longshanks
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by longshanks on Aug 12, 2023 23:44:06 GMT 1,
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bastonly
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February 2023
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by bastonly on Aug 13, 2023 0:03:32 GMT 1, That pin was not that bad. I give you 1 โฌ including cost of shipping to France
That pin was not that bad. I give you 1 โฌ including cost of shipping to France
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met
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by met on Aug 13, 2023 0:05:53 GMT 1, I was not at the exhibition Wasnโt able to attend I attended on opening day and plan to attend on final day My brother was given these at the exhibition yesterday Iโve deleted my post in the discord you mention as Iโm sure youโre aware Iโm quite public in there and with it now linking to eBayโs & other sites I feel slightly wary of what Iโve posted if Iโd posted in the discord saying Iโve just posted on UAA it would have linked both my accounts which I never intended but thatโs clearly done now We assume theyโre legit and posted here expecting lots more people to post they had received them prior to listing on eBay Youโll also see I hit the eBay listings hard on day one of the banksy show and know how quickly these things drop In price once they become available fully so wanted to capatislise on that I didnโt want to post about it in discord saying brother had these as I donโt have them and theyโre not in hand Iโve made that clear theyโre his not mine hes currently in Edinburgh exploring fringe bits I assume He has two only! I donโt know what else to say but feel this has got out of hand
I can understand your position.
Still, if matters did get out of hand, this was entirely of your own making.
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You tried to create a fake reference price by deceit.
It was pretty much as follows:
"Hey guys! These badges/pins are going for ยฃ175 apiece on eBay!! But I'm not greedy. Not me. So I'm willing to do all of you a favour by selling you mine at a special mates' rate. For the discounted price of just ยฃ130 each! Because I'm such a nice bloke."
Now, the above alone doesn't make you an outright fraudster.
[NB: This comment is of course conditional. It assumes the pins actually turn out to be official, authorised Banksy merchandise โ as opposed to knockoffs whose creation was arranged by you or someone you know.]
But your lying and deception both approach the realm of fraud. They certainly demonstrate a lack of integrity.
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Moreover, you treated the entire forum as a collective of fools.
I'm sure you can accept why many members will have found this grating. Nobody likes to be taken for a dupe.
And that contempt towards us, your fellow collectors, can feel even more insulting when it's coming from somebody with your level of incompetence.
I trust you will forgive my frankness here.
Although the views I've expressed are honestly‑held, there is admittedly a risk they may be miscontrued as gratuitous.
Even Damien thinks something smells really bad about this story? (hopefully those eB ay listings will disappear soon so the smell goes Yeah Iโll be deleting this thread I think itโs gone from a sales post to a witch hunt
I'm sure we'll find out more about these pins over the coming few days, unless you and your brother just got very very lucky
I really hope so! Right now this has got out of hand 
Additional courtesy advice:
Seriously. Enough with your whining.
"Woe is me" is a terrible look for a wannabe scammer who's been caught out.
Just own your dishonesty. And apologise for it โ with at least a modicum of sincerity and remorse.
Then try to be a better human in the future. But without any of the "I'm feeling victimised", drama‑queen antics.
Because, under the circumstances, that kind of self‑pity is grotesque.
I was not at the exhibition Wasnโt able to attend I attended on opening day and plan to attend on final day My brother was given these at the exhibition yesterday Iโve deleted my post in the discord you mention as Iโm sure youโre aware Iโm quite public in there and with it now linking to eBayโs & other sites I feel slightly wary of what Iโve posted if Iโd posted in the discord saying Iโve just posted on UAA it would have linked both my accounts which I never intended but thatโs clearly done now We assume theyโre legit and posted here expecting lots more people to post they had received them prior to listing on eBay Youโll also see I hit the eBay listings hard on day one of the banksy show and know how quickly these things drop In price once they become available fully so wanted to capatislise on that I didnโt want to post about it in discord saying brother had these as I donโt have them and theyโre not in hand Iโve made that clear theyโre his not mine hes currently in Edinburgh exploring fringe bits I assume He has two only! I donโt know what else to say but feel this has got out of handI can understand your position. Still, if matters did get out of hand, this was entirely of your own making. __________ You tried to create a fake reference price by deceit.It was pretty much as follows: "Hey guys! These badges/pins are going for ยฃ175 apiece on eBay!! But I'm not greedy. Not me. So I'm willing to do all of you a favour by selling you mine at a special mates' rate. For the discounted price of just ยฃ130 each! Because I'm such a nice bloke."Now, the above alone doesn't make you an outright fraudster. [NB: This comment is of course conditional. It assumes the pins actually turn out to be official, authorised Banksy merchandise โ as opposed to knockoffs whose creation was arranged by you or someone you know.]But your lying and deception both approach the realm of fraud. They certainly demonstrate a lack of integrity. __________ Moreover, you treated the entire fo rum as a collective of fools. I'm sure you can accept why many members will have found this grating. Nobody likes to be taken for a dupe. And that contempt towards us, your fellow collectors, can feel even more insulting when it's coming from somebody with your level of incompetence. I trust you will forgive my frankness here. Although the views I've expressed are honestly‑held, there is admittedly a risk they may be miscontrued as gratuitous. Even Damien thinks something smells really bad about this story? (hopefully those eB ay listings will disappear soon so the smell goes Yeah Iโll be deleting this thread I think itโs gone from a sales post to a witch huntI'm sure we'll find out more about these pins over the coming few days, unless you and your brother just got very very lucky I really hope so! Right now this has got out of hand Seriously. Enough with your whining. "Woe is me" is a terrible look for a wannabe scammer who's been caught out. Just own your dishonesty. And apologise for it โ with at least a modicum of sincerity and remorse. Then try to be a better human in the future. But without any of the "I'm feeling victimised", drama‑queen antics. Because, under the circumstances, that kind of self‑pity is grotesque. |
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Jules Leotard on Aug 13, 2023 0:27:11 GMT 1, Kudos to UAA 'Mystery Incorporated' for efficiently solving this. I'm going to go out on a short limb and say that those inclined to shady dealing lurking on the forum probably do realize that the best way to pull a scam off is to get UAA on-board with an item's authenticity (even temporarily). The 'jokester(s)' probably justifies it with, "but now we are part of the story, it's all in the spirit of good fun..." while lopping 200 quid from the unsuspecting's account.
w3ll Done!
Kudos to UAA 'Mystery Incorporated' for efficiently solving this. I'm going to go out on a short limb and say that those inclined to shady dealing lurking on the forum probably do realize that the best way to pull a scam off is to get UAA on-board with an item's authenticity (even temporarily). The 'jokester(s)' probably justifies it with, "but now we are part of the story, it's all in the spirit of good fun..." while lopping 200 quid from the unsuspecting's account. w3ll Done! |
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Jules Leotard on Aug 13, 2023 0:31:45 GMT 1, Just to note, the hairy legs in the background of the original photos had me realizing they were not authentic from the get-go.
Also, they probably would have sold better as earrings.
Unsolicited .02
Just to note, the hairy legs in the background of the original photos had me realizing they were not authentic from the get-go.
Also, they probably would have sold better as earrings.
Unsolicited .02
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zacksz 123123
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October 2019
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by zacksz 123123 on Aug 13, 2023 2:47:32 GMT 1, The OP appears to be from near Cardiff, based on acquiring the Phlegm street piece from their local council in Cardiff. The two different eBay sellers โjadavie_47โ and โthisthatstuffsโ who have tried to sell the 2 x pin badges are both from Cwmbran Torfaen, which is near Cardiff. Both eBay sellers have tried to sell 2 x pin badges. The OP also had 2 x pin badges. No one else has tried to sell these badges. The OP listed an XXL size Banksy Colston Statue T-shirt for ยฃ600 on the forum, then around the same time, the eBay seller โjadavie_47โ (see previous above) sold exactly the same size XXL t-shirt for ยฃ650. The first name of the eBay seller โthisthatstuffsโ is Kyle (according to the eBay business account). The first name of the OP is Kyle (as they said on the Phlegm thread - urbanartassociation.com/post/2144767/thread). I wonder what met would establish from this coincidence? ๐ค The eBay account is mine but they were given at the show would appreciate if you could remove the tags to my account as has personal info  I can ask any questions thereโs two available that we were given to my brother and fam
letโs not allow this to disappear
The OP appears to be from near Cardiff, based on acquiring the Phlegm street piece from their local council in Cardiff. The two different eBay sellers โjadavie_47โ and โthisthatstuffsโ who have tried to sell the 2 x pin badges are both from Cwmbran Torfaen, which is near Cardiff. Both eBay sellers have tried to sell 2 x pin badges. The OP also had 2 x pin badges. No one else has tried to sell these badges. The OP listed an XXL size Banksy Colston Statue T-shirt for ยฃ600 on the forum, then around the same time, the eBay seller โjadavie_47โ (see previous above) sold exactly the same size XXL t-shirt for ยฃ650. The first name of the eBay seller โthisthatstuffsโ is Kyle (according to the eBay business account). The first name of the OP is Kyle (as they said on the Phlegm thread - urbanartassociation.com/post/2144767/thread). I wonder what met would establish from this coincidence? ๐ค The eBay account is mine but they were given at the show would appreciate if you could remove the tags to my account as has personal info I can ask any questions thereโs two available that we were given to my brother and fam letโs not allow this to disappear |
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mojo
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by mojo on Aug 13, 2023 14:04:16 GMT 1, Next question, how many did you have made and what do you plan to do with them now it has been established they are counterfeit knock offs produced without the artist or GOMA consent?
Next question, how many did you have made and what do you plan to do with them now it has been established they are counterfeit knock offs produced without the artist or GOMA consent?
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bookends
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by bookends on Aug 13, 2023 14:32:52 GMT 1, Last month members were actively encouraging and donating to counterfeit an Invader pin badge !
Got to love this place, Its like nowhere else I know !
Last month members were actively encouraging and donating to counterfeit an Invader pin badge !
Got to love this place, Its like nowhere else I know !
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by inefficiencyof on Aug 13, 2023 14:41:21 GMT 1, Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will.
Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will.
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by The Greased Piglet on Aug 13, 2023 15:04:32 GMT 1, Reminds me of the Dismaland Free Art and Walled Off monkey mask. Clear bollocks.
Reminds me of the Dismaland Free Art and Walled Off monkey mask. Clear bollocks.
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Terry Fuckwitt
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Terry Fuckwitt on Aug 13, 2023 15:13:55 GMT 1, Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will.
Thank you for taking the time to ask and I hope you didn't feel too silly in doing so๐
Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will. The answer we were all very much expecting sadly. Thank you for taking the time to ask and I hope you didn't feel too silly in doing so๐ |
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Acme Thunderer
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Acme Thunderer on Aug 13, 2023 15:18:38 GMT 1, Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will.
Hope his โmatesโ in the Heni Discord donโt fall for his feeble excuses and cover ups and actually realise that he tried to con people out of hundreds of pounds.
Have a safe journey back and we look forward to reading your review on the official C&R thread. ๐
Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will. Cheers dude - that now confirms that Postal Pirate is a lying scammer who tried to fraud people on both eBay and UAA. Hope his โmatesโ in the Heni Discord donโt fall for his feeble excuses and cover ups and actually realise that he tried to con people out of hundreds of pounds. Have a safe journey back and we look forward to reading your review on the official C&R thread. ๐ |
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Minecrafter
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October 2021
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Minecrafter on Aug 13, 2023 15:35:00 GMT 1, Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will. Cheers dude - that now confirms that Postal Pirate is a lying scammer who tried to fraud people on both eBay and UAA. Hope his โmatesโ in the Heni Discord donโt fall for his feeble excuses and cover ups and actually realise that he tried to con people out of hundreds of pounds. Have a safe journey back and we look forward to reading your review on the official C&R thread. ๐
So a "hundreds of pounds" fraud by postal pirate is something you recognise and call out but a millions of pound fraud commited by the Banksy collective and Sotheby's can be ignored ?
The hypocrisy is strong ๐
Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will. Cheers dude - that now confirms that Postal Pirate is a lying scammer who tried to fraud people on both eBay and UAA. Hope his โmatesโ in the Heni Discord donโt fall for his feeble excuses and cover ups and actually realise that he tried to con people out of hundreds of pounds. Have a safe journey back and we look forward to reading your review on the official C&R thread. ๐ So a "hundreds of pounds" fraud by postal pirate is something you recognise and call out but a millions of pound fraud commited by the Banksy collective and Sotheby's can be ignored ? The hypocrisy is strong ๐ |
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lukas01
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by lukas01 on Aug 13, 2023 15:41:39 GMT 1, I inquired about the pins, directly to Banksy (Pest Control) staff. Let's see what to answer.
While waiting, I noticed this change:
I inquired about the pins, directly to Banksy (Pest Control) staff. Let's see what to answer. While waiting, I noticed this change: |
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Street Arted 2020 on Aug 13, 2023 15:43:00 GMT 1, Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe itโs time for you to find another other forum.
Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe itโs time for you to find another other forum. |
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Minecrafter
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Minecrafter on Aug 13, 2023 15:46:42 GMT 1, Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe itโs time for you to find another other forum.
Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe itโs time for you to find another other forum. As long as massive ongoing frauds by the collective and certain auction houses get covered up (while other frauds get called out ) Ill be here you can look forward to it. |
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Lroy on Aug 13, 2023 16:20:50 GMT 1, Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will.
Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will. Just a question : no more stickers ? and tees ? |
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bookends
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by bookends on Aug 13, 2023 16:36:38 GMT 1, The hypocrisy is strong ๐
The hypocrisy is strong ๐ Both you and your husband need your troubled little minds looked at ! |
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by inefficiencyof on Aug 13, 2023 17:42:12 GMT 1, Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will. Just a question : no more stickers ? and tees ?
No stickers at all given away today - Iโm a big sticker nerd (Love collecting hand drawns) so asked many people working there, including; Stewards,,Security, ticket office and gift shop, all had ran out. However, I was very lucky for a member of the staff to open his wallet and give me 2 of his own.
Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) havenโt seen these badges. Make if that what you will. Just a question : no more stickers ? and tees ? Very limited sizes of some of the T-shirts, Boarder force only in a S. No stickers at all given away today - Iโm a big sticker nerd (Love collecting hand drawns) so asked many people working there, including; Stewards,,Security, ticket office and gift shop, all had ran out. However, I was very lucky for a member of the staff to open his wallet and give me 2 of his own. |
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Rubberneck
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Rubberneck on Aug 13, 2023 18:02:13 GMT 1, Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit..
Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit..
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by inefficiencyof on Aug 13, 2023 18:29:27 GMT 1, Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit..
Yup plenty around town!
Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit.. Yup plenty around town! |
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Random Ginger Bloke on Aug 13, 2023 18:32:00 GMT 1, I hope this doesn't reflect badly on any of the staff working at the exhibition with the badges allegedly being given out in the exhibition. Tbe staff have been super friendly and always genuinely happy to help, with giving out stickers (the day after I visited and they had none) to dishing out umbrellas to those waiting on the Scottish rain.
I hope this doesn't reflect badly on any of the staff working at the exhibition with the badges allegedly being given out in the exhibition. Tbe staff have been super friendly and always genuinely happy to help, with giving out stickers (the day after I visited and they had none) to dishing out umbrellas to those waiting on the Scottish rain.
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bookends
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by bookends on Aug 13, 2023 18:37:24 GMT 1, Funny because that is exactly what they are for ! not sitting in portfolios giving grown men stiffies
Funny because that is exactly what they are for ! not sitting in portfolios giving grown men stiffies
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by inefficiencyof on Aug 13, 2023 18:42:01 GMT 1, Funny because that is exactly what they are for ! not sitting in portfolios giving grown men stiffies
Funny because that is exactly what they are for ! not sitting in portfolios giving grown men stiffies For what itโs worth, Just as a side note. Iโm all for stickers being used and stuck up, but also really enjoyed collecting them in a portfolio with a raging hard-on! |
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Lroy on Aug 13, 2023 18:57:04 GMT 1, Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit.. Yup plenty around town!
i donโt think that it could forum members or one taking trains or planes โ๏ธ
Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit.. Yup plenty around town! Maybe the staff or mates of the staffโฆ or Glasgow rangers โฆ i donโt think that it could forum members or one taking trains or planes โ๏ธ |
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Terry Fuckwitt
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October 2019
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Terry Fuckwitt on Aug 13, 2023 19:54:46 GMT 1, I hope this doesn't reflect badly on any of the staff working at the exhibition with the badges allegedly being given out in the exhibition. Tbe staff have been super friendly and always genuinely happy to help, with giving out stickers (the day after I visited and they had none) to dishing out umbrellas to those waiting on the Scottish rain.
I hope this doesn't reflect badly on any of the staff working at the exhibition with the badges allegedly being given out in the exhibition. Tbe staff have been super friendly and always genuinely happy to help, with giving out stickers (the day after I visited and they had none) to dishing out umbrellas to those waiting on the Scottish rain. Well, apart from trying to scam fellow collectors here and his 'friends' over on discord by posting these fake pins, he would have certainly been a fuckin nuisance to the staff at GOMA. What with the fake Cut & Run insta account, then the fake AI Gwrb and now these fake pins, I expect they have had to employ more staff just to answer the same repetitive queries from the duped public. |
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compound
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by compound on Aug 13, 2023 21:06:05 GMT 1, Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe itโs time for you to find another other forum. As long as massive ongoing frauds by the collective and certain auction houses get covered up (while other frauds get called out ) Ill be here you can look forward to it.
Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe itโs time for you to find another other forum. As long as massive ongoing frauds by the collective and certain auction houses get covered up (while other frauds get called out ) Ill be here you can look forward to it. Isnโt there a TKMaxx forum you both can go on? Get some more clobber? |
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tidybut
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by tidybut on Aug 13, 2023 22:45:46 GMT 1, Hell of a thread this fairplay.
Hell of a thread this fairplay.
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Postal Pirate
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by Postal Pirate on Aug 14, 2023 13:19:35 GMT 1, Yeah I lied about them being on eBay & here but Iโm not a scammer!
Yeah I lied about them being on eBay & here but Iโm not a scammer! |
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churchwood
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CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge , by churchwood on Aug 14, 2023 13:25:53 GMT 1, Think this is where the popcorn gif will come in hand
Think this is where the popcorn gif will come in hand
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