Strange Al
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October 2006
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by Strange Al on May 15, 2007 21:45:02 GMT 1, Nu - If you're printing is up to scratch, I'll take one of your Neate A3 "Giclees" too. 
I think it's worth mentioning that even when framed with UV glass very expensive prints should still be kept out of direct sunlight (and other sources of high UV light).
Nu - If you're printing is up to scratch, I'll take one of your Neate A3 "Giclees" too. I think it's worth mentioning that even when framed with UV glass very expensive prints should still be kept out of direct sunlight (and other sources of high UV light). |
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 15, 2007 21:57:10 GMT 1, Nu - If you're printing is up to scratch, I'll take one of your Neate A3 "Giclees" too. I think it's worth mentioning that even when framed with UV glass very expensive prints should still be kept out of direct sunlight (and other sources of high UV light).
They're pretty good, almost look like a photograph of the actual art work.. oh, yeah.. right. That's what it is.. errmm. ..Sorry, still can't get my head around Giclee prints. Then again, I'm still a vinyl addict.. hey ho... what's an m3p anyway ?
Have they stopped printing "this Giclee will self destruct after 15 years" on the back of them yet ?
Nu - If you're printing is up to scratch, I'll take one of your Neate A3 "Giclees" too. I think it's worth mentioning that even when framed with UV glass very expensive prints should still be kept out of direct sunlight (and other sources of high UV light). They're pretty good, almost look like a photograph of the actual art work.. oh, yeah.. right. That's what it is.. errmm. ..Sorry, still can't get my head around Giclee prints. Then again, I'm still a vinyl addict.. hey ho... what's an m3p anyway ? Have they stopped printing "this Giclee will self destruct after 15 years" on the back of them yet ? |
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Aza
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by Aza on May 15, 2007 22:05:15 GMT 1, Buy a Neate print then perhaps you will get your head around it
In general i agree with you, however these prints are amazing, and I am very happy with them, which at the end of the day is all thats important to me.
Buy a Neate print then perhaps you will get your head around it
In general i agree with you, however these prints are amazing, and I am very happy with them, which at the end of the day is all thats important to me.
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 15, 2007 22:08:06 GMT 1, Buy a Neate print then perhaps you will get your head around it In general i agree with you, however these prints are amazing, and I am very happy with them, which at the end of the day is all thats important to me.
Yeah, I heard.. see them in the flesh they said.. hadn't even got down to my undies and they were dragging me outta the place.. think they still have my shoe.. bastards.
Buy a Neate print then perhaps you will get your head around it In general i agree with you, however these prints are amazing, and I am very happy with them, which at the end of the day is all thats important to me. Yeah, I heard.. see them in the flesh they said.. hadn't even got down to my undies and they were dragging me outta the place.. think they still have my shoe.. bastards. |
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Aza
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by Aza on May 15, 2007 22:12:52 GMT 1, 
Well go ahead and print me out a few please, not these glossy A3 ones though, the full size matching quality ones, cheers
Well go ahead and print me out a few please, not these glossy A3 ones though, the full size matching quality ones, cheers |
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 15, 2007 22:14:53 GMT 1, Well go ahead and print me out a few please, not these glossy A3 ones though, the full size matching quality ones, cheers
can|t you just Xerox yours onto some fine art rag paper ?
Well go ahead and print me out a few please, not these glossy A3 ones though, the full size matching quality ones, cheers can|t you just Xerox yours onto some fine art rag paper ? |
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Aza
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by Aza on May 15, 2007 22:16:39 GMT 1, I want ones i dont have....unfortunately I dont have access to the big cameras or the original artworks to take the shots 
I want ones i dont have....unfortunately I dont have access to the big cameras or the original artworks to take the shots |
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funster
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October 2006
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by funster on May 16, 2007 18:47:08 GMT 1, No Epson will ever recreate how special these prints are, they're something else, hence why they look like real cardboard!
No Epson will ever recreate how special these prints are, they're something else, hence why they look like real cardboard!
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 16, 2007 19:36:37 GMT 1, No Epson will ever recreate how special these prints are, they're something else, hence why they look like real cardboard!
โGicleeโ printing with Epson
SKYblue Digital Imaging produces the exceptional quality digital prints of work using the โGicleeโ process. โGicleeโ (zheclayโ) is derived from the French word meaning "squirt" and is known in art circles as a digital method of reproducing fine art.
Today, almost all Giclee prints are produced on large format inkjet printers capable of producing millions of colors using digital technology.
SKYblue is not only relied upon by artists, art publishers, and art galleries for end-to-end imaging services, but is also trusted by the worldโs leading fine artists -- like Anthony Green RA -- to reproduce and create original artwork.
Including Adam Neates
;D ;D ;D
No Epson will ever recreate how special these prints are, they're something else, hence why they look like real cardboard! โGicleeโ printing with Epson SKYblue Digital Imaging produces the exceptional quality digital prints of work using the โGicleeโ process. โGicleeโ (zheclayโ) is derived from the French word meaning "squirt" and is known in art circles as a digital method of reproducing fine art. Today, almost all Giclee prints are produced on large format inkjet printers capable of producing millions of colors using digital technology. SKYblue is not only relied upon by artists, art publishers, and art galleries for end-to-end imaging services, but is also trusted by the worldโs leading fine artists -- like Anthony Green RA -- to reproduce and create original artwork. Including Adam Neates ;D ;D ;D |
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Aza
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by Aza on May 16, 2007 19:43:50 GMT 1, pointless argument really,,,people who have the prints are very happy with them
however its not just a case of anyone printing one out.....you would need a super high rez image to start with, something most people do not have
pointless argument really,,,people who have the prints are very happy with them
however its not just a case of anyone printing one out.....you would need a super high rez image to start with, something most people do not have
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 16, 2007 20:02:46 GMT 1, pointless argument really,,,people who have the prints are very happy with them however its not just a case of anyone printing one out.....you would need a super high rez image to start with, something most people do not have
sorry, I'm not having a go.. I love Adam's work, and I'm sure the prints are excellent.
pointless argument really,,,people who have the prints are very happy with them however its not just a case of anyone printing one out.....you would need a super high rez image to start with, something most people do not have sorry, I'm not having a go.. I love Adam's work, and I'm sure the prints are excellent. |
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RBK
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September 2006
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by RBK on May 16, 2007 20:39:10 GMT 1, Nu - I know you weren't having a go and honestly, up until getting Adam's glicees, I was in the same camp of thought as you. These truly are amazing in the flesh and really appear to be earily 'original-like'
Nu - I know you weren't having a go and honestly, up until getting Adam's glicees, I was in the same camp of thought as you. These truly are amazing in the flesh and really appear to be earily 'original-like'
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funster
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October 2006
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by funster on May 16, 2007 20:44:56 GMT 1, Really good points from NuArt, however, does anyone know how they Neates have that great textured effect aking it feel like cardboard? I.e, its not like the Banksy prints that are totally smooth...
Really good points from NuArt, however, does anyone know how they Neates have that great textured effect aking it feel like cardboard? I.e, its not like the Banksy prints that are totally smooth...
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 16, 2007 20:49:55 GMT 1, Nu - I know you weren't having a go and honestly, up until getting Adam's glicees, I was in the same camp of thought as you. These truly are amazing in the flesh and really appear to be earily 'original-like'
I'm sure i'd love them RK, it's a conceptual short circuit in my brain that can't accept having a photo taken of an original work that's then reproduce on inkjet printer. It's not even so much that it's an inkjet, just that the work, or the "art" if you like, is elsewhere.
What's the difference between this, and someone taking a high definition shot of a genuine Picasso, and then producing them as a limited edition Giclee ?
Would you see it as a Picasso, or a glorified poster for those that wanted the kudo's of owning more than a poster, but couldn't afford the genuine thing ?
So that's one point. The other being...I'd also argue that Adam's street pieces.. the "art" and "concept" that's contained within him placing these on the streets, is greater and more important than his expensive gallery portraits, and maybe that one day, this will be how they're viewed.
Nu - I know you weren't having a go and honestly, up until getting Adam's glicees, I was in the same camp of thought as you. These truly are amazing in the flesh and really appear to be earily 'original-like' I'm sure i'd love them RK, it's a conceptual short circuit in my brain that can't accept having a photo taken of an original work that's then reproduce on inkjet printer. It's not even so much that it's an inkjet, just that the work, or the "art" if you like, is elsewhere. What's the difference between this, and someone taking a high definition shot of a genuine Picasso, and then producing them as a limited edition Giclee ? Would you see it as a Picasso, or a glorified poster for those that wanted the kudo's of owning more than a poster, but couldn't afford the genuine thing ? So that's one point. The other being...I'd also argue that Adam's street pieces.. the "art" and "concept" that's contained within him placing these on the streets, is greater and more important than his expensive gallery portraits, and maybe that one day, this will be how they're viewed. |
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Winter
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March 2007
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by Winter on May 16, 2007 20:51:52 GMT 1, Just a high quality original photo and high quality print. Some good points from Nuart. Did anyone see the row of four or five large format printers in Gilbert and George's studios on the documentary recently. At the end of the day many artists see them as nothing more than a modern day tool for producing their art.
Just a high quality original photo and high quality print. Some good points from Nuart. Did anyone see the row of four or five large format printers in Gilbert and George's studios on the documentary recently. At the end of the day many artists see them as nothing more than a modern day tool for producing their art.
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 16, 2007 20:58:16 GMT 1, Hi winter, good point raised. G&G are prime examples of artists who use the format as a tool to create original art. I think it's an important difference..
Hi winter, good point raised. G&G are prime examples of artists who use the format as a tool to create original art. I think it's an important difference..
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funster
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October 2006
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by funster on May 16, 2007 21:00:15 GMT 1, What's the difference between this, and someone taking a high definition shot of a genuine Picasso, and then producing them as a limited edition Giclee ? Would you see it as a Picasso, or a glorified poster for those that wanted the kudo's of owning more than a poster, but couldn't afford the genuine thing ? I'm lucky enough to have both an Elms original and the Neate prints, and for those who couldn't get hold of one of the originals I'll just say this quickley... I love my prints (almost) as much as the original. Obviously the original has qudos (and its bigger, good frame, no-one else has it etc etc) but with full credit to Elms Lesters they've produced an absolute classic with their prints, so hats off to them. Basically, if you have a print you're not missing out on as much as a Picasso as you may think! Glorified poster or not
What's the difference between this, and someone taking a high definition shot of a genuine Picasso, and then producing them as a limited edition Giclee ? Would you see it as a Picasso, or a glorified poster for those that wanted the kudo's of owning more than a poster, but couldn't afford the genuine thing ? I'm lucky enough to have both an Elms original and the Neate prints, and for those who couldn't get hold of one of the originals I'll just say this quickley... I love my prints (almost) as much as the original. Obviously the original has qudos (and its bigger, good frame, no-one else has it etc etc) but with full credit to Elms Lesters they've produced an absolute classic with their prints, so hats off to them. Basically, if you have a print you're not missing out on as much as a Picasso as you may think! Glorified poster or not |
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RBK
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September 2006
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by RBK on May 16, 2007 21:02:29 GMT 1, Nu - I know you weren't having a go and honestly, up until getting Adam's glicees, I was in the same camp of thought as you. These truly are amazing in the flesh and really appear to be earily 'original-like' I'm sure i'd love them RK, it's a conceptual short circuit in my brain that can't accept having a photo taken of an original work that's then reproduce on inkjet printer. It's not even so much that it's an inkjet, just that the work, or the "art" if you like, is elsewhere. What's the difference between this, and someone taking a high definition shot of a genuine Picasso, and then producing them as a limited edition Giclee ? Would you see it as a Picasso, or a glorified poster for those that wanted the kudo's of owning more than a poster, but couldn't afford the genuine thing ? So that's one point. The other being...I'd also argue that Adam's street pieces.. the "art" and "concept" that's contained within him placing these on the streets, is greater and more important than his expensive gallery portraits, and maybe that one day, this will be how they're viewed.
I actually still agree with you that most giclees are crap! These are an exception though.
Think these serve a good purpose though and cater to a different audience. Their is obviously big demand for Adam's work - but aside from a few of us forum nuts - I would say that most can't plop down 10K+ GBP for an original. At this lower price point it gives another entrance point (at a much more reasonable - realize this is also a relative term - price point) for a different caliber of collector.
Nu - I know you weren't having a go and honestly, up until getting Adam's glicees, I was in the same camp of thought as you. These truly are amazing in the flesh and really appear to be earily 'original-like' I'm sure i'd love them RK, it's a conceptual short circuit in my brain that can't accept having a photo taken of an original work that's then reproduce on inkjet printer. It's not even so much that it's an inkjet, just that the work, or the "art" if you like, is elsewhere. What's the difference between this, and someone taking a high definition shot of a genuine Picasso, and then producing them as a limited edition Giclee ? Would you see it as a Picasso, or a glorified poster for those that wanted the kudo's of owning more than a poster, but couldn't afford the genuine thing ? So that's one point. The other being...I'd also argue that Adam's street pieces.. the "art" and "concept" that's contained within him placing these on the streets, is greater and more important than his expensive gallery portraits, and maybe that one day, this will be how they're viewed. I actually still agree with you that most giclees are crap! These are an exception though. Think these serve a good purpose though and cater to a different audience. Their is obviously big demand for Adam's work - but aside from a few of us forum nuts - I would say that most can't plop down 10K+ GBP for an original. At this lower price point it gives another entrance point (at a much more reasonable - realize this is also a relative term - price point) for a different caliber of collector. |
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 16, 2007 21:05:23 GMT 1, Good points guys, nice debate. And you're probably right.. now about these new fangled CD's , not as good as Vinyl are they.. are they ?
Good points guys, nice debate. And you're probably right.. now about these new fangled CD's , not as good as Vinyl are they.. are they ? |
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funster
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October 2006
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by funster on May 16, 2007 21:08:32 GMT 1, you can scratch with vinyl...
you can scratch with vinyl...
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by manchestermike on May 16, 2007 21:10:10 GMT 1, you can scratch with vinyl...
You can scratch with CDs too
you can scratch with vinyl... You can scratch with CDs too |
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by numusic on May 16, 2007 21:17:18 GMT 1, you can scratch with vinyl... You can scratch with CDs too
CDJ PRO1000.. not the same though is it 
you can scratch with vinyl... You can scratch with CDs too CDJ PRO1000.. not the same though is it |
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by carlito on May 16, 2007 21:26:32 GMT 1, i miss the mix tapes i made recording from my vinyl and hearing it jump when i stomped around in bedroom as it was recording 
i miss the mix tapes i made recording from my vinyl and hearing it jump when i stomped around in bedroom as it was recording |
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Just got my 1st Adam neate.........., by manchestermike on May 16, 2007 21:39:48 GMT 1, You can scratch with CDs too CDJ PRO1000.. not the same though is it
True, it'll get close but never be the same. My mission for the summer is to become Ableton proficient
You can scratch with CDs too CDJ PRO1000.. not the same though is it True, it'll get close but never be the same. My mission for the summer is to become Ableton proficient |
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