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banksy police car, by graeme501 on Mar 7, 2008 22:21:32 GMT 1, why did banksy bother set up pest control ? we're miles better
why did banksy bother set up pest control ? we're miles better
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banksy police car, by alsbabar on Mar 7, 2008 22:23:04 GMT 1,
a banksy expert
a banksy expert
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banksy police car, by icky on Mar 7, 2008 22:29:54 GMT 1, icky, do you fancy me? have i rejected your advances? because you seem to have a lot of anger going through your veins towards me!! Would a free brown Dirtyfunker 12" pacify you?
Mostly I find you boring, but in this case I was really upset. You write things as if you are sure and an authority on the subject and when proven wrong you just act as if your surprised that people may actually believe you. Did you make Babyjane an offer for her fake Banksy? Then I would understand why you write these things
If you got a Dirty Funker 12" Radar Rat cover hand finished by Banksy i'l take that.
icky, do you fancy me? have i rejected your advances? because you seem to have a lot of anger going through your veins towards me!! Would a free brown Dirtyfunker 12" pacify you? Mostly I find you boring, but in this case I was really upset. You write things as if you are sure and an authority on the subject and when proven wrong you just act as if your surprised that people may actually believe you. Did you make Babyjane an offer for her fake Banksy? Then I would understand why you write these things If you got a Dirty Funker 12" Radar Rat cover hand finished by Banksy i'l take that.
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banksy police car, by graeme501 on Mar 7, 2008 22:33:36 GMT 1, ha !
ha !
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banksy police car, by mammal2 on Mar 7, 2008 22:57:03 GMT 1, This is a Banksy I am sure. Do not sell to any loser that tries and pulls the wool over your eyes via pm. You CAN get it auth at Laz! They are setting up a better system for this and they will do it, but dont expect a quick turnaround. Good luck and a great piece. Brilliant! Banksy did many many cardboard works and I am sure from the pics that this is one. Break the frame very carefully and get it in a bank vault asap! oi oi
This is a Banksy I am sure. Do not sell to any loser that tries and pulls the wool over your eyes via pm. You CAN get it auth at Laz! They are setting up a better system for this and they will do it, but dont expect a quick turnaround. Good luck and a great piece. Brilliant! Banksy did many many cardboard works and I am sure from the pics that this is one. Break the frame very carefully and get it in a bank vault asap! oi oi
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banksy police car, by Rude Copper on Mar 7, 2008 23:32:46 GMT 1, a banksy expert
there's no such thing, you arse
a banksy expert there's no such thing, you arse
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banksy police car, by RBK on Mar 8, 2008 0:23:45 GMT 1, Have a professional get the work out of the frame.
Have a professional get the work out of the frame.
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banksy police car, by gtf on Mar 8, 2008 0:28:21 GMT 1, This is a Banksy I am sure. Do not sell to any loser that tries and pulls the wool over your eyes via pm. You CAN get it auth at Laz! They are setting up a better system for this and they will do it, but dont expect a quick turnaround. Good luck and a great piece. Brilliant! Banksy did many many cardboard works and I am sure from the pics that this is one. Break the frame very carefully and get it in a bank vault asap! oi oi
Get a framer to break the frame, don't try it yourself. It is not worth the risk! Make sure it is safely stored once it is out of the frame.
As advised above, get it authenticated by Laz or whoever they tell you is now authenticating Banksy originals.
And finally, come back on here and tell us the outcome!
This is a Banksy I am sure. Do not sell to any loser that tries and pulls the wool over your eyes via pm. You CAN get it auth at Laz! They are setting up a better system for this and they will do it, but dont expect a quick turnaround. Good luck and a great piece. Brilliant! Banksy did many many cardboard works and I am sure from the pics that this is one. Break the frame very carefully and get it in a bank vault asap! oi oi Get a framer to break the frame, don't try it yourself. It is not worth the risk! Make sure it is safely stored once it is out of the frame. As advised above, get it authenticated by Laz or whoever they tell you is now authenticating Banksy originals. And finally, come back on here and tell us the outcome!
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banksy police car, by hungrig on Mar 8, 2008 1:13:04 GMT 1, icky, do you fancy me? have i rejected your advances? because you seem to have a lot of anger going through your veins towards me!! Would a free brown Dirtyfunker 12" pacify you? Mostly I find you boring, but in this case I was really upset. You write things as if you are sure and an authority on the subject and when proven wrong you just act as if your surprised that people may actually believe you. Did you make Babyjane an offer for her fake Banksy? Then I would understand why you write these things If you got a Dirty Funker 12" Radar Rat cover hand finished by Banksy i'l take that.
Good work, HankPank.
The scenario has already been repeated a few times on this forum:
Part 1: Inexperienced and perhaps naive person appears on stage with a potentially very valuable piece.
Part 2: Numerous posts by one or more forum members (or the same member with different user names). These posts are along the lines of "no gallery will authenticate it", "without provenance, it's worthless", "you see, a genuine piece would have been signed", "this image was only done on canvas", "sorry, it's not a real Banksy[/color][/i]", etc., etc.
Part 3: Owner of the piece gets a personal message from one of the forum members who was "just trying to help out" (but perhaps under a different user name) in Part 2 above. The message goes something like "Too bad it's not genuine. Damn shame that it's worth less than the frame. I really like the image though; that's what's important to me. I'm not too bothered it's a fake. ยฃ200 for it?".
Part 4: Owner parts with piece. Happy ending for everyone. Well, at least for the buyer.
icky, do you fancy me? have i rejected your advances? because you seem to have a lot of anger going through your veins towards me!! Would a free brown Dirtyfunker 12" pacify you? Mostly I find you boring, but in this case I was really upset. You write things as if you are sure and an authority on the subject and when proven wrong you just act as if your surprised that people may actually believe you. Did you make Babyjane an offer for her fake Banksy? Then I would understand why you write these things If you got a Dirty Funker 12" Radar Rat cover hand finished by Banksy i'l take that. Good work, HankPank. The scenario has already been repeated a few times on this forum: Part 1: Inexperienced and perhaps naive person appears on stage with a potentially very valuable piece. Part 2: Numerous posts by one or more forum members (or the same member with different user names). These posts are along the lines of " no gallery will authenticate it", " without provenance, it's worthless", " you see, a genuine piece would have been signed", " this image was only done on canvas", " sorry, it's not a real Banksy[/color][/i]", etc., etc. Part 3: Owner of the piece gets a personal message from one of the forum members who was "just trying to help out" (but perhaps under a different user name) in Part 2 above. The message goes something like " Too bad it's not genuine. Damn shame that it's worth less than the frame. I really like the image though; that's what's important to me. I'm not too bothered it's a fake. ยฃ200 for it?". Part 4: Owner parts with piece. Happy ending for everyone. Well, at least for the buyer.
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banksy police car, by hunter on Mar 8, 2008 10:46:41 GMT 1, If that is true its a new low point for this forum
If that is true its a new low point for this forum
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banksy police car, by foundation on Mar 8, 2008 11:06:36 GMT 1, If that is true its a new low point for this forum dont you mean another new low point for this forum? yesterdays incident discussion was a low point for me for several reasons.
If that is true its a new low point for this forum dont you mean another new low point for this forum? yesterdays incident discussion was a low point for me for several reasons.
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banksy police car, by thinkbank on Mar 8, 2008 12:27:21 GMT 1, sad, sad, sad. it appears that this forum has nothing to do with the love of art.
but everything to do with the love of money....
thankfully there are a few decent, honest people on here and you never have to meet the idiots in real life.....
sad, sad, sad. it appears that this forum has nothing to do with the love of art.
but everything to do with the love of money....
thankfully there are a few decent, honest people on here and you never have to meet the idiots in real life.....
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banksy police car, by graeme501 on Mar 8, 2008 12:40:52 GMT 1, i wouldnt worry, i pm'd her pretty much straight away telling her not to sell to any1 and to take it to LAZ to get it authenticated, as it could be worth ยฃ10,000's
i wouldnt worry, i pm'd her pretty much straight away telling her not to sell to any1 and to take it to LAZ to get it authenticated, as it could be worth ยฃ10,000's
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banksy police car, by Coach on Mar 8, 2008 13:16:23 GMT 1, sad, sad, sad. it appears that this forum has nothing to do with the love of art. but everything to do with the love of money.... thankfully there are a few decent, honest people on here and you never have to meet the idiots in real life.....
i still think most people on here are here because of a passion for art. i hope i'm right.
sad, sad, sad. it appears that this forum has nothing to do with the love of art. but everything to do with the love of money.... thankfully there are a few decent, honest people on here and you never have to meet the idiots in real life..... i still think most people on here are here because of a passion for art. i hope i'm right.
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banksy police car, by alsbabar on Mar 8, 2008 13:16:59 GMT 1, let me make a few things clear to you people who are throwing their toys out of their prams.
1. I never said I was a Banksy Expert - I would defy anyone to prove at any point where I made such a sweeping statement
2. The opinion about this piece was not mine - it was somebody elses - and in time, this PERSON, will be proven to be wrong or right - so till then, lay off the gang bullying mentality
3. I have only offered Babyjane assistance - I have zero interest in purchasing this piece and at no point did BabyJane intimate that she wanted to sell to me or to anyone else.
I think a lot of you are hysterical drama queens, with nothing better to do then gang up on people. I have seen how you treated that poor kid Cartrain and add how, when you dont get the print/piece you want you get all nicely a chummy, when you dont, you turn into viscious turncoats, you people are a joke, who I never have and never will take seriously. I am just thankful that I can afford to buy the art direct from source, without having to resort to dealing with some of you muppets (graeme the flipper, Icky, Mammal, rudecopper, Ronhill to name a few).
Have a nice weekend
let me make a few things clear to you people who are throwing their toys out of their prams.
1. I never said I was a Banksy Expert - I would defy anyone to prove at any point where I made such a sweeping statement
2. The opinion about this piece was not mine - it was somebody elses - and in time, this PERSON, will be proven to be wrong or right - so till then, lay off the gang bullying mentality
3. I have only offered Babyjane assistance - I have zero interest in purchasing this piece and at no point did BabyJane intimate that she wanted to sell to me or to anyone else.
I think a lot of you are hysterical drama queens, with nothing better to do then gang up on people. I have seen how you treated that poor kid Cartrain and add how, when you dont get the print/piece you want you get all nicely a chummy, when you dont, you turn into viscious turncoats, you people are a joke, who I never have and never will take seriously. I am just thankful that I can afford to buy the art direct from source, without having to resort to dealing with some of you muppets (graeme the flipper, Icky, Mammal, rudecopper, Ronhill to name a few).
Have a nice weekend
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banksy police car, by savilerogue on Mar 8, 2008 13:26:06 GMT 1, a banksy expert
Banksy expert my arse.
a banksy expert Banksy expert my arse.
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banksy police car, by alsbabar on Mar 8, 2008 13:28:09 GMT 1, heard that one eariler savile
heard that one eariler savile
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banksy police car, by romanywg on Mar 8, 2008 13:32:13 GMT 1, If you think so highly of most of the forum members on here Alsbabar why don't you do us all a big favour and FUCK OFF! You bring nothing to this forum except bad karma.
If you think so highly of most of the forum members on here Alsbabar why don't you do us all a big favour and FUCK OFF! You bring nothing to this forum except bad karma.
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banksy police car, by savilerogue on Mar 8, 2008 13:40:29 GMT 1, I think a lot of you are hysterical drama queens
when you dont get the print/piece you want you get all nicely a chummy, when you dont, you turn into viscious turncoats, you people are a joke, who I never have and never will take seriously. I am just thankful that I can afford to buy the art direct from source, without having to resort to dealing with some of you muppets (graeme the flipper, Icky, Mammal, rudecopper, Ronhill to name a few). Have a nice weekend
Funny.
I think a lot of you are hysterical drama queens when you dont get the print/piece you want you get all nicely a chummy, when you dont, you turn into viscious turncoats, you people are a joke, who I never have and never will take seriously. I am just thankful that I can afford to buy the art direct from source, without having to resort to dealing with some of you muppets (graeme the flipper, Icky, Mammal, rudecopper, Ronhill to name a few). Have a nice weekend Funny.
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banksy police car, by alsbabar on Mar 8, 2008 13:41:03 GMT 1, did i mention your name roman? no so shutup you cunt
did i mention your name roman? no so shutup you cunt
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banksy police car, by finsburyparkranger on Mar 8, 2008 13:55:34 GMT 1, you people who are throwing their toys out of their prams.
did i mention your name roman? no so shutup you c**t
you people who are throwing their toys out of their prams. did i mention your name roman? no so shutup you c**t
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banksy police car, by seidbereit on Mar 8, 2008 13:56:39 GMT 1, Great piece babyjane
I hope you take the general advice here and do nothing until you've had this properly authenticated.
Just a general question to those more knowledgable than me... but on the assumption that both are exactly the same piece on cardboard it looks like the cardboard (particularly at the front of the car) has been cut down quite a lot in order to fit into that frame... is this important issue? There must be 2 or 3 inches missing off the right hand side...
Great piece babyjane I hope you take the general advice here and do nothing until you've had this properly authenticated. Just a general question to those more knowledgable than me... but on the assumption that both are exactly the same piece on cardboard it looks like the cardboard (particularly at the front of the car) has been cut down quite a lot in order to fit into that frame... is this important issue? There must be 2 or 3 inches missing off the right hand side...
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banksy police car, by icky on Mar 8, 2008 13:57:09 GMT 1, Albabar: Babyjane comes on to the biggest forum about Banksy art and one of the biggest posters tell her: "... sorry to say babyjane, its not a real banksy" (a letter by letter quote)
Don't you think it would have been nice to say "I don't think it's a real banksy" instead?
Albabar: Babyjane comes on to the biggest forum about Banksy art and one of the biggest posters tell her: "... sorry to say babyjane, its not a real banksy" (a letter by letter quote)
Don't you think it would have been nice to say "I don't think it's a real banksy" instead?
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banksy police car, by seidbereit on Mar 8, 2008 14:02:21 GMT 1, I read that as "biggest posers"
I read that as "biggest posers"
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banksy police car, by kingdomcome on Mar 8, 2008 14:35:49 GMT 1, Alsbaber. Iโm sure in the real world you are decent sort of chap and I suspect the anonymity of the forum allows you to behave in a manner that may not be the real you.
Recently I posted a polite message asking people if there was any foundation to the Banksy / Laz split story, as I couldnโt find any threads on the forum relating to it.
I was immediately slammed down by you and told that it was completely untrue.
As a fairly new member I found your message unhelpful, rude and unnecessary
Similarly in the way you told BabyJane you had it on good authority her Banksy was a fake - you told me that you knew for a fact the story was untrue.
Current evidence seems to suggest that Babyjanes piece may be genuine and you are possibly wrong.
You claim to have the inside track on pretty much all the hearsay on this forum and from what I have seen / read in relation to Babyjanes post, your โexpertโ may have let you down on this occasion.
There may also possibly be a grain of truth to the Banksy / Laz story - time will tell.
Of course, you are completely entitled to your opinion but please remember that an opinion isnt the same as a fact.
Alsbaber. Iโm sure in the real world you are decent sort of chap and I suspect the anonymity of the forum allows you to behave in a manner that may not be the real you.
Recently I posted a polite message asking people if there was any foundation to the Banksy / Laz split story, as I couldnโt find any threads on the forum relating to it.
I was immediately slammed down by you and told that it was completely untrue.
As a fairly new member I found your message unhelpful, rude and unnecessary
Similarly in the way you told BabyJane you had it on good authority her Banksy was a fake - you told me that you knew for a fact the story was untrue.
Current evidence seems to suggest that Babyjanes piece may be genuine and you are possibly wrong.
You claim to have the inside track on pretty much all the hearsay on this forum and from what I have seen / read in relation to Babyjanes post, your โexpertโ may have let you down on this occasion.
There may also possibly be a grain of truth to the Banksy / Laz story - time will tell.
Of course, you are completely entitled to your opinion but please remember that an opinion isnt the same as a fact.
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banksy police car, by arcam on Mar 8, 2008 14:46:56 GMT 1, 2. The opinion about this piece was not mine - it was somebody elses - and in time, this PERSON, will be proven to be wrong or right - so till then, lay off the gang bullying mentality I think what people were annoyed at was your sweeping statement that it wasn't a real Banksy. And I quote...
ok got a heads up on this - this was never a print, this was only ever a stencil painting on canvas, so sorry to say babyjane, its not a real banksy Granted you were just trying to help but regardless of whether you got this info from a 'source', it is quite a claim to make. babyjane could have quite easily taken that as 'fact' and sold it for a fraction of it's true worth. And this isn't the first time you've made such sweeping statements, the Trolley's from the Ghetto seems to spring to mind. Again you posted that you heard from a 'source' that the handles were hand painted. The result of that was sellers quick to include it in their auctions and those that didn't know better may have ended up paying more for something that wasn't true.
So the lesson here is unless YOU know it to be true, maybe it's best to restrain from quoting things you've just heard as being 'fact'.
2. The opinion about this piece was not mine - it was somebody elses - and in time, this PERSON, will be proven to be wrong or right - so till then, lay off the gang bullying mentality I think what people were annoyed at was your sweeping statement that it wasn't a real Banksy. And I quote... ok got a heads up on this - this was never a print, this was only ever a stencil painting on canvas, so sorry to say babyjane, its not a real banksy Granted you were just trying to help but regardless of whether you got this info from a 'source', it is quite a claim to make. babyjane could have quite easily taken that as 'fact' and sold it for a fraction of it's true worth. And this isn't the first time you've made such sweeping statements, the Trolley's from the Ghetto seems to spring to mind. Again you posted that you heard from a 'source' that the handles were hand painted. The result of that was sellers quick to include it in their auctions and those that didn't know better may have ended up paying more for something that wasn't true. So the lesson here is unless YOU know it to be true, maybe it's best to restrain from quoting things you've just heard as being 'fact'.
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banksy police car, by mammal2 on Mar 8, 2008 14:54:41 GMT 1, let me make a few things clear to you people who are throwing their toys out of their prams. 1. I never said I was a Banksy Expert - I would defy anyone to prove at any point where I made such a sweeping statement 2. The opinion about this piece was not mine - it was somebody elses - and in time, this PERSON, will be proven to be wrong or right - so till then, lay off the gang bullying mentality 3. I have only offered Babyjane assistance - I have zero interest in purchasing this piece and at no point did BabyJane intimate that she wanted to sell to me or to anyone else. I think a lot of you are hysterical drama queens, with nothing better to do then gang up on people. I have seen how you treated that poor kid Cartrain and add how, when you dont get the print/piece you want you get all nicely a chummy, when you dont, you turn into viscious turncoats, you people are a joke, who I never have and never will take seriously. I am just thankful that I can afford to buy the art direct from source, without having to resort to dealing with some of you muppets (graeme the flipper, Icky, Mammal, rudecopper, Ronhill to name a few). Have a nice weekend
You are an idiot to be fair though!
let me make a few things clear to you people who are throwing their toys out of their prams. 1. I never said I was a Banksy Expert - I would defy anyone to prove at any point where I made such a sweeping statement 2. The opinion about this piece was not mine - it was somebody elses - and in time, this PERSON, will be proven to be wrong or right - so till then, lay off the gang bullying mentality 3. I have only offered Babyjane assistance - I have zero interest in purchasing this piece and at no point did BabyJane intimate that she wanted to sell to me or to anyone else. I think a lot of you are hysterical drama queens, with nothing better to do then gang up on people. I have seen how you treated that poor kid Cartrain and add how, when you dont get the print/piece you want you get all nicely a chummy, when you dont, you turn into viscious turncoats, you people are a joke, who I never have and never will take seriously. I am just thankful that I can afford to buy the art direct from source, without having to resort to dealing with some of you muppets (graeme the flipper, Icky, Mammal, rudecopper, Ronhill to name a few). Have a nice weekend You are an idiot to be fair though!
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banksy police car, by alsbabar on Mar 8, 2008 15:03:20 GMT 1, so what you are saying then Arcam, because of me, BabyJ could have sold it for a fraction of the price it could be worth? What if it is not a real banksy, then what?
As for the Trolleys Handles - again, because of me, someone misrepresented their listings? It wasnt just me who said these are hand finished, so dont portion all this issue at me, however I will stand by my word on this. Eveyone a much respected member on this forum, and after presenting him with this evidence, he took a different view.
What I get told by people I trust and respect, I know it to be true. I tell you the lesson to be learnt here, dont tell anyone jack s**t, with the exception of those who trust me and i trust them in return. So I will put my hand up and say, yes, I shouldnt have made any statement, I shouldnt try and help someone. So carrying on with your bickering and leave me out of this debate going forwards, as I am retracting all my comments, comments which I am led to believe are true.
So please continue to talk about the art, and dont turn every thread into an issue about me.
so what you are saying then Arcam, because of me, BabyJ could have sold it for a fraction of the price it could be worth? What if it is not a real banksy, then what?
As for the Trolleys Handles - again, because of me, someone misrepresented their listings? It wasnt just me who said these are hand finished, so dont portion all this issue at me, however I will stand by my word on this. Eveyone a much respected member on this forum, and after presenting him with this evidence, he took a different view.
What I get told by people I trust and respect, I know it to be true. I tell you the lesson to be learnt here, dont tell anyone jack s**t, with the exception of those who trust me and i trust them in return. So I will put my hand up and say, yes, I shouldnt have made any statement, I shouldnt try and help someone. So carrying on with your bickering and leave me out of this debate going forwards, as I am retracting all my comments, comments which I am led to believe are true.
So please continue to talk about the art, and dont turn every thread into an issue about me.
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banksy police car, by savilerogue on Mar 8, 2008 15:12:44 GMT 1, so what you are saying then Arcam, because of me, BabyJ could have sold it for a fraction of the price it could be worth? What if it is not a real banksy, then what? As for the Trolleys Handles - again, because of me, someone misrepresented their listings? It wasnt just me who said these are hand finished, so dont portion all this issue at me, however I will stand by my word on this. Eveyone would agree that Pezlow is respected on this forum, and after presenting him with this evidence, he took a different view. What I get told by people I trust and respect, I know it to be true. I tell you the lesson to be learnt here, dont tell anyone jack s**t, with the exception of those who trust me and i trust them in return. So I will put my hand up and say, yes, I shouldnt have made any statement, I shouldnt try and help someone. So carrying on with your bickering and leave me out of this debate going forwards, as I am retracting all my comments, comments which I am led to believe are true. So please continue to talk about the art, and dont turn every thread into an issue about me.
The only one turning threads into issues about yourself is you, you preening popinjay.
so what you are saying then Arcam, because of me, BabyJ could have sold it for a fraction of the price it could be worth? What if it is not a real banksy, then what? As for the Trolleys Handles - again, because of me, someone misrepresented their listings? It wasnt just me who said these are hand finished, so dont portion all this issue at me, however I will stand by my word on this. Eveyone would agree that Pezlow is respected on this forum, and after presenting him with this evidence, he took a different view. What I get told by people I trust and respect, I know it to be true. I tell you the lesson to be learnt here, dont tell anyone jack s**t, with the exception of those who trust me and i trust them in return. So I will put my hand up and say, yes, I shouldnt have made any statement, I shouldnt try and help someone. So carrying on with your bickering and leave me out of this debate going forwards, as I am retracting all my comments, comments which I am led to believe are true. So please continue to talk about the art, and dont turn every thread into an issue about me. The only one turning threads into issues about yourself is you, you preening popinjay.
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banksy police car, by Dead Elvis on Mar 8, 2008 15:15:09 GMT 1, Get a good lawyer.
Get a good lawyer.
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