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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Lroy on Dec 7, 2023 12:21:33 GMT 1, A signed Invader for under 1000 euros would be great - i just cannot see it happening but happy to be proven wrong You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before. With all my friendship, we don't care about flippers ! If the only way to fight against, it’s, for the artist and the buyer, to set high or even inaccessible prices (for a print which in 2 years will be sold off, like all the old ones), this is incorrect and dishonest towards buyers who have few resources. Moreover, we buy art initially for pleasure. I find Invader and others very hypocritical to shamelessly increase sales prices because of flippers ! It’s a wrong excuse and artists should forget about flippers (moreover it is the auction houses or ebay which give the value to a work and they are happy to see the enthusiasm about it )
A signed Invader for under 1000 euros would be great - i just cannot see it happening but happy to be proven wrong You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before. With all my friendship, we don't care about flippers ! If the only way to fight against, it’s, for the artist and the buyer, to set high or even inaccessible prices (for a print which in 2 years will be sold off, like all the old ones), this is incorrect and dishonest towards buyers who have few resources. Moreover, we buy art initially for pleasure. I find Invader and others very hypocritical to shamelessly increase sales prices because of flippers ! It’s a wrong excuse and artists should forget about flippers (moreover it is the auction houses or ebay which give the value to a work and they are happy to see the enthusiasm about it )
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by LJCal on Dec 7, 2023 21:29:16 GMT 1, Considering how (mega) weak the last 2 results have been for Invader's ORIGINALS at various auction houses, I reckon prices for that (HUGE edition) release should reflect the current weakness of urban art market (Invader included). I never understand why collectors would panic to buy a 50 edition PRINT (the largest one) for possibly (up to) EUR 7K when they could buy (this week) the original UNIQUE alias LDN_14 for £25K Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases.
Considering how (mega) weak the last 2 results have been for Invader's ORIGINALS at various auction houses, I reckon prices for that (HUGE edition) release should reflect the current weakness of urban art market (Invader included). I never understand why collectors would panic to buy a 50 edition PRINT (the largest one) for possibly (up to) EUR 7K when they could buy (this week) the original UNIQUE alias LDN_14 for £25K Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases.
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LJCal
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by LJCal on Dec 7, 2023 21:32:01 GMT 1, You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before. With all my friendship, we don't care about flippers ! If the only way to fight against, it’s, for the artist and the buyer, to set high or even inaccessible prices (for a print which in 2 years will be sold off, like all the old ones), this is incorrect and dishonest towards buyers who have few resources. Moreover, we buy art initially for pleasure. I find Invader and others very hypocritical to shamelessly increase sales prices because of flippers ! It’s a wrong excuse and artists should forget about flippers (moreover it is the auction houses or ebay which give the value to a work and they are happy to see the enthusiasm about it ) I don’t think he increases prices because of flippers but probably because he likes money. Saying that to have works flipped excessively will of course harm an artists market if it starts bringing down prices and the perception of value/scarcity.
You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before. With all my friendship, we don't care about flippers ! If the only way to fight against, it’s, for the artist and the buyer, to set high or even inaccessible prices (for a print which in 2 years will be sold off, like all the old ones), this is incorrect and dishonest towards buyers who have few resources. Moreover, we buy art initially for pleasure. I find Invader and others very hypocritical to shamelessly increase sales prices because of flippers ! It’s a wrong excuse and artists should forget about flippers (moreover it is the auction houses or ebay which give the value to a work and they are happy to see the enthusiasm about it ) I don’t think he increases prices because of flippers but probably because he likes money. Saying that to have works flipped excessively will of course harm an artists market if it starts bringing down prices and the perception of value/scarcity.
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Shoot Again
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Shoot Again on Dec 7, 2023 22:30:23 GMT 1, Considering how (mega) weak the last 2 results have been for Invader's ORIGINALS at various auction houses, I reckon prices for that (HUGE edition) release should reflect the current weakness of urban art market (Invader included). I never understand why collectors would panic to buy a 50 edition PRINT (the largest one) for possibly (up to) EUR 7K when they could buy (this week) the original UNIQUE alias LDN_14 for £25K Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!!
Considering how (mega) weak the last 2 results have been for Invader's ORIGINALS at various auction houses, I reckon prices for that (HUGE edition) release should reflect the current weakness of urban art market (Invader included). I never understand why collectors would panic to buy a 50 edition PRINT (the largest one) for possibly (up to) EUR 7K when they could buy (this week) the original UNIQUE alias LDN_14 for £25K Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!!
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LJCal
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by LJCal on Dec 8, 2023 0:50:06 GMT 1, Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!! That’s hammer price plus 27% BP. another £1,080 for VAT for UK and most EU buyers, plus 4% ARR so £800. £27,280 all in.
Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!! That’s hammer price plus 27% BP. another £1,080 for VAT for UK and most EU buyers, plus 4% ARR so £800. £27,280 all in.
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yojoe007
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by yojoe007 on Dec 13, 2023 13:10:09 GMT 1, Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!! While I agree with this *in general principle*, depending on the wealth of the collector (in this case investor?), it puts "all eggs in one basket". E.g. for that kind of money I could enjoy prints from many, many artists vs. one OG from Invader. Or one original from whomever. Unless you *know* the fate of that artist's pricing, it's effectively a one horse gamble (unless you're a baller with a collection of OGs in the same way many of us collect prints).
Tl;dr I'm too poor for originals, so I buy prints 😂
Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!! While I agree with this *in general principle*, depending on the wealth of the collector (in this case investor?), it puts "all eggs in one basket". E.g. for that kind of money I could enjoy prints from many, many artists vs. one OG from Invader. Or one original from whomever. Unless you *know* the fate of that artist's pricing, it's effectively a one horse gamble (unless you're a baller with a collection of OGs in the same way many of us collect prints). Tl;dr I'm too poor for originals, so I buy prints 😂
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Forbidden Love
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Forbidden Love on Dec 13, 2023 15:07:07 GMT 1, Did anyone get the PDF pricelist from Dappy?
Did anyone get the PDF pricelist from Dappy?
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kjg
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by kjg on Dec 13, 2023 15:10:35 GMT 1, Did anyone get the PDF pricelist from Dappy? You know which month you should have received that email.
Did anyone get the PDF pricelist from Dappy? You know which month you should have received that email.
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stuckeyc
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by stuckeyc on Dec 13, 2023 15:48:47 GMT 1, I am guessing these will be sold at the show with a small allotment available via lottery just like the Alert print.
I am guessing these will be sold at the show with a small allotment available via lottery just like the Alert print.
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Inknart
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Inknart on Dec 13, 2023 15:55:40 GMT 1, Didn't he complete another print 3 or so months ago that matched the book he released as a LE?
Didn't he complete another print 3 or so months ago that matched the book he released as a LE?
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by The Italian One on Dec 13, 2023 15:57:12 GMT 1, Did anyone get the PDF pricelist from Dappy? a bargain if you are able to buy at first batch
Did anyone get the PDF pricelist from Dappy? a bargain if you are able to buy at first batch
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Lroy on Dec 13, 2023 17:12:58 GMT 1, I am guessing these will be sold at the show with a small allotment available via lottery just like the Alert print. I remember : a lot of us wanted this print, went even to the show and/or bought it via the web ( I think) . Everyone was so happy and paid a lot : have you seen the price of the resale now ( even at 6k or less it does not sell) ? I think that there is a problem with print drops and value, why are we so tempted to get one ? For the beauty and to frame it ? But we’d like that the marked does not flow … In fact the hype are guiding us.
I am guessing these will be sold at the show with a small allotment available via lottery just like the Alert print. I remember : a lot of us wanted this print, went even to the show and/or bought it via the web ( I think) . Everyone was so happy and paid a lot : have you seen the price of the resale now ( even at 6k or less it does not sell) ? I think that there is a problem with print drops and value, why are we so tempted to get one ? For the beauty and to frame it ? But we’d like that the marked does not flow … In fact the hype are guiding us.
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stuckeyc
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by stuckeyc on Dec 13, 2023 17:27:58 GMT 1, I am guessing these will be sold at the show with a small allotment available via lottery just like the Alert print. I remember : a lot of us wanted this print, went even to the show and/or bought it via the web ( I think) . Everyone was so happy and paid a lot : have you seen the price of the resale now ( even at 6k or less it does not sell) ? I think that there is a problem with print drops and value, why are we so tempted to get one ? For the beauty and to frame it ? But we’d like that the marked does not flow … In fact the hype are guiding us. I am very happy that I hit the spaceshop lottery for the SE. In hindsight I should ha e gone with my gut and bought the red because I think that's the best of the bunch but don't really worry about resale I'm general
I am guessing these will be sold at the show with a small allotment available via lottery just like the Alert print. I remember : a lot of us wanted this print, went even to the show and/or bought it via the web ( I think) . Everyone was so happy and paid a lot : have you seen the price of the resale now ( even at 6k or less it does not sell) ? I think that there is a problem with print drops and value, why are we so tempted to get one ? For the beauty and to frame it ? But we’d like that the marked does not flow … In fact the hype are guiding us. I am very happy that I hit the spaceshop lottery for the SE. In hindsight I should ha e gone with my gut and bought the red because I think that's the best of the bunch but don't really worry about resale I'm general
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lukas01
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by lukas01 on Dec 13, 2023 17:29:29 GMT 1, Did anyone get the PDF pricelist from Dappy? No PDF, not necessary. I received the invitation to the exhibition directly and the possibility to purchase online as a preview. I got the little one for £500. I also bought a bicycle because in France they said it will be useful. Fantastic!
Did anyone get the PDF pricelist from Dappy? No PDF, not necessary. I received the invitation to the exhibition directly and the possibility to purchase online as a preview. I got the little one for £500. I also bought a bicycle because in France they said it will be useful. Fantastic!
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by mmmati on Dec 13, 2023 18:32:07 GMT 1, but do we know any details about the show and release?
but do we know any details about the show and release?
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Lroy on Dec 13, 2023 18:45:46 GMT 1, but do we know any details about the show and release? It’s a bit earlier I guess. The space is enormous. we just know about prints ( Camo and the 4000 one ) and about a book (or catalog).
someone should have a look through the Liberation ‘s windows … 👀
but do we know any details about the show and release? It’s a bit earlier I guess. The space is enormous. we just know about prints ( Camo and the 4000 one ) and about a book (or catalog). someone should have a look through the Liberation ‘s windows … 👀
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Ads Army
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Ads Army on Dec 13, 2023 19:22:26 GMT 1, Who is Dappy and what is this preview list ?
Thanks
Who is Dappy and what is this preview list ?
Thanks
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JL Broooks
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by JL Broooks on Dec 13, 2023 19:35:54 GMT 1, Dappy is the Moderator in here with early access to most releases and shows. He shares his precious pdf’s with his inner circle in here - just DM him 😉
Dappy is the Moderator in here with early access to most releases and shows. He shares his precious pdf’s with his inner circle in here - just DM him 😉
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by iforgot my username on Dec 13, 2023 19:56:26 GMT 1, Who is Dappy and what is this preview list ? Thanks There is NO preview list for prints lol. I believe they're talking about the preview from the Originals that were $60K. Father forgive me if I'm wrong but this seems like a lot of misinformation...
Who is Dappy and what is this preview list ? Thanks There is NO preview list for prints lol. I believe they're talking about the preview from the Originals that were $60K. Father forgive me if I'm wrong but this seems like a lot of misinformation...
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Londown 01 on Dec 13, 2023 20:08:38 GMT 1, When you know you know. And when you don't know you don't know!
When you know you know. And when you don't know you don't know!
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Inknart
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Inknart on Dec 13, 2023 20:14:33 GMT 1, I think OTI still has some OG Camo's avail from last show. They were 45k I believe and negotiable.
I think OTI still has some OG Camo's avail from last show. They were 45k I believe and negotiable.
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Lroy on Dec 13, 2023 20:24:32 GMT 1, Who is Dappy and what is this preview list ? Thanks .dappy is really .dappy. But this PDF/previous list ?.. erm...
Who is Dappy and what is this preview list ? Thanks .dappy is really .dappy. But this PDF/previous list ?.. erm...
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kjg
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by kjg on Dec 13, 2023 20:43:49 GMT 1, And don’t forget: the January email is coming in hot!
And don’t forget: the January email is coming in hot!
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by iforgot my username on Dec 13, 2023 22:30:13 GMT 1, When you know you know. And when you don't know you don't know! Everyone loves a good circle jerk...
See you guys in Paris
When you know you know. And when you don't know you don't know! Everyone loves a good circle jerk... See you guys in Paris
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yojoe007
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by yojoe007 on Dec 14, 2023 0:23:20 GMT 1, I am guessing these will be sold at the show with a small allotment available via lottery just like the Alert print. I remember : a lot of us wanted this print, went even to the show and/or bought it via the web ( I think) . Everyone was so happy and paid a lot : have you seen the price of the resale now ( even at 6k or less it does not sell) ? I think that there is a problem with print drops and value, why are we so tempted to get one ? For the beauty and to frame it ? But we’d like that the marked does not flow … In fact the hype are guiding us. I wouldn't worry much about prices/values. It's all cyclical, and the world economy has plunged all "frivolous" markets into comparative lows when compared to the flowing cash/stimulus, low interest rate covid times... baseball cards, comics, vintage toys, collectibles in general, all went gangbusters, and are now all suffering.
We buy, or did at least, because we enjoy the art, images, feelings, enjoyment we get from prints, books, sculptures, originals (if lucky enough) - some buy only with expectation of profit/return (I know this isn't you, Lroy - just a general observation). Since the hype train for Invader arrived the market has become more competitive, with people more eager to sell for less when times get tough as they buy for the second reason as opposed to the first.
When economies "stabilse" a little, in a few years, I'm sure it will turn around. And if it doesn't, I'll be able to enjoy my little Invader collection with less "guilt" that maybe I should sell it all & put it on the mortgage 🤷♂️
I am guessing these will be sold at the show with a small allotment available via lottery just like the Alert print. I remember : a lot of us wanted this print, went even to the show and/or bought it via the web ( I think) . Everyone was so happy and paid a lot : have you seen the price of the resale now ( even at 6k or less it does not sell) ? I think that there is a problem with print drops and value, why are we so tempted to get one ? For the beauty and to frame it ? But we’d like that the marked does not flow … In fact the hype are guiding us. I wouldn't worry much about prices/values. It's all cyclical, and the world economy has plunged all "frivolous" markets into comparative lows when compared to the flowing cash/stimulus, low interest rate covid times... baseball cards, comics, vintage toys, collectibles in general, all went gangbusters, and are now all suffering. We buy, or did at least, because we enjoy the art, images, feelings, enjoyment we get from prints, books, sculptures, originals (if lucky enough) - some buy only with expectation of profit/return (I know this isn't you, Lroy - just a general observation). Since the hype train for Invader arrived the market has become more competitive, with people more eager to sell for less when times get tough as they buy for the second reason as opposed to the first. When economies "stabilse" a little, in a few years, I'm sure it will turn around. And if it doesn't, I'll be able to enjoy my little Invader collection with less "guilt" that maybe I should sell it all & put it on the mortgage 🤷♂️
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Runit
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Runit on Dec 14, 2023 15:21:32 GMT 1, So what are the prices starting at for these invader prints?
So what are the prices starting at for these invader prints?
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Grillocracy
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Grillocracy on Jan 30, 2024 22:29:21 GMT 1, Still anxiously waiting.
Still anxiously waiting.
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by yoss on Jan 30, 2024 22:33:24 GMT 1, Meeee toooo!!!
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Onket
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by Onket on Jan 30, 2024 22:39:04 GMT 1, Ditto.
Ditto.
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lukas01
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Invader - new print CAMO!, by lukas01 on Jan 30, 2024 23:19:52 GMT 1, I heard an extraterrestrial Invader and these could be the prices!
I threw a fortune into that video game! Anyone who wants to challenge me should come forward! 😎
I heard an extraterrestrial Invader and these could be the prices! I threw a fortune into that video game! Anyone who wants to challenge me should come forward! 😎
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