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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by notworthit on Nov 3, 2009 0:00:13 GMT 1, No way I'd be shelling out 300 quid on this. They'll be 200 on ebay in no time (if they show up in the first place!). JSG got kicked of Obey forum AGAIN yesterday!! Just too dodgy.
No way I'd be shelling out 300 quid on this. They'll be 200 on ebay in no time (if they show up in the first place!). JSG got kicked of Obey forum AGAIN yesterday!! Just too dodgy.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 0:03:34 GMT 1, I'm in two minds, I really like it in one respect but something is stopping me from pulling the trigger.
It was the most popular/spoken about image at the show, but the fact it's not really going anywhere says either the works at that show had more a novelty value than any real depth (novelty runs out quickly) or this image was just the 'best of a bad bunch'...
Pure speculation of course and not an opinion I hold personally.
I'm in two minds, I really like it in one respect but something is stopping me from pulling the trigger.
It was the most popular/spoken about image at the show, but the fact it's not really going anywhere says either the works at that show had more a novelty value than any real depth (novelty runs out quickly) or this image was just the 'best of a bad bunch'...
Pure speculation of course and not an opinion I hold personally.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by meatbag on Nov 3, 2009 0:27:13 GMT 1, silky you do see good in people to a fault I suppose, but this guy is not one of good ones and as much as I'd love to pull the trigger on this I'm not knowing that toolbag is part of it. That just ruins it for me. For anyone who goes for it.. good luck. I wonder who owns the original because this piece was sold long before opening night. Maybe D hooked someone up.
silky you do see good in people to a fault I suppose, but this guy is not one of good ones and as much as I'd love to pull the trigger on this I'm not knowing that toolbag is part of it. That just ruins it for me. For anyone who goes for it.. good luck. I wonder who owns the original because this piece was sold long before opening night. Maybe D hooked someone up.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by love on Nov 3, 2009 0:45:50 GMT 1, Iwill pass on this one, i loved the punk queen but i can't imagine a simpsons part on my wall.
Iwill pass on this one, i loved the punk queen but i can't imagine a simpsons part on my wall.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by fielder on Nov 3, 2009 10:00:07 GMT 1, I think this would have gone if it didn't have the weak typography at the top - completely ruins it. I agree...would have bought it immediately without the typography...def ruins it for me
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I think this would have gone if it didn't have the weak typography at the top - completely ruins it. I agree...would have bought it immediately without the typography...def ruins it for me +1 |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by Cocteau 101 on Nov 3, 2009 17:51:28 GMT 1, D's involved, in fact he's in LA as rumoured so for those that have doubts this may be a little more reassuring.
D's involved, in fact he's in LA as rumoured so for those that have doubts this may be a little more reassuring.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by burntcandy on Nov 3, 2009 18:32:33 GMT 1, No way I'd be shelling out 300 quid on this. They'll be 200 on ebay in no time (if they show up in the first place!). JSG got kicked of Obey forum AGAIN yesterday!! Just too dodgy.
Oh really?
What for, ripping people off from before or again?
No way I'd be shelling out 300 quid on this. They'll be 200 on ebay in no time (if they show up in the first place!). JSG got kicked of Obey forum AGAIN yesterday!! Just too dodgy. Oh really? What for, ripping people off from before or again? |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by burntcandy on Nov 3, 2009 18:46:06 GMT 1, ahhhh I see now..
forum.thegiant.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14192
Nasty nasty mr Legal letter face Daniel...... should have been a good boy in the first place shouldn't you.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by jimbo73 on Nov 3, 2009 23:48:25 GMT 1, still up.. ed. of only 100.. this is surprising, for me at least.. as seems to be the case with a lot of d*face prints there are a lot of proofs too. edition of 100 with 28 proofs...
That will be the numbered proofs. God only knows how many un-numbered ones he will be punting through Stolen Space as he did with the Pop Tarts.
Then there are the PP's, gift prints etc etc etc....
still up.. ed. of only 100.. this is surprising, for me at least.. as seems to be the case with a lot of d*face prints there are a lot of proofs too. edition of 100 with 28 proofs... That will be the numbered proofs. God only knows how many un-numbered ones he will be punting through Stolen Space as he did with the Pop Tarts. Then there are the PP's, gift prints etc etc etc.... |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by grantb on Nov 4, 2009 0:11:12 GMT 1, if this was through another gallery would of it sold out ? or isit down to the image/price etc
if this was through another gallery would of it sold out ? or isit down to the image/price etc
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2009 0:38:27 GMT 1, It all measures down to...
Over 100 people liking this image enough to frame it (its to big to be kept in folder).
Over 100 people having the cash to afford the hefty framing.
Over 100 people having a wall big enough to house it.
Over 100 people trusting it will get here from the states in one piece.
Over 100 people trusting it will get here at all.
The odds are well against this selling out quick me thinks...
It all measures down to...
Over 100 people liking this image enough to frame it (its to big to be kept in folder).
Over 100 people having the cash to afford the hefty framing.
Over 100 people having a wall big enough to house it.
Over 100 people trusting it will get here from the states in one piece.
Over 100 people trusting it will get here at all.
The odds are well against this selling out quick me thinks...
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by howies on Nov 4, 2009 4:04:07 GMT 1, I really like the image but after reading all the Drama with Jetset I just can't bring myself to pay for the idea that this could go all wrong. I have carted this 3 times now and then my better judgement takes over and I drop it, D*face should list them thru his own site and they would have all gone by now
I really like the image but after reading all the Drama with Jetset I just can't bring myself to pay for the idea that this could go all wrong. I have carted this 3 times now and then my better judgement takes over and I drop it, D*face should list them thru his own site and they would have all gone by now
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by packet on Nov 4, 2009 6:02:54 GMT 1, I really like the image but after reading all the Drama with Jetset I just can't bring myself to pay for the idea that this could go all wrong. I have carted this 3 times now and then my better judgement takes over and I drop it, D*face should list them thru his own site and they would have all gone by now
I've been doing the same thing. I like the print, but I'm not about to support JSG after everything I've heard about the outfit. Looks like I'll save the cash for the next Banksy print.
I really like the image but after reading all the Drama with Jetset I just can't bring myself to pay for the idea that this could go all wrong. I have carted this 3 times now and then my better judgement takes over and I drop it, D*face should list them thru his own site and they would have all gone by now I've been doing the same thing. I like the print, but I'm not about to support JSG after everything I've heard about the outfit. Looks like I'll save the cash for the next Banksy print. |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by burntcandy on Nov 4, 2009 6:48:02 GMT 1, Why the fuck would you do a print with someone that no one trusts?
It confuses me.
Why the fuck would you do a print with someone that no one trusts?
It confuses me.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by Grubster on Nov 4, 2009 7:23:29 GMT 1, Why the f**k would you do a print with someone that no one trusts? It confuses me.
yea, i don't understand the need for Dface to release through JSG... he has so many credible contacts in the states. Hopefully they will do a coke riot through BRP or someone else.
Why the f**k would you do a print with someone that no one trusts? It confuses me. yea, i don't understand the need for Dface to release through JSG... he has so many credible contacts in the states. Hopefully they will do a coke riot through BRP or someone else. |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by burntcandy on Nov 4, 2009 8:10:18 GMT 1, Jonathan Levine for instance.
Jonathan Levine for instance.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2009 15:16:50 GMT 1, still up?
still up?
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by nex on Nov 4, 2009 15:30:51 GMT 1, It all measures down to... Over 100 people liking this image enough to frame it (its to big to be kept in folder). Over 100 people having the cash to afford the hefty framing. Over 100 people having a wall big enough to house it. Over 100 people trusting it will get here from the states in one piece. Over 100 people trusting it will get here at all. The odds are well against this selling out quick me thinks... Even D*s weakest images sell out quick, this was one of the most popular images from the show...I think it's a much bigger issue of trusting the seller than the image, image size, or framing.
I have to wholeheartedly disagree with this being a strong image, you ever slooshed coke/pepsi around in your mouth for a minute? Well this print is like that, sweet and addictive for the instant rush. once that subsides you're left with an emotionless shyte tasting embodiement of manipulation and marketing
the cold hard truth at the centre of this, it would have sold out if the majority of purchasers thought it was worth more on the secondary market, therefore making it a worthy investment, all the talk of framing costs etc etc would only be relevant to a small handful in reality
It all measures down to... Over 100 people liking this image enough to frame it (its to big to be kept in folder). Over 100 people having the cash to afford the hefty framing. Over 100 people having a wall big enough to house it. Over 100 people trusting it will get here from the states in one piece. Over 100 people trusting it will get here at all. The odds are well against this selling out quick me thinks... Even D*s weakest images sell out quick, this was one of the most popular images from the show...I think it's a much bigger issue of trusting the seller than the image, image size, or framing. I have to wholeheartedly disagree with this being a strong image, you ever slooshed coke/pepsi around in your mouth for a minute? Well this print is like that, sweet and addictive for the instant rush. once that subsides you're left with an emotionless shyte tasting embodiement of manipulation and marketing the cold hard truth at the centre of this, it would have sold out if the majority of purchasers thought it was worth more on the secondary market, therefore making it a worthy investment, all the talk of framing costs etc etc would only be relevant to a small handful in reality |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by nex on Nov 4, 2009 15:51:17 GMT 1, print and originals markets are completely different beasts and can't be compared at all. Maybe they would have maybe they wouldn't have sold out, i'd suggest that the last sold out dface release the truly awful punk queen thing was the nail in d's fast selling releases as can be seen by the number flipped and the amounts these went for
print and originals markets are completely different beasts and can't be compared at all. Maybe they would have maybe they wouldn't have sold out, i'd suggest that the last sold out dface release the truly awful punk queen thing was the nail in d's fast selling releases as can be seen by the number flipped and the amounts these went for
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by nex on Nov 4, 2009 16:01:08 GMT 1, yep i'd agree and one of the reasons, this forum is much quieter these days (apart from when there's a Banksy release)
yep i'd agree and one of the reasons, this forum is much quieter these days (apart from when there's a Banksy release)
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by goaty on Nov 4, 2009 16:20:39 GMT 1, print and originals markets are completely different beasts and can't be compared at all. Maybe they would have maybe they wouldn't have sold out, i'd suggest that the last sold out dface release the truly awful punk queen thing was the nail in d's fast selling releases as can be seen by the number flipped and the amounts these went for Well then, you could say that for all artists in this genre right now except Banksy, the secondary market is pretty much in the toilet for the most part and I dont think that is specific to D* but if you have other examples (other than banksy of course) in which a recent print has done well on the secondary market then I'm all ears.
I'd probably say that certain Nick Walker prints have a secondary market. TMA Empire State released Jan 2009 @ ยฃ500, now selling for ยฃ1500.
print and originals markets are completely different beasts and can't be compared at all. Maybe they would have maybe they wouldn't have sold out, i'd suggest that the last sold out dface release the truly awful punk queen thing was the nail in d's fast selling releases as can be seen by the number flipped and the amounts these went for Well then, you could say that for all artists in this genre right now except Banksy, the secondary market is pretty much in the toilet for the most part and I dont think that is specific to D* but if you have other examples (other than banksy of course) in which a recent print has done well on the secondary market then I'm all ears. I'd probably say that certain Nick Walker prints have a secondary market. TMA Empire State released Jan 2009 @ ยฃ500, now selling for ยฃ1500. |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by G-Man on Nov 4, 2009 17:00:02 GMT 1, Just a quick post to thank all of you that posted warnings on this print on this thread
+1
Just a quick post to thank all of you that posted warnings on this print on this thread
+1
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by Daniel Silk on Nov 4, 2009 17:42:05 GMT 1, Yeah, would be nice to see some close ups of the print  and a few shots to give people a better idea of the size.
Yeah, would be nice to see some close ups of the print and a few shots to give people a better idea of the size. |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by goaty on Nov 4, 2009 17:48:47 GMT 1, Even so, people were flipping the Empire State prints for ยฃ1200 straight after buying them and the climate then was probably worse than right now.
The two things that's stopped people flipping is that there have been no strong images released as prints. The black/red ones Nick released at the BRP show - not very strong, latest Punk Queens by D - not very strong, Faile - Flag, it's a flag.
The second is that the prices for the said artists prints have increased.
Even so, people were flipping the Empire State prints for ยฃ1200 straight after buying them and the climate then was probably worse than right now.
The two things that's stopped people flipping is that there have been no strong images released as prints. The black/red ones Nick released at the BRP show - not very strong, latest Punk Queens by D - not very strong, Faile - Flag, it's a flag.
The second is that the prices for the said artists prints have increased.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by Photoxtc on Nov 4, 2009 17:56:28 GMT 1, There are a few of things that would help to ease the mind so I can buy one of there. First D*Face make a post on his own website about the print to prove its genuine. Secondly get some photos of the actual prints posted not just an image. Finally get some prints sent out quickly so at least maybe there might be some posts on here from successful buyers and some pics of the print
I'm one of the buyers and in theory should be one of the first to get a print being that I am just outside of LA (I'll be sure and post picts)... I thought I read somewhere that these are to ship within 48 hrs of drop???
Needless to say I am a little worried with all of the past dealings of JSG coming to light and none that I've read or heard so far have been positive... So hoping for the best 
And from what I hear, D* says we should all be pretty amazed by this print and it's quality... Fingers crossed!!!
There are a few of things that would help to ease the mind so I can buy one of there. First D*Face make a post on his own website about the print to prove its genuine. Secondly get some photos of the actual prints posted not just an image. Finally get some prints sent out quickly so at least maybe there might be some posts on here from successful buyers and some pics of the print I'm one of the buyers and in theory should be one of the first to get a print being that I am just outside of LA (I'll be sure and post picts)... I thought I read somewhere that these are to ship within 48 hrs of drop??? Needless to say I am a little worried with all of the past dealings of JSG coming to light and none that I've read or heard so far have been positive... So hoping for the best And from what I hear, D* says we should all be pretty amazed by this print and it's quality... Fingers crossed!!! |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by nex on Nov 4, 2009 18:11:16 GMT 1, And from what I hear, D* says we should all be pretty amazed by this print and it's quality... Fingers crossed!!! i'd be mighty surprised if he said anything but this to be frank  anyway good luck Photo hope there's no issues with the purchase
And from what I hear, D* says we should all be pretty amazed by this print and it's quality... Fingers crossed!!! i'd be mighty surprised if he said anything but this to be frank anyway good luck Photo hope there's no issues with the purchase |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by sand on Nov 4, 2009 20:49:25 GMT 1, now showing as sold out.
now showing as sold out.
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by maadbeats on Nov 4, 2009 21:12:22 GMT 1,
Now showing available again. I hate when this crap goes on.
Although its probably a great technique to rope in a couple sales
Now showing available again. I hate when this crap goes on. Although its probably a great technique to rope in a couple sales |
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by G-Man on Nov 4, 2009 23:06:56 GMT 1, maybe not
i cancelled my order
mrs G just bought a very tasty Mr Jago canvas instead
maybe not
i cancelled my order
mrs G just bought a very tasty Mr Jago canvas instead
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DFace โข UnAmerican Graffiti, by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 23:15:49 GMT 1, I heard a lot of people not liking the "More Punk Than You Punk"...well I really like it, got the orange, and when it comes to Unamerican Graffiti, I would not put it on my wall...not finding anything good to say. Ok, the Queen is a return to old Dface stuff but hey...that works.
I heard a lot of people not liking the "More Punk Than You Punk"...well I really like it, got the orange, and when it comes to Unamerican Graffiti, I would not put it on my wall...not finding anything good to say. Ok, the Queen is a return to old Dface stuff but hey...that works.
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and a few shots to give people a better idea of the size.
