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POW Open Day โข 2008, by pfffffffffft on Nov 22, 2008 18:55:01 GMT 1, I have no Fing idea where this SG if it happens will be and I don't fing care . Maybe BONGO knows who knows ? I don't Mind you how about this for an idea POW? I think POW should take note of what the RCA does with it's Secrets sale each year. OK you have to queue up to see if you can get anything BUT It's one of the most democratic art sales in the world, everyone has an equal chance of getting a big name But the identity of the artist is only revealed once the artwork is bought. You could register with POW in advance ie be registered on their mailing list which would prevent you from multiple purchases. Queue up before hand at POW headquarters and when it is your turn in the que pay a set price chose just one number at random and then be handed over a tube with the corresponding No. you have chosen to find out what you had just purchased. Could be Faile, Voucher, EINE, SAM3, Zeus, Dolk,Aiko or if your lucky even a Banksy in fact any number of artists. Now this could be a new sort of SG with All the POW and LAZ artists taking part. You'd never know if you had a Banksy or not until handed the tube. The money raised could be for Banksys charity. That way everyone has an equal chance of getting a big name. and would f**k the flippers up no end. Can you imagine them queuing up for days only to find what they consider a lesser know artist than Banksy in their tube. OK if this is what they are doing it was Just a Lucky Guess. Leaks what leaks BONGO that place is as wartertight as a Ducks Arse? That is a terrible idea. Awful. RCA postcards is benevolence with a blindfold which the punters understand and accept. SG isn't about Banksy, its a collective show.
RCA is benevolence but without a blindfold. You can see all of the art, all 2699 pcs, on their web site and if you were familiar with Tracy Emin's work you could pretty easily dig through the images to figure out which were hers.
SG is indeed a collective show, and they could easily have the show with a sample of each of the works that will be in the tubes. SG is all about benevolence. You go to the show and if there is any piece you are unhappy with getting then you don't buy anything. That would definitely keep many of the punters at bay.
I have no Fing idea where this SG if it happens will be and I don't fing care . Maybe BONGO knows who knows ? I don't Mind you how about this for an idea POW? I think POW should take note of what the RCA does with it's Secrets sale each year. OK you have to queue up to see if you can get anything BUT It's one of the most democratic art sales in the world, everyone has an equal chance of getting a big name But the identity of the artist is only revealed once the artwork is bought. You could register with POW in advance ie be registered on their mailing list which would prevent you from multiple purchases. Queue up before hand at POW headquarters and when it is your turn in the que pay a set price chose just one number at random and then be handed over a tube with the corresponding No. you have chosen to find out what you had just purchased. Could be Faile, Voucher, EINE, SAM3, Zeus, Dolk,Aiko or if your lucky even a Banksy in fact any number of artists. Now this could be a new sort of SG with All the POW and LAZ artists taking part. You'd never know if you had a Banksy or not until handed the tube. The money raised could be for Banksys charity. That way everyone has an equal chance of getting a big name. and would f**k the flippers up no end. Can you imagine them queuing up for days only to find what they consider a lesser know artist than Banksy in their tube. OK if this is what they are doing it was Just a Lucky Guess. Leaks what leaks BONGO that place is as wartertight as a Ducks Arse? That is a terrible idea. Awful. RCA postcards is benevolence with a blindfold which the punters understand and accept. SG isn't about Banksy, its a collective show. RCA is benevolence but without a blindfold. You can see all of the art, all 2699 pcs, on their web site and if you were familiar with Tracy Emin's work you could pretty easily dig through the images to figure out which were hers. SG is indeed a collective show, and they could easily have the show with a sample of each of the works that will be in the tubes. SG is all about benevolence. You go to the show and if there is any piece you are unhappy with getting then you don't buy anything. That would definitely keep many of the punters at bay. |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by Agent Provocateur on Nov 22, 2008 19:07:53 GMT 1, Just got to the thread late.. read your post ardvark and liked initially, buuut imo I thought there was a tiny flaw in the plan (as pfffffffffft touched on).
The whole point with the RCA thing is you get to SEE everything and choose what to buy... you either go for somethings that you like or try and guess which ones are the huge artists which will be worth more.
Is what you're saying with SG you don't see anything and just pick a number and trust to blind luck? And the obvious flaw in the plan if everyone gets to see the pieces before and can then choose like the RCA then it's obvious who prints are whose.
I may be missing the point 
Just got to the thread late.. read your post ardvark and liked initially, buuut imo I thought there was a tiny flaw in the plan (as pfffffffffft touched on). The whole point with the RCA thing is you get to SEE everything and choose what to buy... you either go for somethings that you like or try and guess which ones are the huge artists which will be worth more. Is what you're saying with SG you don't see anything and just pick a number and trust to blind luck? And the obvious flaw in the plan if everyone gets to see the pieces before and can then choose like the RCA then it's obvious who prints are whose. I may be missing the point |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by elwheel on Nov 22, 2008 19:12:02 GMT 1, RCA is benevolence with a blindfold because the authorship is not revealed until after the purchase, the product is singular, the benefiary remains constant every year, and the consumer picks the image which best appeals to them - be the author Tracey Emin or Joe the Plumber. The point with RCA is that you pick the art you like and purchase it - the subsequent revelation of the author should provoke either ambivalence (JTP) or an unexpected surprise (Emin) - you purchased (donated) based on personal preference. Yes SG is premised on benevolence also but targets collectors and provides access to declared editions. If I know that Lucy is in SG I will most likely not depart with my hard earned if I think there is a1/20 chance of recieving a BTOY (for example - no preference declared).
RCA is benevolence with a blindfold because the authorship is not revealed until after the purchase, the product is singular, the benefiary remains constant every year, and the consumer picks the image which best appeals to them - be the author Tracey Emin or Joe the Plumber. The point with RCA is that you pick the art you like and purchase it - the subsequent revelation of the author should provoke either ambivalence (JTP) or an unexpected surprise (Emin) - you purchased (donated) based on personal preference. Yes SG is premised on benevolence also but targets collectors and provides access to declared editions. If I know that Lucy is in SG I will most likely not depart with my hard earned if I think there is a1/20 chance of recieving a BTOY (for example - no preference declared).
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by pfffffffffft on Nov 22, 2008 19:12:26 GMT 1, Just got to the thread late.. read your post ardvark and liked initially, buuut imo I thought there was a tiny flaw in the plan (as pfffffffffft touched on). The whole point with the RCA thing is you get to SEE everything and choose what to buy... you either go for somethings that you like or try and guess which ones are the huge artists which will be worth more. Is what you're saying with SG you don't see anything and just pick a number and trust to blind luck? And the obvious flaw in the plan if everyone gets to see the pieces before and can then choose like the RCA then it's obvious who prints are whose. I may be missing the point
Well SG could still display all the works that will be available in a show and then you have to decide whether it's worth risking X amount of pounds to get the work you like least and hope you get a work you like.
They'd need to be reasonable in pricing, just like RCA prices at 40K GBP, perhaps POW prices at 60 GBP?
Just got to the thread late.. read your post ardvark and liked initially, buuut imo I thought there was a tiny flaw in the plan (as pfffffffffft touched on). The whole point with the RCA thing is you get to SEE everything and choose what to buy... you either go for somethings that you like or try and guess which ones are the huge artists which will be worth more. Is what you're saying with SG you don't see anything and just pick a number and trust to blind luck? And the obvious flaw in the plan if everyone gets to see the pieces before and can then choose like the RCA then it's obvious who prints are whose. I may be missing the point Well SG could still display all the works that will be available in a show and then you have to decide whether it's worth risking X amount of pounds to get the work you like least and hope you get a work you like. They'd need to be reasonable in pricing, just like RCA prices at 40K GBP, perhaps POW prices at 60 GBP? |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by Lord Lucas Roham on Nov 22, 2008 19:13:39 GMT 1, Bongo, your one mad little f*cker. I salute you.
Godspeed, where ever you may be.
Bongo, your one mad little f*cker. I salute you.
Godspeed, where ever you may be.
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by pfffffffffft on Nov 22, 2008 19:20:28 GMT 1, RCA is benevolence with a blindfold because the authorship is not revealed until after the purchase, the product is singular, the benefiary remains constant every year, and the consumer picks the image which best appeals to them - be the author Tracey Emin or Joe the Plumber. The point with RCA is that you pick the art you like and purchase it - the subsequent revelation of the author should provoke either ambivalence (JTP) or an unexpected surprise (Emin) - you purchased (donated) based on personal preference. Yes SG is premised on benevolence also but targets collectors and provides access to declared editions. If I know that Lucy is in SG I will most likely not depart with my hard earned if I think there is a1/20 chance of recieving a BTOY (for example - no preference declared).
Again, someone who takes the time to study the works of the better known names could figure out which works are likely the works of Tracey Emin or Damien Hirst. I dont buy into RCA being completely blindfolded. Just requires research and yes you're still taking a chance, it's not completely random.
However, lets say you like 15 of the 20 works that SG would be displaying. You'd have a 75% chance of nabbing a work you like. Would be up to you then to decide if you like your odds. If you are allowed to purchase up to 4, like in the case of RCA, then your odds would be you likely nabbing 3 pieces you like and one to swap. Now lets say the price was 60 GBP, all in you paid 240 GBP for 3 works you like.
I like this idea, and SG is a charitable event, and would be a very fine way for SG to promote some new and lesser known artists as well.
RCA is benevolence with a blindfold because the authorship is not revealed until after the purchase, the product is singular, the benefiary remains constant every year, and the consumer picks the image which best appeals to them - be the author Tracey Emin or Joe the Plumber. The point with RCA is that you pick the art you like and purchase it - the subsequent revelation of the author should provoke either ambivalence (JTP) or an unexpected surprise (Emin) - you purchased (donated) based on personal preference. Yes SG is premised on benevolence also but targets collectors and provides access to declared editions. If I know that Lucy is in SG I will most likely not depart with my hard earned if I think there is a1/20 chance of recieving a BTOY (for example - no preference declared). Again, someone who takes the time to study the works of the better known names could figure out which works are likely the works of Tracey Emin or Damien Hirst. I dont buy into RCA being completely blindfolded. Just requires research and yes you're still taking a chance, it's not completely random. However, lets say you like 15 of the 20 works that SG would be displaying. You'd have a 75% chance of nabbing a work you like. Would be up to you then to decide if you like your odds. If you are allowed to purchase up to 4, like in the case of RCA, then your odds would be you likely nabbing 3 pieces you like and one to swap. Now lets say the price was 60 GBP, all in you paid 240 GBP for 3 works you like. I like this idea, and SG is a charitable event, and would be a very fine way for SG to promote some new and lesser known artists as well. |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by Agent Provocateur on Nov 22, 2008 19:36:28 GMT 1, Cheers pfffffffffft, gotya... you know all the prints available, pay your standard price (say ยฃ50) and keep your fingers crossed.
Ahhhhhh, I just don't think I like it, I'd prefer my one chance at going for what I want and getting/missing it. And because the cost would be much cheaper there'd be a load more people up for putting it down therefore meaning you have even less chance of getting what you want because of the demand.
SG is all about it's charitable/benevolent giving, the prints are all about the demand from collectors for their particular favourites etc and it all needs to be fair, open to all and above board... now I know I'm going to be called mad but I've just thought of an idea ;D
-SG08... four different locations, four different continents (forgotten how man there are!), four different charities and four sets (which differ) of the same selection of prints. This is more to manage but if you can only purchase online from the continent you're in, giving money to the charity closest to you, and getting a specific print no other continent has then you're spreading the wealth and getting the print you want whilst allowing more people to participate and get a result!!!!
OK, that's an idea... and probably very difficult to coordinate but seems to negate some of the issues with the demand SG/Banksy creates.
All under the flag of 'imo' 
Cheers pfffffffffft, gotya... you know all the prints available, pay your standard price (say ยฃ50) and keep your fingers crossed. Ahhhhhh, I just don't think I like it, I'd prefer my one chance at going for what I want and getting/missing it. And because the cost would be much cheaper there'd be a load more people up for putting it down therefore meaning you have even less chance of getting what you want because of the demand. SG is all about it's charitable/benevolent giving, the prints are all about the demand from collectors for their particular favourites etc and it all needs to be fair, open to all and above board... now I know I'm going to be called mad but I've just thought of an idea ;D -SG08... four different locations, four different continents (forgotten how man there are!), four different charities and four sets (which differ) of the same selection of prints. This is more to manage but if you can only purchase online from the continent you're in, giving money to the charity closest to you, and getting a specific print no other continent has then you're spreading the wealth and getting the print you want whilst allowing more people to participate and get a result!!!! OK, that's an idea... and probably very difficult to coordinate but seems to negate some of the issues with the demand SG/Banksy creates. All under the flag of 'imo' |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by pfffffffffft on Nov 22, 2008 19:47:14 GMT 1, Cheers pfffffffffft, gotya... you know all the prints available, pay your standard price (say ยฃ50) and keep your fingers crossed. Ahhhhhh, I just don't think I like it, I'd prefer my one chance at going for what I want and getting/missing it. And because the cost would be much cheaper there'd be a load more people up for putting it down therefore meaning you have even less chance of getting what you want because of the demand. SG is all about it's charitable/benevolent giving, the prints are all about the demand from collectors for their particular favourites etc and it all needs to be fair, open to all and above board... now I know I'm going to be called mad but I've just thought of an idea ;D -SG08... four different locations, four different continents (forgotten how man there are!), four different charities and four sets (which differ) of the same selection of prints. This is more to manage but if you can only purchase online from the continent you're in, giving money to the charity closest to you, and getting a specific print no other continent has then you're spreading the wealth and getting the print you want whilst allowing more people to participate and get a result!!!! OK, that's an idea... and probably very difficult to coordinate but seems to negate some of the issues with the demand SG/Banksy creates. All under the flag of 'imo'
I like this idea as well but I think with the economy being what it is it could prove not only costly but with the logistics involved, difficult to pull off as well.
I think the issue is, there will always be a demand for the big name artists so fighting the flippers, the queue, and the weather only to find sold out is an issue for many.
If it's viewed more along the lines of a raffle for charity with a donation, in exchange for your donation you get a free random piece of art well then all the better.
I understand both perspectives, I think I am just looking for a fairer way for something like SG to roll out.
Cheers pfffffffffft, gotya... you know all the prints available, pay your standard price (say ยฃ50) and keep your fingers crossed. Ahhhhhh, I just don't think I like it, I'd prefer my one chance at going for what I want and getting/missing it. And because the cost would be much cheaper there'd be a load more people up for putting it down therefore meaning you have even less chance of getting what you want because of the demand. SG is all about it's charitable/benevolent giving, the prints are all about the demand from collectors for their particular favourites etc and it all needs to be fair, open to all and above board... now I know I'm going to be called mad but I've just thought of an idea ;D -SG08... four different locations, four different continents (forgotten how man there are!), four different charities and four sets (which differ) of the same selection of prints. This is more to manage but if you can only purchase online from the continent you're in, giving money to the charity closest to you, and getting a specific print no other continent has then you're spreading the wealth and getting the print you want whilst allowing more people to participate and get a result!!!! OK, that's an idea... and probably very difficult to coordinate but seems to negate some of the issues with the demand SG/Banksy creates. All under the flag of 'imo' I like this idea as well but I think with the economy being what it is it could prove not only costly but with the logistics involved, difficult to pull off as well. I think the issue is, there will always be a demand for the big name artists so fighting the flippers, the queue, and the weather only to find sold out is an issue for many. If it's viewed more along the lines of a raffle for charity with a donation, in exchange for your donation you get a free random piece of art well then all the better. I understand both perspectives, I think I am just looking for a fairer way for something like SG to roll out. |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by Agent Provocateur on Nov 22, 2008 20:10:08 GMT 1, Haha yep, I'd only had the idea but thought I'd post.
I think it's because I've had a few light ales this afternoon that I missed the crux of your point pfffffffffft... your last post made it clear tho. What you're saying is change the whole premise of SG, and create a raffle/tombola. Forget what's gone before and create a new platform to allow more people to take part, enjoy and get a great piece of art cheaper than if they bought it primary.
I like and I'd be prepared to gamble for the right price... how bout a tiered ticket price:
ยฃ10 for 'x' artists work
ยฃ20 for 'xx' artists work
ยฃ50 for an Insect, Micalef and Banksy
etc etc... means you can play the field, have fun and put your eggs in the baskets of your choise?
Am I being argumentative? Haha
Haha yep, I'd only had the idea but thought I'd post.
I think it's because I've had a few light ales this afternoon that I missed the crux of your point pfffffffffft... your last post made it clear tho. What you're saying is change the whole premise of SG, and create a raffle/tombola. Forget what's gone before and create a new platform to allow more people to take part, enjoy and get a great piece of art cheaper than if they bought it primary.
I like and I'd be prepared to gamble for the right price... how bout a tiered ticket price:
ยฃ10 for 'x' artists work
ยฃ20 for 'xx' artists work
ยฃ50 for an Insect, Micalef and Banksy
etc etc... means you can play the field, have fun and put your eggs in the baskets of your choise?
Am I being argumentative? Haha
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by pfffffffffft on Nov 22, 2008 20:19:48 GMT 1, Haha yep, I'd only had the idea but thought I'd post. I think it's because I've had a few light ales this afternoon that I missed the crux of your point pfffffffffft... your last post made it clear tho. What you're saying is change the whole premise of SG, and create a raffle/tombola. Forget what's gone before and create a new platform to allow more people to take part, enjoy and get a great piece of art cheaper than if they bought it primary. I like and I'd be prepared to gamble for the right price... how bout a tiered ticket price: ยฃ10 for 'x' artists work ยฃ20 for 'xx' artists work ยฃ50 for an Insect, Micalef and Banksy etc etc... means you can play the field, have fun and put your eggs in the baskets of your choise? Am I being argumentative? Haha
No, I think this is a great idea as well. I was thinking of a tiered concept in separating prints from originals, this would work fine as well and be fairer.
Hopefully there will be a SG this year and it would be amazing if it was turned around a bit and as a bonus would keep the flippers away (well for the most part).
Haha yep, I'd only had the idea but thought I'd post. I think it's because I've had a few light ales this afternoon that I missed the crux of your point pfffffffffft... your last post made it clear tho. What you're saying is change the whole premise of SG, and create a raffle/tombola. Forget what's gone before and create a new platform to allow more people to take part, enjoy and get a great piece of art cheaper than if they bought it primary. I like and I'd be prepared to gamble for the right price... how bout a tiered ticket price: ยฃ10 for 'x' artists work ยฃ20 for 'xx' artists work ยฃ50 for an Insect, Micalef and Banksy etc etc... means you can play the field, have fun and put your eggs in the baskets of your choise? Am I being argumentative? Haha No, I think this is a great idea as well. I was thinking of a tiered concept in separating prints from originals, this would work fine as well and be fairer. Hopefully there will be a SG this year and it would be amazing if it was turned around a bit and as a bonus would keep the flippers away (well for the most part). |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by alsbabar on Nov 22, 2008 20:23:21 GMT 1, POW are damned if they do something, damned if they dont - disappointing to see some people are always quick to knock them, even when they do something right, not many sing their praises, even though they have for over 5 years given us great art, shows, and a scene which we all love.
Bongo, you more than anyone I know on this forum have profitted the most from POW, how many Banksy prints/art have you bought over the last few years from them at silly low prices? i dont get why you are now so quick to put the boot in when you dont get a print!!
POW are damned if they do something, damned if they dont - disappointing to see some people are always quick to knock them, even when they do something right, not many sing their praises, even though they have for over 5 years given us great art, shows, and a scene which we all love.
Bongo, you more than anyone I know on this forum have profitted the most from POW, how many Banksy prints/art have you bought over the last few years from them at silly low prices? i dont get why you are now so quick to put the boot in when you dont get a print!!
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by pfffffffffft on Nov 22, 2008 20:37:01 GMT 1, POW are damned if they do something, damned if they dont - disappointing to see some people are always quick to knock them, even when they do something right, not many sing their praises, even though they have for over 5 years given us great art, shows, and a scene which we all love. Bongo, you more than anyone I know on this forum have profitted the most from POW, how many Banksy prints/art have you bought over the last few years from them at silly low prices? i dont get why you are now so quick to put the boot in when you dont get a print!!
Als, I think most here agree that POW did a great job rolling out this print. The bottom line is the demand is always more than the supply.
I think on something like SG, which is for charity, some were looking for other ways to manage the crush that will be on in a fairer way.
I am a big fan of POW and think they do most things right. I think people were just throwing out some ideas to make it a different event.
;D
POW are damned if they do something, damned if they dont - disappointing to see some people are always quick to knock them, even when they do something right, not many sing their praises, even though they have for over 5 years given us great art, shows, and a scene which we all love. Bongo, you more than anyone I know on this forum have profitted the most from POW, how many Banksy prints/art have you bought over the last few years from them at silly low prices? i dont get why you are now so quick to put the boot in when you dont get a print!! Als, I think most here agree that POW did a great job rolling out this print. The bottom line is the demand is always more than the supply. I think on something like SG, which is for charity, some were looking for other ways to manage the crush that will be on in a fairer way. I am a big fan of POW and think they do most things right. I think people were just throwing out some ideas to make it a different event. ;D |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by Grubster on Nov 22, 2008 21:48:39 GMT 1, wherres BONGO>>> was he SILENCED?
wherres BONGO>>> was he SILENCED?
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by BONGO on Nov 22, 2008 22:01:13 GMT 1, NOT YET
HARD TO SILENCE SOMEONE WHO HAS NO FIXED ABODE
BONGO LIKE TO REITERATE THAT HE HAS NO CATTLE DERIVED PRODUCT WITH POW
BONGO ONLY PETURBED BY THE RECENT SITUATION WITH PRINTS AND PROFITEERING
NOT YET
HARD TO SILENCE SOMEONE WHO HAS NO FIXED ABODE
BONGO LIKE TO REITERATE THAT HE HAS NO CATTLE DERIVED PRODUCT WITH POW
BONGO ONLY PETURBED BY THE RECENT SITUATION WITH PRINTS AND PROFITEERING
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by hupster on Nov 22, 2008 22:05:41 GMT 1, NOT YET HARD TO SILENCE SOMEONE WHO HAS NO FIXED ABODE BONGO LIKE TO REITERATE THAT HE HAS NO CATTLE DERIVED PRODUCT WITH POW BONGO ONLY PETURBED BY THE RECENT SITUATION WITH PRINTS AND PROFITEERING
This whole release issue is remnding me of some great lyrics:
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Deserving in its rot
seperates those who have and have not:
Hupster
NOT YET HARD TO SILENCE SOMEONE WHO HAS NO FIXED ABODE BONGO LIKE TO REITERATE THAT HE HAS NO CATTLE DERIVED PRODUCT WITH POW BONGO ONLY PETURBED BY THE RECENT SITUATION WITH PRINTS AND PROFITEERING This whole release issue is remnding me of some great lyrics: ] Deserving in its rot seperates those who have and have not: Hupster |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by elwheel on Nov 22, 2008 22:10:37 GMT 1, But Bongo what is the truth? You recently had in your hands a piece of paper and I never learned what was on that paper either. I'd love to know the truth. Is this like one of the secrets of Fatima or something? I like you. You tease.
But Bongo what is the truth? You recently had in your hands a piece of paper and I never learned what was on that paper either. I'd love to know the truth. Is this like one of the secrets of Fatima or something? I like you. You tease.
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by BONGO on Nov 22, 2008 22:12:33 GMT 1, But Bongo what is the truth? You recently had in your hands a piece of paper and I never learned what was on that paper either. I'd love to know the truth. Is this like one of the secrets of Fatima or something? I like you. You tease.
NOT TEASE
PIECE OF PAPER REFERRED TO NY SHOW
BONGO NEVER WRONG
But Bongo what is the truth? You recently had in your hands a piece of paper and I never learned what was on that paper either. I'd love to know the truth. Is this like one of the secrets of Fatima or something? I like you. You tease. NOT TEASE PIECE OF PAPER REFERRED TO NY SHOW BONGO NEVER WRONG |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by pfffffffffft on Nov 22, 2008 22:14:16 GMT 1, But Bongo what is the truth? You recently had in your hands a piece of paper and I never learned what was on that paper either. I'd love to know the truth. Is this like one of the secrets of Fatima or something? I like you. You tease. NOT TEASE PIECE OF PAPER REFERRED TO NY SHOW BONGO NEVER WRONG
Bongo is one of the secrets of Fatima. ;D
But Bongo what is the truth? You recently had in your hands a piece of paper and I never learned what was on that paper either. I'd love to know the truth. Is this like one of the secrets of Fatima or something? I like you. You tease. NOT TEASE PIECE OF PAPER REFERRED TO NY SHOW BONGO NEVER WRONG Bongo is one of the secrets of Fatima. ;D |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by motor on Nov 22, 2008 22:20:03 GMT 1, C'mon everyone knows it's in Birmingham this year.
C'mon everyone knows it's in Birmingham this year.
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by andyctree on Nov 22, 2008 22:22:07 GMT 1, The ghetto should cater to all fans of art not just the ones that can afford an immediate plane ticket to anywhere in the world. I guess to them real art fans have pools of wealth.
The ghetto should cater to all fans of art not just the ones that can afford an immediate plane ticket to anywhere in the world. I guess to them real art fans have pools of wealth.
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by elwheel on Nov 22, 2008 22:24:27 GMT 1, So he's either a vision of hell, the prediction of the end of WW1 and imminence of WW2, or the vision of an assasination attempt on the Pope. BONGO... how do you get the time?
So he's either a vision of hell, the prediction of the end of WW1 and imminence of WW2, or the vision of an assasination attempt on the Pope. BONGO... how do you get the time?
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by arcam on Nov 22, 2008 22:29:18 GMT 1, NOT TEASE PIECE OF PAPER REFERRED TO NY SHOW BONGO NEVER WRONG
It was always leaning that way. Shame it's not LA though. ;D
NOT TEASE PIECE OF PAPER REFERRED TO NY SHOW BONGO NEVER WRONG It was always leaning that way. Shame it's not LA though. ;D |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by standrews on Nov 22, 2008 22:30:43 GMT 1, :)Love the wallpaper 
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BONGO
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by BONGO on Nov 22, 2008 22:49:06 GMT 1, So he's either a vision of hell, the prediction of the end of WW1 and imminence of WW2, or the vision of an assasination attempt on the Pope. BONGO... how do you get the time?
BONGO READ NOSTRADAMUS BOOK LAST YEAR
BONGO THOUGHT IT WAS RUBBISH AS EVERYTHING HAD ALREADY HAPPENED AND BONGO HAS HISTORY BOOK TO PROVE THIS
BONGO WROTE IN SPECIAL GREEN INK TO MR DAMUS TO EXPRESS HIS DISCOVERY OF THIS OBVIOUS FLAW IN SO CALLED PROPHECIES BUT MR DAMUS NEVER WROTE BACK
MR DAMUS DIDNT PREDICT LOCATION OF SG07 EITHER
So he's either a vision of hell, the prediction of the end of WW1 and imminence of WW2, or the vision of an assasination attempt on the Pope. BONGO... how do you get the time? BONGO READ NOSTRADAMUS BOOK LAST YEAR BONGO THOUGHT IT WAS RUBBISH AS EVERYTHING HAD ALREADY HAPPENED AND BONGO HAS HISTORY BOOK TO PROVE THIS BONGO WROTE IN SPECIAL GREEN INK TO MR DAMUS TO EXPRESS HIS DISCOVERY OF THIS OBVIOUS FLAW IN SO CALLED PROPHECIES BUT MR DAMUS NEVER WROTE BACK MR DAMUS DIDNT PREDICT LOCATION OF SG07 EITHER |
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by Dr Bastard on Nov 22, 2008 22:52:24 GMT 1, A tall lady with red hair that was working at the Pet Store told me New Orleans- Was that you Bongo?
A tall lady with red hair that was working at the Pet Store told me New Orleans- Was that you Bongo?
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by slowmo on Nov 22, 2008 22:53:34 GMT 1, The ghetto last year did cater for all, it was a very selfless enterprise, raising a lot of awareness. In the years before the ghetto always reminded me of students, for want of a better word. Aparrt from 06, when it became clear the game had changed.
I don't think that anything other than a cause worthy positioning and online releasing would work now, but where is worthy? The Congo? Zimbabwe? Afghanistan? And even then how long till it is looked upon cynically, attentilon grabbing in a war zone?
Damned if they do, damned if they don't
The ghetto last year did cater for all, it was a very selfless enterprise, raising a lot of awareness. In the years before the ghetto always reminded me of students, for want of a better word. Aparrt from 06, when it became clear the game had changed.
I don't think that anything other than a cause worthy positioning and online releasing would work now, but where is worthy? The Congo? Zimbabwe? Afghanistan? And even then how long till it is looked upon cynically, attentilon grabbing in a war zone?
Damned if they do, damned if they don't
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by wiz on Nov 22, 2008 22:54:13 GMT 1, I think Mr. Damus (or Nosser to his friends) was more of a fan of Matthew Hopkins than Banksy Bongo.
I think Mr. Damus (or Nosser to his friends) was more of a fan of Matthew Hopkins than Banksy Bongo.
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G-Man
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by G-Man on Nov 22, 2008 23:27:19 GMT 1, BONGO
Hats off to you mate your posts always intrigue/entertain/inform me
I hope that you never decide to fuck off and disappear from the forum
I have no idea where you get your info or who you are but fair play to you
BONGO
Hats off to you mate your posts always intrigue/entertain/inform me
I hope that you never decide to fuck off and disappear from the forum
I have no idea where you get your info or who you are but fair play to you
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by raiden on Nov 23, 2008 5:02:04 GMT 1, I agree with Bongo...
Fact is, I think the point of Bethlehem wasn't for sniveling art collectors to whine about "rich collectors getting to the prints first" it was to challenge those rich collectors, or any collectors for that matter, to come face to face with the poverty of the area and the injustice of the separation wall.
What would you have preferred - that Banksy had done SG in London or that he did the amazing pieces he did on the separation wall? Those pieces changed the way we look at walls and made a lasting political statement that my grand children will look at in art retrospectives.
Look, I get that I sound sanctimonious, because admittedly I want a Banksy print as much as anyone (albeit not any one of his prints), but I want one mostly because of works like the ones he did in Bethlehem. How crap would Banksy had been if he just stayed in London, skipped Bethlehem, and released more stuffy canvas pieces. So everyone, SHUT UP ABOUT HOW FAR SG IS. This whole scene was about street pieces and statements in the first place, and if Banksy and the gang just do stuffy gallery shows, he'd be a sellout t**t.
I hope its in NO, LA, not just because I want to get the chance to experience the Ghetto in the States (assuming I can swing it with work) but because it would actually do some good again for the world. The area is still a disaster area I'm sure and still had deep economic problems stemming from the storm - and bringing British print starving tourists to the area would be a great thing for the areas continued recovery!
The sad part is that in all the 60 pages of 'Nola' discussion, I heard barely a sliver of questioning the meaning behind the print. The optimist says because its self-evident, but probably just because everyone cared about acquiring.
Another hint for all of us trying to figure out where SG is... Art Basel is in Miami on December 4-7th... It would be stupid for Laz to base the Ghetto on the otherside of the world, but a very cheap and easy flight from Miami to New Orleans. For Laz, you could get all the biggest collectors on a Private Jet for an afternoon to the ghetto for relatively cheap because they all are going to be in Miami.
Now I have no connection to Banksy's inner circle - SO I DON'T PROFESS TO KNOW SHIT - but I go to a lot of art shows and know how many people are going to be in the Southern United States right around the time of SG - for Art Basel.
I agree with Bongo...
Fact is, I think the point of Bethlehem wasn't for sniveling art collectors to whine about "rich collectors getting to the prints first" it was to challenge those rich collectors, or any collectors for that matter, to come face to face with the poverty of the area and the injustice of the separation wall.
What would you have preferred - that Banksy had done SG in London or that he did the amazing pieces he did on the separation wall? Those pieces changed the way we look at walls and made a lasting political statement that my grand children will look at in art retrospectives.
Look, I get that I sound sanctimonious, because admittedly I want a Banksy print as much as anyone (albeit not any one of his prints), but I want one mostly because of works like the ones he did in Bethlehem. How crap would Banksy had been if he just stayed in London, skipped Bethlehem, and released more stuffy canvas pieces. So everyone, SHUT UP ABOUT HOW FAR SG IS. This whole scene was about street pieces and statements in the first place, and if Banksy and the gang just do stuffy gallery shows, he'd be a sellout t**t.
I hope its in NO, LA, not just because I want to get the chance to experience the Ghetto in the States (assuming I can swing it with work) but because it would actually do some good again for the world. The area is still a disaster area I'm sure and still had deep economic problems stemming from the storm - and bringing British print starving tourists to the area would be a great thing for the areas continued recovery!
The sad part is that in all the 60 pages of 'Nola' discussion, I heard barely a sliver of questioning the meaning behind the print. The optimist says because its self-evident, but probably just because everyone cared about acquiring.
Another hint for all of us trying to figure out where SG is... Art Basel is in Miami on December 4-7th... It would be stupid for Laz to base the Ghetto on the otherside of the world, but a very cheap and easy flight from Miami to New Orleans. For Laz, you could get all the biggest collectors on a Private Jet for an afternoon to the ghetto for relatively cheap because they all are going to be in Miami.
Now I have no connection to Banksy's inner circle - SO I DON'T PROFESS TO KNOW SHIT - but I go to a lot of art shows and know how many people are going to be in the Southern United States right around the time of SG - for Art Basel.
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POW Open Day โข 2008, by jerometurner on Nov 23, 2008 5:05:18 GMT 1, i think it's safe to say that SG will be in New Orleans
i think it's safe to say that SG will be in New Orleans
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