nickodey
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banksy grenade original, by nickodey on Sept 6, 2008 9:35:27 GMT 1, hi, I ave been offered this original Banksy piece from 1999, it is a 3 colored stencil on painted board and is signed on the back but it s quite small approx 200mm X 200mm. I know its history and I think it is 1/3. I am not trying to sell or swap but would appreciate any views on the value and general oppinion of this piece as I have never been offered an original before! 
hi, I ave been offered this original Banksy piece from 1999, it is a 3 colored stencil on painted board and is signed on the back but it s quite small approx 200mm X 200mm. I know its history and I think it is 1/3. I am not trying to sell or swap but would appreciate any views on the value and general oppinion of this piece as I have never been offered an original before! |
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banksy grenade original, by Cocteau 101 on Sept 6, 2008 9:36:37 GMT 1, Make sure the provenance is watertight.
Make sure the provenance is watertight.
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banksy grenade original, by origo on Sept 6, 2008 9:40:14 GMT 1, What he said...
What he said...
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nickodey
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banksy grenade original, by nickodey on Sept 6, 2008 9:41:45 GMT 1, picture of back....
picture of back.... |
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banksy grenade original, by James Smith 77 on Sept 6, 2008 10:21:14 GMT 1,
After seeing the back definitely what the first two said. I would have sent pics to POW and Pest Control yesterday.
After seeing the back definitely what the first two said. I would have sent pics to POW and Pest Control yesterday.
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banksy grenade original, by snakes on Sept 6, 2008 11:32:30 GMT 1, Interesting - think you might be better off saving your pennies or buying a print by Hutch.
Interesting - think you might be better off saving your pennies or buying a print by Hutch.
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banksy grenade original, by worlddomination on Sept 6, 2008 11:48:33 GMT 1, This was on ebay about a year ago, i would definitely want a PC certificate before any money changes hands!
This was on ebay about a year ago, i would definitely want a PC certificate before any money changes hands!
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nickodey
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banksy grenade original, by nickodey on Sept 6, 2008 12:17:28 GMT 1, Interesting - think you might be better off saving your pennies or buying a print by Hutch.
Interesting - think you might be better off saving your pennies or buying a print by Hutch. do you have one for sale ? |
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banksy grenade original, by westley on Sept 6, 2008 14:36:55 GMT 1, i have only seen one of these before and the handle looked a lot smaller
i have only seen one of these before and the handle looked a lot smaller
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banksy grenade original, by mammal2 on Sept 6, 2008 14:44:21 GMT 1, Its also terrible.
Its also terrible.
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banksy grenade original, by leeoman on Sept 6, 2008 14:47:55 GMT 1, The andipa gallery has one on wood from 1999 see the link below looks quite diffrent if you ask me, you need to PC to have a look at this. www.andipamodern.com/WorksbyBANKSY.htm
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nickodey
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banksy grenade original, by nickodey on Sept 6, 2008 15:04:09 GMT 1, is this the same
is this the same |
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banksy grenade original, by alsbabar on Sept 6, 2008 15:07:41 GMT 1, see the red dot, it never did sell 
see the red dot, it never did sell |
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banksy grenade original, by leeoman on Sept 6, 2008 15:18:04 GMT 1, that's the same
that's the same
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banksy grenade original, by nacional on Sept 6, 2008 15:49:01 GMT 1, Bottom line should be is the image any good: this is crap, Fake's grenades beat this by a very long nose.....
Bottom line should be is the image any good: this is crap, Fake's grenades beat this by a very long nose.....
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banksy grenade original, by alsbabar on Sept 6, 2008 16:49:35 GMT 1, i agree nacional its not a very good image and Fakes is definitely a better piece
i agree nacional its not a very good image and Fakes is definitely a better piece
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banksy grenade original, by hitme on Sept 6, 2008 17:30:50 GMT 1, this piece is definitely fake. it should be the same stencil if it was legit.
notice how the clip on the grenade is not attached to the stencil (left belt hook and right clip arm).
that grenade should have already exploded!
this piece is definitely fake. it should be the same stencil if it was legit.
notice how the clip on the grenade is not attached to the stencil (left belt hook and right clip arm).
that grenade should have already exploded!
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banksy grenade original, by timba82 on Sept 6, 2008 17:38:41 GMT 1, i hate to break the bad news to you my friend but personally i dont think the one you have been offered is authentic.....
look at the hook (top left) - there is no gap between the hook and the grenade, yet on yours there is. the handle looks gammy as hell
i hate to break the bad news to you my friend but personally i dont think the one you have been offered is authentic.....
look at the hook (top left) - there is no gap between the hook and the grenade, yet on yours there is. the handle looks gammy as hell
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banksy grenade original, by nickodey on Sept 6, 2008 17:58:04 GMT 1, OK, Enough said, thanks everyone! the only thing to do is send all details to PC on Monday and wait and see..................................
OK, Enough said, thanks everyone! the only thing to do is send all details to PC on Monday and wait and see..................................
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banksy grenade original, by thesewalls on Sept 7, 2008 7:54:31 GMT 1, he's actually considering it!!!
he's actually considering it!!!
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banksy grenade original, by dicy700 on Sept 7, 2008 16:19:46 GMT 1, its amazing how people on here seem to think they are such experts!
its amazing how people on here seem to think they are such experts!
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banksy grenade original, by Photoxtc on Sept 7, 2008 16:33:05 GMT 1, its amazing how people on here seem to think they are such experts!
I'm not a Banksy expert by a long shot, but you have to admit that when comparing the two pieces they look nothing alike and that signature looks pretty fucked up as well...
The way I see is that most of the people on here are trying to help so someone doesn't get screwed!!! and if it wasn't for these people giving their opinions and advice on where to get this authenticated then he may very well be getting ripped off for this this seemingly fake piece... 
its amazing how people on here seem to think they are such experts! I'm not a Banksy expert by a long shot, but you have to admit that when comparing the two pieces they look nothing alike and that signature looks pretty fucked up as well... The way I see is that most of the people on here are trying to help so someone doesn't get screwed!!! and if it wasn't for these people giving their opinions and advice on where to get this authenticated then he may very well be getting ripped off for this this seemingly fake piece... |
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banksy grenade original, by dicy700 on Sept 7, 2008 17:40:58 GMT 1, ok, thats fair, but just because the grenade from andipa is different, why does that make the other fake? the andipa one is '99 and the other is '98, also, why is the signature fucked up, what have you got it to compare it too?
ok, thats fair, but just because the grenade from andipa is different, why does that make the other fake? the andipa one is '99 and the other is '98, also, why is the signature fucked up, what have you got it to compare it too?
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banksy grenade original, by Zippy on Sept 7, 2008 17:52:11 GMT 1, giving someone the advice to check it out with Pest Control is the best anyoen can do.
leave it to the experts to comment.
What Dicy says is quite right. too many experts on here looking at the signature and comparing it to the banksy print from under the bed.
This is a much older piece and the dates sound about right.
Instead of saying 'its an obvious fake' all we can do is point him in the right direction for authentification.
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giving someone the advice to check it out with Pest Control is the best anyoen can do.
leave it to the experts to comment.
What Dicy says is quite right. too many experts on here looking at the signature and comparing it to the banksy print from under the bed.
This is a much older piece and the dates sound about right.
Instead of saying 'its an obvious fake' all we can do is point him in the right direction for authentification.
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banksy grenade original, by orangematt on Sept 7, 2008 18:21:00 GMT 1, If the source of this piece is from where i think its from then i am pretty much 100% sure its a genuine piece .. a small stencil like this couldve been recut any number of times cos it would only take half an hour ish ! that would be my assumption on why the two pieces are different ... and the signature evolves as do the skills !!!
Naturally if anyones goin to spend any amount of money then get a PC certificate anyway just to remove any doubt ... that goes without saying.
The interest in this would be not so much for the quality of the image but for its part in history ... an early example of Mr B's .. who wouldnt want that !!!
Value would be a much harder thing to pin point - with PC certification ... i dunno 15k plus .. ( judging on prices of signed prints !?) what do you guys reckon .. assuming its genuine ?
If the source of this piece is from where i think its from then i am pretty much 100% sure its a genuine piece .. a small stencil like this couldve been recut any number of times cos it would only take half an hour ish ! that would be my assumption on why the two pieces are different ... and the signature evolves as do the skills !!!
Naturally if anyones goin to spend any amount of money then get a PC certificate anyway just to remove any doubt ... that goes without saying.
The interest in this would be not so much for the quality of the image but for its part in history ... an early example of Mr B's .. who wouldnt want that !!!
Value would be a much harder thing to pin point - with PC certification ... i dunno 15k plus .. ( judging on prices of signed prints !?) what do you guys reckon .. assuming its genuine ?
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banksy grenade original, by mammal2 on Sept 7, 2008 19:14:25 GMT 1, I think this is legit! oi oi
I think this is legit! oi oi
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banksy grenade original, by bobbyt23 on Sept 7, 2008 19:19:16 GMT 1, Whether it's real or not it's a pretty rubbish image. Dont know how much you are being asked for it but I would save my pennies and buy something else if I had the choice.
Having said that Horses for Courses. If you like it and it's real knock yourself out.
Whether it's real or not it's a pretty rubbish image. Dont know how much you are being asked for it but I would save my pennies and buy something else if I had the choice.
Having said that Horses for Courses. If you like it and it's real knock yourself out.
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banksy grenade original, by motor on Sept 7, 2008 19:25:53 GMT 1, Whether it's real or not it's a pretty rubbish image. Dont know how much you are being asked for it but I would save my pennies and buy something else if I had the choice. Having said that Horses for Courses. If you like it and it's real knock yourself out.
Totally agree with Bobby here.
Each artist has stronger and weaker pieces and this is definitely not the strongest one by Mr B 
Whether it's real or not it's a pretty rubbish image. Dont know how much you are being asked for it but I would save my pennies and buy something else if I had the choice. Having said that Horses for Courses. If you like it and it's real knock yourself out. Totally agree with Bobby here. Each artist has stronger and weaker pieces and this is definitely not the strongest one by Mr B |
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banksy grenade original, by mammal2 on Sept 7, 2008 19:26:48 GMT 1, Its shit! But everyone had to start somewhere.
Its shit! But everyone had to start somewhere.
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banksy grenade original, by Zippy on Sept 7, 2008 19:30:04 GMT 1, I'd love to have it. Its early Banksy and part of his history.
Its not his strongest image but on seeing one at Andipa, i'd still love it.
I'd love to have it. Its early Banksy and part of his history.
Its not his strongest image but on seeing one at Andipa, i'd still love it.
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