olapig
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by olapig on Dec 16, 2009 14:35:41 GMT 1, Grafik, Have a Z 2007/M 2008 sub date's available. Unless your after a no date sub? Should have a bnib 2008, all seals in place next week. Pm me if there is a particular sub date your after. Probably been asked before but is this ^^^^ FatherXmas's new monicker? The grammar is better but that would be expected after another year or two at school.
;D good to see you back Donaldo
Grafik, Have a Z 2007/M 2008 sub date's available. Unless your after a no date sub? Should have a bnib 2008, all seals in place next week. Pm me if there is a particular sub date your after. Probably been asked before but is this ^^^^ FatherXmas's new monicker? The grammar is better but that would be expected after another year or two at school. ;D good to see you back Donaldo
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 14:52:03 GMT 1, Ronhill you seem quite bitter? Im not like lemon, im far sweeter You do know that what ever you buy something the person your buying it from has a mark up yes? cos it seems your under the impression that this is not the case. not everything on the secondary has a mark up, most used items make a substantial loss, but, im sure your talking about luxury goods (rolex) and art (banksy prints), as this seems to be your chosen field of expertise. Anyway, Im not getting into a conversation about buying and selling. end of.
Majority of luxury items do not fall in a recession, some people are weather proof to this. Not many rolex's are commanding premiums, the green glass milgauss was and at some stage selling for 50% mark up. Daytonas i think are starting to lose there appeal but again if your in the market for a ยฃ6k watch another 600/800 premium is peanuts. Cars as well, reventon lamborghini's would command a big premium, as far as im aware there is only 1 in the uk and in nottingham. From speaking to the chap he has his reventon roadster coming very soon (supplied by nottingham lamborghini) The 458 ferrari which will replace the 430 currently has 20k premiums on them as ell as the f60, replacement of the enzo ยฃ100k plus and nothing has even been announced, just brokers taking a punt.
Ronhill you seem quite bitter? Im not like lemon, im far sweeter You do know that what ever you buy something the person your buying it from has a mark up yes? cos it seems your under the impression that this is not the case. not everything on the secondary has a mark up, most used items make a substantial loss, but, im sure your talking about luxury goods (rolex) and art (banksy prints), as this seems to be your chosen field of expertise. Anyway, Im not getting into a conversation about buying and selling. end of. Majority of luxury items do not fall in a recession, some people are weather proof to this. Not many rolex's are commanding premiums, the green glass milgauss was and at some stage selling for 50% mark up. Daytonas i think are starting to lose there appeal but again if your in the market for a ยฃ6k watch another 600/800 premium is peanuts. Cars as well, reventon lamborghini's would command a big premium, as far as im aware there is only 1 in the uk and in nottingham. From speaking to the chap he has his reventon roadster coming very soon (supplied by nottingham lamborghini) The 458 ferrari which will replace the 430 currently has 20k premiums on them as ell as the f60, replacement of the enzo ยฃ100k plus and nothing has even been announced, just brokers taking a punt.
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 14:53:51 GMT 1, Grafik, Have a Z 2007/M 2008 sub date's available. Unless your after a no date sub? Should have a bnib 2008, all seals in place next week. Pm me if there is a particular sub date your after. Probably been asked before but is this ^^^^ FatherXmas's new monicker? The grammar is better but that would be expected after another year or two at school.
Would love to know him, then it'll be christmas all year round and constant supply of presents. But to the question, Im not father christmas, if only
Grafik, Have a Z 2007/M 2008 sub date's available. Unless your after a no date sub? Should have a bnib 2008, all seals in place next week. Pm me if there is a particular sub date your after. Probably been asked before but is this ^^^^ FatherXmas's new monicker? The grammar is better but that would be expected after another year or two at school. Would love to know him, then it'll be christmas all year round and constant supply of presents. But to the question, Im not father christmas, if only
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dodge
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by dodge on Dec 16, 2009 15:08:39 GMT 1, This board is plumbing new depths. It almost resembles some sort of commodity forum rather than an art one.
This board is plumbing new depths. It almost resembles some sort of commodity forum rather than an art one.
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grafik
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by grafik on Dec 16, 2009 15:12:02 GMT 1, not everything on the secondary has a mark up, most used items make a substantial loss, but, im sure your talking about luxury goods (rolex) and art (banksy prints), as this seems to be your chosen field of expertise. Anyway, Im not getting into a conversation about buying and selling. end of. Majority of luxury items do not fall in a recession, some people are weather proof to this. Not many rolex's are commanding premiums, the green glass milgauss was and at some stage selling for 50% mark up. Daytonas i think are starting to lose there appeal but again if your in the market for a ยฃ6k watch another 600/800 premium is peanuts. Cars as well, reventon lamborghini's would command a big premium, as far as im aware there is only 1 in the uk and in nottingham. From speaking to the chap he has his reventon roadster coming very soon (supplied by nottingham lamborghini) The 458 ferrari which will replace the 430 currently has 20k premiums on them as ell as the f60, replacement of the enzo ยฃ100k plus and nothing has even been announced, just brokers taking a punt.
someone on pistonheads too.
Edd hicks dad has the lambo.
not everything on the secondary has a mark up, most used items make a substantial loss, but, im sure your talking about luxury goods (rolex) and art (banksy prints), as this seems to be your chosen field of expertise. Anyway, Im not getting into a conversation about buying and selling. end of. Majority of luxury items do not fall in a recession, some people are weather proof to this. Not many rolex's are commanding premiums, the green glass milgauss was and at some stage selling for 50% mark up. Daytonas i think are starting to lose there appeal but again if your in the market for a ยฃ6k watch another 600/800 premium is peanuts. Cars as well, reventon lamborghini's would command a big premium, as far as im aware there is only 1 in the uk and in nottingham. From speaking to the chap he has his reventon roadster coming very soon (supplied by nottingham lamborghini) The 458 ferrari which will replace the 430 currently has 20k premiums on them as ell as the f60, replacement of the enzo ยฃ100k plus and nothing has even been announced, just brokers taking a punt. someone on pistonheads too. Edd hicks dad has the lambo.
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nah
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by nah on Dec 16, 2009 15:17:51 GMT 1, Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board, no names mentioned, but you'll be surprised to know how many of the so called well respected members are "leeches" in regards to selling prints within a few days of being sold out.
truth
Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board, no names mentioned, but you'll be surprised to know how many of the so called well respected members are "leeches" in regards to selling prints within a few days of being sold out. truth
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spirit
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by spirit on Dec 16, 2009 15:20:22 GMT 1, Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board...
I for one couldn't give a toss...
Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board... I for one couldn't give a toss...
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darrenrapley
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by darrenrapley on Dec 16, 2009 15:29:07 GMT 1, Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board... I for one couldn't give a toss...
What he said
Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board... I for one couldn't give a toss... What he said
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Fragile
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by Fragile on Dec 16, 2009 15:37:51 GMT 1, love your avatar Darren!
love your avatar Darren!
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darrenrapley
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by darrenrapley on Dec 16, 2009 15:39:24 GMT 1, Trying to be festive. Even Phil Spector isn't doing it for me yet!
Trying to be festive. Even Phil Spector isn't doing it for me yet!
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curiousgeorge
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by curiousgeorge on Dec 16, 2009 15:56:07 GMT 1, This board is plumbing new depths. It almost resembles some sort of commodity forum rather than an art one.
This!
For the most part this place has always been a collective of people with a passion for Art.
You lot go against everything this genre of Art has stood for, and very likely dragging it down on the way.Still as long as you make a profit....
For what it's worth each and every time post, i cringe a little bit more.Selling directly shows just how 2 bit you really are, if you were smart you would......
This board is plumbing new depths. It almost resembles some sort of commodity forum rather than an art one. This! For the most part this place has always been a collective of people with a passion for Art. You lot go against everything this genre of Art has stood for, and very likely dragging it down on the way.Still as long as you make a profit.... For what it's worth each and every time post, i cringe a little bit more.Selling directly shows just how 2 bit you really are, if you were smart you would......
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olapig
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by olapig on Dec 16, 2009 16:14:38 GMT 1, True George,
I must say that since I have been on this forum it has rapidly gone downhill and seems to be more about money than art, this Banksy release has seen more new or small post members justifying buying to sell than any other release I have known to date. I don't think it helps when a day after release established members post wtb new Banksy willing to pay ยฃ1200 ยฃ1500 or whatever, it just encourages more flipping. Flippers get their information from the forum then sell to the same members that gave them the information in the first place.
True George,
I must say that since I have been on this forum it has rapidly gone downhill and seems to be more about money than art, this Banksy release has seen more new or small post members justifying buying to sell than any other release I have known to date. I don't think it helps when a day after release established members post wtb new Banksy willing to pay ยฃ1200 ยฃ1500 or whatever, it just encourages more flipping. Flippers get their information from the forum then sell to the same members that gave them the information in the first place.
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brun
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by brun on Dec 16, 2009 16:45:11 GMT 1, how much is a rolex anyway ? i got three cartrains to flip ?
how much is a rolex anyway ? i got three cartrains to flip ?
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nex
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by nex on Dec 16, 2009 16:48:19 GMT 1, True George, I must say that since I have been on this forum it has rapidly gone downhill and seems to be more about money than art, Flippers get their information from the forum
good points
True George, I must say that since I have been on this forum it has rapidly gone downhill and seems to be more about money than art, Flippers get their information from the forum good points
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Martin Whatson
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by Martin Whatson on Dec 16, 2009 16:53:58 GMT 1, I think it's about time for banksy and POW to raise their prices. Selling theese prints for ยฃ750-ยฃ1000 from source would scare off the many of the flippers. And it will still be a good price for a Banksy print. The prices has actually gotten lower since trolleys. And smaller editions.
But to be fair. Someone else flipped this print to DV for a rolex first. But it would be decent of them to wait wait a couple of weeks before selling it on again.
I think it's about time for banksy and POW to raise their prices. Selling theese prints for ยฃ750-ยฃ1000 from source would scare off the many of the flippers. And it will still be a good price for a Banksy print. The prices has actually gotten lower since trolleys. And smaller editions.
But to be fair. Someone else flipped this print to DV for a rolex first. But it would be decent of them to wait wait a couple of weeks before selling it on again.
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nex
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by nex on Dec 16, 2009 16:56:20 GMT 1, sorry whatson couldn't agree less - Banksy makes a point of selling these low to give the common man a chance to own a print - and I say fair play to him
sorry whatson couldn't agree less - Banksy makes a point of selling these low to give the common man a chance to own a print - and I say fair play to him
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:12:58 GMT 1, I think it's about time for banksy and POW to raise their prices. Selling theese prints for ยฃ750-ยฃ1000 from source would scare off the many of the flippers. And it will still be a good price for a Banksy print. The prices has actually gotten lower since trolleys. And smaller editions. But to be fair. Someone else flipped this print to DV for a rolex first. But it would be decent of them to wait wait a couple of weeks before selling it on again.
I have always said, do what dface etc have done, put up prices to deter flippers. Simple
If prints were ยฃ1000+ flippers would be scared to get there fingers burnt.
Personally im all for prices going up, if peopel are paying ยฃ750 for a d*face print, people must be willing to pay at least ยฃ1000/ยฃ1250 or even ยฃ1500 for a print
I think it's about time for banksy and POW to raise their prices. Selling theese prints for ยฃ750-ยฃ1000 from source would scare off the many of the flippers. And it will still be a good price for a Banksy print. The prices has actually gotten lower since trolleys. And smaller editions. But to be fair. Someone else flipped this print to DV for a rolex first. But it would be decent of them to wait wait a couple of weeks before selling it on again. I have always said, do what dface etc have done, put up prices to deter flippers. Simple If prints were ยฃ1000+ flippers would be scared to get there fingers burnt. Personally im all for prices going up, if peopel are paying ยฃ750 for a d*face print, people must be willing to pay at least ยฃ1000/ยฃ1250 or even ยฃ1500 for a print
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:18:27 GMT 1, sorry whatson couldn't agree less - Banksy makes a point of selling these low to give the common man a chance to own a print - and I say fair play to him
I agree to a point on this but you have to also consider that if banksy did do a release at say ยฃ1250 and it didnt sell out. It wouldnt look good for him? Banksy prints DID NOT SELL OUT!
Why do you think he is doing smaller runs now (possibly worried he might sell out a 750 run), in the boom times(2007-upto middle of 2008) 750 print run, signed and in the down turn runs of 299-250
Like anything he needs to have a buzz round him, flippers help drive a market, no flippers no interest. Look at d*face, flippers have dropped there shoulder to him now, worst thing he did imo is push prices to high meaning no meat on the bone for so called "flippers" Every new release we're buying for under cost
sorry whatson couldn't agree less - Banksy makes a point of selling these low to give the common man a chance to own a print - and I say fair play to him I agree to a point on this but you have to also consider that if banksy did do a release at say ยฃ1250 and it didnt sell out. It wouldnt look good for him? Banksy prints DID NOT SELL OUT! Why do you think he is doing smaller runs now (possibly worried he might sell out a 750 run), in the boom times(2007-upto middle of 2008) 750 print run, signed and in the down turn runs of 299-250 Like anything he needs to have a buzz round him, flippers help drive a market, no flippers no interest. Look at d*face, flippers have dropped there shoulder to him now, worst thing he did imo is push prices to high meaning no meat on the bone for so called "flippers" Every new release we're buying for under cost
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by Daniel Silk on Dec 16, 2009 17:22:26 GMT 1, As it was said by somebody the other day, it appears they actually want the prints to be resold for much higher amounts than the original cost to keep Banksy's market and demand up!
Putting the price up to around ยฃ1,500 could be a risky thing to do
As it was said by somebody the other day, it appears they actually want the prints to be resold for much higher amounts than the original cost to keep Banksy's market and demand up! Putting the price up to around ยฃ1,500 could be a risky thing to do
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by grantb on Dec 16, 2009 17:26:16 GMT 1, what ever you do banksy will sell out. can we stop tlking about al this flipping shit.
for godsake.
what ever you do banksy will sell out. can we stop tlking about al this flipping shit.
for godsake.
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:27:02 GMT 1, As it was said by somebody the other day, it appears they actually want the prints to be resold for much higher amounts than the original cost to keep Banksy's market and demand up! Putting the price up to around ยฃ1,500 could be a risky thing to do
Silky you said what i wanted to say in less than 3 lines.... THANK YOU
As it was said by somebody the other day, it appears they actually want the prints to be resold for much higher amounts than the original cost to keep Banksy's market and demand up! Putting the price up to around ยฃ1,500 could be a risky thing to do Silky you said what i wanted to say in less than 3 lines.... THANK YOU
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by notworthit on Dec 16, 2009 17:28:12 GMT 1, I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it.
I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it.
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:33:53 GMT 1, Well i dont mean to be rude but i might have to be. Youve been part of this forum 2009 april and cg 2007, "urban bloody art" or we use to call it graffiti has been around longer than the 2 years you've been part of this forum. Please dont judge us, nor expect us to comment on everything that is talked about. No matter what we say, we'll always be looked at "you just want to flip this" so just like a few of the other galleries on the site we try and stay quite neutral but every now and again we have to put our foot down and get our voice across. I can go back to the days of the owner, black and chrome living in kilburn, bombin every wall with DAZ and DDS-ZONK/ZOMBY/COS smashin up all the train yards from north london to south london (christmas day was a special day to them ;D ) So if anything, im sure us as a collective, we could teach you a thing or too and for the record when i was down POW on friday night for over an hour, we got speaking to a few people, some of which have got on this bandwagon because it's the "in thing" So once again, at least we were at graffiti 10-15 years ago unlike many
Well i dont mean to be rude but i might have to be. Youve been part of this forum 2009 april and cg 2007, "urban bloody art" or we use to call it graffiti has been around longer than the 2 years you've been part of this forum. Please dont judge us, nor expect us to comment on everything that is talked about. No matter what we say, we'll always be looked at "you just want to flip this" so just like a few of the other galleries on the site we try and stay quite neutral but every now and again we have to put our foot down and get our voice across. I can go back to the days of the owner, black and chrome living in kilburn, bombin every wall with DAZ and DDS-ZONK/ZOMBY/COS smashin up all the train yards from north london to south london (christmas day was a special day to them ;D ) So if anything, im sure us as a collective, we could teach you a thing or too and for the record when i was down POW on friday night for over an hour, we got speaking to a few people, some of which have got on this bandwagon because it's the "in thing" So once again, at least we were at graffiti 10-15 years ago unlike many
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by Daniel Silk on Dec 16, 2009 17:37:12 GMT 1, I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it.
Lead by example!
I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it. Lead by example!
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jaimesl
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by jaimesl on Dec 16, 2009 17:40:08 GMT 1, DV - you say one thing and do the opposite.
A bit like a comedian, telling everyone he's funny... try telling a few jokes
(it's a metaphor before you start getting too excited).
If you're the real deal (as you claim)... start acting it.
Well i dont mean to be rude but i might have to be. Youve been part of this forum 2009 april and cg 2007, "urban bloody art" or we use to call it graffiti has been around longer than the 2 years you've been part of this forum. Please dont judge us, nor expect us to comment on everything that is talked about. No matter what we say, we'll always be looked at "you just want to flip this" so just like a few of the other galleries on the site we try and stay quite neutral but every now and again we have to put our foot down and get our voice across. I can go back the days of the owner black and chrome living in kilburn, bombin every wall with DAZ and DDS-ZONK/ZOMBY/COS smashin up all the train yards from north london to south london. So if anything im sure us as a collective could teach you a thing or too.
DV - you say one thing and do the opposite. A bit like a comedian, telling everyone he's funny... try telling a few jokes (it's a metaphor before you start getting too excited). If you're the real deal (as you claim)... start acting it. Well i dont mean to be rude but i might have to be. Youve been part of this forum 2009 april and cg 2007, "urban bloody art" or we use to call it graffiti has been around longer than the 2 years you've been part of this forum. Please dont judge us, nor expect us to comment on everything that is talked about. No matter what we say, we'll always be looked at "you just want to flip this" so just like a few of the other galleries on the site we try and stay quite neutral but every now and again we have to put our foot down and get our voice across. I can go back the days of the owner black and chrome living in kilburn, bombin every wall with DAZ and DDS-ZONK/ZOMBY/COS smashin up all the train yards from north london to south london. So if anything im sure us as a collective could teach you a thing or too.
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by Daniel Silk on Dec 16, 2009 17:43:55 GMT 1, Lead by Example!
One post about flipping or whatever, followed by pages of people moaning and bitchin If you dont like it why promote the thread and go over and over it again and again. Just leave it and move on to threads you do like and do enjoy! Simples!
Happy Christmas! ;D
Lead by Example! One post about flipping or whatever, followed by pages of people moaning and bitchin If you dont like it why promote the thread and go over and over it again and again. Just leave it and move on to threads you do like and do enjoy! Simples! Happy Christmas! ;D
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:44:18 GMT 1, I have no idea what your on about james.
I have no idea what your on about james.
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by snausages on Dec 16, 2009 17:54:50 GMT 1, I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it. Lead by example! Exactly. Forum seems to be about arguing and rumors by the looks of things. Anyway, of course the forum is also about "buying and selling" or there wouldn't be a section dedicated to it.
I don't care what people do with their prints, but the shitty thing here, is that this person (or people) have apparently taken advantage of someone by buying their print and reselling it at a higher value.
I know it's a free world/market, but I've sold a few prints to forum members ove rthe years and I always have given a slightly better rate than the things were selling for on ebay. And it is rather shitty when I see the buyer exploit my kindness for financial gain. But I guess it takes all types.
I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it. Lead by example! Exactly. Forum seems to be about arguing and rumors by the looks of things. Anyway, of course the forum is also about "buying and selling" or there wouldn't be a section dedicated to it. I don't care what people do with their prints, but the shitty thing here, is that this person (or people) have apparently taken advantage of someone by buying their print and reselling it at a higher value. I know it's a free world/market, but I've sold a few prints to forum members ove rthe years and I always have given a slightly better rate than the things were selling for on ebay. And it is rather shitty when I see the buyer exploit my kindness for financial gain. But I guess it takes all types.
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by snausages on Dec 16, 2009 17:57:36 GMT 1, I agree to a point on this but you have to also consider that if banksy did do a release at say ยฃ1250 and it didnt sell out. It wouldnt look good for him? Also, this is bunk, an artists career doesn't depend on how many print jockeys are F5ing for a simple screenprint.
I agree to a point on this but you have to also consider that if banksy did do a release at say ยฃ1250 and it didnt sell out. It wouldnt look good for him? Also, this is bunk, an artists career doesn't depend on how many print jockeys are F5ing for a simple screenprint.
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Banksy GREY No Ball Games Available, by schlomo on Dec 16, 2009 18:01:23 GMT 1, Problem is some people hate the fact that they didnt get a print, end of. When they see someone else selling it gets their back up, cos they didnt have the initial chance.
Thats life tho! if you got everything you wanted life would be f*cking dull. Move on, i'm 100% sure Banksy will release another print at some point in the future, and lets be fair, although this one is nice, its not his best.
Problem is some people hate the fact that they didnt get a print, end of. When they see someone else selling it gets their back up, cos they didnt have the initial chance.
Thats life tho! if you got everything you wanted life would be f*cking dull. Move on, i'm 100% sure Banksy will release another print at some point in the future, and lets be fair, although this one is nice, its not his best.
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