But if one zealous guard or steward is asking you your ID ? 
They won’t let you pass if it’s another name …

Ahh the BBC  lol

No offense @mincrafter34 if you hate this forum, it’s members and Banksy so much why don’t you just stop logging on and go start a forum for your husbands shitty art? You seem really unhappy

After visiting this show Tuesday and now having just come out of the Mr.Brainwash museum in Los Angeles I can safely say my dislike for thierrys work has grown even more 🤣 

Clueless? That’s quite a statement mets posts on here are some of the best, I personally really enjoy them…you could learn a lot if you stopped obsessing over banksy work. Have a lovely evening. 

Wholly agree, MET has and is a very positive force on this forum for sharing. No need for needling 

Lol that will certainly liven up a regular supermarket trip. 

Early signs aren't too promising re. the BBC article, but let's wait for more news and see if anybody claims it.

Lack of relevant expertise never stopped my local council weighing-in and making decisions.

The real bs is how, were it by Banksy, the piece would've been called "great art", but that it is considered fully devoid of value and talent if by another.

Well-trained, western-media fueled consumers, right up to the local council.

Anyway someone stop Met. No one should take a bet like that with randoms on the internet seriously but Met being a person of their word I fear might.

Cheers for your patience.

If we could wait until 28 August to see if anything appears on Banksy's website or Instagram, that would be appreciated.



Like bookends, I too am unfazed by the BBC article.

For me, that isn't a credible source for Banksy authenticity matters. It seems to have been written by someone who may have had a tight deadline, allowed themselves to be misled, or was a bit muddled.

Given the presence of at least two fake rats we've recently seen in Glasgow, including a stolen one featured in The Scottish Sun, confusion could easily have arisen between those clear fakes and the Orange Order rat during a brief email or telephone exchange with some anonymous spokesperson:


www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/10847140/banksy-riddle-glasgow-artwork-stolen-queen-street/









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In the meantime, we have an opportunity to encourage ourselves to look at street art in greater detail, not just casually.

It is a way for us to keep training our eyes, to more‑quickly recognise tells — like stencil‑cutting and spraying techniques, level of and attention to detail, placement, speed and confidence of execution, and final touch‑ups to pieces (such as visually‑pleasing messiness and deliberate "mistakes" like drips and overspray).



Even something as minor as wall preparation and priming can become recognisable, for example in its meticulousness or the materials used.

When looking at the black wall on which the Orange Order rat appeared, in the right light we see the wall wasn't initially a blank surface. Some tagging was already there. And it was then covered up — by the black spraypaint of a graffiti writer, not by the buffing paint roller of a council worker:






We can also begin to recognise the other patterns of an artist — their general aesthetics, character and writing styles, colour palette, tone, sensibility, preferred themes, and favourite subject matters.



In the case of the Orange Order rat, to my eyes and mind, all the elements referred to above immediately point to Banksy. I see the presence of no red flag indicating otherwise.


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At the risk of stating the obvious, training one's eye is critical for any art collector. Time is needed to really look at, pay attention to, and think about artwork.

Those who lack a good eye are at a clear disadvantage. Among other things, they're more vulnerable to making poor buying decisions that involve bad art or counterfeit art.


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The type of person none of us should want to become or buy from is Robin Barton, a.k.a. Bankrobber.

Here is an individual with something like two decades in the business of dealing, especially in Banksys. Yet despite this extensive experience, he still isn't observant enough to immediately spot an obviously-fake Banksy street piece.

So convinced was he about its genuineness that he was willing to stake his reputation and pay £250,000 for it on national television.



Barton*: "[...] I stand by the fact that until someone proves it is not Banksy it remains Banksy."

Now, apart from delusional wishful thinkers and/or the stupid, who actually justifies a very expensive purchase on such a logically‑flawed basis? Baffling. Similar to me saying, "[...] I stand by the fact that until someone proves the painting I found in the skip is not a Vermeer, it remains a Vermeer."



My sympathies go to Barton's clients. They're the real dupes to feel sorry for — the ones actually paying money to an impostor who pretends to know what he's doing.

It makes me wince.

Fear not on my behalf.

I consider the two bets I've made to be fair for all the parties involved. And gambling is good for my blood circulation.



Moreover, I've no real doubt about who created the Orange Order rat.

My calculated risk is that, for whatever reason, Banksy might decide not to claim the work as his own by 28 August. I figure such a risk to be around 25%. It seems worthwhile taking because (at least according to this estimate) I'm then left with a 75% chance of being able to gorge on £10 worth of Pringles.



£10 is about four or five Pringles tubes which, once emptied, will also come in handy as components for the giant AI robot I've been building since the Covid lockdown.

My robot, who very-early-on named itself "Master", already has independent decision-making capabilities. But also a rather vindictive personality, making it difficult to control. This has on occasion been most unfortunate. I've had to hide the knives and forks in my home. And even the spoons. Who would have thought that a machine could use a spoon so effectively as a weapon?

Part of the problem is that whenever I do something wrong, and Master gets angry, that anger never seems to dissipate. Attempts at appeasement have yet to work.

Even when Master calmly assures me, "Don't worry, we're cool now", I find out to my detriment a few nights later while I'm asleep that, actually, we weren't so cool after all.

Nevertheless, using my hands, being constructive, and building something pretty impressive in its potential applications, has been a very rewarding exercise. I recommend it to anyone who doesn't have pets or small children.

Hi. Just wondering are there any exhibition tickets out there, for whatever reason, not going to be used this weekend. I'm over in Glasgow 24th/25th (another reason as totally missed this) and would love to go. Prob won't have the chance again. I need 2 tickets, any will do. Do you think this is a long shot. Have people got tickets from queuing to get the 9am allocation.

Any help greatly appreciated. PM me if you have any tickets. Can go late in evening also.
Thanks

I agree : met is actually the only member I "follow" here to make sure I never miss any of his posts

My wife and I flew there and back with easyJet (be aware they’re cancelling a LOT of flights at the moment - both my pre booked flights got canned but luckily I managed to get on other flights that didn’t affect the trip too much).

I took a rucksack and my wife took a small hold-all. Both were fine and we came back with four totes, four books and four sets of posters in tubes. That was seemingly fine with our ‘hand luggage only’ booking.

Other top tip, there’s a nice chap in the Mail Boxes Etc shop on George Street (about (about 5 min walk from the exhibition) who will cut down some shipping tubes to the right length for you to protect them on the plane. (45cm).