LOL, this excuse is trotted out every time. I mean how bad a condition is a print that's 1 year old? I have a hard time believing this thing was "terrible."

I guess hammer is 1800 if you say so but I don't know why they call it "sale price" then. Would be about the only auction house that lists sold price without the premium added.

In demand, sure. But rare — rare would be an edition of like 30 or something that comes up on ebay rarely, not numerous times a year.

Whilst i generally agree with your contempt - you perhaps have not seen a print which has been trashed by an owner.
I have seen several - from cutting them to fit in a frame to creasing them up to fit in a suitcase. A few months ago I saw a Stop and Search which had been part chewed by a dog which the owner wanted 1500uk for - I jest you not ! some people do not take care their possessions at all.

blue tac has a lot to answer for - it not only marks prints it also on occasion can stain a print beyond restoration.

as for that nola - I've heard funny stories, from several people ,about how bad it was - so in context it probably was in bad nick so much so the auction has a right to be forgotten.

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It's hard to forget a price like that and im sure many in the market today will feel a little cheated parting with £2,500. Snausages wise words of: "if you're not desperate, keep clam, plenty of fish in the sea." are spot on.

Lots of talk around prices but ideally I'm after a trade for a pre LA signed print and only cause I have most of the post LA prints. Obviously some people want to downplay the price to get a good deal, some people want to up the price to get a good price. It's all a game to most who have commented in this thread.

The piece is still available, is framed to the highest standards by a Bristol framers and is immaculate. to reiterate I'm after a trade if possible. No rush so anyone considering this take your time and establish if you could get one of these in great nick already framed etc etc.

That's funny coming from you. I'm a long standing member witha solid reputation and a decent collection not some joker.

Hi
don't take it wrong, I think you should do like this, easy for every one!

Nola for sale or swap
£XXXX ONO or swap for banksy ..... banksy.... or banksy ... or this one + £

They are not getting a lot more Nola's because there are none to be had and its been like this for sometime now! There are one of two things going to happen - They either go up in price, tempting people to sell, or they come down in price making owners hang onto them. The problem is 289 is not a big issue and in my opinion is the best Banksy for a long time so owners are going to hang onto them. I would love a signed GWB but there aint any and if there was I doubt if I could afford it!

Personally I'd go for the cash and buy something you've been after for a while

Actually alot of auction houses note the sales price without adding on the premium, Bloomsbury are just one, Gerrads from memory do the same. Larger auction houses like Dreweatts, Bonhams and Christies tend to do prices with premiums as the sales result. From memory Bonhams & Christies have only recently started doing so, certainly Christies have.

I just grabbed this from the Bloomsbury auction result page for the sale Nola was in.




Hard to tell from the pic which i've grabbed off their site as well, but looks like its been photoshopped for the web, certainly there are colour patches visible that shouldnt be there.... just my opinion of course and could be wrong, but look bottom right near the sig.




good luck with the trade matey

Yeh I'd take a reaper as I haven't got one but to be honest I'm open. This is a genuine trade if someone can trade a decent pre LA print the Nola is theirs. as i said before I have most post LA so that's way I'm discounting them tradewise. If it's an exceptional piece I'll add to the deal.

Plenty of economic insight from the likes of bubbleandsqeak but not a lot of useful input. In a a trade I'm valuing the Nola at around £3k there you go, cards on the table etc etc. I'll add if necessary otherwise it stays for the future when they are even harder to find.

COCTEAU: I like how your upfront and value it at what you think its worth but weather it moves is a different story.

So what your saying is £1800 was including the premium?

I'd say when it comes to paying cash in todays economic climate why bother adding auction house fee's? surely that's just topping the price up for the sake of it? It's usually the last one sold on ebay for this amount minus ebay fees, minus pay pal fees.

I'd say there one or two Nola's needing to come out of hiding but are staying put untill the last possible second hoping everyone is in the £2,500 cash mind set when they drop - Thing is it's only going to take one person who's bought one originally at cost needing to sell for say for example £2,000 to start the ball rolling. A very good example of this was when someone sold an Adam Neate self portrait on here for just above cost and other forum members who paid top money for it six weeks previous felt robbed.