Terry Fuckwitt
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Terry Fuckwitt on Jan 21, 2024 19:49:26 GMT 1, I'm not a massive George Condo fan, but he was fuckin awesome playing Anton in the film 'No country for old men'
I'm not a massive George Condo fan, but he was fuckin awesome playing Anton in the film 'No country for old men'
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brule
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by brule on Jan 21, 2024 19:50:46 GMT 1, Iโm not sure I follow? Can you explain further on the post above? I was trying to make the point that even if sales from 2020-21 arenโt a good comparison for todayโs art market, I see these being at least as desirable as the Virtues editions and there seems to be a lot of buyers for those well above โฌ6k. Whoever lands these on release will be lucky in my opinion, and will be well ahead of where youโd be if you got them on secondary, even if theyโre not reselling at 20k.
Iโm not sure I follow? Can you explain further on the post above? I was trying to make the point that even if sales from 2020-21 arenโt a good comparison for todayโs art market, I see these being at least as desirable as the Virtues editions and there seems to be a lot of buyers for those well above โฌ6k. Whoever lands these on release will be lucky in my opinion, and will be well ahead of where youโd be if you got them on secondary, even if theyโre not reselling at 20k.
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Jimini Cricket
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Jimini Cricket on Jan 21, 2024 19:54:36 GMT 1, Iโm not sure I follow? Can you explain further on the post above? I was trying to make the point that even if sales from 2020-21 arenโt a good comparison for todayโs art market, I see these being at least as desirable as the Virtues editions and there seems to be a lot of buyers for those well above โฌ6k. Whoever lands these on release will be lucky in my opinion, and will be well ahead of where youโd be if you got them on secondary, even if theyโre not reselling at 20k. The Harland Miller White Cube Hate's Outta Date print baghodlers would like to have a word with you.
Iโm not sure I follow? Can you explain further on the post above? I was trying to make the point that even if sales from 2020-21 arenโt a good comparison for todayโs art market, I see these being at least as desirable as the Virtues editions and there seems to be a lot of buyers for those well above โฌ6k. Whoever lands these on release will be lucky in my opinion, and will be well ahead of where youโd be if you got them on secondary, even if theyโre not reselling at 20k. The Harland Miller White Cube Hate's Outta Date print baghodlers would like to have a word with you.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Wimbledon 1981 on Jan 21, 2024 19:59:37 GMT 1, I think given this is the first print by condo in 4 or 5 years, and theyโre large A+ images, means that theyโll be pre sold by a week from now to existing AA clients and friends.
Itโll be the biggest release for them to date, in terms of visibility and demand.
I think given this is the first print by condo in 4 or 5 years, and theyโre large A+ images, means that theyโll be pre sold by a week from now to existing AA clients and friends.
Itโll be the biggest release for them to date, in terms of visibility and demand.
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brule
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by brule on Jan 21, 2024 20:04:03 GMT 1, I was trying to make the point that even if sales from 2020-21 arenโt a good comparison for todayโs art market, I see these being at least as desirable as the Virtues editions and there seems to be a lot of buyers for those well above โฌ6k. Whoever lands these on release will be lucky in my opinion, and will be well ahead of where youโd be if you got them on secondary, even if theyโre not reselling at 20k. The Harland Miller White Cube Hate's Outta Date print baghodlers would like to have a word with you. Obviously there arenโt any guarantees here (especially if you donโt intend to break the 2 year resale) but I think the Miller print was more expensive at release and part of a much bigger stream of editioned work.
I was trying to make the point that even if sales from 2020-21 arenโt a good comparison for todayโs art market, I see these being at least as desirable as the Virtues editions and there seems to be a lot of buyers for those well above โฌ6k. Whoever lands these on release will be lucky in my opinion, and will be well ahead of where youโd be if you got them on secondary, even if theyโre not reselling at 20k. The Harland Miller White Cube Hate's Outta Date print baghodlers would like to have a word with you. Obviously there arenโt any guarantees here (especially if you donโt intend to break the 2 year resale) but I think the Miller print was more expensive at release and part of a much bigger stream of editioned work.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Wimbledon 1981 on Jan 21, 2024 20:06:25 GMT 1, Canโt compare George Condo to Harland Miller. At all.
The closest comparisons Iโd make are Jonas Wood Prints or Rashid Johnson.
Again, no prints in the last 4/5 years. The Rashid prints are editions of 50 and sell for 50k.
Either way, my point is, itโs a significant opportunity to those that can avail it.
Canโt compare George Condo to Harland Miller. At all.
The closest comparisons Iโd make are Jonas Wood Prints or Rashid Johnson.
Again, no prints in the last 4/5 years. The Rashid prints are editions of 50 and sell for 50k.
Either way, my point is, itโs a significant opportunity to those that can avail it.
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brule
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by brule on Jan 21, 2024 20:10:17 GMT 1, Iโm not really a fan of HM so I was avoiding comparisons of the art/artist.
Iโm not really a fan of HM so I was avoiding comparisons of the art/artist.
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The Origin
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by The Origin on Jan 21, 2024 20:13:14 GMT 1, I was trying to make the point that even if sales from 2020-21 arenโt a good comparison for todayโs art market, I see these being at least as desirable as the Virtues editions and there seems to be a lot of buyers for those well above โฌ6k. Whoever lands these on release will be lucky in my opinion, and will be well ahead of where youโd be if you got them on secondary, even if theyโre not reselling at 20k. The Harland Miller White Cube Hate's Outta Date print baghodlers would like to have a word with you. Iโm not sure you can really compare Condo and Millerโฆthey are not exactly in the same league are theyโฆ
The Miller print pricing never made much sense to me when compared to the prices his originals achieve.
All will be revealed later this year I guess.
Either way itโs really impressive AA have managed to get this release with Condo. Look forward to seeing what else they have coming up this year.
I was trying to make the point that even if sales from 2020-21 arenโt a good comparison for todayโs art market, I see these being at least as desirable as the Virtues editions and there seems to be a lot of buyers for those well above โฌ6k. Whoever lands these on release will be lucky in my opinion, and will be well ahead of where youโd be if you got them on secondary, even if theyโre not reselling at 20k. The Harland Miller White Cube Hate's Outta Date print baghodlers would like to have a word with you. Iโm not sure you can really compare Condo and Millerโฆthey are not exactly in the same league are theyโฆ The Miller print pricing never made much sense to me when compared to the prices his originals achieve. All will be revealed later this year I guess. Either way itโs really impressive AA have managed to get this release with Condo. Look forward to seeing what else they have coming up this year.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by High Contrast on Jan 21, 2024 20:19:09 GMT 1, A lot of hype = a lot of allocations to said members = a lot of investment protection = a lot of flipping and wild price estimations
And the ferris wheel goes around yet again.
A lot of hype = a lot of allocations to said members = a lot of investment protection = a lot of flipping and wild price estimations
And the ferris wheel goes around yet again.
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30sir
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by 30sir on Jan 21, 2024 20:26:24 GMT 1, Is this the biggest release through AA yet?
Is this the biggest release through AA yet?
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Wimbledon 1981 on Jan 21, 2024 20:27:41 GMT 1, It is the most visible to date. The founders talk about their love of George Condo.
It will have the most celebration and high profile client allocations.
So I think yes. Itโll be exciting to see it rolled out in a few weeks.
It is the most visible to date. The founders talk about their love of George Condo.
It will have the most celebration and high profile client allocations.
So I think yes. Itโll be exciting to see it rolled out in a few weeks.
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Jimini Cricket
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Jimini Cricket on Jan 21, 2024 20:28:12 GMT 1, A lot of hype = a lot of allocations to said members = a lot of investment protection = a lot of flipping and wild price estimations And the ferris wheel goes around yet again. Well, AA kinda owe their members after years of making them spend tens of thousands on bricks that they will never get their money back on.
A lot of hype = a lot of allocations to said members = a lot of investment protection = a lot of flipping and wild price estimations And the ferris wheel goes around yet again. Well, AA kinda owe their members after years of making them spend tens of thousands on bricks that they will never get their money back on.
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30sir
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by 30sir on Jan 21, 2024 20:29:26 GMT 1, A lot of hype = a lot of allocations to said members = a lot of investment protection = a lot of flipping and wild price estimations And the ferris wheel goes around yet again. Well, AA kinda owe their members after years of making them spend tens of thousands on bricks that they will never get their money back on. Are AA the Rolex of the art world?
A lot of hype = a lot of allocations to said members = a lot of investment protection = a lot of flipping and wild price estimations And the ferris wheel goes around yet again. Well, AA kinda owe their members after years of making them spend tens of thousands on bricks that they will never get their money back on. Are AA the Rolex of the art world?
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Jimini Cricket
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Jimini Cricket on Jan 21, 2024 20:44:12 GMT 1, Well, AA kinda owe their members after years of making them spend tens of thousands on bricks that they will never get their money back on. Are AA the Rolex of the art world? No. That's too much credit.
Well, AA kinda owe their members after years of making them spend tens of thousands on bricks that they will never get their money back on. Are AA the Rolex of the art world? No. That's too much credit.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Someone Like You on Jan 21, 2024 20:44:19 GMT 1, I'm just saying that anyone who takes it to sell it in the short term will have some nasty surprises, but will see
I'm just saying that anyone who takes it to sell it in the short term will have some nasty surprises, but will see
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brule
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by brule on Jan 21, 2024 20:48:50 GMT 1, A lot of hype = a lot of allocations to said members = a lot of investment protection = a lot of flipping and wild price estimations And the ferris wheel goes around yet again. I sadly do not have an allocation. Youโll be amazed at my levels of hype if I get my hands on one though.
A lot of hype = a lot of allocations to said members = a lot of investment protection = a lot of flipping and wild price estimations And the ferris wheel goes around yet again. I sadly do not have an allocation. Youโll be amazed at my levels of hype if I get my hands on one though.
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Jimini Cricket
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Jimini Cricket on Jan 21, 2024 21:09:05 GMT 1, It is the most visible to date. The founders talk about their love of George Condo. I love all the artists that make me a lot of money too!
It is the most visible to date. The founders talk about their love of George Condo. I love all the artists that make me a lot of money too!
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Jimini Cricket
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Jimini Cricket on Jan 21, 2024 21:14:25 GMT 1, I think given this is the first print by condo in 4 or 5 years, and theyโre large A+ images, means that theyโll be pre sold by a week from now to existing AA clients and friends. Itโll be the biggest release for them to date, in terms of visibility and demand. Javier Calleja releases were pretty epic when I spoke with them, so that's a very big call you're making.
I think given this is the first print by condo in 4 or 5 years, and theyโre large A+ images, means that theyโll be pre sold by a week from now to existing AA clients and friends. Itโll be the biggest release for them to date, in terms of visibility and demand. Javier Calleja releases were pretty epic when I spoke with them, so that's a very big call you're making.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Arty Garfunkle on Jan 21, 2024 21:21:40 GMT 1, 3 very strong images and a great release! Iโm close to breaking my no edition rules for these!
They also have a fabulous Ed Rusha print to follow.
Is 2024 the return of great editions?
3 very strong images and a great release! Iโm close to breaking my no edition rules for these!
They also have a fabulous Ed Rusha print to follow.
Is 2024 the return of great editions?
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Georgie Poppit
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Georgie Poppit on Jan 21, 2024 22:37:00 GMT 1, So many people have seen the images but wonโt share for some reason. Good to see well known flippers commenting on them.
So many people have seen the images but wonโt share for some reason. Good to see well known flippers commenting on them.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Wimbledon 1981 on Jan 21, 2024 22:50:10 GMT 1, I think when you see the images, the size, and the edition count - youโll agree itโs special. Iโve never bought a print before. For me, they far exceed the quality of the previous ones. Justifying the buzz. Again, when you compare to Jonas Wood Prints, or Rashid Johnson, at 6k these feel like an absolute gift at this price. Confident the floor will be higher but tbh I think living with the work will be the point and a lot of fun. Iโm excited. But not saying everyone else should feel obligated to be haha.
I think when you see the images, the size, and the edition count - youโll agree itโs special. Iโve never bought a print before. For me, they far exceed the quality of the previous ones. Justifying the buzz. Again, when you compare to Jonas Wood Prints, or Rashid Johnson, at 6k these feel like an absolute gift at this price. Confident the floor will be higher but tbh I think living with the work will be the point and a lot of fun. Iโm excited. But not saying everyone else should feel obligated to be haha.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Arty Garfunkle on Jan 21, 2024 23:35:04 GMT 1, are you comparing calleja and condo? ๐
are you comparing calleja and condo? ๐
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nobokov
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by nobokov on Jan 22, 2024 0:22:29 GMT 1, Just bought two. One to rock and one to stock. But uh....I have no idea what I just bought.
Just bought two. One to rock and one to stock. But uh....I have no idea what I just bought.
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Jimini Cricket
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Jimini Cricket on Jan 22, 2024 0:44:32 GMT 1, are you comparing calleja and condo? ๐ Meow.๐ฑ Shแดt, I didn't know your comprehension was ass.๐ As you were king. xx ๐
are you comparing calleja and condo? ๐ Meow.๐ฑ Shแดt, I didn't know your comprehension was ass.๐ As you were king. xx ๐
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Black Wolf
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Black Wolf on Jan 22, 2024 10:20:43 GMT 1, Just bought two. One to rock and one to stock. But uh....I have no idea what I just bought. I bought one to list on stock X, one to list on eBay, one to list on FairArt
Just bought two. One to rock and one to stock. But uh....I have no idea what I just bought. I bought one to list on stock X, one to list on eBay, one to list on FairArt
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kfroms
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by kfroms on Jan 22, 2024 11:13:58 GMT 1, Dear Jerry, Can you explain why so many people love the George Condo exhibition at the New Museum?
-- Aaron Holtz
Dear Aaron, Among living artists, George Condo may be the most embraced by the powers that be. The Times called his New Museum show "sensational." That was just the beginning. Collectors love Condoโs paintings and buy them by the hundreds. New ones go for upwards of $450,000, and everything he makes sells. A recent New Yorker profile mentioned that Condo lives in luxury, collects Louis XVI furniture, hangs out with Kanye West, has two Upper East Side townhouses, loves expensive wines, gambles huge amounts of money and has a chauffeur-driven limousine. Curators love Condo, too. Heโs one of the few painterly painters included in our usually painting-bereft biennials.
Iโm thrilled that the New Museum is having a success, and I admire the curators of the show, Laura Hoptman and Ralph Rugoff; however, to me, Condo is a zombie -- a very limited, ironic, art-about-art artist whose work sounds the same visually derivative, technically generic notes over and over again. He provides almost no internal or psychic depth, instead giving people a sense of being in on some art-world in-jokes about style, tradition, kitsch and appropriation.
The top floor of Condoโs show is the better of the two, because it blatantly imparts his deep content. More than 50 portraits hang here, floor to ceiling and wall to wall. Your eyes dart from one to another, checking out his repertoire of creepy creatures, loony goons, naked ladies and art-world knockoffs. Many of these pictures look like the sort of neo-surreal work that was typical in the East Village in the 1980s, or the cartoony paintings of Kenny Scharf. A few are good, like Spanish Head Composition and a number of earlier, denser small works. But mostly you donโt have to look at any one painting here for more than a few seconds. Thatโs all they demand.
People always say Condo is a "virtuoso painter." The second-floor display gives the lie to this claim. Condo is an enthusiastic confident drawer who paints in high-keyed funky color with flourish. But he is simply deft and dexterous, aping R. Crumb and Philip Guston without any of the gutsiness or exposed inner life of these artists. Mainly you get the same fiendish figures in various styles. Condo does have a feel for grotesque in human physiognomy. I often find myself at cocktail parties, fantasizing that the person Iโm talking to is some sort of Condo monster. Yet because Condoโs monsters turn into a cast of characters, they are defanged. Any idea of the grotesque is replaced by burlesque and shtick.
Condoโs is well-done work for a time still jittery about painting, weaned on idiotic ideas that itโs somehow suspect, that it can only be good if it makes jokes or comments about itself. This sort of deconstructionism has been done to death, and is so familiar and enfeebled that it can barely lift the gun to its own head. At his best, Condo is not much more than Koons-lite, a safe Schnabel, a more ingratiating Richard Prince.
But thereโs a wonderful surprise ending to this show. Downstairs from Condoโs show at the New Museum is the radically fabulous survey of Lynda Benglis -- whose work from 1969 to 1975 is so fecund, fresh, relevant and prescient that she saves the day, letting you see that she predicts numerous contemporary artists from Urs Fischer and Isa Genzken to Rachel Harrison and Franz West. Among the mounds, glow-in-the-dark wall protuberances, and Mardi Gras-like peacock headdresses, donโt miss the large bronze, curved, double-headed, and veined dildo nailed to the wall, titled Smile. I wore one (the smile, not the dildo) when I left the New Museum.
Dear Jerry, Can you explain why so many people love the George Condo exhibition at the New Museum?
-- Aaron Holtz
Dear Aaron, Among living artists, George Condo may be the most embraced by the powers that be. The Times called his New Museum show "sensational." That was just the beginning. Collectors love Condoโs paintings and buy them by the hundreds. New ones go for upwards of $450,000, and everything he makes sells. A recent New Yorker profile mentioned that Condo lives in luxury, collects Louis XVI furniture, hangs out with Kanye West, has two Upper East Side townhouses, loves expensive wines, gambles huge amounts of money and has a chauffeur-driven limousine. Curators love Condo, too. Heโs one of the few painterly painters included in our usually painting-bereft biennials.
Iโm thrilled that the New Museum is having a success, and I admire the curators of the show, Laura Hoptman and Ralph Rugoff; however, to me, Condo is a zombie -- a very limited, ironic, art-about-art artist whose work sounds the same visually derivative, technically generic notes over and over again. He provides almost no internal or psychic depth, instead giving people a sense of being in on some art-world in-jokes about style, tradition, kitsch and appropriation.
The top floor of Condoโs show is the better of the two, because it blatantly imparts his deep content. More than 50 portraits hang here, floor to ceiling and wall to wall. Your eyes dart from one to another, checking out his repertoire of creepy creatures, loony goons, naked ladies and art-world knockoffs. Many of these pictures look like the sort of neo-surreal work that was typical in the East Village in the 1980s, or the cartoony paintings of Kenny Scharf. A few are good, like Spanish Head Composition and a number of earlier, denser small works. But mostly you donโt have to look at any one painting here for more than a few seconds. Thatโs all they demand.
People always say Condo is a "virtuoso painter." The second-floor display gives the lie to this claim. Condo is an enthusiastic confident drawer who paints in high-keyed funky color with flourish. But he is simply deft and dexterous, aping R. Crumb and Philip Guston without any of the gutsiness or exposed inner life of these artists. Mainly you get the same fiendish figures in various styles. Condo does have a feel for grotesque in human physiognomy. I often find myself at cocktail parties, fantasizing that the person Iโm talking to is some sort of Condo monster. Yet because Condoโs monsters turn into a cast of characters, they are defanged. Any idea of the grotesque is replaced by burlesque and shtick.
Condoโs is well-done work for a time still jittery about painting, weaned on idiotic ideas that itโs somehow suspect, that it can only be good if it makes jokes or comments about itself. This sort of deconstructionism has been done to death, and is so familiar and enfeebled that it can barely lift the gun to its own head. At his best, Condo is not much more than Koons-lite, a safe Schnabel, a more ingratiating Richard Prince.
But thereโs a wonderful surprise ending to this show. Downstairs from Condoโs show at the New Museum is the radically fabulous survey of Lynda Benglis -- whose work from 1969 to 1975 is so fecund, fresh, relevant and prescient that she saves the day, letting you see that she predicts numerous contemporary artists from Urs Fischer and Isa Genzken to Rachel Harrison and Franz West. Among the mounds, glow-in-the-dark wall protuberances, and Mardi Gras-like peacock headdresses, donโt miss the large bronze, curved, double-headed, and veined dildo nailed to the wall, titled Smile. I wore one (the smile, not the dildo) when I left the New Museum.
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rinz
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by rinz on Jan 22, 2024 13:42:08 GMT 1, value aside, it's fun to again read a 3-page thread about a print. Feels like the good old days!
value aside, it's fun to again read a 3-page thread about a print. Feels like the good old days!
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blurp
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by blurp on Jan 22, 2024 14:20:12 GMT 1, Can someone please explain to an ignoramus like me why we are supposed to be throwing ourselves over this? I honestly don't get it and couldn't see it on the wall. I get who he is and who he has been associated with but this baffles me. I guess that's art.
Can someone please explain to an ignoramus like me why we are supposed to be throwing ourselves over this? I honestly don't get it and couldn't see it on the wall. I get who he is and who he has been associated with but this baffles me. I guess that's art.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by its all about me on Jan 22, 2024 14:21:19 GMT 1, People keep saying how great the image is but nobody is posting a pic.
Should I be suspicious?
People keep saying how great the image is but nobody is posting a pic.
Should I be suspicious?
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