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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by romanywg on Jun 7, 2007 21:30:29 GMT 1, Yeah I've noticed that. The market has been flooded with the same old prints for some time now though. Armchair Activism and Blair climbing Big Ben, not good. The older and rarer Blacksmoke prints still fetch a premium. But I think a few collectors, myself included, have become a bit dissillusioned with his output recently. Paying top price for what appear to be inkjet prints too, I may be wrong. There is so much choice with other artists nowadays. I will still collect his work but only his earlier more striking prints.
Yeah I've noticed that. The market has been flooded with the same old prints for some time now though. Armchair Activism and Blair climbing Big Ben, not good. The older and rarer Blacksmoke prints still fetch a premium. But I think a few collectors, myself included, have become a bit dissillusioned with his output recently. Paying top price for what appear to be inkjet prints too, I may be wrong. There is so much choice with other artists nowadays. I will still collect his work but only his earlier more striking prints.
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by craigf on Jun 7, 2007 21:33:46 GMT 1, Some of my first prints (I am quite a newbie) were Cauty, but once I got a definitive Liz, a bunny bomber and a couple of others I felt I had enough stamps. I would like the chimp stamp still, but until the theme changes a bit, which it looks like it will as per the Aquarium site he is now on strike  I'll be checking other stuff out instead.
Some of my first prints (I am quite a newbie) were Cauty, but once I got a definitive Liz, a bunny bomber and a couple of others I felt I had enough stamps. I would like the chimp stamp still, but until the theme changes a bit, which it looks like it will as per the Aquarium site he is now on strike I'll be checking other stuff out instead. |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by craigf on Jun 7, 2007 21:34:36 GMT 1, Forgot to say I would like one of the kits with the rubber stamp to put a gas mask on a normal stamp. Definitely fun for at least 10 minutes 
Forgot to say I would like one of the kits with the rubber stamp to put a gas mask on a normal stamp. Definitely fun for at least 10 minutes |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by romanywg on Jun 7, 2007 21:55:22 GMT 1, I have one of those, never used it though. Have seen one for sale recently but expect to pay around ยฃ50.
I have one of those, never used it though. Have seen one for sale recently but expect to pay around ยฃ50.
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by craigf on Jun 7, 2007 22:02:32 GMT 1, I think a couple have recently been sold, not sure how much they were originally or what I'd do with it after the 10 minutes of fun so will probably skip on getting one and save my pennies for an over priced piece of paper with some crap drawing on it....
I think a couple have recently been sold, not sure how much they were originally or what I'd do with it after the 10 minutes of fun so will probably skip on getting one and save my pennies for an over priced piece of paper with some crap drawing on it....
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by Winter on Jun 7, 2007 22:21:14 GMT 1, It's strange how some artists suddenly go out of favour. I think in many ways it's a bit like buying and selling shares. Many people buy to invest and the slightest downturn people panic sell and flood the market driving the price down. That's the impression I got when I clicked on the above link. Hey-ho.
It's strange how some artists suddenly go out of favour. I think in many ways it's a bit like buying and selling shares. Many people buy to invest and the slightest downturn people panic sell and flood the market driving the price down. That's the impression I got when I clicked on the above link. Hey-ho.
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by tadghostal on Jun 7, 2007 22:53:10 GMT 1, "Winning Hearts and Minds" is the one and only Cauty print I've ever bought. I like it, and probably will for quite a while (as it appears our leadership--i.e., Dems/Repubs--agrees with near unanimity that the US has the obligation in one form or another to "spread freedom and democracy" to the world by gunpoint, and to stop any and all "terrorist" nations--read that as "places with stuff we want, currently inhabited by brown people").
Sometimes I read about how anti-war art is "in' or "out" and it always leaves me a bit dumbfounded as to how the opposition to mass murder is related to fashion. Anyways, I've bought a handful of these anti-war posters and keep them in my house as an inoculation against the media blackout of bad things done by our governments, and against the constant hyping and glorification of death by force.
That's why I dig the 'Operation Magic Kingdom" series. Yeah, they're a bit obvious. Yeah, there is a lot of anti-war art out there. But what I've come to discover is unique about the OMK series is how these pieces are not only a commentary on the current situation and reflective of my own cynical perspective--but they have also helped to shape that perspective into something different, something more insightful and useful.
Can art make a useful contribution toward improving a person's life? I'd say "Absolutely."
What any of that has to do with Cauty's art all of a sudden being worth less than toilet paper is beyond me. But the thread made me realize how much I like that piece. 
"Winning Hearts and Minds" is the one and only Cauty print I've ever bought. I like it, and probably will for quite a while (as it appears our leadership--i.e., Dems/Repubs--agrees with near unanimity that the US has the obligation in one form or another to "spread freedom and democracy" to the world by gunpoint, and to stop any and all "terrorist" nations--read that as "places with stuff we want, currently inhabited by brown people"). Sometimes I read about how anti-war art is "in' or "out" and it always leaves me a bit dumbfounded as to how the opposition to mass murder is related to fashion. Anyways, I've bought a handful of these anti-war posters and keep them in my house as an inoculation against the media blackout of bad things done by our governments, and against the constant hyping and glorification of death by force. That's why I dig the 'Operation Magic Kingdom" series. Yeah, they're a bit obvious. Yeah, there is a lot of anti-war art out there. But what I've come to discover is unique about the OMK series is how these pieces are not only a commentary on the current situation and reflective of my own cynical perspective--but they have also helped to shape that perspective into something different, something more insightful and useful. Can art make a useful contribution toward improving a person's life? I'd say "Absolutely." What any of that has to do with Cauty's art all of a sudden being worth less than toilet paper is beyond me. But the thread made me realize how much I like that piece. |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by Cocteau 101 on Jun 7, 2007 23:06:57 GMT 1, Great comments from tadghostel.
As for the downturn, there has always been a large number of Cauty prints on ebay. A lot of the current ones are rejects being sold off cheap by the Aquarium.
Try getting hold of a Terror Queen cheap - you've no chance, I know because I've been trying to get one for ages.
Cauty has some classics that will always attract more than some others but with the cull and the strike we may see no more anyway.
Anyway there for hanging on the wall, screw the share portfolios!
Great comments from tadghostel.
As for the downturn, there has always been a large number of Cauty prints on ebay. A lot of the current ones are rejects being sold off cheap by the Aquarium.
Try getting hold of a Terror Queen cheap - you've no chance, I know because I've been trying to get one for ages.
Cauty has some classics that will always attract more than some others but with the cull and the strike we may see no more anyway.
Anyway there for hanging on the wall, screw the share portfolios!
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by romanywg on Jun 7, 2007 23:18:07 GMT 1, Great comments from tadghostel. Try getting hold of a Terror Queen cheap - you've no chance, I know because I've been trying to get one for ages. I'm sure Wings Apprentice on the Cauty boards has some. He is selling his whole collection of Cauty and it is vast! His tag is bcfc on this board.
Great comments from tadghostel. Try getting hold of a Terror Queen cheap - you've no chance, I know because I've been trying to get one for ages. I'm sure Wings Apprentice on the Cauty boards has some. He is selling his whole collection of Cauty and it is vast! His tag is bcfc on this board. |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by finsburyparkranger on Jun 7, 2007 23:26:34 GMT 1, While we are on the subject I'm looking out for a 'queen with gas mask' union jack cauty print. If anyones got one give me a shout. I've tried bcfc but he's sold the one he had. Cheers.
While we are on the subject I'm looking out for a 'queen with gas mask' union jack cauty print. If anyones got one give me a shout. I've tried bcfc but he's sold the one he had. Cheers.
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by Curley on Jun 7, 2007 23:47:15 GMT 1, Have to say Beckham Gets It and Beatles immolation are two of my favourites.
Have both on the wall.
Have to say Beckham Gets It and Beatles immolation are two of my favourites. Have both on the wall. |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by romanywg on Jun 8, 2007 0:11:10 GMT 1, While we are on the subject I'm looking out for a 'queen with gas mask' union jack cauty print. Cheers.
That's also known as the 'Terror Queen'.
While we are on the subject I'm looking out for a 'queen with gas mask' union jack cauty print. Cheers. That's also known as the 'Terror Queen'. |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by discoduster on Jun 8, 2007 8:11:30 GMT 1, Great comments from tadghostel. As for the downturn, there has always been a large number of Cauty prints on ebay. A lot of the current ones are rejects being sold off cheap by the Aquarium. Try getting hold of a Terror Queen cheap - you've no chance, I know because I've been trying to get one for ages. Cauty has some classics that will always attract more than some others but with the cull and the strike we may see no more anyway. Anyway there for hanging on the wall, screw the share portfolios!
I don't really see the point in getting a print if it's not going on the wall. 
Great comments from tadghostel. As for the downturn, there has always been a large number of Cauty prints on ebay. A lot of the current ones are rejects being sold off cheap by the Aquarium. Try getting hold of a Terror Queen cheap - you've no chance, I know because I've been trying to get one for ages. Cauty has some classics that will always attract more than some others but with the cull and the strike we may see no more anyway. Anyway there for hanging on the wall, screw the share portfolios! I don't really see the point in getting a print if it's not going on the wall. |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by discoduster on Jun 8, 2007 21:48:24 GMT 1, Yeah I've noticed that. The market has been flooded with the same old prints for some time now though. Armchair Activism and Blair climbing Big Ben, not good. The older and rarer Blacksmoke prints still fetch a premium. But I think a few collectors, myself included, have become a bit dissillusioned with his output recently. Paying top price for what appear to be inkjet prints too, I may be wrong. There is so much choice with other artists nowadays. I will still collect his work but only his earlier more striking prints.
I agree with the Inkjet print. My Beatles prints are piss poor quality. 
Yeah I've noticed that. The market has been flooded with the same old prints for some time now though. Armchair Activism and Blair climbing Big Ben, not good. The older and rarer Blacksmoke prints still fetch a premium. But I think a few collectors, myself included, have become a bit dissillusioned with his output recently. Paying top price for what appear to be inkjet prints too, I may be wrong. There is so much choice with other artists nowadays. I will still collect his work but only his earlier more striking prints. I agree with the Inkjet print. My Beatles prints are piss poor quality. |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by jonpud on Jun 12, 2007 17:58:49 GMT 1, There appears to be a feeling that Cauty's work (prints) are not in demand anymore, this appears to be true but don't sell unless you have to.
If the whispers are true then JC is no longer going to produce any more prints, only original works selling for k's! This will surely push the value up of his earlier prints? Anyone heard similar?
There appears to be a feeling that Cauty's work (prints) are not in demand anymore, this appears to be true but don't sell unless you have to.
If the whispers are true then JC is no longer going to produce any more prints, only original works selling for k's! This will surely push the value up of his earlier prints? Anyone heard similar?
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by pelle on Jun 12, 2007 18:02:16 GMT 1, I think the quality of Cauty's prints will insure that they stay at a fairly modest price.
To put it nicely.
I think the quality of Cauty's prints will insure that they stay at a fairly modest price.
To put it nicely.
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by jonpud on Jun 12, 2007 18:05:05 GMT 1, Yeah, love aloads of his stuff but so much of it it can become expensive!
Just not a good time to sell if anyone was considering!!
Yeah, love aloads of his stuff but so much of it it can become expensive!
Just not a good time to sell if anyone was considering!!
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by tadghostal on Jun 12, 2007 22:23:33 GMT 1, I think the quality of Cauty's prints will insure that they stay at a fairly modest price. To put it nicely.
That's a rather broad statement, wouldn't you say?
I have a "Hearts and Minds" (ed. of 35) which looks killer. Some people have complained about the print quality, suggesting they are inkjet prints, which isn't true at all (from what I understand). Apparently, the actual process is called "Pigment Printing" and the result is a print that is virtually impervious to fading of any kind as no inks or dyes are used.
Again, some people complained that the images appeared grainy (that is, regarding the Operation Magic Kingdom series), which surprised me to say the least. What was expected? A high-resolution glossy poster? The treatment makes a somewhat washed-out look commonly seen in satellite feeds of digital video cameras--the kind of image we get from "live" coverage of our joint middle east debacles.
All in all, the overall effect is stunning, and the print is very well executed. Granted, it has a very different feeling from the hand-made quality of a screenprint. But then again, they are totally different beasts. To me, its the same thing as complaining that a sculpture isn't a cheeseburger.
I knew what I was buying, and the print is outstanding IMHO. I'm sure many other Cauty owners feel the same.
I think the quality of Cauty's prints will insure that they stay at a fairly modest price. To put it nicely. That's a rather broad statement, wouldn't you say? I have a "Hearts and Minds" (ed. of 35) which looks killer. Some people have complained about the print quality, suggesting they are inkjet prints, which isn't true at all (from what I understand). Apparently, the actual process is called "Pigment Printing" and the result is a print that is virtually impervious to fading of any kind as no inks or dyes are used. Again, some people complained that the images appeared grainy (that is, regarding the Operation Magic Kingdom series), which surprised me to say the least. What was expected? A high-resolution glossy poster? The treatment makes a somewhat washed-out look commonly seen in satellite feeds of digital video cameras--the kind of image we get from "live" coverage of our joint middle east debacles. All in all, the overall effect is stunning, and the print is very well executed. Granted, it has a very different feeling from the hand-made quality of a screenprint. But then again, they are totally different beasts. To me, its the same thing as complaining that a sculpture isn't a cheeseburger. I knew what I was buying, and the print is outstanding IMHO. I'm sure many other Cauty owners feel the same. |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by pelle on Jun 12, 2007 22:28:31 GMT 1, I haven't seen the new prints, as I was so put off by the old ones I saw - they did look a lot like inkjets to me.
Not exactly what I expected from a so called art print. But then again they weren't expensive at the time and if you know what you're buying, and you like it, then fair enough.
I haven't seen the new prints, as I was so put off by the old ones I saw - they did look a lot like inkjets to me.
Not exactly what I expected from a so called art print. But then again they weren't expensive at the time and if you know what you're buying, and you like it, then fair enough.
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by Art-el on Jun 12, 2007 22:33:51 GMT 1, Jonpud
Any chance of elaborating on the whispers you have heard and who whispered?
Jonpud
Any chance of elaborating on the whispers you have heard and who whispered?
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by pelle on Jun 12, 2007 22:37:28 GMT 1, Some people have complained about the print quality, suggesting they are inkjet prints, which isn't true at all (from what I understand). Apparently, the actual process is called "Pigment Printing" and the result is a print that is virtually impervious to fading of any kind as no inks or dyes are used.
I found this about pigment printing:
"Digital inkjet printing has seen a surge in the use of the pigment ink as ink sets have been refined to be compatible with the latest in high-resolution inkjet technology."
- www.terajet.com/abttjp2.asp
Looks like it's an inkjet print using pigment ink. Which still just makes it an inkjet print in my book, although as you say it doesn't fade as easily...
Some people have complained about the print quality, suggesting they are inkjet prints, which isn't true at all (from what I understand). Apparently, the actual process is called "Pigment Printing" and the result is a print that is virtually impervious to fading of any kind as no inks or dyes are used. I found this about pigment printing: "Digital inkjet printing has seen a surge in the use of the pigment ink as ink sets have been refined to be compatible with the latest in high-resolution inkjet technology." - www.terajet.com/abttjp2.aspLooks like it's an inkjet print using pigment ink. Which still just makes it an inkjet print in my book, although as you say it doesn't fade as easily... |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by dog byte on Jun 12, 2007 23:01:07 GMT 1, as far as i know the good large size ink jet printers can be set to use either dye or uv (pigment) inks....
some ink jets using the pigment ink do not get the same quality as using the standard dye but the benefit is the pigment will not fade like dye ink...
as far as i know the good large size ink jet printers can be set to use either dye or uv (pigment) inks....
some ink jets using the pigment ink do not get the same quality as using the standard dye but the benefit is the pigment will not fade like dye ink...
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by menace2sobriety on Jun 12, 2007 23:52:00 GMT 1, I would kind of have to agree with you here pelle. Certainly dont want to slag off Mr Cauty as i think he has some great concepts and is basically a bit of a legend, but when i opened my dead dad print for the first time i wasnt all that impressed. Then again it was only ยฃ30
I would kind of have to agree with you here pelle. Certainly dont want to slag off Mr Cauty as i think he has some great concepts and is basically a bit of a legend, but when i opened my dead dad print for the first time i wasnt all that impressed. Then again it was only ยฃ30
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by tadghostal on Jun 13, 2007 0:20:05 GMT 1, pelle and dogbyte--
I just asked some art friend nerds about what you referenced and according to them pigment printing is considered on par with giclee. Which means, you're right--it is a glorified inkjet print.
To which I said, "I'll be damned."
Although I still love the image, it now has the tainted feel of a Hirst to it. Since when did computers produce anything considered "art?" (its a rhetorical question, btw).
pelle and dogbyte--
I just asked some art friend nerds about what you referenced and according to them pigment printing is considered on par with giclee. Which means, you're right--it is a glorified inkjet print.
To which I said, "I'll be damned."
Although I still love the image, it now has the tainted feel of a Hirst to it. Since when did computers produce anything considered "art?" (its a rhetorical question, btw).
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by pelle on Jun 13, 2007 7:42:18 GMT 1, Sorry to have tainted your Cauty piece
Sorry to have tainted your Cauty piece |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by Cocteau 101 on Apr 30, 2007 21:15:30 GMT 1, This is on the Cauty forum but if anyone has a signed 51a 51b or 51c please pm me. I'll pay a fair price but nothing silly.
Cheers
J
This is on the Cauty forum but if anyone has a signed 51a 51b or 51c please pm me. I'll pay a fair price but nothing silly.
Cheers
J
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by motor on Apr 30, 2007 22:03:04 GMT 1, This is on the Cauty forum but if anyone has a signed 51a 51b or 51c please pm me. I'll pay a fair price but nothing silly. Cheers J
I've PM'd you
This is on the Cauty forum but if anyone has a signed 51a 51b or 51c please pm me. I'll pay a fair price but nothing silly. Cheers J I've PM'd you |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by lesroy on Mar 11, 2007 19:12:29 GMT 1, How much do you want for the cauty stuff, I like them but I have no idea whether they are ยฃ100 or ยฃ1000 each?
PM me GB will ya
How much do you want for the cauty stuff, I like them but I have no idea whether they are ยฃ100 or ยฃ1000 each? PM me GB will ya |
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James Cauty ๐ฌ๐ง The KLF โข Artist & Musician , by paulah on Mar 11, 2007 19:54:16 GMT 1, aha - now I know who beat me to the J&J 
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I'll be checking other stuff out instead.
