drip
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by drip on Feb 3, 2024 12:37:46 GMT 1, Who else was expecting to see a paint-splattered Hirst walking around the factory and licking the rollers or something?
Who else was expecting to see a paint-splattered Hirst walking around the factory and licking the rollers or something?
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Londown 01
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Londown 01 on Feb 3, 2024 13:05:56 GMT 1, God, not sure them showing the process is a selling point. At least we now know why they always come with a glossy finish: because the sheet/ image itself looks perfectly underwhelming
God, not sure them showing the process is a selling point. At least we now know why they always come with a glossy finish: because the sheet/ image itself looks perfectly underwhelming
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drip
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by drip on Feb 3, 2024 13:24:28 GMT 1, God, not sure them showing the process is a selling point. At least we now know why they always come with a glossy finish: because the sheet/ image itself looks perfectly underwhelming True dat. The glossiness makes the colours pop, makes them more vivid. Without the gloss they'd look like one of those cheap prints of the watercolours of the Malvern Hills that your nan does.
God, not sure them showing the process is a selling point. At least we now know why they always come with a glossy finish: because the sheet/ image itself looks perfectly underwhelming True dat. The glossiness makes the colours pop, makes them more vivid. Without the gloss they'd look like one of those cheap prints of the watercolours of the Malvern Hills that your nan does.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by loui on Feb 3, 2024 14:07:02 GMT 1, I wonder if Hirst is coming up with the ideas himself. Hard to imagine him in a garden. Maybe he watches Monty Don on the telly ๐๐ท
I wonder if Hirst is coming up with the ideas himself. Hard to imagine him in a garden. Maybe he watches Monty Don on the telly ๐๐ท
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by its all about me on Feb 3, 2024 14:20:16 GMT 1, God, not sure them showing the process is a selling point. Mass produced in the factory like wrapping paper - but we will charge you ยฃ4k Very true. I disliked them before but now I've watched the video I dislike them even more.
God, not sure them showing the process is a selling point. Mass produced in the factory like wrapping paper - but we will charge you ยฃ4k Very true. I disliked them before but now I've watched the video I dislike them even more.
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drip
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by drip on Feb 3, 2024 14:20:25 GMT 1, I can picture him in a garden. Confused, scared, concerned homeowners calling the police.
I can picture him in a garden. Confused, scared, concerned homeowners calling the police.
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loui
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by loui on Feb 3, 2024 14:24:55 GMT 1, Maybe heโs really kind. Iโve never met him. No need to be concerned I think, if he splashes paint, just splash back ๐บ๐
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Maybe heโs really kind. Iโve never met him. No need to be concerned I think, if he splashes paint, just splash back ๐บ๐
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Art lover lover on Feb 3, 2024 17:17:54 GMT 1, Mirror mirror on the wall..... Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks.
lol. Thanks.
Mirror mirror on the wall..... Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks. lol. Thanks.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Majestic on Feb 3, 2024 19:27:17 GMT 1, Wow...yeah they've done themselves no favours releasing the production process.
If I was tempted before this has killed it. An artistic process void of all emotion.
Wow...yeah they've done themselves no favours releasing the production process.
If I was tempted before this has killed it. An artistic process void of all emotion.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Art lover lover on Feb 3, 2024 20:03:33 GMT 1, Lots in the Heni discord Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks.
Donโt see many. Do you have a link?
Lots in the Heni discord Has anyone been to see these? Would be great to get some live pics. Thanks. Donโt see many. Do you have a link?
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by artlife11 on Feb 4, 2024 5:11:27 GMT 1, I saw the originals at Frieze London and they looked great. Not going for them as bought Empresses which I liked. Difficult decision and different times but was really impressed with originals
I saw the originals at Frieze London and they looked great. Not going for them as bought Empresses which I liked. Difficult decision and different times but was really impressed with originals
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by alibertine on Feb 4, 2024 21:46:19 GMT 1, Are they doing don't pay vat while it's in Heni storage on these ? Carl Cashman Art - q urite ate
Are they doing don't pay vat while it's in Heni storage on these ? Carl Cashman Art - q urite ate
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Carl Cashman Art on Feb 5, 2024 9:16:23 GMT 1, Are they doing don't pay vat while it's in Heni storage on these ? Carl Cashman Art - q urite ate
What does that mean ?
In answer to my own question, you don't pay VAT while it's in the vault.
Are they doing don't pay vat while it's in Heni storage on these ? Carl Cashman Art - q urite ate What does that mean ? In answer to my own question, you don't pay VAT while it's in the vault.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by alibertine on Feb 5, 2024 15:05:26 GMT 1, biddles too Cue a collective breakdown by the internet big, it was just missing and n Karl
biddles too Cue a collective breakdown by the internet big, it was just missing and n Karl
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Carl Cashman Art on Feb 5, 2024 17:48:16 GMT 1, Really wish I could commit to one, just not the best time of year.
Really wish I could commit to one, just not the best time of year.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by ruken on Feb 12, 2024 12:01:22 GMT 1, Has anyone heard back about the edition numbers for this?
Has anyone heard back about the edition numbers for this?
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by The Italian One on Feb 12, 2024 14:15:11 GMT 1, Has anyone heard back about the edition numbers for this? I'm curious too
don't know why but I think will be the lowest ever.. happy if I'm wrong
Has anyone heard back about the edition numbers for this? I'm curious too don't know why but I think will be the lowest ever.. happy if I'm wrong
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by stendhal on Feb 13, 2024 20:01:07 GMT 1, Final Numbers: H14-1 - Realisation: 395 H14-2 - Happiness: 327 H14-3 - Tolerance: 402 H14-4 - Wisdom: 319 H14-5 - Reassurance: 312 H14-6 - Resolution: 383 H14-7 - Selflessness: 578 H14-8 - Knowledge: 413
pretty so soโฆ
Final Numbers: H14-1 - Realisation: 395 H14-2 - Happiness: 327 H14-3 - Tolerance: 402 H14-4 - Wisdom: 319 H14-5 - Reassurance: 312 H14-6 - Resolution: 383 H14-7 - Selflessness: 578 H14-8 - Knowledge: 413
pretty so soโฆ
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by artenthusiast241 on Feb 13, 2024 23:32:36 GMT 1, Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run!
Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run!
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Acme Thunderer on Feb 13, 2024 23:56:44 GMT 1, Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run! You keep convincing yourself that 3,129 is a low edition. ๐คฃ
Afraid, I can confidently predict they wonโt perform well.
Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run! You keep convincing yourself that 3,129 is a low edition. ๐คฃ Afraid, I can confidently predict they wonโt perform well.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by brule on Feb 14, 2024 0:09:58 GMT 1, Iโm genuinely curious to see the numbers for Virtues 2 or Vices or whatever the next cherry blossom dibond series is called. Seems inevitable at this point.
Iโm genuinely curious to see the numbers for Virtues 2 or Vices or whatever the next cherry blossom dibond series is called. Seems inevitable at this point.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Smokeidaeye on Feb 14, 2024 0:14:48 GMT 1, Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run! You keep convincing yourself that 3,129 is a low edition. ๐คฃ Afraid, I can confidently predict they wonโt perform well.
Yeah, I'm glad I decided to spend a little more and buy a Currency UP from a member here.
I wonder how many of the buyers actually purchased to hand on their walls versus hoping to flip for a small profit or loss.
Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run! You keep convincing yourself that 3,129 is a low edition. ๐คฃ Afraid, I can confidently predict they wonโt perform well.
Yeah, I'm glad I decided to spend a little more and buy a Currency UP from a member here.
I wonder how many of the buyers actually purchased to hand on their walls versus hoping to flip for a small profit or loss.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Happy Shopper on Feb 14, 2024 0:17:57 GMT 1, Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run! Iโm not sure that being less popular will now make them more popularโฆ But you never know! Demand is what will determine secondary prices.
Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run! Iโm not sure that being less popular will now make them more popularโฆ But you never know! Demand is what will determine secondary prices.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Riotcops on Feb 14, 2024 6:07:28 GMT 1, Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run! Low supply equates to low demand. 'Less than cost' posts are imminent.
Great edition size! Less than 10% of empresses and 20% of cherry blossoms. Low supply, beautiful prints and blue chip artist. These will perform well in the long run! Low supply equates to low demand. 'Less than cost' posts are imminent.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by artenthusiast241 on Feb 14, 2024 8:49:42 GMT 1, Disagree. In the short term thereโs no way to beat the system when they are printing on demand. He could get away selling 3500+ edition sizes per piece for red glitter during the asset bubble times. Ultimately what determines the long term fundamental value is how they look. Thereโs a reason why cherry blossoms still sells at 3x even with 1500+ edition sizes - they look great. Now we are in a totally different environment- money is no longer sloshing around as it was and interest rates are at 5%. Here we have a relatively low edition size to his other drops (paper screenprints can go up to 300-500) and a very relatable aesthetic to the mainstream - abstract gardens. Supply cut, beautiful nature, damien hirst, 300 edition size per piece, 120x93 size for $3,500 - itโs a no brainer investment. Time will tell but iโm expecting at least 2x. Damien has gone commercial for a reason - art is becoming more commercial and less exclusive. An investment banker walking past a gallery and seeing cherry blossoms or a garden that he is happy to hang on the wall of his new flat signed by a blue chip artist with a 300 edition size - he wont even blink twice to spend ยฃ5k on that. Thatโs 1.5 investment just like that. Oh and did we mention inflation is still at 5% annualised?
Disagree. In the short term thereโs no way to beat the system when they are printing on demand. He could get away selling 3500+ edition sizes per piece for red glitter during the asset bubble times. Ultimately what determines the long term fundamental value is how they look. Thereโs a reason why cherry blossoms still sells at 3x even with 1500+ edition sizes - they look great. Now we are in a totally different environment- money is no longer sloshing around as it was and interest rates are at 5%. Here we have a relatively low edition size to his other drops (paper screenprints can go up to 300-500) and a very relatable aesthetic to the mainstream - abstract gardens. Supply cut, beautiful nature, damien hirst, 300 edition size per piece, 120x93 size for $3,500 - itโs a no brainer investment. Time will tell but iโm expecting at least 2x. Damien has gone commercial for a reason - art is becoming more commercial and less exclusive. An investment banker walking past a gallery and seeing cherry blossoms or a garden that he is happy to hang on the wall of his new flat signed by a blue chip artist with a 300 edition size - he wont even blink twice to spend ยฃ5k on that. Thatโs 1.5 investment just like that. Oh and did we mention inflation is still at 5% annualised?
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Londown 01 on Feb 14, 2024 9:16:42 GMT 1, Ultimately what determines the long term fundamental value is how they look. Just not true.
And if it were true: they look like shit.
Thank you for reading.
Ultimately what determines the long term fundamental value is how they look. Just not true. And if it were true: they look like shit. Thank you for reading.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Pawel on Feb 14, 2024 9:22:21 GMT 1, I though these numbers are really low and then it occured to me that I considered Condo edition size as too large at 150 each, 450 total.
I though these numbers are really low and then it occured to me that I considered Condo edition size as too large at 150 each, 450 total.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by artenthusiast241 on Feb 14, 2024 9:29:10 GMT 1, The issue is you canโt look at the total drop size because each piece is quite individual vs. Cherry blossoms where you had a similar recurring design. The game is to pick the winner out of the 8 pieces. Using the frieze art fair as a proxy is a good starting point. There are 2 pieces that are exact replicas of the real thing and 1 that is similar. When the real pieces sell for 500k-1m at auction, Iโll tell you for a fact that an exact print replica personally signed by damien will not be fetching for $3.5k on the secondaryโฆ
The issue is you canโt look at the total drop size because each piece is quite individual vs. Cherry blossoms where you had a similar recurring design. The game is to pick the winner out of the 8 pieces. Using the frieze art fair as a proxy is a good starting point. There are 2 pieces that are exact replicas of the real thing and 1 that is similar. When the real pieces sell for 500k-1m at auction, Iโll tell you for a fact that an exact print replica personally signed by damien will not be fetching for $3.5k on the secondaryโฆ
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Acme Thunderer on Feb 14, 2024 9:46:30 GMT 1, Whilst UAA should never be considered the barometer on whether art is any good, the fact that there is only 5 pages for a Damien Hirst release (and wholly negative) should give anyone with half a brain cell a clue that these are not good investments.
Whilst UAA should never be considered the barometer on whether art is any good, the fact that there is only 5 pages for a Damien Hirst release (and wholly negative) should give anyone with half a brain cell a clue that these are not good investments.
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Damien Hirst H14 โข The Secrets, by Someone Like You on Feb 14, 2024 9:58:17 GMT 1, I always liked them, but I certainly wouldn't buy them from Heni, when they can be found from a few flipper at 2000 euros in a while:-X
I always liked them, but I certainly wouldn't buy them from Heni, when they can be found from a few flipper at 2000 euros in a while:-X
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