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WCP The West Country Prince, by sixftjellybaby on Nov 25, 2013 11:33:38 GMT 1, As I said you both make some really good points and I do not think this matter will ever be solved on here ,john myatt is probably one of the best examples was a forger now sells fakes for £20,000,even he says big collectors have them in there collection and to the untrained eye they pass then of as real .if im totally honest im a big fence sitter on this subject ,on one hand no ones getting hurt in the above situation but copyright is important or artist/ designers would not get paid for there work
There I hope this some's my views up. Im a total hypocrite with no real hard and fast views on the situation x
As I said you both make some really good points and I do not think this matter will ever be solved on here ,john myatt is probably one of the best examples was a forger now sells fakes for £20,000,even he says big collectors have them in there collection and to the untrained eye they pass then of as real .if im totally honest im a big fence sitter on this subject ,on one hand no ones getting hurt in the above situation but copyright is important or artist/ designers would not get paid for there work There I hope this some's my views up. Im a total hypocrite with no real hard and fast views on the situation x
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WCP The West Country Prince, by johnnyh on Nov 25, 2013 11:37:09 GMT 1, Yes your quite right Gentle it's all my fault that you buy and sell fakes.
It's my fault you lie about your work not that I care what you do. What's funny is that you pretend to be something else what's the word.......ah yes fake.
People are cheated by fakes. The artist for one. Whose work is produced poorly in comparison, the artist has the right to produce or not produce prints and these are printed without permission claiming to be the same quality but from all accounts they are not. So even the buyer receives an inferior product.
Yes your quite right Gentle it's all my fault that you buy and sell fakes.
It's my fault you lie about your work not that I care what you do. What's funny is that you pretend to be something else what's the word.......ah yes fake.
People are cheated by fakes. The artist for one. Whose work is produced poorly in comparison, the artist has the right to produce or not produce prints and these are printed without permission claiming to be the same quality but from all accounts they are not. So even the buyer receives an inferior product.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by sixftjellybaby on Nov 25, 2013 11:37:58 GMT 1, Be a scream if WCP turned out to be Bansky good point, buying one on ebay now ...not really
Be a scream if WCP turned out to be Bansky good point, buying one on ebay now ...not really
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 11:44:19 GMT 1, Be a scream if WCP turned out to be Bansky Yes it would!, but sadly or happily Banksy is not and has nothing whatsoever to do with WCP, fact (for coachy!) Can of worms. I have nothing as sold to pay bills etc.. Im currently working as a rent man but considering a change in career to become lesbian.
Be a scream if WCP turned out to be Bansky Yes it would!, but sadly or happily Banksy is not and has nothing whatsoever to do with WCP, fact (for coachy!) Can of worms. I have nothing as sold to pay bills etc.. Im currently working as a rent man but considering a change in career to become lesbian.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Gentle Mental on Nov 25, 2013 11:51:16 GMT 1, ok to summarize.
i'm all for open source art - if the artist is also openly comfortable with it (eg. banksy) if you can't do screenprint, it's ok to buy a fakey screenprint from fleabay or camden,cuz a screenprint really look nicer than an inkjet most times, if done well...( they look even better than POW's posters i would say...)
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i'm not for people who laugh at people who buy fakes.
i don't want to talk about occupations. and i'm not for comparing occupations (or paychecks for that matter)
ya. those are my 3 points.
god bless. good night everybody! thanks for coming! thanks! sorry no encore tonight! thanks! thank you! Good night!
ok to summarize.
i'm all for open source art - if the artist is also openly comfortable with it (eg. banksy) if you can't do screenprint, it's ok to buy a fakey screenprint from fleabay or camden,cuz a screenprint really look nicer than an inkjet most times, if done well...( they look even better than POW's posters i would say...)
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i'm not for people who laugh at people who buy fakes.
i don't want to talk about occupations. and i'm not for comparing occupations (or paychecks for that matter)
ya. those are my 3 points.
god bless. good night everybody! thanks for coming! thanks! sorry no encore tonight! thanks! thank you! Good night!
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WCP The West Country Prince, by sixftjellybaby on Nov 25, 2013 11:53:24 GMT 1, ok to summarize. i'm all for open source art - if the artist is also openly comfortable with it (eg. banksy) if you can't do screenprint, it's ok to buy a fakey screenprint from fleabay or camden,cuz a screenprint really look nicer than an inkjet most times, if done well...( they look even than POW's posters i would say...) + i'm not for people who laugh at people who buy fakes. i don't want to talk about occupations. and i'm not for comparing occupations (or paychecks for that matter) ya. those are my 3 points. god bless. good night everybody! thanks for coming! thanks! sorry no encore tonight! thanks! thank you! Good night! good night sleep tight x
ok to summarize. i'm all for open source art - if the artist is also openly comfortable with it (eg. banksy) if you can't do screenprint, it's ok to buy a fakey screenprint from fleabay or camden,cuz a screenprint really look nicer than an inkjet most times, if done well...( they look even than POW's posters i would say...) + i'm not for people who laugh at people who buy fakes. i don't want to talk about occupations. and i'm not for comparing occupations (or paychecks for that matter) ya. those are my 3 points. god bless. good night everybody! thanks for coming! thanks! sorry no encore tonight! thanks! thank you! Good night! good night sleep tight x
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 11:53:44 GMT 1, Nighty night.
Nighty night.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by johnnyh on Nov 25, 2013 11:55:30 GMT 1, Ha ha good to see you pointed out what's real and they don't know the Banksy's are fake so does not matter. As has been mentioned your welcome to them it's the production and promotion of them on here I do not like.
Gentle people do suffer with fakes the artist for one.as it's there work not WCP or yours. They spend time producing as they want it. By all accounts and I have never seen one but they are a much inferior quality to the originals so pretty sure that would pis shim off. People trading off his name and talent.
I do not care what you do but the fact that you pretend to be one thing when your something else you put fake occupations like Highly frameable copies others works like Yu min jun it's all fake your just not good at it like WCP
Ha ha good to see you pointed out what's real and they don't know the Banksy's are fake so does not matter. As has been mentioned your welcome to them it's the production and promotion of them on here I do not like.
Gentle people do suffer with fakes the artist for one.as it's there work not WCP or yours. They spend time producing as they want it. By all accounts and I have never seen one but they are a much inferior quality to the originals so pretty sure that would pis shim off. People trading off his name and talent.
I do not care what you do but the fact that you pretend to be one thing when your something else you put fake occupations like Highly frameable copies others works like Yu min jun it's all fake your just not good at it like WCP
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WCP The West Country Prince, by saint on Nov 25, 2013 11:58:26 GMT 1, Good night, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
I always thought it was weird my old mum saying that, what kids gonna go to sleep after you've just told him theres a load of bugs in your bed and they might bite you?
Might as well say 'good night, sleep tight, don't let anyone break in the window and nick anything or we'll take it out your allowance'.
Good night, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
I always thought it was weird my old mum saying that, what kids gonna go to sleep after you've just told him theres a load of bugs in your bed and they might bite you?
Might as well say 'good night, sleep tight, don't let anyone break in the window and nick anything or we'll take it out your allowance'.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 12:28:07 GMT 1, I think theres a major point being missed here, banksy purposely chose not to copyright his work, either he really just doesnt give flip and doesnt mind people doing whatever they want with his work or this was a decision made with thought involved where he would have weighed up the pros and cons of not copyrighting his images, the pros being he gets tens of millions of free marketing with him just sitting back and letting west country and all the t-shirt/printmakers/mug manufacturers/window sticker makers etc do it all for him. Come on think about it, this isnt art were tslking about, theres no art involved, its reproducing images and the more companys selling repro banksys in whatever shape or form the better for the banksy machine
I think theres a major point being missed here, banksy purposely chose not to copyright his work, either he really just doesnt give flip and doesnt mind people doing whatever they want with his work or this was a decision made with thought involved where he would have weighed up the pros and cons of not copyrighting his images, the pros being he gets tens of millions of free marketing with him just sitting back and letting west country and all the t-shirt/printmakers/mug manufacturers/window sticker makers etc do it all for him. Come on think about it, this isnt art were tslking about, theres no art involved, its reproducing images and the more companys selling repro banksys in whatever shape or form the better for the banksy machine
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WCP The West Country Prince, by motor on Nov 25, 2013 14:01:58 GMT 1, This And
Above all my main problem with these that this parasite s**t is being alowed to be promoted here. Why??? This should be the very last place! There are other sites for it for sure. I see this "copy producing" is more and more happening to other artists work as well. Again I can understand that it is impossible to stop it but why can it be promoted and advertised on this forum?
I don't shame you for buying this but I do shame you for promoting it here.
As for Banksy and Co not worrying about the copyright... I wouldn't be so sure. Since 2008 he/they trademarked his name across many goods and services so he/they definitely do care. Sure at the beginning of weseepee thing there was not much to go about but I feel the more money is being made from these the bigger the case becomes.
This And
Above all my main problem with these that this parasite s**t is being alowed to be promoted here. Why??? This should be the very last place! There are other sites for it for sure. I see this "copy producing" is more and more happening to other artists work as well. Again I can understand that it is impossible to stop it but why can it be promoted and advertised on this forum?
I don't shame you for buying this but I do shame you for promoting it here.
As for Banksy and Co not worrying about the copyright... I wouldn't be so sure. Since 2008 he/they trademarked his name across many goods and services so he/they definitely do care. Sure at the beginning of weseepee thing there was not much to go about but I feel the more money is being made from these the bigger the case becomes.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Happy Shopper on Nov 25, 2013 14:05:48 GMT 1, I think theres a major point being missed here, banksy purposely chose not to copyright his work, either he really just doesnt give flip and doesnt mind people doing whatever they want with his work or this was a decision made with thought involved If you take a look at what's written on his website (although I don't think you can at the moment as it's replaced with BOTI) he says he's happy for people to use his images... but not for profit.
I think theres a major point being missed here, banksy purposely chose not to copyright his work, either he really just doesnt give flip and doesnt mind people doing whatever they want with his work or this was a decision made with thought involved If you take a look at what's written on his website (although I don't think you can at the moment as it's replaced with BOTI) he says he's happy for people to use his images... but not for profit.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 14:15:51 GMT 1, Brilliant. I think the last WCP thread went to about 6 or 7 pages so we could match that.
I'm sure Mr West Country Prince would like to thank you all for giving him the publicity he wants and helping him to sell his prints.
Brilliant. I think the last WCP thread went to about 6 or 7 pages so we could match that.
I'm sure Mr West Country Prince would like to thank you all for giving him the publicity he wants and helping him to sell his prints.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Snakes on Nov 25, 2013 14:39:19 GMT 1, Brilliant. I think the last WCP thread went to about 6 or 7 pages so we could match that. I'm sure Mr West Country Prince would like to thank you all for giving him the publicity he wants and helping him to sell his prints. Free bump on me ^
Brilliant. I think the last WCP thread went to about 6 or 7 pages so we could match that. I'm sure Mr West Country Prince would like to thank you all for giving him the publicity he wants and helping him to sell his prints. Free bump on me ^
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 15:24:31 GMT 1, Theres a flower shop across the road from me and the owner loves the liita image, he was asking about whether he could use the image on his van to promote his shop, do you think this would bother banksy? Doubt it. It will most likely create a bit more business for the flower shop just because its such a famous image and will attract attention, is this wrong? Cant see how, more free marketing for banksy!
Theres a flower shop across the road from me and the owner loves the liita image, he was asking about whether he could use the image on his van to promote his shop, do you think this would bother banksy? Doubt it. It will most likely create a bit more business for the flower shop just because its such a famous image and will attract attention, is this wrong? Cant see how, more free marketing for banksy!
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WCP The West Country Prince, by saint on Nov 25, 2013 15:26:25 GMT 1, I'd imagine being the logo to a flower shop was exactly what Banksy was hoping would happen when he first did that image....
This place amazes me sometimes.
I'd imagine being the logo to a flower shop was exactly what Banksy was hoping would happen when he first did that image....
This place amazes me sometimes.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 15:36:30 GMT 1, I'd imagine being the logo to a flower shop was exactly what Banksy was hoping would happen when he first did that image.... This place amazes me sometimes. exactly;)
I'd imagine being the logo to a flower shop was exactly what Banksy was hoping would happen when he first did that image.... This place amazes me sometimes. exactly;)
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WCP The West Country Prince, by saint on Nov 25, 2013 15:39:40 GMT 1, You're a gallery FFS, think about what you're saying.
If one of your other artists had their work ripped off, the idea behind it removed, and was used without any consent or money going to the artist as a fucking logo on someones van, would they be happy?? Just because Banksy doesn't sue people who use his images DOESN'T MEAN THEY SHOULD.
to many people who dont think on this forum these days.
You're a gallery FFS, think about what you're saying.
If one of your other artists had their work ripped off, the idea behind it removed, and was used without any consent or money going to the artist as a fucking logo on someones van, would they be happy?? Just because Banksy doesn't sue people who use his images DOESN'T MEAN THEY SHOULD.
to many people who dont think on this forum these days.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by sixftjellybaby on Nov 25, 2013 15:45:30 GMT 1, Theres a flower shop across the road from me and the owner loves the liita image, he was asking about whether he could use the image on his van to promote his shop, do you think this would bother banksy? Doubt it. It will most likely create a bit more business for the flower shop just because its such a famous image and will attract attention, is this wrong? Cant see how, more free marketing for banksy! sounds like hes going to be out if business soon anyway if he thinks a man throwing flowers away will help promote his business !!
Theres a flower shop across the road from me and the owner loves the liita image, he was asking about whether he could use the image on his van to promote his shop, do you think this would bother banksy? Doubt it. It will most likely create a bit more business for the flower shop just because its such a famous image and will attract attention, is this wrong? Cant see how, more free marketing for banksy! sounds like hes going to be out if business soon anyway if he thinks a man throwing flowers away will help promote his business !!
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 15:49:12 GMT 1, Every artist wants their work to be seen by as many people as possible, thats the reason they exhibit/get it out there, i know for a fact that plenty of the artists i deal with would be chuffed if their image was being displayed and helping promote their work. Are they trying to pass it off as an original? No, are people really incapable if understanding how all these companys using banksys images actually helps promote his work to larger audience. I doubt banksys upset , seriously dry your eyes
Every artist wants their work to be seen by as many people as possible, thats the reason they exhibit/get it out there, i know for a fact that plenty of the artists i deal with would be chuffed if their image was being displayed and helping promote their work. Are they trying to pass it off as an original? No, are people really incapable if understanding how all these companys using banksys images actually helps promote his work to larger audience. I doubt banksys upset , seriously dry your eyes
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 15:49:22 GMT 1, Theres a flower shop across the road from me and the owner loves the liita image, he was asking about whether he could use the image on his van to promote his shop, do you think this would bother banksy? Doubt it. It will most likely create a bit more business for the flower shop just because its such a famous image and will attract attention, is this wrong? Cant see how, more free marketing for banksy! He could write 'Interflora' on there as well, and while hes at it might as well add 'Save The Children' and 'WWF', might get him some extra business?.
Now, you wouldnt signwrite your gallery window with 'Lazarides' or 'Andipa' etc as well as your own name innit?.
Theres a flower shop across the road from me and the owner loves the liita image, he was asking about whether he could use the image on his van to promote his shop, do you think this would bother banksy? Doubt it. It will most likely create a bit more business for the flower shop just because its such a famous image and will attract attention, is this wrong? Cant see how, more free marketing for banksy! He could write 'Interflora' on there as well, and while hes at it might as well add 'Save The Children' and 'WWF', might get him some extra business?. Now, you wouldnt signwrite your gallery window with 'Lazarides' or 'Andipa' etc as well as your own name innit?.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by sixftjellybaby on Nov 25, 2013 15:53:57 GMT 1, Every artist wants their work to be seen by as many people as possible, thats the reason they exhibit/get it out there, i know for a fact that plenty of the artists i deal with would be chuffed if their image was being displayed and helping promote their work. Are they trying to pass it off as an original? No, are people really incapable if understanding how all these companys using banksys images actually helps promote his work to larger audience. I doubt banksys upset , seriously dry your eyes send me the pdfs over and then i can knock em out on ebay then everyones happy !
Every artist wants their work to be seen by as many people as possible, thats the reason they exhibit/get it out there, i know for a fact that plenty of the artists i deal with would be chuffed if their image was being displayed and helping promote their work. Are they trying to pass it off as an original? No, are people really incapable if understanding how all these companys using banksys images actually helps promote his work to larger audience. I doubt banksys upset , seriously dry your eyes send me the pdfs over and then i can knock em out on ebay then everyones happy !
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WCP The West Country Prince, by saint on Nov 25, 2013 15:55:31 GMT 1, Every artist wants their work to be seen by as many people as possible, thats the reason they exhibit/get it out there, i know for a fact that plenty of the artists i deal with would be chuffed if their image was being displayed and helping promote their work. Are they trying to pass it off as an original? No, are people really incapable if understanding how all these companys using banksys images actually helps promote his work to larger audience. I doubt banksys upset , seriously dry your eyes You have artists who without being told about it would be happy to have their work ripped off and used to advertise someone else's business? How does it help those artists exactly? Will he have their name on it? or a link to their website/gallery? or just his own business name and address?
Again, if you don't know of Banksys work, and you see his image on someones van, how do you know its by Banksy? If you already know its by Banksy, then how is it promoting his work to a larger audience? Its not, its promoting his business by using someone elses work.
Dry my eyes? How about think before you speak?
Every artist wants their work to be seen by as many people as possible, thats the reason they exhibit/get it out there, i know for a fact that plenty of the artists i deal with would be chuffed if their image was being displayed and helping promote their work. Are they trying to pass it off as an original? No, are people really incapable if understanding how all these companys using banksys images actually helps promote his work to larger audience. I doubt banksys upset , seriously dry your eyes You have artists who without being told about it would be happy to have their work ripped off and used to advertise someone else's business? How does it help those artists exactly? Will he have their name on it? or a link to their website/gallery? or just his own business name and address? Again, if you don't know of Banksys work, and you see his image on someones van, how do you know its by Banksy? If you already know its by Banksy, then how is it promoting his work to a larger audience? Its not, its promoting his business by using someone elses work. Dry my eyes? How about think before you speak?
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 15:58:36 GMT 1, Theres a flower shop across the road from me and the owner loves the liita image, he was asking about whether he could use the image on his van to promote his shop, do you think this would bother banksy? Doubt it. It will most likely create a bit more business for the flower shop just because its such a famous image and will attract attention, is this wrong? Cant see how, more free marketing for banksy! He could write 'Interflora' on there as well, and while hes at it might as well add 'Save The Children' and 'WWF', might get him some extra business?. Now, you wouldnt signwrite your gallery window with 'Lazarides' or 'Andipa' etc as well as your own name innit?. i dont think hes claiming to be banksy;) he likes the image and it works well. I use the liita image on my banner at the top of the forum, im guessing banksy looses sleep over that as well
Theres a flower shop across the road from me and the owner loves the liita image, he was asking about whether he could use the image on his van to promote his shop, do you think this would bother banksy? Doubt it. It will most likely create a bit more business for the flower shop just because its such a famous image and will attract attention, is this wrong? Cant see how, more free marketing for banksy! He could write 'Interflora' on there as well, and while hes at it might as well add 'Save The Children' and 'WWF', might get him some extra business?. Now, you wouldnt signwrite your gallery window with 'Lazarides' or 'Andipa' etc as well as your own name innit?. i dont think hes claiming to be banksy;) he likes the image and it works well. I use the liita image on my banner at the top of the forum, im guessing banksy looses sleep over that as well
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 15:59:27 GMT 1, No, he says thats ok as he loves you.
Love you.
No, he says thats ok as he loves you.
Love you.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 16:06:09 GMT 1, Every artist wants their work to be seen by as many people as possible, thats the reason they exhibit/get it out there, i know for a fact that plenty of the artists i deal with would be chuffed if their image was being displayed and helping promote their work. Are they trying to pass it off as an original? No, are people really incapable if understanding how all these companys using banksys images actually helps promote his work to larger audience. I doubt banksys upset , seriously dry your eyes You have artists who without being told about it would be happy to have their work ripped off and used to advertise someone else's business? How does it help those artists exactly? Will he have their name on it? or a link to their website/gallery? or just his own business name and address? Again, if you don't know of Banksys work, and you see his image on someones van, how do you know its by Banksy? If you already know its by Banksy, then how is it promoting his work to a larger audience? Its not, its promoting his business by using someone elses work. Dry my eyes? How about think before you speak? i think thats the problem, not enough people actually think beyond the obvious, banksy has become famous by constantly putting his images in front of people so it gets drulled in thete and becomes part of the publics phyche, thats what he does relentlessly but now hes a big name he would obviously want that to stop. Doesnt anyone get it, all these companys are doing it for him, iys helping him, i dont yhink the floershop guy is trying to get a coa and pass it off as an original. F££k me someone tell me they understand that this does banksy no harm at all!!
Every artist wants their work to be seen by as many people as possible, thats the reason they exhibit/get it out there, i know for a fact that plenty of the artists i deal with would be chuffed if their image was being displayed and helping promote their work. Are they trying to pass it off as an original? No, are people really incapable if understanding how all these companys using banksys images actually helps promote his work to larger audience. I doubt banksys upset , seriously dry your eyes You have artists who without being told about it would be happy to have their work ripped off and used to advertise someone else's business? How does it help those artists exactly? Will he have their name on it? or a link to their website/gallery? or just his own business name and address? Again, if you don't know of Banksys work, and you see his image on someones van, how do you know its by Banksy? If you already know its by Banksy, then how is it promoting his work to a larger audience? Its not, its promoting his business by using someone elses work. Dry my eyes? How about think before you speak? i think thats the problem, not enough people actually think beyond the obvious, banksy has become famous by constantly putting his images in front of people so it gets drulled in thete and becomes part of the publics phyche, thats what he does relentlessly but now hes a big name he would obviously want that to stop. Doesnt anyone get it, all these companys are doing it for him, iys helping him, i dont yhink the floershop guy is trying to get a coa and pass it off as an original. F££k me someone tell me they understand that this does banksy no harm at all!!
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WCP The West Country Prince, by johnnyh on Nov 25, 2013 16:08:09 GMT 1, He could write 'Interflora' on there as well, and while hes at it might as well add 'Save The Children' and 'WWF', might get him some extra business?. Now, you wouldnt signwrite your gallery window with 'Lazarides' or 'Andipa' etc as well as your own name innit?. i dont think hes claiming to be banksy;) he likes the image and it works well. I use the liita image on my banner at the top of the forum, im guessing banksy looses sleep over that as well So how would you feel about. Matt whoever it was the credit card fella advertising. Banksy's using the name Castle Gallery NI.
He could write 'Interflora' on there as well, and while hes at it might as well add 'Save The Children' and 'WWF', might get him some extra business?. Now, you wouldnt signwrite your gallery window with 'Lazarides' or 'Andipa' etc as well as your own name innit?. i dont think hes claiming to be banksy;) he likes the image and it works well. I use the liita image on my banner at the top of the forum, im guessing banksy looses sleep over that as well So how would you feel about. Matt whoever it was the credit card fella advertising. Banksy's using the name Castle Gallery NI.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by saint on Nov 25, 2013 16:11:37 GMT 1, Not doing him any harm is different to it helping him, i've not once said it would do him harm, but it definitely won't help him.
People seeing the van won't say 'oh look, theres Fred's flower van, you know what? i want to buy a banksy print'.
Its a way of trying to get his business more recognised and create more revenue for himself, not to help banksy (you can sell it to yourself however you want), and if you can't see why I think thats wrong then we are not on the same wave length whatsoever.
Not doing him any harm is different to it helping him, i've not once said it would do him harm, but it definitely won't help him.
People seeing the van won't say 'oh look, theres Fred's flower van, you know what? i want to buy a banksy print'.
Its a way of trying to get his business more recognised and create more revenue for himself, not to help banksy (you can sell it to yourself however you want), and if you can't see why I think thats wrong then we are not on the same wave length whatsoever.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by johnnyh on Nov 25, 2013 16:12:26 GMT 1, You have artists who without being told about it would be happy to have their work ripped off and used to advertise someone else's business? How does it help those artists exactly? Will he have their name on it? or a link to their website/gallery? or just his own business name and address? Again, if you don't know of Banksys work, and you see his image on someones van, how do you know its by Banksy? If you already know its by Banksy, then how is it promoting his work to a larger audience? Its not, its promoting his business by using someone elses work. Dry my eyes? How about think before you speak? i think thats the problem, not enough people actually think beyond the obvious, banksy has become famous by constantly putting his images in front of people so it gets drulled in thete and becomes part of the publics phyche, thats what he does relentlessly but now hes a big name he would obviously want that to stop. Doesnt anyone get it, all these companys are doing it for him, iys helping him, i dont yhink the floershop guy is trying to get a coa and pass it off as an original. F££k me someone tell me they understand that this does banksy no harm at all!! Cannot believe you run a business and think like this. It's theft mate plain and simple. Same as the guy trying to rip you for a Banksy. Do you honestly think Banksy wants his image advertising some shit flower shop. And it does harm him yes
You have artists who without being told about it would be happy to have their work ripped off and used to advertise someone else's business? How does it help those artists exactly? Will he have their name on it? or a link to their website/gallery? or just his own business name and address? Again, if you don't know of Banksys work, and you see his image on someones van, how do you know its by Banksy? If you already know its by Banksy, then how is it promoting his work to a larger audience? Its not, its promoting his business by using someone elses work. Dry my eyes? How about think before you speak? i think thats the problem, not enough people actually think beyond the obvious, banksy has become famous by constantly putting his images in front of people so it gets drulled in thete and becomes part of the publics phyche, thats what he does relentlessly but now hes a big name he would obviously want that to stop. Doesnt anyone get it, all these companys are doing it for him, iys helping him, i dont yhink the floershop guy is trying to get a coa and pass it off as an original. F££k me someone tell me they understand that this does banksy no harm at all!! Cannot believe you run a business and think like this. It's theft mate plain and simple. Same as the guy trying to rip you for a Banksy. Do you honestly think Banksy wants his image advertising some shit flower shop. And it does harm him yes
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