Urban Art Association

Exactly! Well said

They would say that this is a forum, and they are just posting their opinion but I think we can all see its a bit deeper than that agendas? motives?

v.nice

show me proof that its constant.

yeah looks to me like all the people pretending to hate it are actually huge fans and its all just one big plot to put down the value of hutches work so the perpetrators can buy it at a discount and fill there walls with juvenile 1-layer stencil work

no accounting for bad taste. each to their own.

exactly, i know what bad taste is and hairycunt def is terrible i agree

why can't hick?

you get to refer to herakut as hairycunt but when hick refers to hutch as shit he gets temporarily banned

imo the work is shit & i don't know how you can compare abstract/photorealism to a 5-10 minute stencil

hidden agendas, again

I do like a well executed single layer stencil piece. I think some of banksy's recent New Orleans stuff was amazing, and i think C215's work is brilliantly executed and takes the technique to new levels. I think that is my main issue with a lot of the single layer work that has come out over the past few years - without a new message behind the piece or a new technique (a la c215) much of the work looks dated and poorly done.

I think hutch's release of these prints is great for the people who like the image but missed out on the first editions. It does come quite a while after the original release though doesn't it? it would have been nice to see these out sooner and then see more newer work, going back to an old image without a new twist just seems a bit of a step backwards. (Banksy went back to the rats for the giant pieces in NYC but i think the scale, the messages behind them and even the fact he outsourced the painting took to the idea to a whole new level).

Forums like this are great because people with all different tastes from within a single "scene" can find out about new artists, post opinions on new work and just listen to other people's opinions. There are many artists whose work i do like, don't get, and in a few cases really cannot see what other people see in it - for these cases i just tend not to post.

I do have a couple of pieces by Herakut and i enjoy reading the threads on here, and over on the other forum, about them and often contribute, sometimes adding information and sometimes just saying i like the pieces. This is in no way hyping up the artists, merely adding to a thread with likeminded people. And i'm not sure how anyone could say that a herakut piece is yawny, especially in a thread about a rerelease of an old image, i can see how people don't like it but they do such a wide range of work it's far from boring.

Anyway, back to being quiet and only commenting where i think it adds something to the thread.

My opinion is that Hutch work is like the funny t-shirts you get at camden market, editions of 100 screenprints at £100 a pop is taking it too far. There is so much better out there to spend your money on and it narks me to think that unfortunate people will buy this print through Freerange chicken hype.

infact you tell me and everyone else why you think im hyping. All i have done was create a thread telling people it was for sale as it was not made available on a site. It was an email many would not have got and those people now have because i posted it here with quite a few people picking it up. so its the minority that have a thing against hutch and not the majority. Sorry to say that minority are stuck in their ways so will always be ayseholes.

Im glad you don't like Herakut, you stick to what you know, and leave the real art to people that appreciate it.

Your right moleman, I shouldn't comment, I was trying to show people to be cautious in spending there money but if they like it then fair enough.

So whats the real difference between a stencil painted scantily clad lady and a spray painted scantily clad lady, other than technique?

I ask this as you come across as really pompous with that last statement. I dont like Hutch, I dont like Herakut. The execution of art to me is irrelevant and not a means to measure real art at all.

Please justify why herakut is real art and hutch is not? They're both art to me, I just happen to not like either, but dont feel that I'll stick to looking at Peter Paul Reubens while you morons look at those twats herakut and their non art spraycan one day to make nonsense, which is pretty much what you are saying here? By all means say that you think hutch is crap, but dont think you are in any way superior because you like something which to your mind is superior, because that is only to your mind.