Urban Art Association

not to begrudge anyone for selling a piece, but i find i am instantly turned off when people who are selling their art, they think they can ask auction prices - its like people who sell their banksy prints, citing andipa prices, its not relative.

If you want auction money - then whack in to an auction - you might get close to the 10K it reached at Bonham, i doubt it, but you never know.

Show sold out instantly so it would be above gallery as theres high demand... As for what this is worth I'll let you guys/gals debate

Very beautiful canvas by the way!

thats ok HC, its a debate, and everything discussed is with respect. i wouldn't put Ian Francis in the same brackets as Banksy. Walker, and Dface are also on a different level, however after about a month or two, you tend to see their prices level or come off a little. Dont get me wrong I like Ian's stuff, but he is not a 10K per canvas artist yet. Miranda Donovan sold out pre-show, as did Conor H., with the exception of a few pieces, most are still around the gallery prices they sold for, and what about Herakut, pieces are very difficult to come by, but their pricing is realistic.

I would put Ian Francis in the same brackets as Charming Baker and Sage Vaughn.

As for Parla - after the last show, very overpriced imo

Let me add if you had £10K spare, would you spend it on a Ian Francis?

and yes if I had 10K to spare, Ian francis would be my first choice from this "scene"...

I'd go for Ian's work well before considering anything by Walker or Dface most of the time, because I think he's twice the artist either of them are (of course all real life decisions are based on the actual piece, not only the artist, so there are exceptions I suppose, although I haven't seen many Dface images I really like at all thus far). However, my personal choice would likely not include any of the afformentioned. There are simply some artists I happen to prefer at the moment, but tastes evolve and change and I can see myself seeing Ian's work and being wowed enough to buy it, were I liquid enough to do so. (Tough to say for sure when you aren't in that position)

Damn right.

I find it staggering that people will spend hundreds on crap like the Green Lady where as IF prints struggle to sell.

To be fair, that Laz piece is craptastic...and obviously not the piece he was referring to.

Also to be fair, the two KDF pieces that sold at $28k USD were also 49" x 71"...so three times as large as the piece offered here. Those two examples were also truly STUNNING. (This one is very nice, too...just saying...)

The "Avalanche" piece at Outsiders also sold @ $16000 usd = approx 10k gpb
Basically, your comment about Ian Francis not being a 10K gbp artist yet is flat out wrong

give arty's piece to a gallery to sell on consignment, he wont see 10K for it, a gallery will probably sell it for 8-10K, arty would see close to £4-5K for it - and i guess that is more my point - 10K on here is too steep. And without being pedantic - you are basing $16K on todays exchange rate, when it sold exchange rate was closer to $2 per £1

ummm the $16K midsized piece sold about 3 weeks ago - see outsiders nyc

In any case, I like Ian Francis a lot lol
Cheers

what currency are we discussing?

Yes, the Outsiders piece sold at $16k USD...and it was twice as large (40" x 60") as the piece for sale here.

I would pay $10k - $12k USD for just about any of the KDF 28" x 40" IFs...but $12k is a far cry from $16k.

And yes, that LAZ piece on the website is HORRIBLE.

good luck arty - nice piece hope you get the price you want for it