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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by yapsey on Apr 7, 2009 13:29:12 GMT 1, ^true. the true market cost is obviously not ยฃ450 (or whatever these cost) so why should brp continue to sell it for that price well after the london art fair had finished it's ยฃ1250 on brp and ยฃ1100ish on ebay. I don't think that is an outrageous mark up for a gallery.
couldn't put it better myself
^true. the true market cost is obviously not ยฃ450 (or whatever these cost) so why should brp continue to sell it for that price well after the london art fair had finished it's ยฃ1250 on brp and ยฃ1100ish on ebay. I don't think that is an outrageous mark up for a gallery. couldn't put it better myself |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by origo on Apr 7, 2009 13:29:15 GMT 1, So what people are saying is that because BRP may be selling on behalf of a flipper itยดs okay?
So what people are saying is that because BRP may be selling on behalf of a flipper itยดs okay?
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by yapsey on Apr 7, 2009 13:34:52 GMT 1, no - they're saying that they can sell it at what ever they want. why complain? you can get one off the bay for a hundred or so less. they're selling it a market value (the reasoning behind them having a spare is a pointless discussion - we don't and probably will never know the ins and out). they could have sold these prints at this sort of price at the art fair, but they didn't - they kept the price low (and then one went on the bay for about 5g if i remember rightly).
they can sell what they want to sell at what ever price they desire - it sold almost immediately so somebody isn't complaining...
no - they're saying that they can sell it at what ever they want. why complain? you can get one off the bay for a hundred or so less. they're selling it a market value (the reasoning behind them having a spare is a pointless discussion - we don't and probably will never know the ins and out). they could have sold these prints at this sort of price at the art fair, but they didn't - they kept the price low (and then one went on the bay for about 5g if i remember rightly).
they can sell what they want to sell at what ever price they desire - it sold almost immediately so somebody isn't complaining...
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Guest on Apr 7, 2009 13:38:21 GMT 1, Anyone want to sell theirs cost? NO.
Its a business not a charity. If this sells cost on BRP it will be on ebay before the day was out.
Anyone want to sell theirs cost? NO. Its a business not a charity. If this sells cost on BRP it will be on ebay before the day was out. |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 13:40:35 GMT 1, you're right yapsey - they can do exactly what they like as can any gallery - I would add a note of caution, times are changing, the money is leaving this area, the longer galleries do things that many regard as oppotunistic the harder down the line it will be for that said gallery - now I'm not having a go at anyone purely putting in perspective activities that some may question
you're right yapsey - they can do exactly what they like as can any gallery - I would add a note of caution, times are changing, the money is leaving this area, the longer galleries do things that many regard as oppotunistic the harder down the line it will be for that said gallery - now I'm not having a go at anyone purely putting in perspective activities that some may question
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by origo on Apr 7, 2009 13:41:01 GMT 1, So why is it that galleries like BRP sabotage eBay auctions, when itยดs a free market and you can sell your belongings at whatever price you feel like? I know there may be arguments like the prints havenยดt been delivered, etc. but I really donยดt see the big difference between this, and someone whoยดs selling on the bay.
Seems a bit like doublestandards to me...
So why is it that galleries like BRP sabotage eBay auctions, when itยดs a free market and you can sell your belongings at whatever price you feel like? I know there may be arguments like the prints havenยดt been delivered, etc. but I really donยดt see the big difference between this, and someone whoยดs selling on the bay.
Seems a bit like doublestandards to me...
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 13:48:51 GMT 1, no - they're saying that they can sell it at what ever they want. why complain? you can get one off the bay for a hundred or so less. they're selling it a market value (the reasoning behind them having a spare is a pointless discussion - we don't and probably will never know the ins and out). they could have sold these prints at this sort of price at the art fair, but they didn't - they kept the price low (and then one went on the bay for about 5g if i remember rightly). they can sell what they want to sell at what ever price they desire - it sold almost immediately so somebody isn't complaining...
well said
what is a flipper? Is it someone who purchased a print or painting who then wanted to sell it at profit? If so why would BRP or who they are selling it for wait months to sell it, as most pepole know the bigger profit for flippers is within the first week, well if you purchased late last year or this year. i would have liked BRP to sell it to me for cost, but they are selling it on the secondary market at the correct price (IMO) the proof is in the pudding, it seems that it has sold, so someone is happy.
no - they're saying that they can sell it at what ever they want. why complain? you can get one off the bay for a hundred or so less. they're selling it a market value (the reasoning behind them having a spare is a pointless discussion - we don't and probably will never know the ins and out). they could have sold these prints at this sort of price at the art fair, but they didn't - they kept the price low (and then one went on the bay for about 5g if i remember rightly). they can sell what they want to sell at what ever price they desire - it sold almost immediately so somebody isn't complaining... well said what is a flipper? Is it someone who purchased a print or painting who then wanted to sell it at profit? If so why would BRP or who they are selling it for wait months to sell it, as most pepole know the bigger profit for flippers is within the first week, well if you purchased late last year or this year. i would have liked BRP to sell it to me for cost, but they are selling it on the secondary market at the correct price (IMO) the proof is in the pudding, it seems that it has sold, so someone is happy. |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by etched on Apr 7, 2009 13:50:05 GMT 1, So why is it that galleries like BRP sabotage eBay auctions, when itยดs a free market and you can sell your belongings at whatever price you feel like? I know there may be arguments like the prints havenยดt been delivered, etc. but I really donยดt see the big difference between this, and someone whoยดs selling on the bay. Seems a bit like doublestandards to me...
jeez - hardly
So why is it that galleries like BRP sabotage eBay auctions, when itยดs a free market and you can sell your belongings at whatever price you feel like? I know there may be arguments like the prints havenยดt been delivered, etc. but I really donยดt see the big difference between this, and someone whoยดs selling on the bay. Seems a bit like doublestandards to me... jeez - hardly |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 13:50:40 GMT 1, So why is it that galleries like BRP sabotage eBay auctions, when itยดs a free market and you can sell your belongings at whatever price you feel like? I know there may be arguments like the prints havenยดt been delivered, etc. but I really donยดt see the big difference between this, and someone whoยดs selling on the bay. Seems a bit like doublestandards to me...
we do not know all the facts, do we?
So why is it that galleries like BRP sabotage eBay auctions, when itยดs a free market and you can sell your belongings at whatever price you feel like? I know there may be arguments like the prints havenยดt been delivered, etc. but I really donยดt see the big difference between this, and someone whoยดs selling on the bay. Seems a bit like doublestandards to me... we do not know all the facts, do we? |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by origo on Apr 7, 2009 13:54:37 GMT 1, Well, it was a conclusion based on the theory that BRP was selling this on behalf of someone.
I do not know the circumstances, just like the rest of you.
Well, it was a conclusion based on the theory that BRP was selling this on behalf of someone.
I do not know the circumstances, just like the rest of you.
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by My Name is Frank on Apr 7, 2009 14:02:22 GMT 1, They really need to differentiate their secondary sales from their primary. Different website, name etc. Scandalous behaviour on the face of it selling something for triple its price. Hope Nick Walker is getting at least 50% or is calling up POW now to come back to a more transparent and less enraging gallery
They really need to differentiate their secondary sales from their primary. Different website, name etc. Scandalous behaviour on the face of it selling something for triple its price. Hope Nick Walker is getting at least 50% or is calling up POW now to come back to a more transparent and less enraging gallery
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by sand on Apr 7, 2009 14:05:55 GMT 1, They really need to differentiate their secondary sales from their primary. Different website, name etc.
Have to agree.
If they carry on like this I just think they will continue to taint their reputation.
They really need to differentiate their secondary sales from their primary. Different website, name etc. Have to agree. If they carry on like this I just think they will continue to taint their reputation. |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Daniel Silk on Apr 7, 2009 14:13:08 GMT 1, I wonder how many people who are having a go at BRP on this thread go along to all their shows and help themselves to the free beer 
I wonder how many people who are having a go at BRP on this thread go along to all their shows and help themselves to the free beer |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by robinbanks on Apr 7, 2009 14:18:12 GMT 1, I wonder how many people who are having a go at BRP on this thread go along to all their shows and help themselves to the free beer
Tread carefully people - if I got a 24 hour ban for comparing a TOX tag to a dog turd then who knows what punishment awaits the BRP bashers!
I wonder how many people who are having a go at BRP on this thread go along to all their shows and help themselves to the free beer Tread carefully people - if I got a 24 hour ban for comparing a TOX tag to a dog turd then who knows what punishment awaits the BRP bashers! |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 14:22:52 GMT 1, wouldn't it be great if when you bought a beer down the pub for a mate he had to shut the hell up
wouldn't it be great if when you bought a beer down the pub for a mate he had to shut the hell up
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Daniel Silk on Apr 7, 2009 14:30:33 GMT 1, wouldn't it be great if when you bought a beer down the pub for a mate he had to shut the hell up
Would they call him a mate if he was slagging them off on a public forum under a false name? 
wouldn't it be great if when you bought a beer down the pub for a mate he had to shut the hell up Would they call him a mate if he was slagging them off on a public forum under a false name? |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 14:34:34 GMT 1, wouldn't it be great if when you bought a beer down the pub for a mate he had to shut the hell up Would they call him a mate if he was slagging them off on a public forum under a false name?
;D ;D
wouldn't it be great if when you bought a beer down the pub for a mate he had to shut the hell up Would they call him a mate if he was slagging them off on a public forum under a false name? ;D ;D |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 14:35:43 GMT 1, i can't see a whole lot of slagging off - rather a questioning of actions and if they're appropriate
surely a thread like this gives brp feedback on the way they run their business?
i can't see a whole lot of slagging off - rather a questioning of actions and if they're appropriate
surely a thread like this gives brp feedback on the way they run their business?
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by rdl81 on Apr 7, 2009 14:38:47 GMT 1, there is an easy solution.....sell them at the market price to start with!
there is an easy solution.....sell them at the market price to start with!
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by notworthit on Apr 7, 2009 14:41:14 GMT 1, oh well, it's gone, not to worry, no doubt an A/P will mysteriously turn up next time one of the BuRP boys is short of a bit of naughty salt 
oh well, it's gone, not to worry, no doubt an A/P will mysteriously turn up next time one of the BuRP boys is short of a bit of naughty salt |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 14:43:21 GMT 1, oh well, it's gone, not to worry, no doubt an A/P will mysteriously turn up next time one of the BuRP boys is short of a bit of naughty salt
oh well, it's gone, not to worry, no doubt an A/P will mysteriously turn up next time one of the BuRP boys is short of a bit of naughty salt |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by They call me Stephen on Apr 7, 2009 14:45:55 GMT 1, and i'm sure you'll log into your especially created account to voice your true feelings rather than have the balls to say them under your usual name
oh well, it's gone, not to worry, no doubt an A/P will mysteriously turn up next time one of the BuRP boys is short of a bit of naughty salt
and i'm sure you'll log into your especially created account to voice your true feelings rather than have the balls to say them under your usual name oh well, it's gone, not to worry, no doubt an A/P will mysteriously turn up next time one of the BuRP boys is short of a bit of naughty salt |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by klyde on Apr 7, 2009 14:53:56 GMT 1, oh well, it's gone, not to worry, no doubt an A/P will mysteriously turn up next time one of the BuRP boys is short of a bit of naughty salt
Haha! Indeed!
oh well, it's gone, not to worry, no doubt an A/P will mysteriously turn up next time one of the BuRP boys is short of a bit of naughty salt Haha! Indeed! |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by andypandy on Apr 7, 2009 14:59:00 GMT 1, I wonder how many people who are having a go at BRP on this thread go along to all their shows and help themselves to the free beer
more to the point - some of the people that are having a pop at brp will have triggerfingers on f5 next time a walker release is on line and then straight on to ebay within minutes, never mind the free beer.
everyone has to eat right?
and the other point - if i were to have purchased a print from brp and then my circumstances changed and i had to sell but felt uncomfortable with ebay, would it be unacceptable of me to contact the gallery to explain and then ask if they could sell it for me? By the time they have paid their taxes, vat etc etc and the actual consignee, they probably end up about with 10% profit right? Just another example of a possibilty.
I may be wrong but isnt everyone quick to jump on the negativity bandwagon all the time. For what its worth i have always found that brp have been helpful and accomodating and in an industry that is full of luvvies, arsekissers and arogance - that is few and far between.
p.s making a profit isnt a big deal - its called business.
I wonder how many people who are having a go at BRP on this thread go along to all their shows and help themselves to the free beer more to the point - some of the people that are having a pop at brp will have triggerfingers on f5 next time a walker release is on line and then straight on to ebay within minutes, never mind the free beer. everyone has to eat right? and the other point - if i were to have purchased a print from brp and then my circumstances changed and i had to sell but felt uncomfortable with ebay, would it be unacceptable of me to contact the gallery to explain and then ask if they could sell it for me? By the time they have paid their taxes, vat etc etc and the actual consignee, they probably end up about with 10% profit right? Just another example of a possibilty. I may be wrong but isnt everyone quick to jump on the negativity bandwagon all the time. For what its worth i have always found that brp have been helpful and accomodating and in an industry that is full of luvvies, arsekissers and arogance - that is few and far between. p.s making a profit isnt a big deal - its called business. |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Daniel Silk on Apr 7, 2009 15:04:58 GMT 1, Good post Pandy 
I really worry about some people on here the amount of negativity in their lives is scary  I feel really sorry for them.
Good post Pandy I really worry about some people on here the amount of negativity in their lives is scary I feel really sorry for them. |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by BlackRatPress on Apr 7, 2009 15:05:33 GMT 1, ok so not to get too involved here. A regular client lost his job and said he needed to sell the print. He was phoning as he intended to put it on ebay. I offered to sell it for him and didnt expect him to sell at cost when he would get more elsewhere. I am sorry if some of you find this unforgivable but it is a decision I made and feel comfortable with.
Totally understand that this is a business and is open to criticism and have no issues with that. Not keen on the idiot who said the Brp boys (especially since there is only me and sarah here) are selling pictures to fund a 'naught salt' habit. Its just a stupid idiotic comment that is really annoying and pathetic. totally unnecessary and unwarranted.
ok so not to get too involved here. A regular client lost his job and said he needed to sell the print. He was phoning as he intended to put it on ebay. I offered to sell it for him and didnt expect him to sell at cost when he would get more elsewhere. I am sorry if some of you find this unforgivable but it is a decision I made and feel comfortable with.
Totally understand that this is a business and is open to criticism and have no issues with that. Not keen on the idiot who said the Brp boys (especially since there is only me and sarah here) are selling pictures to fund a 'naught salt' habit. Its just a stupid idiotic comment that is really annoying and pathetic. totally unnecessary and unwarranted.
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by origo on Apr 7, 2009 15:07:53 GMT 1, Fair play BRP, I have personally always seen you as a respectable and highly helpful gallery.
But I still donยดt see the difference between the auctions on eBay that are getting slagged and this.
Peace, love and all that...
Fair play BRP, I have personally always seen you as a respectable and highly helpful gallery. But I still donยดt see the difference between the auctions on eBay that are getting slagged and this. Peace, love and all that... |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by shower on Apr 7, 2009 15:08:19 GMT 1, ok so not to get too involved here. A regular client lost his job and said he needed to sell the print. He was phoning as he intended to put it on ebay. I offered to sell it for him and didnt expect him to sell at cost when he would get more elsewhere. I am sorry if some of you find this unforgivable but it is a decision I made and feel comfortable with. Totally understand that this is a business and is open to criticism and have no issues with that. Not keen on the idiot who said the Brp boys (especially since there is only me and sarah here) are selling pictures to fund a 'naught salt' habit. Its just a stupid idiotic comment that is really annoying and pathetic. totally unnecessary and unwarranted.
fair play, cheers for explaining.
ok so not to get too involved here. A regular client lost his job and said he needed to sell the print. He was phoning as he intended to put it on ebay. I offered to sell it for him and didnt expect him to sell at cost when he would get more elsewhere. I am sorry if some of you find this unforgivable but it is a decision I made and feel comfortable with. Totally understand that this is a business and is open to criticism and have no issues with that. Not keen on the idiot who said the Brp boys (especially since there is only me and sarah here) are selling pictures to fund a 'naught salt' habit. Its just a stupid idiotic comment that is really annoying and pathetic. totally unnecessary and unwarranted. fair play, cheers for explaining. |
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 15:10:13 GMT 1, thanks for clearing that up BRP - much appreciated
possibly a point worth mulling over, is making it clear where your actions are primary or secondary so as this confusion does not arise again
thanks for clearing that up BRP - much appreciated
possibly a point worth mulling over, is making it clear where your actions are primary or secondary so as this confusion does not arise again
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Nick Walker - EMPIRE STATE, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 15:12:31 GMT 1, Good post Pandy I really worry about some people on here the amount of negativity in their lives is scary I feel really sorry for them.
why do they always want to post in that way, it's so last year
Good post Pandy I really worry about some people on here the amount of negativity in their lives is scary I feel really sorry for them. why do they always want to post in that way, it's so last year |
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I feel really sorry for them.
