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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by mammal2 on Dec 17, 2007 0:38:02 GMT 1, a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price.
Thats cause you own one ay. oi oi 
a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price. Thats cause you own one ay. oi oi |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by alsbabar on Dec 17, 2007 0:40:58 GMT 1, a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price. Thats cause you own one ay. oi oi
nope i dont - wasnt one of the lucky ones who could get both - it was a choice between trolleys or flags - and I chose the trolleys
a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price. Thats cause you own one ay. oi oi nope i dont - wasnt one of the lucky ones who could get both - it was a choice between trolleys or flags - and I chose the trolleys |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by mammal2 on Dec 17, 2007 0:42:21 GMT 1, i have nothing againsed flippers snakes. Im not one, but i dont have the time to go to the middle east, 3 days away from my business in december would cost me about ยฃ20,000 so its worth me paying a flipper, and i would happily pay ยฃ5000 I'm not sure too many people will part with this, except for a few who made the journey with the sole purpose of flipping. It is a fantastic image, quite a limited run, and due to the hassle of getting one I think genuine Banksy fans will hang onto them. May not be too easy to get a replacement. Have you thought of asking someone to go out there for you?
Agree 100%. To be fair Verbal I love the fact that you can spunk this sort of money. I say bloody fair play. You love your art and can afford to spunk the extra dollar. Plus you give a hell of alot away so good on you! I would probably kill for one. Ha, no really i was on the verge of flying out but Ms mammal threatened to take my balls, so Im resigned to spending my life here until the Ghetto one comes up and then maybe I can start talking to her and my friends again. Im thinking a crack habit would have smaller social costs in the long run!
i have nothing againsed flippers snakes. Im not one, but i dont have the time to go to the middle east, 3 days away from my business in december would cost me about ยฃ20,000 so its worth me paying a flipper, and i would happily pay ยฃ5000 I'm not sure too many people will part with this, except for a few who made the journey with the sole purpose of flipping. It is a fantastic image, quite a limited run, and due to the hassle of getting one I think genuine Banksy fans will hang onto them. May not be too easy to get a replacement. Have you thought of asking someone to go out there for you? Agree 100%. To be fair Verbal I love the fact that you can spunk this sort of money. I say bloody fair play. You love your art and can afford to spunk the extra dollar. Plus you give a hell of alot away so good on you! I would probably kill for one. Ha, no really i was on the verge of flying out but Ms mammal threatened to take my balls, so Im resigned to spending my life here until the Ghetto one comes up and then maybe I can start talking to her and my friends again. Im thinking a crack habit would have smaller social costs in the long run! |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by darjeeling on Dec 17, 2007 0:43:31 GMT 1, a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price.
Does it really cost $4,000 to fly over there get a hotel for a night or two a few drinks maybe and and fly home? Even if so don't you get more out of the trip than just getting the print?
The way I see it is this is an edition of 1112 prints now with 112 of them signed. The cost of the trip is your deal and I would assume that the price of the print will eventually be tempered by how much people like the image. The fact that you flew to Israel to get the print doesn't make me like the image any more. And I don't see why it should cost more than a signed jackjill or the like which is about ยฃ4k right now. Even less recently.
a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price. Does it really cost $4,000 to fly over there get a hotel for a night or two a few drinks maybe and and fly home? Even if so don't you get more out of the trip than just getting the print? The way I see it is this is an edition of 1112 prints now with 112 of them signed. The cost of the trip is your deal and I would assume that the price of the print will eventually be tempered by how much people like the image. The fact that you flew to Israel to get the print doesn't make me like the image any more. And I don't see why it should cost more than a signed jackjill or the like which is about ยฃ4k right now. Even less recently. |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by mammal2 on Dec 17, 2007 0:46:22 GMT 1, Thats cause you own one ay. oi oi nope i dont - wasnt one of the lucky ones who could get both - it was a choice between trolleys or flags - and I chose the trolleys
Dont blame you! Run of 28. Next year East Timor run of 10. Bam!
Thats cause you own one ay. oi oi nope i dont - wasnt one of the lucky ones who could get both - it was a choice between trolleys or flags - and I chose the trolleys Dont blame you! Run of 28. Next year East Timor run of 10. Bam! |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by snakes on Dec 17, 2007 0:48:41 GMT 1, ..also bear in mind that due to nature of the print (on chromalux paper), it is unlikely to stand the tests of time quite as favourably as the conventional prints will.
So is it worth more than a signed J&J?
..also bear in mind that due to nature of the print (on chromalux paper), it is unlikely to stand the tests of time quite as favourably as the conventional prints will.
So is it worth more than a signed J&J?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by mammal2 on Dec 17, 2007 0:50:38 GMT 1, Is this Flag not screenprinted?
Is this Flag not screenprinted?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by darjeeling on Dec 17, 2007 0:52:54 GMT 1, ..also bear in mind that due to nature of the print (on chromalux paper), it is unlikely to stand the tests of time quite as favourably as the conventional prints will. So is it worth more than a signed J&J?
It's maybe worth more than another print if you like it more.
But flag got 6 votes in the most liked banksy print poll. Not a strong showing. And if people try and fleece people for 5-6k for this print, well there are about 1000 unsigned prints to choose from for a mere ยฃ5-600, unless you're made of money like verbal, I don't think the market will bear that disparity.
shh, -1, must be quiet now, I'm upsetting the new gold flag owners
..also bear in mind that due to nature of the print (on chromalux paper), it is unlikely to stand the tests of time quite as favourably as the conventional prints will. So is it worth more than a signed J&J? It's maybe worth more than another print if you like it more. But flag got 6 votes in the most liked banksy print poll. Not a strong showing. And if people try and fleece people for 5-6k for this print, well there are about 1000 unsigned prints to choose from for a mere ยฃ5-600, unless you're made of money like verbal, I don't think the market will bear that disparity. shh, -1, must be quiet now, I'm upsetting the new gold flag owners |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by stuey09 on Dec 17, 2007 0:53:10 GMT 1, a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price. Does it really cost $4,000 to fly over there get a hotel for a night or two a few drinks maybe and and fly home? Even if so don't you get more out of the trip than just getting the print? The way I see it is this is an edition of 1112 prints now with 112 of them signed. The cost of the trip is your deal and I would assume that the price of the print will eventually be tempered by how much people like the image. The fact that you flew to Israel to get the print doesn't make me like the image any more. And I don't see why it should cost more than a signed jackjill or the like which is about ยฃ4k right now. Even less recently.
Print is sold in Bethlehem which is under Palestinian Authority. However, before the price for this print gets debated any further, may I point out that they can still be purchased at cost for 500 quid + some effort.
a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price. Does it really cost $4,000 to fly over there get a hotel for a night or two a few drinks maybe and and fly home? Even if so don't you get more out of the trip than just getting the print? The way I see it is this is an edition of 1112 prints now with 112 of them signed. The cost of the trip is your deal and I would assume that the price of the print will eventually be tempered by how much people like the image. The fact that you flew to Israel to get the print doesn't make me like the image any more. And I don't see why it should cost more than a signed jackjill or the like which is about ยฃ4k right now. Even less recently. Print is sold in Bethlehem which is under Palestinian Authority. However, before the price for this print gets debated any further, may I point out that they can still be purchased at cost for 500 quid + some effort. |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by alsbabar on Dec 17, 2007 0:53:42 GMT 1, a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price. Does it really cost $4,000 to fly over there get a hotel for a night or two a few drinks maybe and and fly home? Even if so don't you get more out of the trip than just getting the print? The way I see it is this is an edition of 1112 prints now with 112 of them signed. The cost of the trip is your deal and I would assume that the price of the print will eventually be tempered by how much people like the image. The fact that you flew to Israel to get the print doesn't make me like the image any more. And I don't see why it should cost more than a signed jackjill or the like which is about ยฃ4k right now. Even less recently.
Jack and Jill had a print run of 700 - thats why. You see Banksy prints with far less print run going more than ยฃ5K, so I dont see why this would be different. Afterall, a Banksy is a Banksy, and for an serious art collector/Banksy lover, they will pay whatever it takes to acquire one.
Its only my opinion - and not that of the market - I can also imagine the Gold Flag will probably appear in auctions rather than on Ebay.
a print run of 112, which can only be bought in Bethlehem, so even before you consider selling it, you have to recoup ยฃ2K costs, to include flights, accommodation, cost of print, etc IMO if you can get it for ยฃ5k, that would be a good price. Does it really cost $4,000 to fly over there get a hotel for a night or two a few drinks maybe and and fly home? Even if so don't you get more out of the trip than just getting the print? The way I see it is this is an edition of 1112 prints now with 112 of them signed. The cost of the trip is your deal and I would assume that the price of the print will eventually be tempered by how much people like the image. The fact that you flew to Israel to get the print doesn't make me like the image any more. And I don't see why it should cost more than a signed jackjill or the like which is about ยฃ4k right now. Even less recently. Jack and Jill had a print run of 700 - thats why. You see Banksy prints with far less print run going more than ยฃ5K, so I dont see why this would be different. Afterall, a Banksy is a Banksy, and for an serious art collector/Banksy lover, they will pay whatever it takes to acquire one. Its only my opinion - and not that of the market - I can also imagine the Gold Flag will probably appear in auctions rather than on Ebay. |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by darjeeling on Dec 17, 2007 0:56:17 GMT 1, Does it really cost $4,000 to fly over there get a hotel for a night or two a few drinks maybe and and fly home? Even if so don't you get more out of the trip than just getting the print? The way I see it is this is an edition of 1112 prints now with 112 of them signed. The cost of the trip is your deal and I would assume that the price of the print will eventually be tempered by how much people like the image. The fact that you flew to Israel to get the print doesn't make me like the image any more. And I don't see why it should cost more than a signed jackjill or the like which is about ยฃ4k right now. Even less recently. Print is sold in Bethlehem which is under Palestinian Authority. However, before the price for this print gets debated any further, may I point out that they can still be purchased at cost for 500 quid + some effort.
So you flew into Palestine? Or Israel? Seems like most flew into Israel first but who cares 
Yeah but flags has a print run of 1112 J&J only 700
Does it really cost $4,000 to fly over there get a hotel for a night or two a few drinks maybe and and fly home? Even if so don't you get more out of the trip than just getting the print? The way I see it is this is an edition of 1112 prints now with 112 of them signed. The cost of the trip is your deal and I would assume that the price of the print will eventually be tempered by how much people like the image. The fact that you flew to Israel to get the print doesn't make me like the image any more. And I don't see why it should cost more than a signed jackjill or the like which is about ยฃ4k right now. Even less recently. Print is sold in Bethlehem which is under Palestinian Authority. However, before the price for this print gets debated any further, may I point out that they can still be purchased at cost for 500 quid + some effort. So you flew into Palestine? Or Israel? Seems like most flew into Israel first but who cares Yeah but flags has a print run of 1112 J&J only 700 |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by snakes on Dec 17, 2007 0:57:49 GMT 1, Hmmmm,
i have enough BA airmiles for at least 2 return tickets to Israel.
Will i go to get a gold Flag?
.................like f u c k.
I'll be off to sunny Durban with my miles........ viva South Africa...... La la, la la la la la la, viva South Africa....
(although i bet Bethlehem is safer than ZA!)
Hmmmm,
i have enough BA airmiles for at least 2 return tickets to Israel.
Will i go to get a gold Flag?
.................like f u c k.
I'll be off to sunny Durban with my miles........ viva South Africa...... La la, la la la la la la, viva South Africa....
(although i bet Bethlehem is safer than ZA!)
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by alsbabar on Dec 17, 2007 1:03:51 GMT 1, Israel? Seems like most flew into Israel first but who cares
Yeah but flags has a print run of 1112 J&J only 700
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Israel? Seems like most flew into Israel first but who cares Yeah but flags has a print run of 1112 J&J only 700 [/quote] Gold Flag has a print run of 112 not 1112, are you following the programme correctly| |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by darjeeling on Dec 17, 2007 1:07:34 GMT 1, Oh god, you're not falling for that are you? It's the same exact print printed at the same exact time as the unsigned version but on different paper. Big whoop.
Oh god, you're not falling for that are you? It's the same exact print printed at the same exact time as the unsigned version but on different paper. Big whoop.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by stuey09 on Dec 17, 2007 1:07:37 GMT 1, I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole fucking point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices.
I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole fucking point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by snakes on Dec 17, 2007 1:09:41 GMT 1, Israel? Seems like most flew into Israel first but who cares Yeah but flags has a print run of 1112 J&J only 700
Gold Flag has a print run of 112 not 1112, are you following the programme correctly| [/quote]
gold or silver we do not discriminate.
The only thing that really sets it apart is the signature; and whether you like it or not people are only interested in the signature as Banksy's signature means stacks more money!
A shame really, but a true fact. If i were Banksy I'd stop doing to signatures altogether and not risk getting a RSI!
Israel? Seems like most flew into Israel first but who cares Yeah but flags has a print run of 1112 J&J only 700 Gold Flag has a print run of 112 not 1112, are you following the programme correctly| [/quote] gold or silver we do not discriminate. The only thing that really sets it apart is the signature; and whether you like it or not people are only interested in the signature as Banksy's signature means stacks more money! A shame really, but a true fact. If i were Banksy I'd stop doing to signatures altogether and not risk getting a RSI! |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by stuey09 on Dec 17, 2007 1:10:35 GMT 1, Hmmmm, i have enough BA airmiles for at least 2 return tickets to Israel. Will i go to get a gold Flag? .................like f u c k. I'll be off to sunny Durban with my miles........ viva South Africa...... La la, la la la la la la, viva South Africa.... (although i bet Bethlehem is safer than ZA!)
Durban, you lucky sod Snakes. Have a good break.
Hmmmm, i have enough BA airmiles for at least 2 return tickets to Israel. Will i go to get a gold Flag? .................like f u c k. I'll be off to sunny Durban with my miles........ viva South Africa...... La la, la la la la la la, viva South Africa.... (although i bet Bethlehem is safer than ZA!) Durban, you lucky sod Snakes. Have a good break. |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by alsbabar on Dec 17, 2007 1:12:48 GMT 1, club 303 snakes?
club 303 snakes?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by darjeeling on Dec 17, 2007 1:13:17 GMT 1, I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole f**king point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices.
No your point is to nitpick little things to try and make me look like a fool. But the fact of the matter is I can't take time off of work or afford to go to SG despite the (i very much agree) great concept. But my point is ...and one that is definitely going to come up whether you like it or not... is that sellers are going to try and fleece buyers to pay for there little vacation trip and then some.
I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole f**king point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices. No your point is to nitpick little things to try and make me look like a fool. But the fact of the matter is I can't take time off of work or afford to go to SG despite the (i very much agree) great concept. But my point is ...and one that is definitely going to come up whether you like it or not... is that sellers are going to try and fleece buyers to pay for there little vacation trip and then some. |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by verbalkint on Dec 17, 2007 1:15:38 GMT 1, OK then, how about this
If there are some gold flags left i will pay for your flight and 2 night accomadation if you can guarantee you can get me a gold flags, i will even buy you one too
But if they have sold out then i want my money back. Is that fair?
OK then, how about this
If there are some gold flags left i will pay for your flight and 2 night accomadation if you can guarantee you can get me a gold flags, i will even buy you one too
But if they have sold out then i want my money back. Is that fair?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by darjeeling on Dec 17, 2007 1:16:48 GMT 1, please keep negging folks - very mature
please keep negging folks - very mature
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by snakes on Dec 17, 2007 1:18:08 GMT 1, I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole f**king point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices.
Just out of interest,
out of how many of the people who have been to the ghetto how many stayed in Palestine?
I may be wrong but my guess is that most people flew out on an Israeli / or Israeli sponsored airline, stayed in Israeli hotels and spent most of their spenders in Israel.
So other than buying their one Banksy print of which the proceeds go to Palestinian causes, it seems to me that it is Israel that is benefiting the most from the Ghetto tourists!
Ps. I am just an innocent by stander who watches and listens, i support neither side (just incase mossad are monitoring this thread).
I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole f**king point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices. Just out of interest, out of how many of the people who have been to the ghetto how many stayed in Palestine? I may be wrong but my guess is that most people flew out on an Israeli / or Israeli sponsored airline, stayed in Israeli hotels and spent most of their spenders in Israel. So other than buying their one Banksy print of which the proceeds go to Palestinian causes, it seems to me that it is Israel that is benefiting the most from the Ghetto tourists! Ps. I am just an innocent by stander who watches and listens, i support neither side (just incase mossad are monitoring this thread). |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by darjeeling on Dec 17, 2007 1:19:26 GMT 1, all of the money from sales are going to palestine aid right?
all of the money from sales are going to palestine aid right?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by snakes on Dec 17, 2007 1:20:25 GMT 1, Durban, you lucky sod Snakes. Have a good break.
Not until the end of Feb or so Stuey, so like most of us i will still have to bear the worst of our British winter!
Durban, you lucky sod Snakes. Have a good break. Not until the end of Feb or so Stuey, so like most of us i will still have to bear the worst of our British winter! |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by stuey09 on Dec 17, 2007 1:20:35 GMT 1, I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole f**king point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices. No your point is to nitpick little things to try and make me look like a fool. But the fact of the matter is I can't take time off of work or afford to go to SG despite the (i very much agree) great concept. But my point is ...and one that is definitely going to come up whether you like it or not... is that sellers are going to try and fleece buyers to pay for there little vacation trip and then some.
You've got me very wrong. How have I attempted to make you look like a fool?
I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole f**king point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices. No your point is to nitpick little things to try and make me look like a fool. But the fact of the matter is I can't take time off of work or afford to go to SG despite the (i very much agree) great concept. But my point is ...and one that is definitely going to come up whether you like it or not... is that sellers are going to try and fleece buyers to pay for there little vacation trip and then some. You've got me very wrong. How have I attempted to make you look like a fool? |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by morrissey1 on Dec 17, 2007 1:21:19 GMT 1, im surprised that anyone would be critical of verbalkint (correction) for asking for this print.....I don't think that making a request for something you can't physically get on your own is going to increase "flipping".....not everyone can get to Bethlehem, and for those who can't/don't, are they just supposed to never get the print they want because they couldn't make it there? No, of course not. Some flipping is absurd, blatant and ugly, but occassionally it does serve a purpose, and it does help some of us out who cant get certain things.....IMO
im surprised that anyone would be critical of verbalkint (correction) for asking for this print.....I don't think that making a request for something you can't physically get on your own is going to increase "flipping".....not everyone can get to Bethlehem, and for those who can't/don't, are they just supposed to never get the print they want because they couldn't make it there? No, of course not. Some flipping is absurd, blatant and ugly, but occassionally it does serve a purpose, and it does help some of us out who cant get certain things.....IMO
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by verbalkint on Dec 17, 2007 1:22:38 GMT 1, err yeah back to the point
anyone want to go to SG for me?
err yeah back to the point
anyone want to go to SG for me?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by verbalkint on Dec 17, 2007 1:23:17 GMT 1, thanks morrissey, the err yeah bit wasnt aimed at you
I totally agree, if a print comes up that we love and we miss out is that it, do we give up? I have sourced a colour trollys from a forum member, but if i said who he was or what i was paying he would get negged to buggery, but you know what, i offered an amount, he accepted and i am very pleased that he did as i now will have a print i have wanted for over a year and i dont have to take a leap of faith and pay before seeing it and let royal mail fuck it up too
He gets to have a better christmas, everyones a winner, chicken dinner
thanks morrissey, the err yeah bit wasnt aimed at you
I totally agree, if a print comes up that we love and we miss out is that it, do we give up? I have sourced a colour trollys from a forum member, but if i said who he was or what i was paying he would get negged to buggery, but you know what, i offered an amount, he accepted and i am very pleased that he did as i now will have a print i have wanted for over a year and i dont have to take a leap of faith and pay before seeing it and let royal mail fuck it up too
He gets to have a better christmas, everyones a winner, chicken dinner
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by snakes on Dec 17, 2007 1:25:07 GMT 1, im surprised that anyone would be critical of snakes for asking for this print.....I don't think that making a request for something you can't physically get on your own is going to increase "flipping".....not everyone can get to Bethlehem, and for those who can't/don't, are they just supposed to never get the print they want because they couldn't make it there? No, of course not. Some flipping is absurd, blatant and ugly, but occassionally it does serve a purpose, and it does help some of us out who cant get certain things.....IMO
Its verbal Mo that wants this print, not me.  .
If they really weant this print that much i would suggest buying last years one and framing it under 'gold irridium' coated glass. (although dont quote me for costs).
im surprised that anyone would be critical of snakes for asking for this print.....I don't think that making a request for something you can't physically get on your own is going to increase "flipping".....not everyone can get to Bethlehem, and for those who can't/don't, are they just supposed to never get the print they want because they couldn't make it there? No, of course not. Some flipping is absurd, blatant and ugly, but occassionally it does serve a purpose, and it does help some of us out who cant get certain things.....IMO Its verbal Mo that wants this print, not me. . If they really weant this print that much i would suggest buying last years one and framing it under 'gold irridium' coated glass. (although dont quote me for costs). |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by stuey09 on Dec 17, 2007 1:26:50 GMT 1, I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole f**king point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices. Just out of interest, out of how many of the people who have been to the ghetto how many stayed in Palestine? I may be wrong but my guess is that most people flew out on an Israeli / or Israeli sponsored airline, stayed in Israeli hotels and spent most of their spenders in Israel. So other than buying their one Banksy print of which the proceeds go to Palestinian causes, it seems to me that it is Israel that is benefiting the most from the Ghetto tourists! Ps. I am just an innocent by stander who watches and listens, i support neither side (just incase mossad are monitoring this thread).
Excellent point Snakes. I thought about that. El Al airlines are Israeli, so they will have picked up a few quid from this as will the other aspects of the tourist industry. At least some money will go to the Palestinian kids though. However, from what I was told, Banksy and those involved were not just seeking to raise money, but also awareness of the situation over there.
I think you fully understood my point, which related to the fact that the print was purchased in Palestine, rather than Israel and for the several thousand Palestinians, that deliniation matters a great deal, so maybe they care. This was the whole f**king point of having SG in Bethlehem, to bring some attention to what is going on over there and not cheapen the concept by picking over secondary market prices. Just out of interest, out of how many of the people who have been to the ghetto how many stayed in Palestine? I may be wrong but my guess is that most people flew out on an Israeli / or Israeli sponsored airline, stayed in Israeli hotels and spent most of their spenders in Israel. So other than buying their one Banksy print of which the proceeds go to Palestinian causes, it seems to me that it is Israel that is benefiting the most from the Ghetto tourists! Ps. I am just an innocent by stander who watches and listens, i support neither side (just incase mossad are monitoring this thread). Excellent point Snakes. I thought about that. El Al airlines are Israeli, so they will have picked up a few quid from this as will the other aspects of the tourist industry. At least some money will go to the Palestinian kids though. However, from what I was told, Banksy and those involved were not just seeking to raise money, but also awareness of the situation over there. |
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