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Pejac - Christies, by nobokov on Mar 5, 2024 20:45:16 GMT 1, Do you know what the primary price for the painting was?
Do you know what the primary price for the painting was? |
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Wanchope
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Pejac - Christies, by Wanchope on Mar 5, 2024 21:05:17 GMT 1, Nope not at all, just seems to be a great figure considering other styles but of this size have been primary ยฃ13-15k
Nope not at all, just seems to be a great figure considering other styles but of this size have been primary ยฃ13-15k
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Pejac - Christies, by Javier on Mar 6, 2024 8:00:08 GMT 1, Already 24k
It will be great to see how it endsโฆ
Already 24k It will be great to see how it endsโฆ |
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Pejac - Christies, by streetartger on Mar 6, 2024 9:16:16 GMT 1, Already 24k It will be great to see how it endsโฆ
Already 24k It will be great to see how it endsโฆ With Premium thats 38kโฌ! Wow... Lucky me: I own one of the Drains from Berlin. |
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Pejac - Christies, by Wanchope on Mar 6, 2024 9:20:26 GMT 1, Do you remember the cost at the time?
Do you remember the cost at the time?
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Pejac - Christies, by artlike on Mar 6, 2024 10:50:40 GMT 1, Come on guys. People trying to sell their Pejac's have not been able to. Think critically - or conspiratorially (for those BBC/MSM readers and watchers)
Come on guys. People trying to sell their Pejac's have not been able to. Think critically - or conspiratorially (for those BBC/MSM readers and watchers)
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Pejac - Christies, by streetartger on Mar 6, 2024 11:16:26 GMT 1, Do you remember the cost at the time? 
Do you remember the cost at the time? They were 15,000โฌ plus VAT |
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Pejac - Christies, by Wanchope on Mar 6, 2024 12:09:13 GMT 1, Thatโs a cracker!!
Thatโs a cracker!!
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Pejac - Christies, by SomeoneNew on Mar 6, 2024 15:35:56 GMT 1, Come on guys. People trying to sell their Pejac's have not been able to. Think critically - or conspiratorially (for those BBC/MSM readers and watchers)
Come on guys. People trying to sell their Pejac's have not been able to. Think critically - or conspiratorially (for those BBC/MSM readers and watchers) I think it has to be image specific - the piece on sale with Christieโs is definitely one of the better pieces Iโve seen listed in the last year or so! |
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Pejac - Christies, by artlike on Mar 6, 2024 15:40:23 GMT 1, Come on guys. People trying to sell their Pejac's have not been able to. Think critically - or conspiratorially (for those BBC/MSM readers and watchers) I think it has to be image specific - the piece on sale with Christieโs is definitely one of the better pieces Iโve seen listed in the last year or so!
Come on guys. People trying to sell their Pejac's have not been able to. Think critically - or conspiratorially (for those BBC/MSM readers and watchers) I think it has to be image specific - the piece on sale with Christieโs is definitely one of the better pieces Iโve seen listed in the last year or so! OK, that must be it. |
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nobokov
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Pejac - Christies, by nobokov on Mar 7, 2024 1:41:46 GMT 1, Unrelated to this thread, but you gotta love an unregulated art market where you can get pals to bid up your own consignments, then dupe others to buy at a higher primary floor after you tout recent auction sales.
Unrelated to this thread, but you gotta love an unregulated art market where you can get pals to bid up your own consignments, then dupe others to buy at a higher primary floor after you tout recent auction sales.
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artlike
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Pejac - Christies, by artlike on Mar 7, 2024 8:03:35 GMT 1, Unrelated to this thread, but you gotta love an unregulated art market where you can get pals to bid up your own consignments, then dupe others to buy at a higher primary floor after you tout recent auction sales.
Unrelated to this thread, but you gotta love an unregulated art market where you can get pals to bid up your own consignments, then dupe others to buy at a higher primary floor after you tout recent auction sales. Conspiracy!!!!! Censor him |
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Pejac - Christies, by topper on Mar 7, 2024 8:31:11 GMT 1, An orignal Pejac is sitting at 24k in a major auction house.
Doesn't seem outrageous, he's a hugely popular, internationally exhibiting artist.
Am i missing something?
An orignal Pejac is sitting at 24k in a major auction house.
Doesn't seem outrageous, he's a hugely popular, internationally exhibiting artist.
Am i missing something?
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Pejac - Christies, by orchid on Mar 7, 2024 9:03:28 GMT 1, There was a lot of market manipulation of pejac editions and originals in the earlier days by his management but happens elsewhere too.
There was a lot of market manipulation of pejac editions and originals in the earlier days by his management but happens elsewhere too.
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Pejac - Christies, by loui on Mar 7, 2024 11:58:54 GMT 1, There was a lot of market manipulation of pejac editions and originals in the earlier days by his management but happens elsewhere too.
Artists and their managers.. interdependence instead of autonomy.
There was a lot of market manipulation of pejac editions and originals in the earlier days by his management but happens elsewhere too. You gotta love the arts business Artists and their managers.. interdependence instead of autonomy. |
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Pejac - Christies, by artlike on Mar 7, 2024 14:53:29 GMT 1, Conspiracy!!!!! Censor him It cant be that hard to get the truth out in the open ๐ do you feel attacked?
Conspiracy!!!!! Censor him It cant be that hard to get the truth out in the open ๐ do you feel attacked? Where have you been in the last 3 years?? |
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Pejac - Christies, by Javier on Mar 14, 2024 12:55:04 GMT 1, 
Nobody ended this thread. Fees included
Nobody ended this thread. Fees included |
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Pejac - Christies, by nobokov on Mar 14, 2024 18:28:23 GMT 1, Nobody ended this thread. Fees included
Based on all the other mediocre results from that auction I just assume that there's a high probability of a manipulated result. Pejac is an art world nobody, and they expect us to believe that a real collector purchased this for 47,880 in a bad market? It's like when a kid edits his report card to show straight A pluses instead of something more realistic.
If this is real, since the buyer is likely a person who visits UAA, please post the painting on the "Your latest Art Purchase?" thread when you receive it.
Nobody ended this thread. Fees included
Based on all the other mediocre results from that auction I just assume that there's a high probability of a manipulated result. Pejac is an art world nobody, and they expect us to believe that a real collector purchased this for 47,880 in a bad market? It's like when a kid edits his report card to show straight A pluses instead of something more realistic.
If this is real, since the buyer is likely a person who visits UAA, please post the painting on the "Your latest Art Purchase?" thread when you receive it.
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Pejac - Christies, by Wanchope on Mar 14, 2024 19:11:17 GMT 1, Yep makes total sense, pejac doesnโt have any fans or a market and probably all of the NYC pieces between 20k and 80k that were sold were just false and manipulated too. Honestly what a load of rubbish you are spitting. Not everything in the art world is a conspiracy or suspicious.
Yep makes total sense, pejac doesnโt have any fans or a market and probably all of the NYC pieces between 20k and 80k that were sold were just false and manipulated too. Honestly what a load of rubbish you are spitting. Not everything in the art world is a conspiracy or suspicious.
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Pejac - Christies, by bsharp on Mar 14, 2024 19:49:27 GMT 1, It was likely sold directly by Pejac or the management. It also got a lot of publicity directly from Pejac which not a lot of artists do.
It probably sold for that amount but I donโt think it would achieve this if it was actually being sold by an individual collector (privately or via auction).
It was likely sold directly by Pejac or the management. It also got a lot of publicity directly from Pejac which not a lot of artists do.
It probably sold for that amount but I donโt think it would achieve this if it was actually being sold by an individual collector (privately or via auction).
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Pejac - Christies, by artlike on Mar 14, 2024 21:05:59 GMT 1, Yep makes total sense, pejac doesnโt have any fans or a market and probably all of the NYC pieces between 20k and 80k that were sold were just false and manipulated too. Honestly what a load of rubbish you are spitting. Not everything in the art world is a conspiracy or suspicious.
I heard Kate Middleton bought it
Yep makes total sense, pejac doesnโt have any fans or a market and probably all of the NYC pieces between 20k and 80k that were sold were just false and manipulated too. Honestly what a load of rubbish you are spitting. Not everything in the art world is a conspiracy or suspicious. I heard Kate Middleton bought it |
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Pejac - Christies, by LJCal on Mar 14, 2024 21:20:45 GMT 1, Unrelated to this thread, but you gotta love an unregulated art market where you can get pals to bid up your own consignments, then dupe others to buy at a higher primary floor after you tout recent auction sales.
Unrelated to this thread, but you gotta love an unregulated art market where you can get pals to bid up your own consignments, then dupe others to buy at a higher primary floor after you tout recent auction sales. The market may be unregulated in the sense it doesn't have a regulatory body, but it is still regulated and becoming more so, KYC is now a statutory requirement for all professional sellers, dealing in works over โฌ10k. What you're describing is fraud and there have been a number of sucessful prosecutions for shill bidding schemes, unfortunately it's been mainly feckless del boys on ebay, making a few extra grand. This goes on in the industry on a massive scale with certain artists, whilst the police and SFO do nothing. The auction houses (often making hundreds of thousands in fees) turn a blind eye to what is clearly very suspect bidding. |
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Pejac - Christies, by Fluffy Pillow on Mar 14, 2024 21:24:12 GMT 1, Nobody ended this thread. Fees included
Based on all the other mediocre results from that auction I just assume that there's a high probability of a manipulated result. Pejac is an art world nobody, and they expect us to believe that a real collector purchased this for 47,880 in a bad market? It's like when a kid edits his report card to show straight A pluses instead of something more realistic.
If this is real, since the buyer is likely a person who visits UAA, please post the painting on the "Your latest Art Purchase?" thread when you receive it.
Maybe youโre right but did this piece sell at an official auction for $60+k, yes or no?
Nobody ended this thread. Fees included
Based on all the other mediocre results from that auction I just assume that there's a high probability of a manipulated result. Pejac is an art world nobody, and they expect us to believe that a real collector purchased this for 47,880 in a bad market? It's like when a kid edits his report card to show straight A pluses instead of something more realistic.
If this is real, since the buyer is likely a person who visits UAA, please post the painting on the "Your latest Art Purchase?" thread when you receive it.
Maybe youโre right but did this piece sell at an official auction for $60+k, yes or no? |
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Pejac - Christies, by LJCal on Mar 14, 2024 21:25:17 GMT 1, On the Pejac no idea if this was an arms length sale. It's a strong piece so entirely possible it's a genuine sale; saying that the market is week and I suspect he probably has lots more inventory left from New York show so equally possible it's been bid up.
On the Pejac no idea if this was an arms length sale. It's a strong piece so entirely possible it's a genuine sale; saying that the market is week and I suspect he probably has lots more inventory left from New York show so equally possible it's been bid up.
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Pejac - Christies, by pilot on Mar 14, 2024 22:16:45 GMT 1, i like pejac's art very much and i have several prints myself. i'm not a conspiracy theorist either. but i've now seen more and more pieces that i've never seen on the open market before or only in pejac's possession that went straight from spain to the auction house ('snow angel' at artsy, 'h2o color edition' at christie's and now 'drain'). all the pieces went for very high prices. it just seems very systematic.
i like pejac's art very much and i have several prints myself. i'm not a conspiracy theorist either. but i've now seen more and more pieces that i've never seen on the open market before or only in pejac's possession that went straight from spain to the auction house ('snow angel' at artsy, 'h2o color edition' at christie's and now 'drain'). all the pieces went for very high prices. it just seems very systematic.
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Pejac - Christies, by loui on Mar 14, 2024 22:25:35 GMT 1, i like pejac's art very much and i have several prints myself. i'm not a conspiracy theorist either. but i've now seen more and more pieces that i've never seen on the open market before or only in pejac's possession that went straight from spain to the auction house ('snow angel' at artsy, 'h2o colour edition' at christie's and now 'drain'). all the pieces went for very high prices. it just seems very systematic.
i like pejac's art very much and i have several prints myself. i'm not a conspiracy theorist either. but i've now seen more and more pieces that i've never seen on the open market before or only in pejac's possession that went straight from spain to the auction house ('snow angel' at artsy, 'h2o colour edition' at christie's and now 'drain'). all the pieces went for very high prices. it just seems very systematic. Whoโs the manager behind Pejac? Maybe I should ask, is there a manager behind him? |
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Pejac - Christies, by nobokov on Mar 14, 2024 23:08:53 GMT 1,
Based on all the other mediocre results from that auction I just assume that there's a high probability of a manipulated result. Pejac is an art world nobody, and they expect us to believe that a real collector purchased this for 47,880 in a bad market? It's like when a kid edits his report card to show straight A pluses instead of something more realistic.
If this is real, since the buyer is likely a person who visits UAA, please post the painting on the "Your latest Art Purchase?" thread when you receive it.
Maybe youโre right but did this piece sell at an official auction for $60+k, yes or no?
Based on all the other mediocre results from that auction I just assume that there's a high probability of a manipulated result. Pejac is an art world nobody, and they expect us to believe that a real collector purchased this for 47,880 in a bad market? It's like when a kid edits his report card to show straight A pluses instead of something more realistic.
If this is real, since the buyer is likely a person who visits UAA, please post the painting on the "Your latest Art Purchase?" thread when you receive it.
Maybe youโre right but did this piece sell at an official auction for $60+k, yes or no? no. |
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Pejac - Christies, by nobokov on Mar 14, 2024 23:10:52 GMT 1, i like pejac's art very much and i have several prints myself. i'm not a conspiracy theorist either. but i've now seen more and more pieces that i've never seen on the open market before or only in pejac's possession that went straight from spain to the auction house ('snow angel' at artsy, 'h2o colour edition' at christie's and now 'drain'). all the pieces went for very high prices. it just seems very systematic. Whoโs the manager behind Pejac? Maybe I should ask, is there a manager behind him?
i like pejac's art very much and i have several prints myself. i'm not a conspiracy theorist either. but i've now seen more and more pieces that i've never seen on the open market before or only in pejac's possession that went straight from spain to the auction house ('snow angel' at artsy, 'h2o colour edition' at christie's and now 'drain'). all the pieces went for very high prices. it just seems very systematic. Whoโs the manager behind Pejac? Maybe I should ask, is there a manager behind him? Word on the street is that his name is Maximiliano Ruiz. |
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