I'm absolutely not a crypto bro. I've never dabbled at all, and find the environmental impact absolutely horrifying. However I do think the NFT deed idea makes sense as it puts immediate money in the hands of the primary artist/publisher and also makes for a safer secondary market.
I'm still hanging on for my physical. I was tempted to do the arbitrage dance as there was probably ยฃ1000 or so in it at one point, but I'd probably have made a mess, and I suspect the time has passed now anyway.
I'd not be surprised to see other releases use the NFT deed. Perhaps next time physical will be taken completely out of the equation though, and/or editions will be limited by number, not time, so conversion to physical can be immediate.
I think the NFT deed is a neat idea. I don't agree that print-on-demand solves the same problem, as the NFT deed release allowed Heni/Hirst to sell the entire edition in one go and pocket the cash. Then, they can take a cut of secondary too. It feels like it should be a big win for them as the primary. Where this has 'gone wrong' is arguably in a few places:
1. The crypto market is weird. In some corners, there is so much money sloshing around that some NFT buyers are happy to sell at a big loss and move on to the next moonshot opportunity. On the flip side, there's been a bit of a rout on various corners of the crypto market recently and it's easy to imagine some people simply needing the cash so they're dumping their NFT deeds as there's a non-crypto market for these, unlike jpegs of monkeys and other 'proper' NFTs. So, we've seen a significant drop in price, to way below the primary market price. This seems unprecedented for a signed Hirst.
2. Supply chain issues have meant that many physical buyers are sat with nothing at all. The volatility of ETH, and recent (lesser) moves in forex have meant folks have cancelled physical orders (distance selling regulations force this for physical, but not for digital items) and can make arbitrage plays via the NFT marketplace.
I'm absolutely not a crypto bro. I've never dabbled at all, and find the environmental impact absolutely horrifying. However I do think the NFT deed idea makes sense as it puts immediate money in the hands of the primary artist/publisher and also makes for a safer secondary market.
I'm still hanging on for my physical. I was tempted to do the arbitrage dance as there was probably ยฃ1000 or so in it at one point, but I'd probably have made a mess, and I suspect the time has passed now anyway.
I'd not be surprised to see other releases use the NFT deed. Perhaps next time physical will be taken completely out of the equation though, and/or editions will be limited by number, not time, so conversion to physical can be immediate.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by jp on May 18, 2022 21:43:51 GMT 1, I'm absolutely not a crypto bro. I've never dabbled at all, and find the environmental impact absolutely horrifying. However I do think the NFT deed idea makes sense as it puts immediate money in the hands of the primary artist/publisher and also makes for a safer secondary market.
I don't understand why you think an NFT deed is required to put money in the hands of the artist. When I bought my Magnum photos during the week they were on sale in March, I knew I would not recieve them for months. They did not need an NFT deed to sell them that way. They just needed to specify that the prints would be sent months later. They still took my money.
Why is an NFT deed needed for this process? Companies have been taking payment and delivering at a later date for many many years.
I'm absolutely not a crypto bro. I've never dabbled at all, and find the environmental impact absolutely horrifying. However I do think the NFT deed idea makes sense as it puts immediate money in the hands of the primary artist/publisher and also makes for a safer secondary market. I don't understand why you think an NFT deed is required to put money in the hands of the artist. When I bought my Magnum photos during the week they were on sale in March, I knew I would not recieve them for months. They did not need an NFT deed to sell them that way. They just needed to specify that the prints would be sent months later. They still took my money. Why is an NFT deed needed for this process? Companies have been taking payment and delivering at a later date for many many years. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Horatio Nelson on May 18, 2022 22:45:42 GMT 1, I think the NFT deed is a neat idea. I don't agree that print-on-demand solves the same problem, as the NFT deed release allowed Heni/Hirst to sell the entire edition in one go and pocket the cash. Then, they can take a cut of secondary too. It feels like it should be a big win for them as the primary. Where this has 'gone wrong' is arguably in a few places: 1. The crypto market is weird. In some corners, there is so much money sloshing around that some NFT buyers are happy to sell at a big loss and move on to the next moonshot opportunity. On the flip side, there's been a bit of a rout on various corners of the crypto market recently and it's easy to imagine some people simply needing the cash so they're dumping their NFT deeds as there's a non-crypto market for these, unlike jpegs of monkeys and other 'proper' NFTs. So, we've seen a significant drop in price, to way below the primary market price. This seems unprecedented for a signed Hirst. 2. Supply chain issues have meant that many physical buyers are sat with nothing at all. The volatility of ETH, and recent (lesser) moves in forex have meant folks have cancelled physical orders (distance selling regulations force this for physical, but not for digital items) and can make arbitrage plays via the NFT marketplace. I'm absolutely not a crypto bro. I've never dabbled at all, and find the environmental impact absolutely horrifying. However I do think the NFT deed idea makes sense as it puts immediate money in the hands of the primary artist/publisher and also makes for a safer secondary market. I'm still hanging on for my physical. I was tempted to do the arbitrage dance as there was probably ยฃ1000 or so in it at one point, but I'd probably have made a mess, and I suspect the time has passed now anyway. I'd not be surprised to see other releases use the NFT deed. Perhaps next time physical will be taken completely out of the equation though, and/or editions will be limited by number, not time, so conversion to physical can be immediate.
Itโs beyond genius that Heni/Hirst can get a commission from secondary sales before the physical item has even been created.
I think the NFT deed is a neat idea. I don't agree that print-on-demand solves the same problem, as the NFT deed release allowed Heni/Hirst to sell the entire edition in one go and pocket the cash. Then, they can take a cut of secondary too. It feels like it should be a big win for them as the primary. Where this has 'gone wrong' is arguably in a few places: 1. The crypto market is weird. In some corners, there is so much money sloshing around that some NFT buyers are happy to sell at a big loss and move on to the next moonshot opportunity. On the flip side, there's been a bit of a rout on various corners of the crypto market recently and it's easy to imagine some people simply needing the cash so they're dumping their NFT deeds as there's a non-crypto market for these, unlike jpegs of monkeys and other 'proper' NFTs. So, we've seen a significant drop in price, to way below the primary market price. This seems unprecedented for a signed Hirst. 2. Supply chain issues have meant that many physical buyers are sat with nothing at all. The volatility of ETH, and recent (lesser) moves in forex have meant folks have cancelled physical orders (distance selling regulations force this for physical, but not for digital items) and can make arbitrage plays via the NFT marketplace. I'm absolutely not a crypto bro. I've never dabbled at all, and find the environmental impact absolutely horrifying. However I do think the NFT deed idea makes sense as it puts immediate money in the hands of the primary artist/publisher and also makes for a safer secondary market. I'm still hanging on for my physical. I was tempted to do the arbitrage dance as there was probably ยฃ1000 or so in it at one point, but I'd probably have made a mess, and I suspect the time has passed now anyway. I'd not be surprised to see other releases use the NFT deed. Perhaps next time physical will be taken completely out of the equation though, and/or editions will be limited by number, not time, so conversion to physical can be immediate. Itโs beyond genius that Heni/Hirst can get a commission from secondary sales before the physical item has even been created. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Greyhound on May 19, 2022 8:43:30 GMT 1, I'm absolutely not a crypto bro. I've never dabbled at all, and find the environmental impact absolutely horrifying. However I do think the NFT deed idea makes sense as it puts immediate money in the hands of the primary artist/publisher and also makes for a safer secondary market. I don't understand why you think an NFT deed is required to put money in the hands of the artist. When I bought my Magnum photos during the week they were on sale in March, I knew I would not recieve them for months. They did not need an NFT deed to sell them that way. They just needed to specify that the prints would be sent months later. They still took my money. Why is an NFT deed needed for this process? Companies have been taking payment and delivering at a later date for many many years.
To be clear I don't "think an NFT deed is required to put money in the hands of the artist". Putting money in the hands of artists has been solved in many ways for many years. However, the NFT deed is definitely improving the experience on secondary - as others have said the deed guarantees a pristine copy of the work on redemption - and I am arguing that this will surely help the primary sell the edition out very quickly.
Really I guess it boils down to "Heni realised that flippers are gonna flip, and they've leaned into it hard with this strategy, as it allows them to sell out instantly, make extra money on secondary and also incentivise flippers to bite as they don't need to worry about VAT or storage".
I'm absolutely not a crypto bro. I've never dabbled at all, and find the environmental impact absolutely horrifying. However I do think the NFT deed idea makes sense as it puts immediate money in the hands of the primary artist/publisher and also makes for a safer secondary market. I don't understand why you think an NFT deed is required to put money in the hands of the artist. When I bought my Magnum photos during the week they were on sale in March, I knew I would not recieve them for months. They did not need an NFT deed to sell them that way. They just needed to specify that the prints would be sent months later. They still took my money. Why is an NFT deed needed for this process? Companies have been taking payment and delivering at a later date for many many years. To be clear I don't "think an NFT deed is required to put money in the hands of the artist". Putting money in the hands of artists has been solved in many ways for many years. However, the NFT deed is definitely improving the experience on secondary - as others have said the deed guarantees a pristine copy of the work on redemption - and I am arguing that this will surely help the primary sell the edition out very quickly. Really I guess it boils down to "Heni realised that flippers are gonna flip, and they've leaned into it hard with this strategy, as it allows them to sell out instantly, make extra money on secondary and also incentivise flippers to bite as they don't need to worry about VAT or storage". |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by jamesd on May 19, 2022 12:27:35 GMT 1, Thankyou to all the greedy SOBโs that made my purchase of the NFT so cheap.
Thankyou to all the greedy SOBโs that made my purchase of the NFT so cheap.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by klyde on May 19, 2022 13:26:52 GMT 1,
My refund went through yesterday. Going to hold off for a while and buy when it seems low enough.
Ultimately I want one on my wall but its become about what is the least you can pay.
Not something I wanted to get involved with but I've been seduced!
My refund went through yesterday. Going to hold off for a while and buy when it seems low enough.
Ultimately I want one on my wall but its become about what is the least you can pay.
Not something I wanted to get involved with but I've been seduced!
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Richy Rich on May 19, 2022 14:16:16 GMT 1, My refund went through yesterday. Going to hold off for a while and buy when it seems low enough. Ultimately I want one on my wall but its become about what is the least you can pay. Not something I wanted to get involved with but I've been seduced!
My refund went through yesterday. Going to hold off for a while and buy when it seems low enough. Ultimately I want one on my wall but its become about what is the least you can pay. Not something I wanted to get involved with but I've been seduced! Well I think we can all applaud your integrity at least. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by klyde on May 19, 2022 14:32:46 GMT 1, My refund went through yesterday. Going to hold off for a while and buy when it seems low enough. Ultimately I want one on my wall but its become about what is the least you can pay. Not something I wanted to get involved with but I've been seduced! Well I think we can all applaud your integrity at least.
My refund went through yesterday. Going to hold off for a while and buy when it seems low enough. Ultimately I want one on my wall but its become about what is the least you can pay. Not something I wanted to get involved with but I've been seduced! Well I think we can all applaud your integrity at least. Whatever makes your life comfortable. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by maven on May 19, 2022 20:00:07 GMT 1, It feels like a long wait for a Hirst and after reading this thread I also decided to ask for a refund. I also made a small profit on my refund compared with the purchase price.
It feels like a long wait for a Hirst and after reading this thread I also decided to ask for a refund. I also made a small profit on my refund compared with the purchase price.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by JW on May 19, 2022 20:15:45 GMT 1, Wonder whether Heni is keeping a shit list of those who asked for a refund for future applications.
No skin off my nose so I don't care, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Wonder whether Heni is keeping a shit list of those who asked for a refund for future applications.
No skin off my nose so I don't care, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Poster Bob on May 19, 2022 22:56:55 GMT 1, A screenshot of the hammer a minute or so before it sold would be much appreciated. I also missed the ending.
A screenshot of the hammer a minute or so before it sold would be much appreciated. I also missed the ending. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by woobl on May 20, 2022 0:27:09 GMT 1, Wonder whether Heni is keeping a shit list of those who asked for a refund for future applications. No skin off my nose so I don't care, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Not sure, although I got a refund back in March (pre any delay announcements) but that led me to getting an Empress via NFT and a Currency (substantially more money than the former), so hopefully they are smart enough to see that one can lead to another.
Wonder whether Heni is keeping a shit list of those who asked for a refund for future applications. No skin off my nose so I don't care, but it wouldn't surprise me. Not sure, although I got a refund back in March (pre any delay announcements) but that led me to getting an Empress via NFT and a Currency (substantially more money than the former), so hopefully they are smart enough to see that one can lead to another. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by klyde on May 20, 2022 7:03:17 GMT 1, Wonder whether Heni is keeping a shit list of those who asked for a refund for future applications. No skin off my nose so I don't care, but it wouldn't surprise me.
A shit list?
For simply canceling a purchase per their own terms and conditions?
You're over thinking this.
Wonder whether Heni is keeping a shit list of those who asked for a refund for future applications. No skin off my nose so I don't care, but it wouldn't surprise me. A shit list? For simply canceling a purchase per their own terms and conditions? You're over thinking this. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by michaeldee on May 20, 2022 8:20:20 GMT 1, no screenshot here, but I did watch the auction wind down live. There were 2 last minute bids which extended the sale for a few minutes but then it quickly petered out. IMO, this particular artnet auction was a complete bust...very few bids through out the entire sale. Pretty sure the hammer for Suiko was $4900?
no screenshot here, but I did watch the auction wind down live. There were 2 last minute bids which extended the sale for a few minutes but then it quickly petered out. IMO, this particular artnet auction was a complete bust...very few bids through out the entire sale. Pretty sure the hammer for Suiko was $4900?
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 20, 2022 8:30:36 GMT 1, Wonder whether Heni is keeping a shit list of those who asked for a refund for future applications. No skin off my nose so I don't care, but it wouldn't surprise me. A shit list? For simply canceling a purchase per their own terms and conditions? You're over thinking this.
It wouldn't surprise me at all. It's not their own terms and conditions, it's a consumer right. Heni are trying to run a business and the refunds will cause them a huge headache, as well as losing out on a load of money.
Wonder whether Heni is keeping a shit list of those who asked for a refund for future applications. No skin off my nose so I don't care, but it wouldn't surprise me. A shit list? For simply canceling a purchase per their own terms and conditions? You're over thinking this. It wouldn't surprise me at all. It's not their own terms and conditions, it's a consumer right. Heni are trying to run a business and the refunds will cause them a huge headache, as well as losing out on a load of money. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by klyde on May 20, 2022 9:35:12 GMT 1,
It was a timed release. They want to sell as many as possible. And they sold a shitload.
Cant see why they would want to create a banned list of clients from that.
It was a timed release. They want to sell as many as possible. And they sold a shitload.
Cant see why they would want to create a banned list of clients from that.
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