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SOLD, by Johnny Sarcasm on Nov 6, 2023 13:09:14 GMT 1, Well, to be fair, you entered a contract with the intention of not keeping it. Even you must see that this is problematic in general, but specifically for dealings on this forum.
Well, to be fair, you entered a contract with the intention of not keeping it. Even you must see that this is problematic in general, but specifically for dealings on this forum. ๐ฅฑ |
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Wanchope
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Nov 6, 2023 13:33:56 GMT 1
SOLD, by Wanchope on Nov 6, 2023 13:33:56 GMT 1, I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else.
I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for. |
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Nov 6, 2023 13:36:44 GMT 1
SOLD, by Display_arts on Nov 6, 2023 13:36:44 GMT 1, I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for.
Itยดs a clause you accept before buying. So if you tell them: I want to do the f.. I want, you can simply pass on it and dont buy. I donยดt understand how hard it is for people to understand and rely on your own word that you give to somebody, that they allow you to buy from them.
I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for.
Itยดs a clause you accept before buying. So if you tell them: I want to do the f.. I want, you can simply pass on it and dont buy. I donยดt understand how hard it is for people to understand and rely on your own word that you give to somebody, that they allow you to buy from them.
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Wanchope
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Nov 6, 2023 13:45:11 GMT 1
SOLD, by Wanchope on Nov 6, 2023 13:45:11 GMT 1, Well I accepted it as I am not selling, but I see more and more of it and it doesn't sit well at all.
Well I accepted it as I am not selling, but I see more and more of it and it doesn't sit well at all.
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Londown 01
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Nov 6, 2023 14:05:57 GMT 1
SOLD, by Londown 01 on Nov 6, 2023 14:05:57 GMT 1, I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property.
I don't think that what you're writing contradicts what I said. I am not defending non-resale clauses! I don't know whether they are a good, neutral or bad idea.
The issue here is something different: the non-resale clause was part of the package/ deal. You pay a certain amount of money + you agree to a non-resale clause -> and you get a fantastic piece of art for it. That was the deal that every buyer agreed to. And I'm merely saying that if you agree to a contract, you should keep it.
You just cannot sign a contract and then break it by saying: "well I just don't think its fair or a good idea"
I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't think that what you're writing contradicts what I said. I am not defending non-resale clauses! I don't know whether they are a good, neutral or bad idea. The issue here is something different: the non-resale clause was part of the package/ deal. You pay a certain amount of money + you agree to a non-resale clause -> and you get a fantastic piece of art for it. That was the deal that every buyer agreed to. And I'm merely saying that if you agree to a contract, you should keep it. You just cannot sign a contract and then break it by saying: "well I just don't think its fair or a good idea" |
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Wanchope
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Nov 6, 2023 14:13:22 GMT 1
SOLD, by Wanchope on Nov 6, 2023 14:13:22 GMT 1, I get it and a deal is a deal. I just canโt stand why they do it in the first place, but Iโve said my bit and will leave it there.
I get it and a deal is a deal. I just canโt stand why they do it in the first place, but Iโve said my bit and will leave it there.
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gatortooth
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Nov 6, 2023 14:41:08 GMT 1
SOLD, by gatortooth on Nov 6, 2023 14:41:08 GMT 1, I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for.
Actually, there are other non-resale clauses out there....even for cars.
www.caranddriver.com/news/a21622751/the-flip-that-flopped-john-cena-and-ford-settle-gt-resale-lawsuit/
I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for. Actually, there are other non-resale clauses out there....even for cars. www.caranddriver.com/news/a21622751/the-flip-that-flopped-john-cena-and-ford-settle-gt-resale-lawsuit/ |
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Wanchope
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Nov 6, 2023 14:45:39 GMT 1
SOLD, by Wanchope on Nov 6, 2023 14:45:39 GMT 1, Oh God, there is no hope  Seriously though, good article and interesting he is not allowed to sell for two years, but that Ford were allowed to change their agreement and produce for 4 years rather than the stated initial 2 years?? Anyway we digress from art, but thanks for sharing
Oh God, there is no hope Seriously though, good article and interesting he is not allowed to sell for two years, but that Ford were allowed to change their agreement and produce for 4 years rather than the stated initial 2 years?? Anyway we digress from art, but thanks for sharing |
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Lunch Special
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Nov 6, 2023 14:46:28 GMT 1
SOLD, by Lunch Special on Nov 6, 2023 14:46:28 GMT 1, Well, to be fair, you entered a contract with the intention of not keeping it. Even you must see that this is problematic in general, but specifically for dealings on this forum.
OH THE MISSES DOESNT APPROVE
SELLING TO FUND A BIGGER PURCHASE
ONE OF MY GRAILS REXS TLY CAME UP FOR SALE
BUYING A HOUSE
MY LOSS IS YOUR GAIN
and so many other wonky excuses for flipping.
and the three year thing has everything to do with it.
Well, to be fair, you entered a contract with the intention of not keeping it. Even you must see that this is problematic in general, but specifically for dealings on this forum. The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP. Whether itโs within a time frame or not. You just call it different things. Like: OH THE MISSES DOESNT APPROVE SELLING TO FUND A BIGGER PURCHASE ONE OF MY GRAILS REXS TLY CAME UP FOR SALE BUYING A HOUSE MY LOSS IS YOUR GAIN and so many other wonky excuses for flipping. and the three year thing has everything to do with it. |
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Lunch Special
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Nov 6, 2023 14:48:13 GMT 1
SOLD, by Lunch Special on Nov 6, 2023 14:48:13 GMT 1, I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for.
I'm still puzzled and amazed at how many people think that breaking a contract is acceptable. But it is especially ironic with a piece of art that is essentially a critique of capitalism, a type of economy that puts money and profits before everything else. I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for. [/b] [/quote] THAT PART IN BOLD ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS SOMEONE WHO A HAS NO MONEY INVOLVED B OR MADE THE ART |
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Richy Rich
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Nov 6, 2023 15:15:51 GMT 1
SOLD, by Richy Rich on Nov 6, 2023 15:15:51 GMT 1, I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for.
Why are you shouting so loudly?
I'm still amazed that someone thinks its acceptable to include a clause like this and tell me I can't sell my own property. I don't buy a lovely new car and they tell me btw you can't sell it for a few years or actually pretty much any asset in life. As much as I'm not a fan of flipping (it has worked out for me whereby I managed to get the piece due to a hungry flipper), I am much less of a fan of anyone telling me what I can or can't do with my own property that I paid for. [/b] [/quote] THAT PART IN BOLD ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS SOMEONE WHO A HAS NO MONEY INVOLVED B OR MADE THE ART [/quote] Why are you shouting so loudly? |
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Londown 01
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Nov 6, 2023 15:19:22 GMT 1
SOLD, by Londown 01 on Nov 6, 2023 15:19:22 GMT 1, Well, to be fair, you entered a contract with the intention of not keeping it. Even you must see that this is problematic in general, but specifically for dealings on this forum. and the three year thing has everything to do with it.
And what exactly?
Reiterating your point doesn't make it any more convincing.
Neither does shouting, by the way.
Well, to be fair, you entered a contract with the intention of not keeping it. Even you must see that this is problematic in general, but specifically for dealings on this forum. and the three year thing has everything to do with it. And what exactly? Reiterating your point doesn't make it any more convincing. Neither does shouting, by the way. |
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Londown 01
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Nov 6, 2023 15:31:27 GMT 1
SOLD, by Londown 01 on Nov 6, 2023 15:31:27 GMT 1, The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP.
And there is a difference between reselling, flipping and flipping with a non-resale contract in place.
Very disappointing that a long standing forum member like you doesn't see the difference.
The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP. And there is a difference between reselling, flipping and flipping with a non-resale contract in place. Very disappointing that a long standing forum member like you doesn't see the difference. |
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Nov 6, 2023 15:34:04 GMT 1
SOLD, by Johnny Sarcasm on Nov 6, 2023 15:34:04 GMT 1, Meanwhileโฆ this lovely vase is still for sale 
Meanwhileโฆ this lovely vase is still for sale |
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Lunch Special
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Nov 6, 2023 15:55:38 GMT 1
SOLD, by Lunch Special on Nov 6, 2023 15:55:38 GMT 1, The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP. And there is a difference between reselling, flipping and flipping with a non-resale contract in place. Very disappointing that a long standing forum member like you doesn't see the difference.
My only thing is if you bought it itโs yours to do whatever you want but at the same time you did take the opportunity from someone else who may have really really wanted to own and enjoy the art from obtaining it from source and that same fan / aficionado may not be able to buy at the resale price. Thatโs the downside when you post it up right away. But all the other hoopla is just hoopla. Thereโs all types of thingys contracts and the sorts put in places they donโt belong.
But of more important and of great concern. The woke community has come for the simpsons. RIP Life as we knew it.
The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP. And there is a difference between reselling, flipping and flipping with a non-resale contract in place. Very disappointing that a long standing forum member like you doesn't see the difference. Contract lol. Says who? Did the artist sign a contract saying he will only make this color and no multiple colors variants editions aka one trick pony flogging a dead horse etcetera will not be made? My only thing is if you bought it itโs yours to do whatever you want but at the same time you did take the opportunity from someone else who may have really really wanted to own and enjoy the art from obtaining it from source and that same fan / aficionado may not be able to buy at the resale price. Thatโs the downside when you post it up right away. But all the other hoopla is just hoopla. Thereโs all types of thingys contracts and the sorts put in places they donโt belong. But of more important and of great concern. The woke community has come for the simpsons. RIP Life as we knew it. |
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Lunch Special
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Nov 6, 2023 15:56:54 GMT 1
SOLD, by Lunch Special on Nov 6, 2023 15:56:54 GMT 1, and the three year thing has everything to do with it. And what exactly? Reiterating your point doesn't make it any more convincing. Neither does shouting, by the way.
and the three year thing has everything to do with it. And what exactly? Reiterating your point doesn't make it any more convincing. Neither does shouting, by the way. Lower the volume on yourโฆโฆ. |
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Londown 01
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Nov 6, 2023 15:59:35 GMT 1
SOLD, by Londown 01 on Nov 6, 2023 15:59:35 GMT 1, And there is a difference between reselling, flipping and flipping with a non-resale contract in place. Contract lol. Says who?
I guess this is where the "discussion" stops
And there is a difference between reselling, flipping and flipping with a non-resale contract in place. Contract lol. Says who? I guess this is where the "discussion" stops |
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Nov 6, 2023 16:11:59 GMT 1
SOLD, by its all about me on Nov 6, 2023 16:11:59 GMT 1, Well, to be fair, you entered a contract with the intention of not keeping it. Even you must see that this is problematic in general, but specifically for dealings on this forum. The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP. Whether itโs within a time frame or not. You just call it different things. Like: OH THE MISSES DOESNT APPROVE SELLING TO FUND A BIGGER PURCHASE ONE OF MY GRAILS REXS TLY CAME UP FOR SALE BUYING A HOUSE MY LOSS IS YOUR GAIN and so many other wonky excuses for flipping. and the three year thing has everything to do with it.
Well, to be fair, you entered a contract with the intention of not keeping it. Even you must see that this is problematic in general, but specifically for dealings on this forum. The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP. Whether itโs within a time frame or not. You just call it different things. Like: OH THE MISSES DOESNT APPROVE SELLING TO FUND A BIGGER PURCHASE ONE OF MY GRAILS REXS TLY CAME UP FOR SALE BUYING A HOUSE MY LOSS IS YOUR GAIN and so many other wonky excuses for flipping. and the three year thing has everything to do with it. Strangely, you don't seem to understand what the term "flip" actually means. |
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nobokov
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Nov 6, 2023 16:32:44 GMT 1
SOLD, by nobokov on Nov 6, 2023 16:32:44 GMT 1, The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP. Whether itโs within a time frame or not. You just call it different things. Like: OH THE MISSES DOESNT APPROVE SELLING TO FUND A BIGGER PURCHASE ONE OF MY GRAILS REXS TLY CAME UP FOR SALE BUYING A HOUSE MY LOSS IS YOUR GAIN and so many other wonky excuses for flipping. and the three year thing has everything to do with it. Strangely, you don't seem to understand what the term "flip" actually means. I understand what he's saying. In my mind flipping is when a person buys and sells without any intention or want of displaying it, even after 3 years. All the sales posts on here say, "mint, never been displayed."
But then again I don't have any problems with people flipping.
The best part of this forum is the hypocrisy in the Iโm better than thou or the glass house effect here. YOU ALL FLIP. Whether itโs within a time frame or not. You just call it different things. Like: OH THE MISSES DOESNT APPROVE SELLING TO FUND A BIGGER PURCHASE ONE OF MY GRAILS REXS TLY CAME UP FOR SALE BUYING A HOUSE MY LOSS IS YOUR GAIN and so many other wonky excuses for flipping. and the three year thing has everything to do with it. Strangely, you don't seem to understand what the term "flip" actually means. I understand what he's saying. In my mind flipping is when a person buys and sells without any intention or want of displaying it, even after 3 years. All the sales posts on here say, "mint, never been displayed."
But then again I don't have any problems with people flipping. |
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topper
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Nov 6, 2023 16:51:14 GMT 1
SOLD, by topper on Nov 6, 2023 16:51:14 GMT 1, Im not a flipper but each to their own, and generally don't feel it's my place to comment on private transactions between other parties. But there is an issue here in that Avant Arte went out of their way to give the forum a heads up on these vases, and took pre-release orders via emails asking for them for the code.
Ignoring legalities, could we not agree that - buying a vase, moaning about the quality of it for days, moaning about Avant Arte's response for days, then flogging it under their noses - might seem a little like 'bad manners' and not encourage them to do the forum any favours in the future?
Im not a flipper but each to their own, and generally don't feel it's my place to comment on private transactions between other parties. But there is an issue here in that Avant Arte went out of their way to give the forum a heads up on these vases, and took pre-release orders via emails asking for them for the code.
Ignoring legalities, could we not agree that - buying a vase, moaning about the quality of it for days, moaning about Avant Arte's response for days, then flogging it under their noses - might seem a little like 'bad manners' and not encourage them to do the forum any favours in the future?
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ck1
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Nov 6, 2023 18:17:42 GMT 1
SOLD, by ck1 on Nov 6, 2023 18:17:42 GMT 1, Grateful for the Avant Arte interaction with the forum. Curious if those that have sold or are selling got the latest Hyup invitation? I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. Are there consequences?
Grateful for the Avant Arte interaction with the forum. Curious if those that have sold or are selling got the latest Hyup invitation? I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. Are there consequences?
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blurp
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Nov 6, 2023 18:34:06 GMT 1
SOLD, by blurp on Nov 6, 2023 18:34:06 GMT 1, If getting yelled at by strangers on the internet counts as a consequence, there are indeed consequences.
Grateful for the Avant Arte interaction with the forum. Curious if those that have sold or are selling got the latest Hyup invitation? I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. Are there consequences?
If getting yelled at by strangers on the internet counts as a consequence, there are indeed consequences. Grateful for the Avant Arte interaction with the forum. Curious if those that have sold or are selling got the latest Hyup invitation? I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. Are there consequences? |
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nobokov
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Nov 6, 2023 19:28:12 GMT 1
SOLD, by nobokov on Nov 6, 2023 19:28:12 GMT 1, Im not a flipper but each to their own, and generally don't feel it's my place to comment on private transactions between other parties. But there is an issue here in that Avant Arte went out of their way to give the forum a heads up on these vases, and took pre-release orders via emails asking for them for the code. Ignoring legalities, could we not agree that - buying a vase, moaning about the quality of it for days, moaning about Avant Arte's response for days, then flogging it under their noses - might seem a little like 'bad manners' and not encourage them to do the forum any favours in the future?
Isn't it what they actually want though? Sales, hype, fomo.You'd have to assume they kept personal stock for themselves to profit from the hype.
Im not a flipper but each to their own, and generally don't feel it's my place to comment on private transactions between other parties. But there is an issue here in that Avant Arte went out of their way to give the forum a heads up on these vases, and took pre-release orders via emails asking for them for the code. Ignoring legalities, could we not agree that - buying a vase, moaning about the quality of it for days, moaning about Avant Arte's response for days, then flogging it under their noses - might seem a little like 'bad manners' and not encourage them to do the forum any favours in the future?
Isn't it what they actually want though? Sales, hype, fomo.You'd have to assume they kept personal stock for themselves to profit from the hype.
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Nov 6, 2023 19:59:32 GMT 1
SOLD, by its all about me on Nov 6, 2023 19:59:32 GMT 1, Strangely, you don't seem to understand what the term "flip" actually means. I understand what he's saying. In my mind flipping is when a person buys and sells without any intention or want of displaying it, even after 3 years. All the sales posts on here say, "mint, never been displayed."
But then again I don't have any problems with people flipping.
I like to think that most people on here buy art simply because they actually like it, even if they do decide to sell it at some point in the future.
Strangely, you don't seem to understand what the term "flip" actually means. I understand what he's saying. In my mind flipping is when a person buys and sells without any intention or want of displaying it, even after 3 years. All the sales posts on here say, "mint, never been displayed."
But then again I don't have any problems with people flipping. That's not the usual definition of flipping. Flipping is usually understood to be buying an item with the sole intention of selling it immediately for a quick profit. I like to think that most people on here buy art simply because they actually like it, even if they do decide to sell it at some point in the future. |
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Jimini Cricket
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Nov 6, 2023 22:08:07 GMT 1
SOLD, by Jimini Cricket on Nov 6, 2023 22:08:07 GMT 1, Im not a flipper but each to their own, and generally don't feel it's my place to comment on private transactions between other parties. But there is an issue here in that Avant Arte went out of their way to give the forum a heads up on these vases, and took pre-release orders via emails asking for them for the code. Ignoring legalities, could we not agree that - buying a vase, moaning about the quality of it for days, moaning about Avant Arte's response for days, then flogging it under their noses - might seem a little like 'bad manners' and not encourage them to do the forum any favours in the future? OP: LOL. 
Im not a flipper but each to their own, and generally don't feel it's my place to comment on private transactions between other parties. But there is an issue here in that Avant Arte went out of their way to give the forum a heads up on these vases, and took pre-release orders via emails asking for them for the code. Ignoring legalities, could we not agree that - buying a vase, moaning about the quality of it for days, moaning about Avant Arte's response for days, then flogging it under their noses - might seem a little like 'bad manners' and not encourage them to do the forum any favours in the future? Avant Arte: No reselling for 2 years. OP: LOL. |
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Londown 01
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Nov 6, 2023 22:30:55 GMT 1
SOLD, by Londown 01 on Nov 6, 2023 22:30:55 GMT 1, I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences.
That is a very very strange thing to say.
I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. That is a very very strange thing to say. |
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Jimini Cricket
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SOLD, by Jimini Cricket on Nov 6, 2023 22:43:44 GMT 1, I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. That is a very very strange thing to say.
I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. That is a very very strange thing to say. What is strange about it? |
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Nov 6, 2023 22:51:21 GMT 1
SOLD, by jp on Nov 6, 2023 22:51:21 GMT 1, If Avant Arte wanted to enforce their 2 year no resale clause, I suppose they could just not issue a COA for 2 years like Pest Control does.
If they really wanted to discourage buying before the COA has been issued, they could reserve the right to refuse to issue a COA for a resold piece and declare it invalid as part of the edition. I don't know if there is precedence for this to see how well it would work in practice.
If Avant Arte wanted to enforce their 2 year no resale clause, I suppose they could just not issue a COA for 2 years like Pest Control does.
If they really wanted to discourage buying before the COA has been issued, they could reserve the right to refuse to issue a COA for a resold piece and declare it invalid as part of the edition. I don't know if there is precedence for this to see how well it would work in practice.
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Nov 6, 2023 23:07:11 GMT 1
SOLD, by brule on Nov 6, 2023 23:07:11 GMT 1, If Avant Arte wanted to enforce their 2 year no resale clause, I suppose they could just not issue a COA for 2 years like Pest Control does. If they really wanted to discourage buying before the COA has been issued, they could reserve the right to refuse to issue a COA for a resold piece and declare it invalid as part of the edition. I don't know if there is precedence for this to see how well it would work in practice.
If Avant Arte wanted to enforce their 2 year no resale clause, I suppose they could just not issue a COA for 2 years like Pest Control does. If they really wanted to discourage buying before the COA has been issued, they could reserve the right to refuse to issue a COA for a resold piece and declare it invalid as part of the edition. I don't know if there is precedence for this to see how well it would work in practice. They withheld the COA for the timed Rokkaku edition. Not sure why they donโt do it for others. My guess is that they want some flipping but with limited supply to keep the hype up, while at the same time discourage flipping enough that the market is never flooded. I think their current system probably comes pretty close to achieving this. |
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ck1
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SOLD, by ck1 on Nov 7, 2023 2:58:20 GMT 1, I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. That is a very very strange thing to say.
I think people can do what they want as long as they accept the consequences. That is a very very strange thing to say. I live in the wild west. Move fast break things. Accept personal accountability. |
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Seriously though, good article and interesting he is not allowed to sell for two years, but that Ford were allowed to change their agreement and produce for 4 years rather than the stated initial 2 years?? Anyway we digress from art, but thanks for sharing 
