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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by loui on Mar 18, 2024 21:45:01 GMT 1, INO wondering
.. yet original might be something else?
INO wondering .. yet original might be something else?
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by met on Mar 18, 2024 22:28:15 GMT 1, [...]
Thank you for the heads‑up.
Hornsey Rd, Finsbury Park, London N19 4HT [...]
Cheers for the helpful address. Much obliged.
Somewhere, there's a Perspex seller planning early retirement.
That made me chuckle. Thank you.
I love this piece! although I don't think this is a Ban ksy. The technique is different from what he usually does. The green in the character is painted on top of the black and Banksy would paint it behind the black and keep open spaces in the black layer to let the green through. He would first paint the black layer for reference and paint the colored bits, then repaint the black layer again for the end result. A good example of his technique is in this video: www.instagram.com/tv/CMAHrGPFV2V/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==But this is only my 2 cents ;-)
Some random points that come to mind:
1. Banksy's techniques have evolved, becoming increasingly multivarious and sophisticated.
I've previously referred to him as being a stencil artist, but would now consider that description misleading.
While the bulk of his work continues to be stencil‑based, many non‑stencil embellishing techniques have often been incorporated into his work, especially over the past decade โ such as freehand spraying with cans, hand‑spraying with spray bottles, and hand‑painting with brushes, rollers, even fingertips.
2. The techniques that Banksy opts for won't always be consistent. They are piece-dependent, chosen according to what will best suit each artwork.
In this instance, one could say it is just the black paint that truly represents the body of the character holding the pressure sprayer.
The green colours do not depict the woman herself (as would otherwise have been the case if flesh tones were included). They represent a partial failure, or at least a presumably-undesired consequence, of her intervention โ which has also resulted in her getting completely covered in paint.
Consequently, it makes sense here that the greens were added on top of the black base layer.
3. As with the floor routine of a professional gymnast, Banksy makes his work look relatively easy or simple. Deceptively so, in my view.
Even with the chosen palette, it isn't simply green and black. Three different colours of green were used: mint and sea green for the woman, and shamrock (mirroring Islington signage) for the replicated tree leaves:
Thank you for posting.
Those Instagram photos are interesting because they partially explain what was unclear to me on Sunday.
The second photo doesn't actually show the installation in its finished state.
Only the close‑up third photo looks to be of the completed piece. Water was applied in the interval, for added texture, shading and depth.
Spot the differences:
When viewing the work in person, I spent a while looking at the outline of the painted foliage.
My mistaken assumption was that the leaves were done, not just with a pressure sprayer, but also with a brush or roller at the end of an extension pole. This impression was due to the vertical lines in white. The cleanliness of those lines was inconsistent with the result that would be achieved by a green-paint-filled fire extinguisher or pressure sprayer alone.
I now realise those white lines were created by using water โ applied with a pressure sprayer to certain sections of the tree, and then allowed to drip down and dilute or wash away parts of the still‑wet green paint.
Compare and contrast the treetop cropped images of:
(a) Banksy's early, second Instagram photo on the left; versus
(b) my later photo (from a slightly different angle) on the right:
I don't dislike it aesthetically but don't understand the piece. The tree's obviously not dead, it's just winter. It will be full of bud soon and leaves in summer. The tree is being looked after. What am I missing?
Your comments and question are fair. And interesting too.
The BBC article* posted yesterday offers a few quotes by James Peak (with whom I'm on good terms), including the following:
"The message is clear," he said. "Nature's struggling and it is up to us to help it grow back."
His is a very valid perspective.
However, I would qualify it by adding that other credible interpretations also exist.
And in this respect, the message perhaps isn't quite so clear.
Nor can we definitely say there is but one single message.
__________
The artist's work appeals to me most when it avoids being overly prescriptive. When it remains open to different and even contradictory meanings.
Already referred to above is the fact that the character's actions have resulted, not only in the wall being covered in green paint, but herself as well.
There might thus be a side theme of self‑defeating behaviour here.
Who knows? Maybe even a self‑reference.
Coming back to the tree itself, which, as you say, is still very much alive (having simply been pollarded or topped, albeit quite aggressively, given the thickness of the cut branches), I would suggest it adds to the interpretative richness of Banksy's piece.
Fresh leaves will soon be sprouting from that tree, meaning the woman's intervention was, at least arguably, little more than a short‑term, superficial fix. An act that would soon become redundant.
And so, beyond any "Nature needs our help"‑style message that viewers might immediately attribute to the artwork, there is possibly a recognition of our complementary duties โ not just to hastily take action to address the urgent issues that need addressing, but to do so in a responsible and informed manner. To ensure our efforts aren't simply wasted. Or worse, counterproductive and harmful.
This could be viewed as Banksy's cautionary note, including to activists who lead with the best of intentions, but without always putting in the time to think things fully through.
What is it they say about the road to hell?
__________
Alternatively, Banksy could just be using clever placement to have a good laugh.
Wish I had thought of this myself, but it sadly never even occurred to me.
Cheers for the insight.
[...] Thank you for the heads‑up. Hornsey Rd, Finsbury Park, London N19 4HT [...] Cheers for the helpful address. Much obliged. Somewhere, there's a Perspex seller planning early retirement. That made me chuckle. Thank you. I love this piece! although I don't think this is a Ban ksy. The technique is different from what he usually does. The green in the character is painted on top of the black and Banksy would paint it behind the black and keep open spaces in the black layer to let the green through. He would first paint the black layer for reference and paint the colored bits, then repaint the black layer again for the end result. A good example of his technique is in this video: www.instagram.com/tv/CMAHrGPFV2V/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==But this is only my 2 cents ;-) Some random points that come to mind: 1. Ban ksy's techniques have evolved, becoming increasingly multivarious and sophisticated. I've previously referred to him as being a stencil artist, but would now consider that description misleading. While the bulk of his work continues to be stencil‑based, many non‑stencil embellishing techniques have often been incorporated into his work, especially over the past decade โ such as freehand spraying with cans, hand‑spraying with spray bottles, and hand‑painting with brushes, rollers, even fingertips. 2. The techniques that Ban ksy opts for won't always be consistent. They are piece-dependent, chosen according to what will best suit each artwork. In this instance, one could say it is just the black paint that truly represents the body of the character holding the pressure sprayer. The green colours do not depict the woman herself (as would otherwise have been the case if flesh tones were included). They represent a partial failure, or at least a presumably-undesired consequence, of her intervention โ which has also resulted in her getting completely covered in paint. Consequently, it makes sense here that the greens were added on top of the black base layer. 3. As with the floor routine of a professional gymnast, Ban ksy makes his work look relatively easy or simple. Deceptively so, in my view. Even with the chosen palette, it isn't simply green and black. Three different colours of green were used: mint and sea green for the woman, and shamrock (mirroring Islington signage) for the replicated tree leaves: Thank you for posting. Those Ins tagram photos are interesting because they partially explain what was unclear to me on Sunday. The second photo doesn't actually show the installation in its finished state. Only the close‑up third photo looks to be of the completed piece. Water was applied in the interval, for added texture, shading and depth. Spot the differences: When viewing the work in person, I spent a while looking at the outline of the painted foliage. My mistaken assumption was that the leaves were done, not just with a pressure sprayer, but also with a brush or roller at the end of an extension pole. This impression was due to the vertical lines in white. The cleanliness of those lines was inconsistent with the result that would be achieved by a green-paint-filled fire extinguisher or pressure sprayer alone. I now realise those white lines were created by using water โ applied with a pressure sprayer to certain sections of the tree, and then allowed to drip down and dilute or wash away parts of the still‑wet green paint. Compare and contrast the treetop cropped images of: (a) Ban ksy's early, second Ins tagram photo on the left; versus (b) my later photo (from a slightly different angle) on the right: I don't dislike it aesthetically but don't understand the piece. The tree's obviously not dead, it's just winter. It will be full of bud soon and leaves in summer. The tree is being looked after. What am I missing? Your comments and question are fair. And interesting too. The BBC article* posted yesterday offers a few quotes by James Peak (with whom I'm on good terms), including the following: "The message is clear," he said. "Nature's struggling and it is up to us to help it grow back."His is a very valid perspective. However, I would qualify it by adding that other credible interpretations also exist. And in this respect, the message perhaps isn't quite so clear. Nor can we definitely say there is but one single message. __________ The artist's work appeals to me most when it avoids being overly prescriptive. When it remains open to different and even contradictory meanings. Already referred to above is the fact that the character's actions have resulted, not only in the wall being covered in green paint, but herself as well. There might thus be a side theme of self‑defeating behaviour here. Who knows? Maybe even a self‑reference. Coming back to the tree itself, which, as you say, is still very much alive (having simply been pollarded or topped, albeit quite aggressively, given the thickness of the cut branches), I would suggest it adds to the interpretative richness of Ban ksy's piece. Fresh leaves will soon be sprouting from that tree, meaning the woman's intervention was, at least arguably, little more than a short‑term, superficial fix. An act that would soon become redundant. And so, beyond any "Nature needs our help"‑style message that viewers might immediately attribute to the artwork, there is possibly a recognition of our complementary duties โ not just to hastily take action to address the urgent issues that need addressing, but to do so in a responsible and informed manner. To ensure our efforts aren't simply wasted. Or worse, counterproductive and harmful. This could be viewed as Ban ksy's cautionary note, including to activists who lead with the best of intentions, but without always putting in the time to think things fully through. What is it they say about the road to hell? __________ Alternatively, Ban ksy could just be using clever placement to have a good laugh. Wish I had thought of this myself, but it sadly never even occurred to me. Cheers for the insight.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by 321- on Mar 18, 2024 22:47:00 GMT 1, Thank you met! Great thoughts plus highlighting the relevant bits of this thread.
Thank you met! Great thoughts plus highlighting the relevant bits of this thread.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by robo on Mar 18, 2024 23:01:15 GMT 1, Great piece. Great thread.
This is why weโre here.
Great piece. Great thread.
This is why weโre here.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by loui on Mar 18, 2024 23:01:31 GMT 1, [...] Thank you for the headsโup. Hornsey Rd, Finsbury Park, London N19 4HT [...] Cheers for the helpful address. Much obliged. Somewhere, there's a Perspex seller planning early retirement. That made me chuckle. Thank you. I love this piece! although I don't think this is a Ban ksy. The technique is different from what he usually does. The green in the character is painted on top of the black and Banksy would paint it behind the black and keep open spaces in the black layer to let the green through. He would first paint the black layer for reference and paint the colored bits, then repaint the black layer again for the end result. A good example of his technique is in this video: www.instagram.com/tv/CMAHrGPFV2V/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==But this is only my 2 cents ;-) Some random points that come to mind: 1. Ban ksy's techniques have evolved, becoming increasingly multivarious and sophisticated. I've previously referred to him as being a stencil artist, but would now consider that description misleading. While the bulk of his work continues to be stencilโbased, many nonโstencil embellishing techniques have often been incorporated into his work, especially over the past decade โ such as freehand spraying with cans, handโspraying with spray bottles, and handโpainting with brushes, rollers, even fingertips. 2. The techniques that Ban ksy opts for won't always be consistent. They are piece-dependent, chosen according to what will best suit each artwork. In this instance, one could say it is just the black paint that truly represents the body of the character holding the pressure sprayer. The green colours do not depict the woman herself (as would otherwise have been the case if flesh tones were included). They represent a partial failure, or at least a presumably-undesired consequence, of her intervention โ which has also resulted in her getting completely covered in paint. Consequently, it makes sense here that the greens were added on top of the black base layer. 3. As with the floor routine of a professional gymnast, Ban ksy makes his work look relatively easy or simple. Deceptively so, in my view. Even with the chosen palette, it isn't simply green and black. Three different colours of green were used: mint and sea green for the woman, and shamrock (mirroring Islington signage) for the replicated tree leaves: Thank you for posting. Those Ins tagram photos are interesting because they partially explain what was unclear to me on Sunday. The second photo doesn't actually show the installation in its finished state. Only the closeโup third photo looks to be of the completed piece. Water was applied in the interval, for added texture, shading and depth. Spot the differences: When viewing the work in person, I spent a while looking at the outline of the painted foliage. My mistaken assumption was that the leaves were done, not just with a pressure sprayer, but also with a brush or roller at the end of an extension pole. This impression was due to the vertical lines in white. The cleanliness of those lines was inconsistent with the result that would be achieved by a green-paint-filled fire extinguisher or pressure sprayer alone. I now realise those white lines were created by using water โ applied with a pressure sprayer to certain sections of the tree, and then allowed to drip down and dilute or wash away parts of the stillโwet green paint. Compare and contrast the treetop cropped images of: (a) Ban ksy's early, second Ins tagram photo on the left; versus (b) my later photo (from a slightly different angle) on the right: I don't dislike it aesthetically but don't understand the piece. The tree's obviously not dead, it's just winter. It will be full of bud soon and leaves in summer. The tree is being looked after. What am I missing? Your comments and question are fair. And interesting too. The BBC article* posted yesterday offers a few quotes by James Peak (with whom I'm on good terms), including the following: "The message is clear," he said. "Nature's struggling and it is up to us to help it grow back."His is a very valid perspective. However, I would qualify it by adding that other credible interpretations also exist. And in this respect, the message perhaps isn't quite so clear. Nor can we definitely say there is but one single message. __________ The artist's work appeals to me most when it avoids being overly prescriptive. When it remains open to different and even contradictory meanings. Already referred to above is the fact that the character's actions have resulted, not only in the wall being covered in green paint, but herself as well. There might thus be a side theme of selfโdefeating behaviour here. Who knows? Maybe even a selfโreference. Coming back to the tree itself, which, as you say, is still very much alive (having simply been pollarded or topped, albeit quite aggressively, given the thickness of the cut branches), I would suggest it adds to the interpretative richness of Ban ksy's piece. Fresh leaves will soon be sprouting from that tree, meaning the woman's intervention was, at least arguably, little more than a shortโterm, superficial fix. An act that would soon become redundant. And so, beyond any "Nature needs our help"โstyle message that viewers might immediately attribute to the artwork, there is possibly a recognition of our complementary duties โ not just to hastily take action to address the urgent issues that need addressing, but to do so in a responsible and informed manner. To ensure our efforts aren't simply wasted. Or worse, counterproductive and harmful. This could be viewed as Ban ksy's cautionary note, including to activists who lead with the best of intentions, but without always putting in the time to think things fully through. What is it they say about the road to hell? __________ Alternatively, Ban ksy could just be using clever placement to have a good laugh. Wish I had thought of this myself, but it sadly never even occurred to me. Cheers for the insight. Thank you met. Interesting analysis. What surprises me in that analyses is that though it seems hard to ignore, the similarity to the 2012 piece of 0331c is completely left out, while to me and if Iโm right also to others the thought behind it seems so interesting. Any thoughts about it?
streetartutopia.com/2024/03/02/street-art-by-0331c/
[...] Thank you for the headsโup. Hornsey Rd, Finsbury Park, London N19 4HT [...] Cheers for the helpful address. Much obliged. Somewhere, there's a Perspex seller planning early retirement. That made me chuckle. Thank you. I love this piece! although I don't think this is a Ban ksy. The technique is different from what he usually does. The green in the character is painted on top of the black and Banksy would paint it behind the black and keep open spaces in the black layer to let the green through. He would first paint the black layer for reference and paint the colored bits, then repaint the black layer again for the end result. A good example of his technique is in this video: www.instagram.com/tv/CMAHrGPFV2V/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==But this is only my 2 cents ;-) Some random points that come to mind: 1. Ban ksy's techniques have evolved, becoming increasingly multivarious and sophisticated. I've previously referred to him as being a stencil artist, but would now consider that description misleading. While the bulk of his work continues to be stencilโbased, many nonโstencil embellishing techniques have often been incorporated into his work, especially over the past decade โ such as freehand spraying with cans, handโspraying with spray bottles, and handโpainting with brushes, rollers, even fingertips. 2. The techniques that Ban ksy opts for won't always be consistent. They are piece-dependent, chosen according to what will best suit each artwork. In this instance, one could say it is just the black paint that truly represents the body of the character holding the pressure sprayer. The green colours do not depict the woman herself (as would otherwise have been the case if flesh tones were included). They represent a partial failure, or at least a presumably-undesired consequence, of her intervention โ which has also resulted in her getting completely covered in paint. Consequently, it makes sense here that the greens were added on top of the black base layer. 3. As with the floor routine of a professional gymnast, Ban ksy makes his work look relatively easy or simple. Deceptively so, in my view. Even with the chosen palette, it isn't simply green and black. Three different colours of green were used: mint and sea green for the woman, and shamrock (mirroring Islington signage) for the replicated tree leaves: Thank you for posting. Those Ins tagram photos are interesting because they partially explain what was unclear to me on Sunday. The second photo doesn't actually show the installation in its finished state. Only the closeโup third photo looks to be of the completed piece. Water was applied in the interval, for added texture, shading and depth. Spot the differences: When viewing the work in person, I spent a while looking at the outline of the painted foliage. My mistaken assumption was that the leaves were done, not just with a pressure sprayer, but also with a brush or roller at the end of an extension pole. This impression was due to the vertical lines in white. The cleanliness of those lines was inconsistent with the result that would be achieved by a green-paint-filled fire extinguisher or pressure sprayer alone. I now realise those white lines were created by using water โ applied with a pressure sprayer to certain sections of the tree, and then allowed to drip down and dilute or wash away parts of the stillโwet green paint. Compare and contrast the treetop cropped images of: (a) Ban ksy's early, second Ins tagram photo on the left; versus (b) my later photo (from a slightly different angle) on the right: I don't dislike it aesthetically but don't understand the piece. The tree's obviously not dead, it's just winter. It will be full of bud soon and leaves in summer. The tree is being looked after. What am I missing? Your comments and question are fair. And interesting too. The BBC article* posted yesterday offers a few quotes by James Peak (with whom I'm on good terms), including the following: "The message is clear," he said. "Nature's struggling and it is up to us to help it grow back."His is a very valid perspective. However, I would qualify it by adding that other credible interpretations also exist. And in this respect, the message perhaps isn't quite so clear. Nor can we definitely say there is but one single message. __________ The artist's work appeals to me most when it avoids being overly prescriptive. When it remains open to different and even contradictory meanings. Already referred to above is the fact that the character's actions have resulted, not only in the wall being covered in green paint, but herself as well. There might thus be a side theme of selfโdefeating behaviour here. Who knows? Maybe even a selfโreference. Coming back to the tree itself, which, as you say, is still very much alive (having simply been pollarded or topped, albeit quite aggressively, given the thickness of the cut branches), I would suggest it adds to the interpretative richness of Ban ksy's piece. Fresh leaves will soon be sprouting from that tree, meaning the woman's intervention was, at least arguably, little more than a shortโterm, superficial fix. An act that would soon become redundant. And so, beyond any "Nature needs our help"โstyle message that viewers might immediately attribute to the artwork, there is possibly a recognition of our complementary duties โ not just to hastily take action to address the urgent issues that need addressing, but to do so in a responsible and informed manner. To ensure our efforts aren't simply wasted. Or worse, counterproductive and harmful. This could be viewed as Ban ksy's cautionary note, including to activists who lead with the best of intentions, but without always putting in the time to think things fully through. What is it they say about the road to hell? __________ Alternatively, Ban ksy could just be using clever placement to have a good laugh. Wish I had thought of this myself, but it sadly never even occurred to me. Cheers for the insight. Thank you met. Interesting analysis. What surprises me in that analyses is that though it seems hard to ignore, the similarity to the 2012 piece of 0331c is completely left out, while to me and if Iโm right also to others the thought behind it seems so interesting. Any thoughts about it? streetartutopia.com/2024/03/02/street-art-by-0331c/
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by kjg on Mar 18, 2024 23:05:45 GMT 1, Great piece. Great thread. This is why weโre here. This. And to swap stickers.
Great piece. Great thread. This is why weโre here. This. And to swap stickers.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by lukas01 on Mar 18, 2024 23:11:14 GMT 1, Tomorrow morning Banksy will broadcast a video shot during his latest artistic effort. That poem, which imprints the wall and creates perfect rhymes for the observer, will be revealed to the attentive eye of enthusiasts from all over the world.๐ฃ๐ฃ๐ฃ
๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฝ ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ผ๐ผ๐ผ๐ผ ๐ป๐ป๐ป๐ป
Tomorrow morning Banksy will broadcast a video shot during his latest artistic effort. That poem, which imprints the wall and creates perfect rhymes for the observer, will be revealed to the attentive eye of enthusiasts from all over the world.๐ฃ๐ฃ๐ฃ
๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฝ ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ผ๐ผ๐ผ๐ผ ๐ป๐ป๐ป๐ป
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by lukas01 on Mar 18, 2024 23:20:43 GMT 1, ........ Wish I had thought of this myself, but it sadly never even occurred to me. Cheers for the insight. Thank you met. Interesting analysis. What surprises me in that analyses is that though it seems hard to ignore, the similarity to the 2012 piece of 0331c is completely left out, while to me and if Iโm right also to others the thought behind it seems so interesting. Any thoughts about it? streetartutopia.com/2024/03/02/street-art-by-0331c/ It seems that in the world, each of us has 7 people who look like him. Do you think there isn't anyone out there who has the same tastes and interests as you? Or that he accomplished what you will accomplish in a few months or more? We are all children of this Universe. For better or for worse it is like this.
*obviously this is my thought.
........ Wish I had thought of this myself, but it sadly never even occurred to me. Cheers for the insight. Thank you met. Interesting analysis. What surprises me in that analyses is that though it seems hard to ignore, the similarity to the 2012 piece of 0331c is completely left out, while to me and if Iโm right also to others the thought behind it seems so interesting. Any thoughts about it? streetartutopia.com/2024/03/02/street-art-by-0331c/It seems that in the world, each of us has 7 people who look like him. Do you think there isn't anyone out there who has the same tastes and interests as you? Or that he accomplished what you will accomplish in a few months or more? We are all children of this Universe. For better or for worse it is like this. *obviously this is my thought.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by loui on Mar 18, 2024 23:39:53 GMT 1, Thank you met. Interesting analysis. What surprises me in that analyses is that though it seems hard to ignore, the similarity to the 2012 piece of 0331c is completely left out, while to me and if Iโm right also to others the thought behind it seems so interesting. Any thoughts about it? streetartutopia.com/2024/03/02/street-art-by-0331c/It seems that in the world, each of us has 7 people who look like him. Do you think there isn't anyone out there who has the same tastes and interests as you? Or that he accomplished what you will accomplish in a few months or more? We are all children of this Universe. For better or for worse it is like this. *obviously this is my thought.
Iโm interested in Mets analysis and thoughts. It is of interest why he leaves the similarity out. You know Banksy once said of Blek that everything he did he found out Blek had done it before him. Now it seems thereโs more artists whoโve done it before him. This makes me wonder especially because it says on pestcontroloffice heโs struggling with the question who he really is. โPlease write existential crisis in the email headingโ. And it also says you can contact them if โyou're thinking of writing in because you have privileged access to a secure facility that needs vandalising - please doโ. No disrespect to B at all, lots of good things were done and awareness was raised but if youโre making an analysis then make a good one, not a subjective one.
Thank you met. Interesting analysis. What surprises me in that analyses is that though it seems hard to ignore, the similarity to the 2012 piece of 0331c is completely left out, while to me and if Iโm right also to others the thought behind it seems so interesting. Any thoughts about it? streetartutopia.com/2024/03/02/street-art-by-0331c/It seems that in the world, each of us has 7 people who look like him. Do you think there isn't anyone out there who has the same tastes and interests as you? Or that he accomplished what you will accomplish in a few months or more? We are all children of this Universe. For better or for worse it is like this. *obviously this is my thought. Iโm interested in Mets analysis and thoughts. It is of interest why he leaves the similarity out. You know Banksy once said of Blek that everything he did he found out Blek had done it before him. Now it seems thereโs more artists whoโve done it before him. This makes me wonder especially because it says on pestcontroloffice heโs struggling with the question who he really is. โPlease write existential crisis in the email headingโ. And it also says you can contact them if โyou're thinking of writing in because you have privileged access to a secure facility that needs vandalising - please doโ. No disrespect to B at all, lots of good things were done and awareness was raised but if youโre making an analysis then make a good one, not a subjective one.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by lukas01 on Mar 19, 2024 0:10:35 GMT 1, It seems that in the world, each of us has 7 people who look like him. Do you think there isn't anyone out there who has the same tastes and interests as you? Or that he accomplished what you will accomplish in a few months or more? We are all children of this Universe. For better or for worse it is like this. *obviously this is my thought. Iโm interested in Mets analysis and thoughts. It is of interest why he leaves the similarity out. You know Banksy once said of Blek that everything he did he found out Blek had done it before him. Now it seems thereโs more artists whoโve done it before him. This makes me wonder especially because it says on pestcontroloffice heโs struggling with the question who he really is. โPlease write existential crisis in the email headingโ. And it also says you can contact them if โyou're thinking of writing in because you have privileged access to a secure facility that needs vandalising - please doโ. No disrespect to B at all, lots of good things were done and awareness was raised but if youโre making an analysis then make a good one, not a subjective one. What Banksy did or said before, I learn for the first time from your words. Growing up, with experience, I think many of us would say 50% less than we did years before. We often speak out of instinct or perhaps even out of bravado. Then over the years, we understand more about the world that revolves around us, and many things are smoothed out or completely changed even in our way of seeing things. We are humanoids in deep analysis with ourselves. The complexity of the human race and its way of reasoning has no equal anywhere on the planet.
It seems that in the world, each of us has 7 people who look like him. Do you think there isn't anyone out there who has the same tastes and interests as you? Or that he accomplished what you will accomplish in a few months or more? We are all children of this Universe. For better or for worse it is like this. *obviously this is my thought. Iโm interested in Mets analysis and thoughts. It is of interest why he leaves the similarity out. You know Banksy once said of Blek that everything he did he found out Blek had done it before him. Now it seems thereโs more artists whoโve done it before him. This makes me wonder especially because it says on pestcontroloffice heโs struggling with the question who he really is. โPlease write existential crisis in the email headingโ. And it also says you can contact them if โyou're thinking of writing in because you have privileged access to a secure facility that needs vandalising - please doโ. No disrespect to B at all, lots of good things were done and awareness was raised but if youโre making an analysis then make a good one, not a subjective one. What Banksy did or said before, I learn for the first time from your words. Growing up, with experience, I think many of us would say 50% less than we did years before. We often speak out of instinct or perhaps even out of bravado. Then over the years, we understand more about the world that revolves around us, and many things are smoothed out or completely changed even in our way of seeing things. We are humanoids in deep analysis with ourselves. The complexity of the human race and its way of reasoning has no equal anywhere on the planet.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by michaeldee on Mar 19, 2024 4:19:29 GMT 1, Rauschenberg from 35 years ago...
Rauschenberg from 35 years ago...
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by reg on Mar 19, 2024 9:00:18 GMT 1, Happy to confirm it's still 100% intact as of now. Just passed by.
God only knows what the landlord is playing at - is there a shortage of perspex in north London or something?
Happy to confirm it's still 100% intact as of now. Just passed by.
God only knows what the landlord is playing at - is there a shortage of perspex in north London or something?
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by Newar on Mar 19, 2024 9:46:05 GMT 1, This new piece is not 'removable' great BBC story thanks !
This new piece is not 'removable' great BBC story thanks !
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by Dice on Mar 19, 2024 10:23:55 GMT 1, Met you are probably right about the third photo being the final version.
What a risk though. He finishes most of it, removes any scaffold or awnings or equipment, takes a photo from far away and then goes back in to respray. And all in broad daylight!
Met you are probably right about the third photo being the final version.
What a risk though. He finishes most of it, removes any scaffold or awnings or equipment, takes a photo from far away and then goes back in to respray. And all in broad daylight!
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by slevin on Mar 19, 2024 11:41:50 GMT 1, The second photo doesn't actually show the installation in its finished state. Only the closeโup third photo looks to be of the completed piece. Water was applied in the interval, for added texture, shading and depth. Spot the differences: Or maybe it just rained?
The second photo doesn't actually show the installation in its finished state. Only the closeโup third photo looks to be of the completed piece. Water was applied in the interval, for added texture, shading and depth. Spot the differences: Or maybe it just rained?
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by Happy Shopper on Mar 19, 2024 11:48:59 GMT 1, The second photo doesn't actually show the installation in its finished state. Only the closeโup third photo looks to be of the completed piece. Water was applied in the interval, for added texture, shading and depth. Spot the differences: Or maybe it just rained? Haha... That is probably more likely than Banksy returning to it. Nature gave the finishing touch itself
The second photo doesn't actually show the installation in its finished state. Only the closeโup third photo looks to be of the completed piece. Water was applied in the interval, for added texture, shading and depth. Spot the differences: Or maybe it just rained? Haha... That is probably more likely than Banksy returning to it. Nature gave the finishing touch itself
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by Devizes /\_/\ on Mar 19, 2024 13:24:48 GMT 1, Or maybe it just rained? Haha... That is probably more likely than Banksy returning to it. Nature gave the finishing touch itself To be fair, judging by the state of the damp in that wall, itโs just as likely that has caused it.
Or maybe it just rained? Haha... That is probably more likely than Banksy returning to it. Nature gave the finishing touch itself To be fair, judging by the state of the damp in that wall, itโs just as likely that has caused it.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by lukas01 on Mar 19, 2024 14:18:52 GMT 1, What if the spray paint is temporary? What do you think about it? That is, what if it rains and the spray paint washes off? It would be a fantastic and one of a kind effect! A temporary spray paint! ๐
What if the spray paint is temporary? What do you think about it? That is, what if it rains and the spray paint washes off? It would be a fantastic and one of a kind effect! A temporary spray paint! ๐
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by loui on Mar 19, 2024 14:48:11 GMT 1, Rauschenberg from 35 years ago...
Yet I think Banksy may or may not have seen a specific article about Street Art by 0331C on streetartutopia on the 2nd of march this year while Rauschenberg has defo not been reading it. Itโs just surprising Met never seems to be taken things like the artist borrowing ideas of others into account. And exactly that makes one wonder: why does he not mention it, since you all do not hesitate for a second to mention it isnt unusual in the artworld. So if it isnโt that bad, why not include it in the analysis? Because it is too obvious he isnโt borrowing them? It made me wonder since I saw this the other day: theartofokse.com/blogs/chatter-oks/banksy-ill-just-leave-this-here
We all know the painters of Banksy now arent the painters of the early Banksies, and itโs seems rather dumb Met speaks of banksies maturation as an artist. There is not one artist and Robin hasnโt been painting them for a while at all. And having said this, Met is rather capable of writing and I for one have read his analyses with pleasure. I am however less pleased with the undertone in this last analysis of his and that gives food for thought. Maybe it's time to give my support to artists with more integrity.
Rauschenberg from 35 years ago...
Yet I think Banksy may or may not have seen a specific article about Street Art by 0331C on streetartutopia on the 2nd of march this year while Rauschenberg has defo not been reading it. Itโs just surprising Met never seems to be taken things like the artist borrowing ideas of others into account. And exactly that makes one wonder: why does he not mention it, since you all do not hesitate for a second to mention it isnt unusual in the artworld. So if it isnโt that bad, why not include it in the analysis? Because it is too obvious he isnโt borrowing them? It made me wonder since I saw this the other day: theartofokse.com/blogs/chatter-oks/banksy-ill-just-leave-this-hereWe all know the painters of Banksy now arent the painters of the early Banksies, and itโs seems rather dumb Met speaks of banksies maturation as an artist. There is not one artist and Robin hasnโt been painting them for a while at all. And having said this, Met is rather capable of writing and I for one have read his analyses with pleasure. I am however less pleased with the undertone in this last analysis of his and that gives food for thought. Maybe it's time to give my support to artists with more integrity.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by loui on Mar 19, 2024 16:04:52 GMT 1, Rauschenberg from 35 years ago...
Yet I think Banksy may or may not have seen a specific article about Street Art by 0331C on streetartutopia on the 2nd of march this year while Rauschenberg has defo not been reading it. Itโs just surprising Met never seems to be taken things like the artist borrowing ideas of others into account. And exactly that makes one wonder: why does he not mention it, since you all do not hesitate for a second to mention it isnt unusual in the artworld. So if it isnโt that bad, why not include it in the analysis? Because it is too obvious he isnโt borrowing them? It made me wonder since I saw this the other day: theartofokse.com/blogs/chatter-oks/banksy-ill-just-leave-this-hereWe all know the painters of Banksy now arent the painters of the early Banksies, and itโs seems rather dumb Met speaks of banksies maturation as an artist. There is not one artist and Robin hasnโt been painting them for a while at all. And having said this, Met is rather capable of writing and I for one have read his analyses with pleasure. I am however less pleased with the undertone in this last analysis of his and that gives food for thought. Maybe it's time to give my support to artists with more integrity. It all makes me wonder what Mark H Stephens thinks of his involvement of all this ๐ค
Rauschenberg from 35 years ago...
Yet I think Banksy may or may not have seen a specific article about Street Art by 0331C on streetartutopia on the 2nd of march this year while Rauschenberg has defo not been reading it. Itโs just surprising Met never seems to be taken things like the artist borrowing ideas of others into account. And exactly that makes one wonder: why does he not mention it, since you all do not hesitate for a second to mention it isnt unusual in the artworld. So if it isnโt that bad, why not include it in the analysis? Because it is too obvious he isnโt borrowing them? It made me wonder since I saw this the other day: theartofokse.com/blogs/chatter-oks/banksy-ill-just-leave-this-hereWe all know the painters of Banksy now arent the painters of the early Banksies, and itโs seems rather dumb Met speaks of banksies maturation as an artist. There is not one artist and Robin hasnโt been painting them for a while at all. And having said this, Met is rather capable of writing and I for one have read his analyses with pleasure. I am however less pleased with the undertone in this last analysis of his and that gives food for thought. Maybe it's time to give my support to artists with more integrity. It all makes me wonder what Mark H Stephens thinks of his involvement of all this ๐ค
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by Pete the Post on Mar 19, 2024 16:28:28 GMT 1, Dude painting it makes me think of the predator. i guess once will kill nature we can paint it back on. Maybe.
Dude painting it makes me think of the predator. i guess once will kill nature we can paint it back on. Maybe.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by PC Baby on Mar 19, 2024 16:49:03 GMT 1, What if the spray paint is temporary? What do you think about it? That is, what if it rains and the spray paint washes off? It would be a fantastic and one of a kind effect! A temporary spray paint! ๐ Water-based spray paint - interesting twist! Let nature destroy it. ๐
Local weather forecast suggests rainfall from Friday.
What if the spray paint is temporary? What do you think about it? That is, what if it rains and the spray paint washes off? It would be a fantastic and one of a kind effect! A temporary spray paint! ๐ Water-based spray paint - interesting twist! Let nature destroy it. ๐ Local weather forecast suggests rainfall from Friday.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by mandem on Mar 19, 2024 17:10:50 GMT 1, So many interesting points.
The more Met posts, the more I'm convinced he is either B or someone very close to the artist. Unless just way more insightful than most.
Look forward to seeing a high-res image of the VIP print if Lance has managed to connect his car to his phone (what a world we live in eh!)
I'm in South London, so not allowed north of the river - nor have any desire to go to that badland - so thanks all for sharing your pictures.
So many interesting points.
The more Met posts, the more I'm convinced he is either B or someone very close to the artist. Unless just way more insightful than most.
Look forward to seeing a high-res image of the VIP print if Lance has managed to connect his car to his phone (what a world we live in eh!)
I'm in South London, so not allowed north of the river - nor have any desire to go to that badland - so thanks all for sharing your pictures.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by Dice on Mar 19, 2024 17:19:53 GMT 1, Big ugly fence up now
Big ugly fence up now
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by PC Baby on Mar 19, 2024 17:20:54 GMT 1, This, to me, looks like a man and could also represent Indigenous Peoples, whose lands and territories are being 'appropriated' without their consent, with devastating consequences for Climate Change - and the Greenwashing attached to it.
This, to me, looks like a man and could also represent Indigenous Peoples, whose lands and territories are being 'appropriated' without their consent, with devastating consequences for Climate Change - and the Greenwashing attached to it.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by nobokov on Mar 19, 2024 18:25:26 GMT 1,
Regrettably, I have to let go of this new Banksy acquisition. After getting it home, my wife and I realized that it doesn't really go with our couch but looks amazing in the flesh. Offers welcome. Please excuse the poor studio lighting and professionally staged picture. I'll post better ones when it's nighttime and I have my iphone 3 fully charged.
Payment by bank transfer or PP friends/family. For shipping only at buyer's cost.
Dimensions - 5500 by 3000 mm Unsigned Framed in museum glass, but can be unframed for shipping.
Regrettably, I have to let go of this new Banksy acquisition. After getting it home, my wife and I realized that it doesn't really go with our couch but looks amazing in the flesh. Offers welcome. Please excuse the poor studio lighting and professionally staged picture. I'll post better ones when it's nighttime and I have my iphone 3 fully charged.
Payment by bank transfer or PP friends/family. For shipping only at buyer's cost.
Dimensions - 5500 by 3000 mm Unsigned Framed in museum glass, but can be unframed for shipping.
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by Londown 01 on Mar 19, 2024 19:27:19 GMT 1, Much appreciated!
- do you know what house that is or the architect?
Much appreciated! - do you know what house that is or the architect?
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Banksy Tree Mural โข North London, by mojo on Mar 19, 2024 20:26:09 GMT 1, Great Cartoon by Ella Baron in The Guardian link
Great Cartoon by Ella Baron in The Guardian link
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