neale
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by neale on Oct 5, 2009 20:22:35 GMT 1, Hope someone can help me out here, I'm hopefully about to do a trade with some one in the US, I'm in the UK, we will be trading high value prints, but no money is changing hands, my question is how does this affect import tax, can you list it as a trade or gift, but still insure for full value...basically neither of us want to get shafted for import tax, I'm still smarting from the last Hush show 
Ta for any advise, Neale
Hope someone can help me out here, I'm hopefully about to do a trade with some one in the US, I'm in the UK, we will be trading high value prints, but no money is changing hands, my question is how does this affect import tax, can you list it as a trade or gift, but still insure for full value...basically neither of us want to get shafted for import tax, I'm still smarting from the last Hush show Ta for any advise, Neale |
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by rosstierney on Oct 5, 2009 20:34:48 GMT 1, As far as I'm aware, if you want the print to be sent fully insured, you will end up paying some sort of VAT. Unless the sender has separate insurance that covers his collection during transit?
I'm pretty sure the person in the US doesn't have to worry about incurring tax.
As far as I'm aware, if you want the print to be sent fully insured, you will end up paying some sort of VAT. Unless the sender has separate insurance that covers his collection during transit?
I'm pretty sure the person in the US doesn't have to worry about incurring tax.
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neale
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by neale on Oct 5, 2009 20:36:36 GMT 1, Thanks Ross, Anyone know what the best option would be, I'm guessing trackable delivery listed as gift???
Thanks Ross, Anyone know what the best option would be, I'm guessing trackable delivery listed as gift???
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wave
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by wave on Oct 6, 2009 8:03:22 GMT 1, If you they (US) mark it up as a gift but insure it to full value, you will most likely get charged full import tax. If you don't insure it and declare value less than ยฃ30ish you'll probably be okay but it will be sqeaky bum time till it arrives. If its a small run canvas or limited edition run you may get away with only paying 5% tax. Does the person in the US know anyone travelling to UK so they could bring it? Bought my last two Banksys this way.
If you they (US) mark it up as a gift but insure it to full value, you will most likely get charged full import tax. If you don't insure it and declare value less than ยฃ30ish you'll probably be okay but it will be sqeaky bum time till it arrives. If its a small run canvas or limited edition run you may get away with only paying 5% tax. Does the person in the US know anyone travelling to UK so they could bring it? Bought my last two Banksys this way.
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eduarandres
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by eduarandres on Oct 6, 2009 9:34:15 GMT 1, buy a cheap ticket split the value in 2 and then have a 1 or 2 days holiday... ihave been to new york many times for ยฃ230 return.. dont know about other cities but it may be better if the value its too high.
i know january its too far away but its the best month for really really cheap tickets
buy a cheap ticket split the value in 2 and then have a 1 or 2 days holiday... ihave been to new york many times for ยฃ230 return.. dont know about other cities but it may be better if the value its too high.
i know january its too far away but its the best month for really really cheap tickets
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by chrisvidal on Oct 6, 2009 13:00:28 GMT 1, if you use fedex i think there is a way to declare a value but insure for more as it has no value bc it is a sample or send it as a document.... they wont open it or check it if its sent as legal documents... its against the law for them to open it... *wink* or you can find a friend in the us and him vice versa and sort it out....
if you use fedex i think there is a way to declare a value but insure for more as it has no value bc it is a sample or send it as a document.... they wont open it or check it if its sent as legal documents... its against the law for them to open it... *wink* or you can find a friend in the us and him vice versa and sort it out....
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Michael Jacob
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by Michael Jacob on Oct 6, 2009 14:00:41 GMT 1, I agree with above posts. Dont risk assigning a lower value to the prints when shipping. If it gets lost or damaged, all you will get back is what you claimed upfront. The downside to higher value, is that you will pay higher VAT. I really like eduarandres post about flying it over. Ive known a few people to do that. Its by far the safest way. Lastly, I dont think fedex (or maybe is was UPS) will insure art. Ive sent well over 100 pieces of art to the UK. The United States post office has been my safest bet. Best of luck.
I agree with above posts. Dont risk assigning a lower value to the prints when shipping. If it gets lost or damaged, all you will get back is what you claimed upfront. The downside to higher value, is that you will pay higher VAT. I really like eduarandres post about flying it over. Ive known a few people to do that. Its by far the safest way. Lastly, I dont think fedex (or maybe is was UPS) will insure art. Ive sent well over 100 pieces of art to the UK. The United States post office has been my safest bet. Best of luck.
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superman
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by superman on Oct 6, 2009 15:31:47 GMT 1, ups and parcelforce are good, i have used parcelforce once from usa. you will have to pay small amount of import tax, its not that much. good luck with everything neale.
ups and parcelforce are good, i have used parcelforce once from usa. you will have to pay small amount of import tax, its not that much. good luck with everything neale.
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neale
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by neale on Oct 6, 2009 18:29:24 GMT 1, Thanks for all the advice, which now wont be needed as other member turned out to be scamming scumbag! Luckily no art changed hands, but beware of overseas trades if no references are available
Thanks for all the advice, which now wont be needed as other member turned out to be scamming scumbag! Luckily no art changed hands, but beware of overseas trades if no references are available
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neale
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by neale on Oct 6, 2009 18:32:34 GMT 1, Forgot to say, cheers to everyone who PM'ed me to warn about this member, really appreciated...this is a great forum!!!
Forgot to say, cheers to everyone who PM'ed me to warn about this member, really appreciated...this is a great forum!!!
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neale
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by neale on Oct 6, 2009 19:41:13 GMT 1, Bump, in case he tries it on with any one else
Bump, in case he tries it on with any one else
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bert
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by bert on Oct 6, 2009 19:46:06 GMT 1, If you're warning peeps, might be useful to mention his name...or am I being dopey and not seeing it? Nice one on avoiding a potential scam by the way.
If you're warning peeps, might be useful to mention his name...or am I being dopey and not seeing it? Nice one on avoiding a potential scam by the way.
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neale
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by neale on Oct 6, 2009 19:51:27 GMT 1, Not sure you're allowed to out people, but I will say there was 'no hope' of even'1' print being traded with this member,hope that helps
Not sure you're allowed to out people, but I will say there was 'no hope' of even'1' print being traded with this member,hope that helps
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origo
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by origo on Oct 6, 2009 20:10:31 GMT 1, Surely naming a scammer would be the right thing to do, if people knows him for these kind of slimy tricks?
Could spare other members for an unpleasent deal.
Surely naming a scammer would be the right thing to do, if people knows him for these kind of slimy tricks?
Could spare other members for an unpleasent deal.
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Harveyn
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by Harveyn on Oct 6, 2009 20:11:20 GMT 1, Yeah he has been trying to do a trade with me on my WTM but his poor communication, constant disappearing and no images meant there was no way I would entertain any trade.
Yeah he has been trying to do a trade with me on my WTM but his poor communication, constant disappearing and no images meant there was no way I would entertain any trade.
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Ruggs
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by Ruggs on Oct 6, 2009 20:17:46 GMT 1, Glad you didn't get stung Neale. Phew!
Glad you didn't get stung Neale. Phew!
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superman
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by superman on Oct 6, 2009 20:19:52 GMT 1, neale who is this forum member?.
neale who is this forum member?.
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by wizzy on Oct 6, 2009 20:21:37 GMT 1, Not sure you're allowed to out people, but I will say there was 'no hope' of even'1' print being traded with this member,hope that helps
Is it Knowhope?.
Not sure you're allowed to out people, but I will say there was 'no hope' of even'1' print being traded with this member,hope that helps Is it Knowhope?. |
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by jB on Oct 6, 2009 20:25:35 GMT 1, yes, it is KNOWHOPE1 aka Greg - he was trying to work one over on me as well.
yes, it is KNOWHOPE1 aka Greg - he was trying to work one over on me as well.
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neale
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by neale on Oct 6, 2009 20:29:59 GMT 1, Not sure you're allowed to out people, but I will say there was 'no hope' of even'1' print being traded with this member,hope that helps Is it Knowhope?.
Wiz, have you thought of a career as a private investigator....you could wear a uniform.... 
Not sure you're allowed to out people, but I will say there was 'no hope' of even'1' print being traded with this member,hope that helps Is it Knowhope?. Wiz, have you thought of a career as a private investigator....you could wear a uniform.... |
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superman
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by superman on Oct 6, 2009 20:31:13 GMT 1, thanks for the heads up
thanks for the heads up
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Michael Jacob
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by Michael Jacob on Oct 6, 2009 20:48:24 GMT 1, where at in the states is he located?
where at in the states is he located?
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by manty on Oct 6, 2009 20:48:25 GMT 1, Sickens me all these people out to rip us off.
Why is it people can have more than one name on here, is it so they can scam? I cant see any other reason, so cant it be stopped, or is it a proboards limitation ?
Need a name and shame section set up, or a good guy bad guy thread
How many people have been scammed here?
This knowhope chap may of scammed a few people who have not read this thread, has he been banned, is he still here? Has a warning been put out about him?
Seriously you guys in charge need to be a little more proactive about this
Sickens me all these people out to rip us off.
Why is it people can have more than one name on here, is it so they can scam? I cant see any other reason, so cant it be stopped, or is it a proboards limitation ?
Need a name and shame section set up, or a good guy bad guy thread
How many people have been scammed here?
This knowhope chap may of scammed a few people who have not read this thread, has he been banned, is he still here? Has a warning been put out about him?
Seriously you guys in charge need to be a little more proactive about this
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Zippy
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by Zippy on Oct 6, 2009 21:01:31 GMT 1, I was 'supposedly' doing a deal with him on my Micallef prints.
twice i gave him my e-mail addy but he never contacted me.
I was 'supposedly' doing a deal with him on my Micallef prints.
twice i gave him my e-mail addy but he never contacted me.
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 21:04:25 GMT 1, hes online now anything to say haisurf/knowhope1??
yeah, do you want to trade? 
hes online now anything to say haisurf/knowhope1?? yeah, do you want to trade? |
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by manty on Oct 6, 2009 21:04:32 GMT 1, I dont agree Biggie, and I promise it wasnt a pop at you, but Silky or the mods should be able to send a mass pm everyone to warn about the flaws of dealing on this forum, and warn all members about this current scammer chap.
There maybe 2 or 3 people set to go to the post-office tomorrow to send something of value to this tosser who have not read this thread
How hard can it be to do ?
I dont agree Biggie, and I promise it wasnt a pop at you, but Silky or the mods should be able to send a mass pm everyone to warn about the flaws of dealing on this forum, and warn all members about this current scammer chap.
There maybe 2 or 3 people set to go to the post-office tomorrow to send something of value to this tosser who have not read this thread
How hard can it be to do ?
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by wizzy on Oct 6, 2009 21:04:34 GMT 1, i did mention this guy to mods and bumped the haisurf thread, not much else you can do!!
True, Bigman did tell me. I did ask the Top Brass but it showed no connection with IP addresses etc. for the accounts.
i did mention this guy to mods and bumped the haisurf thread, not much else you can do!! True, Bigman did tell me. I did ask the Top Brass but it showed no connection with IP addresses etc. for the accounts. |
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Harveyn
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by Harveyn on Oct 6, 2009 21:16:06 GMT 1, I am pretty sure that banning rights and mass emails/pms can only be done by Silky.
I am also pretty sure when he picks up on this the necessary action will be taken. I will drop him a pm with the details I have.
I am pretty sure that banning rights and mass emails/pms can only be done by Silky.
I am also pretty sure when he picks up on this the necessary action will be taken. I will drop him a pm with the details I have.
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by jB on Oct 6, 2009 21:27:46 GMT 1, where at in the states is he located?
Dallas I believe
where at in the states is he located? Dallas I believe |
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Zippy
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Trade with member in USA be WARNED , by Zippy on Oct 6, 2009 21:33:32 GMT 1, Is it JR or Bobby?
Is it JR or Bobby?
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